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Hello guys !
I'm new here. Sorry for my bad English.
In my opinion whatever is done by the hand of man can be broken / destroyed. I know, you believe this can't be possible because a lot of people can't make a perfect strategy. In the last 24 hours I wanted to break this myth and I think I SUCCESS!!! You do not believe me, but I will attach you some pictures to see that I have succeeded.
All is automated (dicebot).
This post is not created with the purpose of giving me great. I want you to know it's possible. I'm probably going to sell the strategy but at this moment I will test it for a week to convince me that it's perfect, and if it is not, I will perfect it. I'll keep you up-to-date within the time available. I will probably leave some tips here  ;)

Photos : https://m.imgur.com/a/PPjur

Sorry, but I (we?) don't understand what you are trying to say? I checked your screenshots and your story. But it does not make any sense to me?

I mean, I think I found the perfect formula to win constantly. I made a simulation in dicebot and always go out in profit. In the pictures you can see 2 simulations of 35,000 hands and both went on profit.

Well, you are not the first one who thinks he cracked the system :) You will always loose from the house in the end. It is just maths ...

I understand you, but I made 80.000+ hands and I was always on the profit. I'll do another simulation with 100,000 hands and I'll post here the result.

https://m.imgur.com/a/5bDxf
Again win, with 100.000 hands and still a huge profit.  :D

Well, if you don't share what you programmed to get that results, I still don't understand what it does ;)

You really think your strategy will last forever? You are just lucky now , wait for it . When the chance is more , the number of hands you win continuously before bust increases and vice versa . Without sharing the strategy if you say its not gonna bust forever then nobody will believe you because at the end of the day its casino who wins .

Currently I do not pronounce myself, but considering that I have 175,000 + hands that have brought me steady profit, I think there are chances to have found the right method. As I have already said: everything that is done by the hand of man can be broken by man.  :)

You found a formula to beat a math equation?  Very impressive.  Is it time travel?  Knowing the future?  Psychic?  please please share what you know with us so we can all get rich.  My guess is you have figured out how to time travel.

But provably fair system to pick random number is based on computer system rather than in any manual input from Human. Also like said above no any strategy will work in dice for longer time. Eventually your system might stop giving you profit.

I know everything is random in Dice games. As I said above, I have 180,000+ hands played out of which all have earned me. I will test this strategy for a week to see if it really is profitable

Without sharing your win percentage, base bet, etc. we've little way of knowing whether this run is to be expected or if you've somehow managed to survive variance longer than most. All the same, you've made profit with your system on <200,000 bets. You know of course a lot of strategy gamblers using bots do millions in a day. What's happening to you now is called luck. Variance works both ways. Continue keeping that system running long enough... it will swing the other way and you'll bust. That eventuality is guaranteed.

The only one who can profit from a system that runs up millions of wagers is your referrer, so he's the real winner ;)

Why not just tell me what it is?  I can help you verify if its really real or not.

Basically what OP said is, that he was able to beat the casinos with his self made strategy since casinos are just made by man and it is possible to be broken by another man.

Ok Op, you profited. Good for you. But you see all you did was do a few bets and not really a whole lot of bets. Lets see you bet about 100,000 bets and see if your strategy still works. You just got lucky there, but you know statistically no strategy can work over the casinos. It's statistically impossible because of house edge.

dont share it! keep it for yourself

Base bet : 0.00000020
Profit per hour : 0.00063148
Largest lost : 0.00722377 (with ~ 40 lose streak)

This information is after I had ~ 13,000 hands. Currently it's a profitable strategy (I try it yesterday and I have not had any losses so far).

@jackpotRacer : probably I will sell it because now I'm a little broke (I bet for now with dogecoin, not bitcon). I don't know now, I want to test this strategy for ~ 1 week to see the results.  :D

I am guessing OP is a newbie to gambling and have not really experience the hard truth about strategies in gambling.
OP, don't fly too close to the sun or you will fall. Be happy with what you got and don't even think that you can profit from this in the long run.
There is nothing you can do that will defeat the casinos! If this was even remotely true, haven't you thought of that someone else might have
been able to do what you have done already? If it was possible why do you think the casinos are all still here?

