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Title: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: IOTAscam on August 27, 2017, 12:12:15 PM
I thought Bitsler is very trusted and I no need to worry admin will help for all the issues but this time very much disappointed the way he is handling the withdrawal issues.

If he can't predict what the correct fee then he should allow us to choose fee for withdrawals but site limits maximum 60K fee. I paid the highest fee for more than 48 hours still not confirmed. If he allows me to increase then I would have paid higher fee for my withdrawal.

It looks he is still don't know how blockchain works so don't know how to adjust withdrawal fees. Should learn from other established casinos. Next time I will be very careful before loading my money in bitsler.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Oilacris on August 27, 2017, 12:28:25 PM
I thought Bitsler is very trusted and I no need to worry admin will help for all the issues but this time very much disappointed the way he is handling the withdrawal issues.

If he can't predict what the correct fee then he should allow us to choose fee for withdrawals but site limits maximum 60K fee. I paid the highest fee for more than 48 hours still not confirmed. If he allows me to increase then I would have paid higher fee for my withdrawal.

It looks he is still don't know how blockchain works so don't know how to adjust withdrawal fees. Should learn from other established casinos. Next time I will be very careful before loading my money in bitsler.
Dont generalized dude since this issue is mainly cause by the blockchain network and not on the gambling site itself. Expect there are really some delays considering that they set-up 60k max fee. If youd like contact Baryom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=684606 tell him about your concern this is the fastest way but speaking on the pending withdrawal they dont have the power to fasten it up.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: lite on August 27, 2017, 12:55:38 PM
I thought Bitsler is very trusted and I no need to worry admin will help for all the issues but this time very much disappointed the way he is handling the withdrawal issues.

If he can't predict what the correct fee then he should allow us to choose fee for withdrawals but site limits maximum 60K fee. I paid the highest fee for more than 48 hours still not confirmed. If he allows me to increase then I would have paid higher fee for my withdrawal.

It looks he is still don't know how blockchain works so don't know how to adjust withdrawal fees. Should learn from other established casinos. Next time I will be very careful before loading my money in bitsler.
You can speed up your transaction for free, use viabtc transaction accelerator(https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/). maybe they should use dynamic fee system, like crypto-games fee system.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: PuraPuraBego on August 27, 2017, 01:31:59 PM
Could you share to public for your address or ID transaction? that's to make sure you're on problem. I'm sure team of bitsler can't help out for this case, They just can guarantee for your money be land on your pocket, I had this problem at the past. You money's safe but your wasted has wasted.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: RHavar on August 27, 2017, 01:36:39 PM
Get the transaction id, and enter it into estimatefee.com  it'll tell you the estimated amount of blocks (with 50% probability) and if you multiply that by 10 you'll have an estimate in minutes.

But since it's a Sunday now, all the backlog should be clearing out


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: shezu007 on August 27, 2017, 03:15:14 PM
Such a long time i cannot wait for that much everybody need in hurry time as well. So i would love to recommend them to decrease the pending time. Then i would like to go this website.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: actmyname on August 27, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
Such a long time i cannot wait for that much everybody need in hurry time as well. So i would love to recommend them to decrease the pending time. Then i would like to go this website.
Would you be fine with paying a $6 fee to receive your transaction within an hour? If not, then either accept the lower transaction fees on Bitcoin or withdraw a different cryptocurrency on Bitsler's site that lower fees and quicker confirmation times. They have the exchange option, after all (although it will deduct a significant % of winnings, for lower-end players even that can be better than taking a hit with a fee)


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: shezu007 on August 27, 2017, 04:35:21 PM
Seriously if they reduce to 8 hours then i will go for this website else there are many website to go and visit so yes i would be waiting.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Addisonboy on August 27, 2017, 05:02:46 PM
I don't think bitsler is scam. you should pay the high fees for transaction if you want to complete your transaction quickly. Once my transaction was pending for 24 hours they return my actual amount and also pay me the bonus.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: christopher009 on August 27, 2017, 05:04:10 PM
bitsler are most trusted gambling site in gambling world.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: emberbekas on August 27, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
bitsler are most trusted gambling site in gambling world.

