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Title: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: pornluver on May 21, 2013, 04:12:10 AM
Anyone knows?


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: logicbomb666 on May 21, 2013, 04:13:59 AM
i think like 15 to 20 tops.

to actual customers, less than that.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: nwoolls on May 21, 2013, 04:27:41 AM
Anyone knows?

There's a thread that keeps track here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189419.0). There's also this (http://bfl.ptz.ro/) unofficial list. When compared to the number of outstanding orders the unfortunate answer is close enough to none to call it none.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: PuertoLibre on May 21, 2013, 05:31:12 AM
STEP 1.

Determine when you think you SHOULD get your ASIC Miner.

Use and edit the following link with the format shown below:

http://daycalc.appspot.com/05/29/2013 <--- Link that will easily tell you how many days until that date.

http://daycalc.appspot.com/MM/DD/YYYY <--- The Date format accepted.

STEP 2.

Determine where you are in the queue and how many units must be delivered before yours will be. Remember, each customer may have more than one unit on order. For example, a Customer with an order number of xx1900 may have 2 jallys on order. You must "guesstimate" how many devices and how many customers there are ahead of you. A safe number will probably be to use the order number itself as a rough guesstimate of how many units are before you.

If your order starts with xx50389 then you can assume anywhere from 25 thousand to 50 thousand units must be shipped before yours may be. (remember it is all a guesstimate)

STEP 3.

Take the number of days you expect to wait from the first link and divide by the number of units you think are ahead of you in the queue.

The result is that you will have a rough understanding of how many units BFL must ship within the days you plugged in.

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EXAMPLE:

I think BFL will ship en masse at or around June 15, 2013.

So I will modify the link in step 1 to:

http://daycalc.appspot.com/06/15/2013

After visiting that address it tells me there are....25 days until then.

Step 2, estimate how many units you believe may be ahead of you (play with low and high numbers to get a realistic idea):

Lets assume there are 25,000 BFL units ahead of mine with a fictitious order number of xx27999.

Step 3, plug the number in:

25,000 BFL units / divided by / 25 days = 1,000 units per day for 25 days until BFL gets to mine.

(obviously account for weekends and holidays to get a more refined idea)

Hope this helps. Keep in mind BFL has said their expected mass capacity is around 400 unit per day. Of course until their bulk wafers show up, that is unlikely to ever happen. (IMO)


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: knybe on May 21, 2013, 01:12:44 PM
Worst waste of money I've ever initiated.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: GHE2OGOTH1K on May 21, 2013, 01:15:56 PM
AROUND 30 HAVE SHIPPED ONLY TO MEDIA, SPEC MADE DEVICES... BFL ARE PR/SCAMMIN GENIUSES


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: Bitcoinorama on May 21, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
Note: Avalon never sold out to media and did this...

Results speak for themselves! Media were just as interested in Yifu and Avalon regardless of freebies, because he created and delivered working miners to his customers!!!


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: grue on May 21, 2013, 07:36:24 PM
Note: Avalon never sold out to media and did this...

Results speak for themselves! Media were just as interested in Yifu and Avalon regardless of freebies, because he created and delivered working miners to his customers!!!
BFL didn't "sell out". they just gave tons of "samples" to make themselves look legit.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: Bitcoinorama on May 21, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
Apologies, by sell out I mean prioritise the media above their long standing customers.

These were members of the media that weren't expecting units, but delighted to receive them as surprise gifts.