I know what you said. ALWAYS casinos wins. But, as I said earlier, I believe that what is done by the hand of man can be destroyed. That's what I always count on, like now. I do not want to say at the moment, it's a strategy I barely test, I did not use a long term but after a week I promise to come back with details. If I lose, I will try to see where the problem is and fix it. If I fail to get a positive result, I will tell you. I am not the kind of person who does not accept failures. :)

That is just not possible.Let me tell you why,
1.Gambling sites don't use newbie programmers or algorithms which are easily predictable.They consider all test cases before deploying stuff to production.The random number generation algorithms are very hard to crack,sometimes not using a single computer.
2.There is a word for your technique which exists since forever it's called martingle.You can put it they way you want to,there is no way you can only profit from a gambling site.

@Patatas : THIS IS THE POINT ! "The random number generation algorithms are very hard to crack". Yes, is very hard, but it is possible. In my opinion my strategy is working. Yes, it's a type of martingale, but with special algorithm.

If you say so,if that's the case I'd like to see your method in action ? For example,you can take any gambling website and maybe show a winning steak of 10 times in a row with high odds ? If your method works for website 1,you can try the same for website 2 and convince all of us whatever you are saying is indeed true.

Really your strategy works? you should keep it to yourself. you can make millions and prove us wrong! strategies(on luck games) don't work dude, it's all luck!

We are leaving the idea that this strategy is based solely on luck. Do you say how many hands to play to see that it is really a profitable strategy? Every time I simulated the bets, I won. If it were luck, I should have lost during these bets.

New thread coming next week:
"casino scammed me, i lost 50 bets in a row!"  ;D

Seriously, long run dice strategy doesn't exist.

 :D I appreciate your humor! Seriously speaking, I'm on my shoulders and I take my actions. So I'm not going to start crying. If I have so many hands won so far, it's an interesting strategy. If I lose, I will analyze the last betting hands and try to set a suitable algorithm for the last X hands.

Do you have some other proof other than those screenshots, they don't really show much.
You say it's a form of martingale, right? What's the difference with regular martingale?

Dice is ALWAYS a -EV game, so this couldn't possibly work long term.

I do not want to sell anything at the moment, so those screenshots are not false, they're just not to believe I'm going to lie. The multiplier differs from the normal version, this being not 2.

I've been into playing a roll dice but this strategy will not gonna work in a long run. They seem to have some AI to record all your moves if the AI detects that you are repeatedly using the same method, the AI will automatically change the algorithm and you will have a hard time again to guess what algorithm to use. Before you do that you will notice that you lose too much of you coins in the long run.

@Eternalgloom : If you want other evidence just tell me and I'll show you.
@Balderon : It is too early to say whether I will win millions or not  :D. If this strategy will work for a long time, be sure I'll don't sell (I would not have a reason).
@Oceat : I can not say that I guess the dice sites algorithm, I just say that through a thorough analysis, through many losses and failures, I managed to balance the winning chance with the number of losses I would have

Scrolled for the good jokes down your post because it is all great. I think there are still flaws about this strategy, can you try making the bets higher and your starting bitcoin capital at 10- 20 BTCs. I think I will be buying this strategy.

How your simulation bot work? It's just run in your computer?
Ok, you prove your simulation bot make a profit, but it's useless if can't against provably fair system.

You can't rely on the analysis, it's not trading which have a habit, you should break the algorithm and the math system.

I think you can use dogecoin to test the bot in real bet.

What is the game you are playing and what kind of mathematical strategy are you using? Any hints?

@ReindeerOnMe.: Unfortunately I can not afford to have the 10-20 BTC capital. In fact, I do not even have 1, 2 BTC. I'm counting dogecoins to test the strategy. I still need some small changes that I make when I notice some irregularities in the betting system. Tomorrow I'll deal with some small stakes problems.
@avatar_kiyoshi.: I made those simulations to make it easier to figure out if there really are problems and what needs to be corrected. Yeah, play on dogecoins to test. Photo : https://m.imgur.com/a/dd6uh
@michaelch.: It's about martingale. The following days maybe I'll give you some tips.  :)

my tip for you :)

dont tell and dont share and dont sell!

take all yourself

good luck

If you're making a profit from your method then no need to prove anything to the public instead you can continue making a profit from your method and enjoy your money. But if you want to sell your method to someone then people will ask you to prove many things and I don't believe that you can win always from these random number games.