True. Just because some people faced a long confirmation time, an issue that beyond bitsler's capability to solve it, doesn't mean bitsler is untrustworthy.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: christopher009 on August 27, 2017, 05:41:34 PM
bitsler are most trusted gambling site in gambling world.

True. Just because some people faced a long confirmation time, an issue that beyond bitsler's capability to solve it, doesn't mean bitsler is untrustworthy.

he also said that his transaction is not confirmed for more than 48 hours. but he don't know that for the last 48 hours there were almost 90 thousand unconfirmed transaction out there. so he shouldn't blame bitsler.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Emoclaw on August 27, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
It isn't Bitsler's fault at all, it's true that they could probably add an option to increase the transaction fee for a faster transaction, but the problem lies with the Bitcoin network in general.
The mempool is full and the fees are very high, most likely due to spam attacks.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: kolloh on August 27, 2017, 11:31:49 PM
Yeah, this issue will affect many different sites due to the network fees being so high lately. The average recommended fee is nearly 400 sat/byte right now for fast confirms. I'd also recommend trying the ViaBTC accelerator that was previously mentioned as it usually helps speed up confirmation time.

Hopefully segwit adoption helps brings these fees down as this is making Bitcoin very expensive to use.



Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Skarner21 on August 27, 2017, 11:44:32 PM
That was the problem right now the transaction fee the bitcoin fees in the past few hours and yesterday are actually really high default fee compare today that gradually reduced the transaction fee..
If you are still having this problem better to use the viabtc transaction accelerator. .that i think it can help to confirm. or hire someone to confirm your transaction.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: MinerHQ on August 28, 2017, 01:14:40 AM
bitsler are most trusted gambling site in gambling world.

True. Just because some people faced a long confirmation time, an issue that beyond bitsler's capability to solve it, doesn't mean bitsler is untrustworthy.

I think you misunderstood the OP main post. He is requesting to allow users to choose the transaction amount instead Bitsler fix some maximum limit. If he fixed maximum transaction fee amount then Bitsler is responsible for the slower transactions. Users can use maximum amount what site has provided and after that site need to make sure transactions are done on time. Bitsler is responsible for all these delays.

It looks like many people are facing this issue recently and they should have handled this issue better way.

bitsler are most trusted gambling site in gambling world.

True. Just because some people faced a long confirmation time, an issue that beyond bitsler's capability to solve it, doesn't mean bitsler is untrustworthy.

he also said that his transaction is not confirmed for more than 48 hours. but he don't know that for the last 48 hours there were almost 90 thousand unconfirmed transaction out there. so he shouldn't blame bitsler.

Week end I withdrew my money from fortunejack and received within few hours. How they can do it and why bitsler can't do it? It all depends on how much transaction amount you pay.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: klf on August 28, 2017, 03:58:20 AM
I don't think bitsler is scam. you should pay the high fees for transaction if you want to complete your transaction quickly. Once my transaction was pending for 24 hours they return my actual amount and also pay me the bonus.

OP is not saying that they are a scam but may be disappointed with the confirmation delay. Since blockchain is very much crowded so sometimes these delays are expected. I think by now this transaction should have been confirmed already. If not then you can request in this thread to speed up your transaction. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2114273.0


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Barcode_ on August 28, 2017, 05:08:49 AM
The reason for the delay is due to the congestion of bitcoin blockchain being jammed up with a lot of transactions, but I do understand OP point of view, maybe Bitsler could set up a few more selection for users to select the amount of miner fees on withdrawal as some users might need their bitcoin urgently and they do not mind paying a higher miner fees for that.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: JaeryTum on August 28, 2017, 07:08:03 AM
60K fee is high enough, clearly it is on blockchains' side which causes the delay due to heavy traffic. I usually use accelerator even if my fee is the minimum fee set by the site. In just 1 hour it's already in my wallet.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: adaseb on August 28, 2017, 07:32:35 AM
This is why I really think many casinos should just list Bitcoin CASH as an alternative cryptocurrency to gambling. Because people with most casinos generally don't leave their BTC in the site due to hacks.