Irrespective, Avalon who chose only to supply their customers, still manage to receive positive press regardless.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: lerelerele on May 21, 2013, 07:47:39 PM
order 1836 was sent yesterday as you can see here https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/164-monday-5-20-shipping-update.html http://bfl.ptz.ro/


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: billotronic on May 21, 2013, 08:17:31 PM
order 1836 was sent yesterday as you can see here https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/164-monday-5-20-shipping-update.html http://bfl.ptz.ro/

lol yeah... units. that probably means two jala's went out.

still, few more months and I might get mine.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: erk on May 21, 2013, 09:30:54 PM
order 1836 was sent yesterday as you can see here https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/164-monday-5-20-shipping-update.html http://bfl.ptz.ro/

lol yeah... units. that probably means two jala's went out.

still, few more months and I might get mine.
More than 30 If what they said was true, remember http://bfl.ptz.ro by no means has all the orders on it.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: billotronic on May 22, 2013, 03:24:11 PM
order 1836 was sent yesterday as you can see here https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/164-monday-5-20-shipping-update.html http://bfl.ptz.ro/

lol yeah... units. that probably means two jala's went out.

still, few more months and I might get mine.
More than 30 If what they said was true, remember http://bfl.ptz.ro by no means has all the orders on it.

Well thats always going to be the deal breaker.



Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: ninjaboon on May 22, 2013, 03:43:55 PM
order 1836 was sent yesterday as you can seeere https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/164-monday-5-20-shipping-update.html http://bfl.ptz.ro/

and my order is around 8xxx, it's gonna take some time to reach my shores....


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: vapourminer on May 22, 2013, 11:32:06 PM
got an email saying my order (#1851, a jally) was shipped 5/20. the tracking # says it left the sort facility in KC 5/21. usps priority mail (the standard shipping, not the upgraded shipping they offered).

I ordered 6/24.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: erk on May 22, 2013, 11:51:05 PM
got an email saying my order (#1851, a jally) was shipped 5/20. the tracking # says it left the sort facility in KC 5/21. usps priority mail (the standard shipping, not the upgraded shipping they offered).

I ordered 6/24.
Grats, let us know when it actually arrives, and update http://bfl.ptz.ro/ if it's not too much of a hassle.



Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: vapourminer on May 23, 2013, 12:02:34 AM
Grats, let us know when it actually arrives, and update http://bfl.ptz.ro/ if it's not too much of a hassle.

I will.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: dan99 on May 23, 2013, 01:15:23 AM
Josh is taking things nice and easy you never know if they will shipped in a couple of months or to be continued next year..  ;D


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 23, 2013, 01:28:20 AM
A better question: Who has been informed to send in their trade-ins? Remember, there are no trade-ins por los Jalapeņos.

Knock Knock!
Who's there?
FCC.
FCC who?
FCC come to see why you're selling devices that's not approved.

Houston, we have a problem!
Houston's the name of my late Daddy-O. Just ask my Costa Rican mom who got me an account on one of them matching making services where I met a beautiful woman and now have a kid, results of the sperm lottery, whom, I hope, doesn't grow up to be like his scum grandfather or Daddy-O.

Quote
Jalapeņos Central
Alajuela, Poas & the Airport Area                    Costa Rica
+506 2430 4027


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: YipYip on May 23, 2013, 01:52:01 AM
A better question: Who has been informed to send in their trade-ins? Remember, there are no trade-ins por los Jalapeņos.

Knock Knock!
Who's there?
FCC.
FCC who?
FCC come to see why you're selling devices that's not approved.

Houston, we have a problem!
Houston's the name of my late Daddy-O. Just ask my Costa Rican mom who got me an account on one of them matching making services where I met a beautiful woman and now have a kid, results of the sperm lottery, whom, I hope, doesn't grow up to be like his scum grandfather or Daddy-O.

Quote
Jalapeņos Central
Alajuela, Poas & the Airport Area                    Costa Rica
+506 2430 4027

I friken knew it .... an asshat like josh had to buy his wife from the internet ...lol


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: Logik on May 23, 2013, 01:57:20 AM
Lol, Jalapeņos. When will people get their Singles? Next year?

BTW I can't believe they have the nads to post news like this

Quote
LS/S/MR should start shipping sometime during the week of  the 26th of May, 2013. Not guaranteed, but confidence level is above  average to optimistic.

I mean, really. Come on. How could post updates like this now with a straight face. Still using evasive language like "sometime" and "during the week of". Then stating a confidence level to make it more legit.