@JackpotRacer.: Thank you for the tip ! :) I really appreciate it.
@klf.:  The purpose of this posting is to demonstrate that it is impractical to create a betting system that will bring you steady profit.

well done and good luck , i would just sit here and watching until the time when you realize you have wasted time making non sense reaseach formulating strategy to win constantly in gambling. i have seen a lot of people who doing this , think that they found a winning strategy , but in the end they realize it was just a straight luck and you relate it to some pattern which believed as a winning strategy. have fun and good luck to you.

@poplolnman.: Yes, maybe I'm just a lucky person now, but I want to do a diary here. I'll post future repairs, future problems when need to be resolved and prinscreens with the results. Good luck too !  :D

Exactly, if you have such formula and why there is a need to make the money by selling that winning formula ? You can also win big money by using that formula; You will have to face such questions. Best luck for you :)

Yes. You're right :)

Update : now I'll test same formula, but I'll make a little change at multiplicator and number of losses incurred. If will work, I'll improve profit and the rate to not lose all the bank. I'll post here a photo with results after ~ 2.000 hands.

You're really stubborn and still believe that you can win against the casino using a strategy. Well lets see you really roll 100,000 rolls ans see if you are still in
profits. I hope you don't believe that you were the first one to ever try and beat the casino using a strategy, did you? Many have tried but look where the casinos
are. They are still here and they are even growing.

A very wise thing to so rather than on planning it on selling that method/ bot.Spoiling it while it last would make him money since he declared that he already break those gambling site hashes and provably fair system.  which i do believe that its really impossible to think off that this thing would happen. If you do really serious on making money you would not plan to share it to public for sure in the very first place.

I agree, it's just luck, which will end sooner or later. I do not believe in strategy for gambling. I think that all this is fiction.

This is just a simulation if I am not wrong and not an actual gambling?  Anyway hashes are random and so is the internal setup of the game.  And fyi, simulation always have a marginal error beside the result depends on how you make it look like.  Remember it is only a program but if you have an application that can be injected on the system of the casino and can modify result then I can say, you can definitely break the casino system since it will go according to the injected program.

@LuanX3.: You have in this topic 2 simulations with 100.000 hands each.
@Olacris.: Now I don't know what will make with this strategy. For moment I want to be 100% it work for a long time.
@serjent05.: Take a look up, I posted a screenshot with my balance with real money.

I think in the first part of your post you are right. Everything that man created can be destroyed as this has held true for as long as we have lived. However in your next posts and in what you are saying I find it hard to believe that this is fool proof. However if this is true that eoyld really pose some problems.

After 6h+ full of mathematical calculations, tests and nerves, I managed to improve my strategy.
Fixed : bet amount and the multiplication factor.
I also have "fragmented" the series of thousands of bets in smaller rows (around 20, 30 hands).
Results :
Initial bank : 0.02568814
After exactly 1h : 0.03592234
Hands played : 13.000+
I want tomorrow to reduce the chances of losing.

Your stats are showing something else. You have 6954 wins and over 28000 losses! That's a lot for somebody who wins constantly ;D
There are no formulas or perfect strategies in dice. You can be lucky or not, that's all. One day you put in 3 bets and win all 3 in a row, another day you'll come with confidence and lose 5 in a row. You can't predict that.

What are you even trying to say your topic doesn't match your content at all and it looks like you have some sort of bot that even when you lose 20000 times and win some 1000 times you are still in profit. First of all there is no bot made that can give you profits always the house edge will always win no matter what

this will be interesting how you will accomplish this

good luck

Affirmatively your correct since if gambling have formula's then there are gamblers must be rich on that way, I really can say that losses are dominating interms of gamblings since this is more occuring on our playing times and winning times are just rarely occured in a day.

That used to be the case with traditional gambling Beleive me, I've said the same thing as you many times. I've become familiar with a handful of gaming/dice sites and the people on them. Also, unlike traditional gambling, obtaining your stats, win/loss ratios, wagered amounts, +/- profit amounts and so on.... I even know a site that tells me the stats of all my referred players.