So they do a deposit and then later on they do a withdraw and they lose fees due to the congested network. If they added Bitcoin CASH which everybody already owns it would solve these problems. And people would just bet 85% more to make up the price difference.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: klf on August 28, 2017, 08:08:22 AM
This is why I really think many casinos should just list Bitcoin CASH as an alternative cryptocurrency to gambling. Because people with most casinos generally don't leave their BTC in the site due to hacks.

So they do a deposit and then later on they do a withdraw and they lose fees due to the congested network. If they added Bitcoin CASH which everybody already owns it would solve these problems. And people would just bet 85% more to make up the price difference.

Why only Bitcoin cash? why not other altcoins?

There are many other altcoins are there and for example, ETH transactions are quite faster compared to Bitcoin cash transactions then why you want to use Bitcoin cash only?

It all depends on what individual what to gamble because even casino allows to play with bitcoin cash but players insist to use only bitcoins. It will confirm soon or later but takes some time.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Bitinity on August 28, 2017, 08:58:48 AM
This is why I really think many casinos should just list Bitcoin CASH as an alternative cryptocurrency to gambling. Because people with most casinos generally don't leave their BTC in the site due to hacks.

So they do a deposit and then later on they do a withdraw and they lose fees due to the congested network. If they added Bitcoin CASH which everybody already owns it would solve these problems. And people would just bet 85% more to make up the price difference.

Unfortunately BitcoinCash is not supported by most big gambling site, and I agree with them who are not supporting the coin. Bitsler has better altcoins such as Eth and LTC, why they need to add BCH? It wont make any differences as BCH is not even better than the available coins at Bitsler.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Tiger777Bitsler on August 28, 2017, 01:34:23 PM
You do realize Bitsler doesnt controll Blockchain right? If you transaction has a txid then its not bitslers fault you just have to wait...


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: rortan75 on August 28, 2017, 05:38:04 PM
You do realize Bitsler doesnt controll Blockchain right? If you transaction has a txid then its not bitslers fault you just have to wait...

so how we can make our transaction confirm quickly?


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: actmyname on August 28, 2017, 05:57:45 PM
so how we can make our transaction confirm quickly?
Withdraw via altcoins and save the hassle of the large fee + wait time.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: IOTAscam on August 29, 2017, 02:02:41 AM
Finally, my transaction got confirmed after 60+ hours.

This is the worst experience I encounter and never go to Bitselr site now on because admin never bothers to help me out with this issue.

His attitude has changed a lot compared to last time when his site was still new.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: actmyname on August 29, 2017, 03:12:08 AM
This is the worst experience I encounter and never go to Bitselr site now on because admin never bothers to help me out with this issue.
What's he supposed to do? Pay a pool to accelerate your transaction?  ::)
What is the highest fee that you're willing to pay for a 'quick' transaction, by the way? For a recent withdrawal of mine, Stake used 150 sat/byte for a total of 0.0022 and it still took about 3 hours. It could just be the blockchain that was slow given this detail.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: IOTAscam on August 29, 2017, 03:32:34 AM
This is the worst experience I encounter and never go to Bitselr site now on because admin never bothers to help me out with this issue.
What's he supposed to do? Pay a pool to accelerate your transaction?  ::)
What is the highest fee that you're willing to pay for a 'quick' transaction, by the way? For a recent withdrawal of mine, Stake used 150 sat/byte for a total of 0.0022 and it still took about 3 hours. It could just be the blockchain that was slow given this detail.

Then you will pay?

I already paid the maximum amount set by him and if the transaction didn't through who's the problem?

Just because he is paying you every week don't come and show your support. Before writing think logically.

I already paid a maximum fee then why should I need to wait so long? If there was an option to pay more fee than I would have done that but he didn't provide me with that option then whose mistake?