You can't make this shit up.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: PuertoLibre on May 23, 2013, 02:02:12 AM
Lol, Jalapeņos. When will people get their Singles? Next year?

BTW I can't believe they have the nads to post news like this

Quote
LS/S/MR should start shipping sometime during the week of  the 26th of May, 2013. Not guaranteed, but confidence level is above  average to optimistic.

I mean, really. Come on. How could post updates like this now with a straight face. Still using evasive language like "sometime" and "during the week of". Then stating a confidence level to make it more legit.

You can't make this shit up.


Do you want to see irony and that the recent trend at BFL is a game of "confuse the customer with our words"?

Take a look at how they worded this:

Quote
LS/S/MR should start shipping sometime during the week of  the 26th of May, 2013. Not guaranteed, but confidence level is above  average to optimistic.

The first word out of the gate is: Not Guaranteed. (in other words, dismiss everything after this point.)

The next is the definition of "confidence". (remember, not guaranteed)

So what is the Level of Confidence? (Above Average to Optimistic)

Next post, finishes this point


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: PuertoLibre on May 23, 2013, 02:07:23 AM
Levels of Confidence (the scale):

No Confidence > Optimistic > Average > Confident > Above Average > Certain.

They said, Above Average....to.....Optimistic?

Huh, that interesting....They put the Above average first and then Optimistic second. Rather than say:

Quote
LS/S/MR should start shipping sometime during the week of  the 26th of May, 2013. Not guaranteed, but confidence level is optimistic to above  average.

They say:

LS/S/MR should start shipping sometime during the week of  the 26th of May, 2013. Not guaranteed, but confidence level is above average to optimistic.

In this case "Optimistic" means your expectations bloated and are higher than reality allows. Hence, "Optimistic".


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 23, 2013, 02:11:16 AM
Levels of Confidence (the scale):

No Confidence > Optimistic > Average > Confident > Above Average > Certain.

They said, Above Average....to.....Optimistic?

Huh, that interesting....They put the Above average first and then Optimistic second. Rather than say:

Quote
LS/S/MR should start shipping sometime during the week of  the 26th of May, 2013. Not guaranteed, but confidence level is optimistic to above  average.

They say:

LS/S/MR should start shipping sometime during the week of  the 26th of May, 2013. Not guaranteed, but confidence level is above average to optimistic.

In this case "Optimistic" means your expectations bloated and are higher than reality allows. Hence, "Optimistic".

Unless Josh is overruled, there will be no more timelines released. I'll leave it up to somebody else to hunt down the exact quote.


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: cdog on May 23, 2013, 03:20:15 AM
3.50


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: Logik on May 23, 2013, 07:58:34 AM
BFL drinking game:

"Expect to" - 1 drink
"Should be" - 1 drink
"But possibly" - 2 drink
"Subject to change" - shot
<Day of week> or <Day of week> - shot

Any of the previous items in the same sentence as the word "shipping" - finish vessel



Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: vapourminer on May 23, 2013, 11:34:49 PM
Grats, let us know when it actually arrives, and update http://bfl.ptz.ro/ if it's not too much of a hassle.

I will.

my jally arrived today. well packed, in a regular white box. with a butterfly labs coffee mug.

5.3 GH/s average in the last 20 mins with cgminer 3.1.1.

erk, how do I update that page? I can only add orders?


Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: erk on May 24, 2013, 12:01:00 AM
Grats, let us know when it actually arrives, and update http://bfl.ptz.ro/ if it's not too much of a hassle.

I will.

my jally arrived today. well packed, in a regular white box. with a butterfly labs coffee mug.

5.3 GH/s average in the last 20 mins with cgminer 3.1.1.

erk, how do I update that page? I can only add orders?

Dunno, never tried to. Obviously someone has done it because a couple of them are green/delivered  already.



Title: Re: How many BFL ASIC is shipped?
Post by: dtmcnamara on May 24, 2013, 12:46:31 AM
Well I guess my order is coming up soon...ordered 8/14/2012...hopefully it will ship before 8/14/2013