I've seen many times people that have been playing on the same site for a few years on the green side of the profit column. I've been back and forth across the line of green and red many times. Sometimes in the green for weeks at a time.

I'm not saying that there is a strategy that works every time. No sure thing. No such thing as an unbeatable method.
As our OP is soon to find out. There are, however, brilliant minded people that kind do the simple math here, calculate the odds and loss risk/reward multipliers and design a more educated approach to the way they wager. Especially in "dice". These people can usually earn a nice amount before the highly improbable, yet inevitable loss streak takes it all back.

Sorry OP. Your strategy, although I'm sure it is amazing and working for you today. But you will be forced to abandon it and formulate another and another. Good Luck to You.

"Remember, provably fair is an overused  term and in most cases, improperly used. It'd be better defined as provably unaltered. Fair has no place in gambling" - Q

this happen due to a system designed for the gambling site . in 100 roles you may win on 10 to 15 rolls i you have luck on that day you may win most of coins on the single role or poker match.
If you keen to loose your money, please be away from the gambling especially on bitcoin. I suggest you try to invest on mining, trading, lending and etc...

This is why bitcoin gambling is really profitable nowadays because of those people who do still gamble and believe that they have their own ways on being profitable.I dont know where they do get those courage to say to everybody that they do have a way to be profitable and making constant profits on a site.You cant force someone not to play gambling and do make investment because people will really engage on it because this is the easiest way on making money.

You have a good strategy based on super luck, but can it last forever, that's the main question. HOW TO SAY ALL what is done by a person, maybe it's destroyed, I'm at the casino .. And beat the casino, oh, how difficult.

I understand that OP is coming up with some new dicing strategy and he developed a dice bot based on his new strategy. The screenshots are showing positive results when he ran simulations. But I am not seeing any evidence that those simulations were done under real time conditions and instead of going for live running why he went for simulations.

In my experience, no strategy will be capable of handling how a gambling house generates seeds. No houses are having only one algorithm. They must be having multiple methods to generate seeds that is the reason no strategy will be running successfully in long run.

Yes. I know it's about lucky. For example : you can lose a streak with 5 hand with 95% chances. are poor, but there are. I want to combine the chances of losing (whatever it is), the bets and the profit to create a balance. There are people who, when betting, rely only on luck (like martingale), are people like me who want to compute, test, and manage to get close to perfection.  :)

Nothing wrong in trying different things but don't be over smart because we have some limitations and can't calculate so many combinations. Also, there is no guaranty that what results you got today tomorrow also will get same results. Always fix some amount of trying these new strategies and don't over spend on these games.

I am sure anyone engaging in gambling to the level OP is priding himself as to the point of having a strategy to destroy gamblers, he will by default knows those rules even though they are unwritten. What I am looking forward to is just to see his consistency the more and know where this will end.

I know, what results what results do today, tomorrow are different. I am aware of this, but my goal is that at the end of each day I will make a profit (whichever it is) or, at worst, lower my account balance by a maximum of 10% (which I will recover the next day anyway).

Most strategies seem to work very well, until you hit a really long losing streak and you lose way more than you can win.

I think I found the magical formula. :) I have made some improvements today and the result is this :
Betting time : 1 h
Hands played : 210.000 +
Profit : 0.013

Photo : http://imgur.com/a/akIST

I repeat to you: I'm not lying. I have no reason to do that. I just want to contradict the above who said that it's just about luck (it's an ambition) :)

What if next day also you lose 10% and if that continues for next few days?

You again making the biggest mistake which we shouldn't do in gambling like trying to recover your gambling losses from gambling. Many people already told you that these strategies will not give you profits continuously so always gamble carefully.

Chasing gambling losses is the biggest mistake many gamblers will do. This is really a very dangerous and it will make you addicted to gambling very quickly. So never chase your lost and don't make any fixed target. If you start to play to win some fixed amount this will not work in gambling. When you play randomly that time only you can make some profit in gambling.

3 days get constant profit. To test the efficiency of the strategy again, I will use it for 2 hours and a half (550,000+ hands). I'm curious about the result. I will come back with details after I have a result.

I agree with you that trying to make recovery of previous losses can indeed destroy a gambler and make him a complete addict if care is not taken that's why I've been advising on this forum against such a habit. There's the need for us as well to only set realistic targets when gambling so that we don't attempt to make any fixed unrealistic target that could as well lead us into addiction.