I'm talking about 60+ hours, not 3 hours.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: MillionsBTCdev on August 29, 2017, 03:48:46 AM
This is the worst experience I encounter and never go to Bitselr site now on because admin never bothers to help me out with this issue.
What's he supposed to do? Pay a pool to accelerate your transaction?  ::)
What is the highest fee that you're willing to pay for a 'quick' transaction, by the way? For a recent withdrawal of mine, Stake used 150 sat/byte for a total of 0.0022 and it still took about 3 hours. It could just be the blockchain that was slow given this detail.

Then you will pay?

I already paid the maximum amount set by him and if the transaction didn't through who's the problem?

Just because he is paying you every week don't come and show your support. Before writing think logically.

I already paid a maximum fee then why should I need to wait so long? If there was an option to pay more fee than I would have done that but he didn't provide me with that option then whose mistake?

I'm talking about 60+ hours, not 3 hours.

Nobody's mistake. The obligation of Bitsler is to send your withdrawal according to your chosen fee. If you chose 0.0006, bitsler will send your transaction using an estimated priority fee. Once bitsler sent your withdrawal, the obligation ends there. It is now out of bitsler's hands. Bitsler does not control when your transaction will get confirmed. If you could provide a tx id, we could analyze it more and see what happened. I know its frustrating not to get your withdrawals confirmed asap, but before we blame anyone or bitsler for that matter, lets ask, is it bitsler's fault?  did bitsler fulfilled their obligation to send my withdrawal using what ever fee i chosed? is bitsler liable for very long confirmation time? does the word "estimate" means "sure/certain"? or i am just frustrated and i can't blame bitcoin as a whole so i'll just blame bitsler?


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: oanhoanh1984 on August 29, 2017, 06:22:52 AM
Depend on fee, lower fee is difficult to get confirmation. I have pending for 5 days before complete :P


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: 1982dre on August 29, 2017, 06:46:32 AM
This discussion you see on all dicesites. Most users just don't realize when the transaction is in the blockchain the only thing you can do is wait. Few years ago it wasn't a problem. Last year it could be hell sometimes. Just wait or use the viabtc accelerator.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: adaseb on August 29, 2017, 07:44:44 AM
This is the reason why almost every bitcoin service out there overcharges for withdraw fees like 0.001 BTC per withdraw and submit the transaction at the highest fee possible, usually like 450Sats/byte or so, because it avoids the headache of people complaining about unconfirmed withdraws.

Most people don't know what went on last week with BCH and how they stole half the hashrate and caused a backlog, so people will complain and always blame the gambling site.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Qunenin on August 29, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
As long as you make sure that you jump through all the Hoops that they want you to jump through, and that you actually have a transaction that depending then there's nothing else you can do. All of these exchanges, and I'll decide, they're all going to do the same thing when they feel like it they're going to hold your transactions back.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: posternat on August 29, 2017, 03:45:37 PM
I thought Bitsler is very trusted and I no need to worry admin will help for all the issues but this time very much disappointed the way he is handling the withdrawal issues.

If he can't predict what the correct fee then he should allow us to choose fee for withdrawals but site limits maximum 60K fee. I paid the highest fee for more than 48 hours still not confirmed. If he allows me to increase then I would have paid higher fee for my withdrawal.

It looks he is still don't know how blockchain works so don't know how to adjust withdrawal fees. Should learn from other established casinos. Next time I will be very careful before loading my money in bitsler.

It happens from time to time, and there's no real telling why they do it sometimes we know sometimes we don't. Anytime there's any kind of fluctuation in the market they're probably going to do this to make money for themselves or to stop a loss. Maybe they need to be sure if all he withdrawal are legit and there is no hack attempt.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Crenguta Pintilie on August 29, 2017, 07:11:21 PM
I think his problem is solved now.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: adaseb on August 29, 2017, 07:57:19 PM
I think his problem is solved now.


Yes its solved and it was a very easy and simple solution; just wait. Basically you check the blockchain and look at the fee and then you compare it to
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1w and you can estimate how long it will take to confirm.

Usually low fee transactions always confirm on the weekend.