Pretty coold but I don't think that it can be better for everyone because it will surely recuire PC system and also as it is gambling then i think it will be risky for us because a small mistake can result into loss of money .
Here personally i was also having the bot for the automatic gambling and also made profit with that trick of bot automatic better at freebitco.in but after 3-4 daye tye trick get dumped to a hole of high loss because i started my Betting with deposit of 0.2btc and when after i come back to see what tue progess thenni found that only 0.03 btc left and gambling is continuing .
So here instead to take big risk , make small earnings only don't get into high risk gambling because therr remain akways a house edge factor which lower the chances of winning , so it wilo be morr better for you to start betting bot for sports games :)

I am the type of person who tries a few times and if I do not see results, I abandon (most of the time). I earn on average 10% of the bank per day. I'm out of town today, but tomorrow I want to play 1,000,000 hands. Only after that will I be able to tell whether it is profitable or not in the long run. I realize that at some point I'm likely to lose. Mathematically speaking, you can lose 10 hands at a time with a 95% chance. Here I agree that it is good luck, but I want to minimize the role of luck and maximize the role of discipline and calculations.

You need to try a strategy much more than few times if you want to reach on long term test. But doesn't matter the strategy you are going to use, you will always reach to a long loss streak after some time. Maybe OP is so excited about his strategy because he is trying it for 1 day or so. It's normal to have success on such period of time, but if he tries it for much time I'm sure he will lose all his money and everyone who follows the strategy the same.

Of the basic strategy came out one adjacent, but you are not happy with it. offers an extremely small profit. with a bank of ~ 10,000 Dogecoins I have a profit of only ~ 1,500. the chances of losing the entire bank are extremely low, somewhere at 0.05. I will also try to reduce the chances of losing to the basic strategy once more. For me, 1.000.000+ hands is a long run in my opinion.

You say your strategy is perfect, I see with a win rate of 97%, starting balance 0.5 and profit 0.02 a day? I'm sorry, if I play with that much of balance, I will not take too long to create play with a bot. but honestly your achievement is not perfect, because you have to keep trying at all dice site. different place - different flavor. Good luck .

By watching your devotion and effort, I am simply shocked. This is how much you are into gambling, unimaginable. I always use to say gamblers are very rich in mind. I don't know whether these hard calculations of yours are gonna win you any game but still impressed by your intelligence. Use your talent somewhere else dude!

I'm sorry .... If everybody goes away from the idea that "if others fail, you will not succeed", we would not have reached this stage of evolution. Perhaps I had that "glitter" and I was able to create something good.
@ raven7886 I'm sorry to bother :). Maybe I really will lose everything and it's not a good strategy. You could even wait to see if I were at that stage or, why not, still win and continuously improve the strategy. I notice that I'm not welcome here and that I upset some people. I'm pulling out of here :).
I wish you well !

OP, what makes your strategy different from existing strategies? how you deal with the possibility of emergence long losing streaks that most strategies can't handle?

The chances of losing the whole bank are extremely low. are somewhere below 0.05%. Indeed, chances are. but there is (I'm realistic, it's a gamble, chances are you lose at any time, but my strategy is extremely small). As I said above, since I'm not welcome here, I will not say anything.

Wait a second.

https://i.imgur.com/WApIc0V.jpg

If you search in google 999dice you will find only scam,scam,scam.
Isn't that proven scam site because they rigged provably fair results?
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BTW what does this screenshot has to do with your post? You are claiming that you've found winning strategy and you are showing us 999dice with 0.2DOGE on.

It probably is scam. At the moment only play with free money (0.005 Dogecoins). Until I'm sure it's a profitable strategy, I will use this site. Later I will bet real money on the bitsler. What I like about 999dice is that I can place 200 bets at 2, 3 seconds. do you know any similar site that offers this option (to place a few hundreds of bets in seconds)?

Why don't you just share your method here so we can try to use it and we can prove if it's working or not.
The thing is, it's really hard to trust people who said they have the winning method because it's hard to win in gambling, and if I am not mistaken you are playing dice which is the easiest game to play but hard to win in the long run. I'll tell you if that would be working then you really give us a good chance to be rich here, so share it now.

Definitely English is bad, but you're forgiven, I get it you mean to say gamblers will get destroyed if they play without a strategy, that was quite a risk playing on autobot but good for you that you made some good money on it. I have never played with a strategy, I just randomly play, cause the ones who played with a strategy have lost to, that means it's not full proof you shall win only, so makes no sense to play with a strategy.

Well,good for you to discover a new strategy and if you share  your formula, method or whatever it is,it is a big help for us. Since,I have a little bit confused about your topic, I still want to say that gambling addictions destroy lives, and these are just a few of the ways that this addiction harms people when they do not stop gambling.

I do not see the reason why I would disclose such a method, especially in a place where I am told to leave. in spite of others, I will stay here and limit myself to telling what I have improved and what results I have (including both simulations and real money bets). I do this so that everyone can see that there are strategies that have an extremely low loss rate that can bring a fairly high income. We have adapted the strategy to be as risky as possible. I'll come back in a few hours with pictures. :)

Well, you have the right to your opinion and we have right to our opinion. It is gambling discussion after all.
I agree that there are strategies with low loss rate, still, loss rate exists and eventually you will get seeds which won't go into your favor and you will lose. You are forgetting dice is game with negative expected value.
As I said you can run low risk strategies for days and at some points you will lose.
Still, curious about pictures.

Maybe you just lucky,from my experince play that sofware there is no such thing as strategy ,all just luck

Why you give the clarification to others, you are great and you are perfect in dicebot. I accept it because you find the perfect strategy to use in it and get winning every time. But i respect you, that you are ready to tell us your strategy, you have a big heart. Because if i am in you place and i find a perfect strategy then may be i will not tell to anyone. But best of luck and go on in your game.

That is so mean of you. However, if the strategy goes on in air, soon there will be hurdles in its ways. I think the guy is very happy for his discovery and wants to share his knowledge with others. A big round of applause for this good work and hope I will see a new millionaire soon.

Balance 0.521
Profit     0.021

You made 5% profit with your 0.5 btc on dices and you are saying that you find perfect strategy for taking money. I`m sure that you are playing with auto betting cause its impossible to have so many throws manually, but what saved you is very big bankroll.
With 0.5 btc I would never play dices on auto betting, I would play dices with 0.1 maximum and with my own strategy. The rest of the money I would deposit in some better casino with better games, I would play slots and roulette, poker, with that amount of bitcoins you can play all of that and have more success then with dices. But that is me and I enjoy in that.

PS. Change the headline of this thread!

No its only in the beginning you got lucky but in the end you will loose all your btc no perfect bot ever created until now gambling bot has a very small chance to win simultaneously all bot created before has failed believe me.

I told you to keep it for you and take it all

cAn you provide some proof on your discovery>? For example a mathematical representation or a field that can make it visible. In order to cracked the system one must understand the mathematics behind it so does the machine won't be able to calculate your method. Unless you build some really powerful program that cracks gambling boots system and find holes in it, you wont be able to predict what's next, but who knows?

Martingale will take your whole stack sooner or later. The risk to reward ratio is too great to be profitable without an infinite bankroll.  It will work for small percentage profits in the short term ---> but the risks involved make the proposition a bad idea. Be careful with these systems and always protect your bankroll---> no matter how convinced you are about the outcome.

I bet it is a simulation.  We all know that simulation is not 100% correct.  There is always a marginal error once the strategy is applied in real life.  Aside from that error increase or decrease depending on the compatibility of the software setup to the actual sites software set up.  If they are different then we can see a huge discrepancy of result.  Btw, if he uses a martingale method, eventually his balance will be eaten by consecutive loses.

Yeah totally right I also feel the same way when I was playing BAB,
And I always win I thought I cracked the system.

It may seem a lot of times that you're getting a lucky stroke but it seems that he house has a way of doing this to lure gamblers into getting more of their money. Although it's not all the time that it happens, most of the time you'll end up with your capital gone

Actually gambling never lure gamblers to gamble, it's all done on our own and about our capital will gone is that the risk of gambling. we should know and accept about it if not, never try to gamble because you will destroy yourself with the way that we didn't know.