Most of us would do that however 99% of all the new adopter to Bitcoin have no idea how it works. Hence most exchanges and services are smart enough to OVERCHARGE on withdraw fees and send the transaction to the network with a 450+ Sat fee to make sure it confirms fast, because its clogs up support with issues due to withdraw waiting times.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Addisonboy on August 29, 2017, 08:39:58 PM
I think his problem is solved now.


Yes its solved and it was a very easy and simple solution; just wait. Basically you check the blockchain and look at the fee and then you compare it to
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1w and you can estimate how long it will take to confirm.

Usually low fee transactions always confirm on the weekend.

Most of us would do that however 99% of all the new adopter to Bitcoin have no idea how it works. Hence most exchanges and services are smart enough to OVERCHARGE on withdraw fees and send the transaction to the network with a 450+ Sat fee to make sure it confirms fast, because its clogs up support with issues due to withdraw waiting times.

thanks for your info. I honestly don't know where to check that how long it will take to confirm my transaction and I don't know how it works.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: MinerHQ on August 30, 2017, 01:53:04 AM
I thought Bitsler is very trusted and I no need to worry admin will help for all the issues but this time very much disappointed the way he is handling the withdrawal issues.

If he can't predict what the correct fee then he should allow us to choose fee for withdrawals but site limits maximum 60K fee. I paid the highest fee for more than 48 hours still not confirmed. If he allows me to increase then I would have paid higher fee for my withdrawal.

It looks he is still don't know how blockchain works so don't know how to adjust withdrawal fees. Should learn from other established casinos. Next time I will be very careful before loading my money in bitsler.

It happens from time to time, and there's no real telling why they do it sometimes we know sometimes we don't. Anytime there's any kind of fluctuation in the market they're probably going to do this to make money for themselves or to stop a loss. Maybe they need to be sure if all he withdrawal are legit and there is no hack attempt.

I didn't understand what you're talking about? OP never say that bitsler didn't send money but his worry was transaction took a lot of time to get confirmed. These are most common frustration when a person needed an urgent money and couldn't get it on time. This issue is already solved and OP should lock this thread.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: pentol86 on August 30, 2017, 09:59:57 AM
next time, you can use exchange services,  its same cost with your high fees in bitcoin. altcoin is fast.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Addisonboy on August 30, 2017, 10:16:15 AM
next time, you can use exchange services,  its same cost with your high fees in bitcoin. altcoin is fast.

bitcoin cash is fast too. they can use BCC


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: 1982dre on August 30, 2017, 11:40:24 AM
next time, you can use exchange services,  its same cost with your high fees in bitcoin. altcoin is fast.

bitcoin cash is fast too. they can use BCC

I mostly convert some BTC => altcoin for gambling. I play on different sites and transactions are way faster.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: rortan75 on August 30, 2017, 06:03:45 PM
next time, you can use exchange services,  its same cost with your high fees in bitcoin. altcoin is fast.

bitcoin cash is fast too. they can use BCC

I mostly convert some BTC => altcoin for gambling. I play on different sites and transactions are way faster.


why the transaction is slow using btc rather than other Cryptocurrency . even they have separate the BTC and BCC.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: iluvbitcoins on August 30, 2017, 10:29:45 PM
why the transaction is slow using btc rather than other Cryptocurrency . even they have separate the BTC and BCC.

BCC has a 8MB block while BTC has a 2MB block
+ they removed some stuff from the transactions to speed them up a bit too.

Bitcoin has always had scaling issues, other cryptos haven't reached that stage yet.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: Reid on August 31, 2017, 12:57:19 AM
I don't think bitsler is scam. you should pay the high fees for transaction if you want to complete your transaction quickly. Once my transaction was pending for 24 hours they return my actual amount and also pay me the bonus.

He did pay the high fee but he is telling that there should be an option for a more higher fee just so the transaction would be faster.

You shouldve just go to their support and complain there. Have you files a ticket just so they will see that there is some stucked transaction.
I am guessing this is a problem in the blockchain. Just try to use the services where they will push your transaction to be faster.


Title: Re: Bitsler withdrawal pending for more than 48 hours
Post by: IOTAscam on August 31, 2017, 01:48:47 AM
I got my withdrawal after 60+ hours so I'm closing this thread.