When i was still a newbie on gambling world and do experience some good winnings i do really feel this thing on which you are very lucky and you believe that you made an exploit to their system but the truth you are just being blinded by them and luring you in to play for longer runs because they are confident that you would still continue to play no matter what until you lose up your winnings already together with your capital.

Reading through the thread I've found that no one succeeded in convincing OP that any dice strategy can't be perfect and that it will fail sooner or later. :)

OP, if you still think you've created a unique strategy please try to compare it with the classic martingale:

Base bet = your balance / 2 fifteen times

100% increase on lose

Return to the base bet on win

I'm sure you'll get pretty much same results with your simulations. Or you can divide your balance by 2 twenty times and you'll have less profit in the same period of time but the strategy will work longer, and so on.

interesting but still even using mathematically analysis chances of losing still at stake, we can't avoid certain change of system from the house when they seen this types of strategy they will easily manage to change to whatever types of system they need just to prevent anyone to rape their business.

Dude. That is just screenshots of some normal play. Just not losing. Your first was 2% profit. The one you were lucky on you made 200% 3 tests and 3 outsones is not enough. How many times did you run this? It is very clear you have not broken any myth, because you aren't using a website but a simulation bot. If you were for real you would get serious and bet for real. After Soo you cracked the system and can't lose. Now why are you telling us this and bit wiping out ever casino you find onlines bankroll?

I hope you will be success and share those experience for us, we're hungry for a good stragedy to earn good profit from all the house over the world. The house won too much and we need someone to break that.

I don't believe in your stragedy. Cause i already saw many stragedies that it works at the start but than they've got busted at the next week. Their capital are all gone, so for that experience, i don't trust any stragedy else in this world.

I am really happy to know that you actually made it! This is a common thought among all of us that no any type of strategy can be built to confirm a win when we gamble. But if you are claiming your success by following some simple strategy then obviously it would had happened.

I just want you to share your strategies which would let others to win and fulfill their dreams. Gambling is not a way of earning because sadly we lose most of the time.

I believe there is a way to make profit of this, especially on dice.
The point is to diversify various investments to ensure gains not only in luckgames.
Regarding dice games, I believe that with the right bank it is possible to earn 200ksatoshis per day.

The gold rule is: a huge bank with small gains in relation to it, and patience...  :D :D :D

With huge bankroll to gain only small profit like 200k satoshi/day looks possible at first. But there will be a day when such small target will be very hard to achieve. And if 200k satoshi is the only target we have to achieve daily, then there will be a day when we could lose all our previous profit + our bankroll as well.

There are mechanisms for this ... for example, we can stipulate a sum for loss, which will eventually happen ... such as 35 hi or lo .... we leave this sum to absorb that loss and do not try to recover it ... We just moved on to the next day ....

But let me give you an example ... if I have 1kkk satoshi, and i go 15 times hi (loosing 15s in a row) with odds 1/3 and then i start to put money .... i will choose my risk, you see ... if i put 10s and run doubling it i can support a huge varience, like 40hi in a row ... you see ... you choose your risk


Obviously with such a bank I would start with 1000 or 500s (I would have to do math).
 
The important thing is to liquidate the profit, leave a bank consistent with its strategy and invest in other things, diversify ...

I am not greedy, when I get my 200k satoshis / day, I'll be happy already  :D :D

I think this could be done.  ;D

The win streaks that I saw are least in comparison to losing ones and I really can't believe that there could be a strategy that could survive for longer duration because once the glitch or strategy gets leaked to the site owner, they will do anything to protect the house as well as their bankroll. Your bankroll was very high and it's good that you made profits but everyone cannot afford such amounts because of the price of Bitcoins. If we calculate exactly, you must have put in ~$2100 (based on the price in August) which is too much and unaffordable to lose in a dice site. I have never seen any mechanisms that could beat the house edge forever as they will, someday, betray you.

I agree most of the people wasted their time out of it, but the certain thing about is they enjoy with what they're doing and at the same time that destroyed themselves; like the family relationship and future financial stability. They could managed their addictions that could results to loss of money and other financial problems, and worst is gambling activities is the most priority not the family.

Our weakness is we think too much on how to win in dice and we believe we can have that success in the long run, well if the site is strong in security and they can protect against any bugs the house edge will remain and of course with that they will win in the long run as luck does not last forever.
Being consistent is not possible in dice and in fact there is no strategy that would help us to be consistent, therefore we should know how to treat dice which would be played only for fun.

There are times that you can get many continuous losses before you get a single win also then that time you may lose all your bankroll before winning a single bet. If this method works then many people together can create a huge bankroll and start playing this game and can make easy money right?

If you play with huge bankroll then you may be risking your huge money to earn a small profit. Never make that mistake in gambling.

i just got a 19 loose streak with 49,5 on Bitsler, the thing is these lose streaks will eventually happen

Op who said they already know how to outsmart gambling sites wants to sell his strategy. Why would you sell it if you'll be crazy rich because of your technique? Doesn't make sense right? because it is really not working  for sure.

Well, where is OP now? I don't think he succeeded in what he said here. Likely this guy lost a lot by now. This is totally a newbie gambler's fallacy. They think that they found out a way to defeat the casino, but in reality they have already lost to the casino by thinking it. I think most gamblers here will agree to this and know this for a fact that casinos cannot lose to the gamblers in the long run.

This is very common idea which OP though would yield some income to him. If its giving him profits one will normally make it and not reveal it. Reason is unknown why anybody would be doing unless he wants to have more money and gamble it or is in debt etc due to which he requires money else there should not be reason for him to sell his stratergy.

If he has really reliable strategy then sure he has a right to sell it, it is his choice to sell it or tell to others without money. Well, it is not a issue, he spend his a lot of time then of course he search it then he has a right to sell his strategy and earn from it, I consider it a way of earning and it is a good and suitable way especially for gamblers.     

i don't think is helping for us as player in gamble, strategy and skills we should know of us are the best way how to win in gambling, but not even the expert in gambling or the gambling lord are saying playing gamble are more loses than win, i believe playing gambling need to have greed control fun and recreation prupose not a source of profits.

Well as far as I never heard any gambler suceed in making a strategy that cant lose, you can only win without losing by cheating, and something that I dont understand is, why OP need to make this thread, it will be better for him to just keep the secret and win anonymously, you can win unlimited money if your strategy is working

Lol. What works for opay not work for others because they have different mindset and this different ways to tackle a decision. You'd likely be wasting money paying for other people's strategy that may not work for you

How could you say that this strategy not work for me or us?
We are gambler, we know the rules, if his strategy is not working then do you think anyone buy it, No of course no. It is not easy to make the people stupid.
But first of all, i don't need to buy any strategy, i play gambling with my own strategy wise. I discuss it because in this thread, he said he want to sell his strategy that's why i reply him, it is his choice if he offer it and anyone want to buy it. 

Right except few lucky gamblers I think no one succeeds in gambling. And suppose if anyone knows the strategy to make money in gambling they will not share with others. If anyone is selling there, strategy means either they are also predicting like how we do or else they may try to make some money from players.

I agree with you, and I think main reason for casino to always win from gamblers is house edge and greediness of gambler. Even without manipulating results and providing provably fair games casino will keep on earning something out of every bet despite the luck of the gambler through site's house edge. 1% house edge might not sound quite huge but when a gambler keep trying to beat casino wagering almost 100x of his total bankroll at some point he will loss majority of his only because of house edge.

and casino will not be boomed like this if gamblers can just easily defeat their own greediness, most of us who play gambling can admit that its really hard defeating our own emotions and our greediness inside the game house even we already gaining some decent earnings we tend to choose to continue thinking that we are lucky enough to bring more winnings.

after how many months now.what happens to your strategy test?does it works?have you earned lots of winnings now?share us the latest news about what youve got now.

It is very rare thing that one actually made it possible to earn a lot of money via gambling by using simple techniques and tricks. Actually this could only be helpful in some sort of betting such as sport or in poker game but others such as roulette and dice games are entirely dependent upon the luck and nothing could calculate total earning except your fate.

All I have to say is that you should share some tips on the sharing tips thread or other sort of discussion forums to help your fellows prevent a loss next time they gamble.

You need to standardize your work according to some standard or if you can’t find anyone related to yours, make a standard about you. Follow it and try to implement the strategies regarding this standard. Like you said here, if someone is thinking of earning 200k satoshi daily, it is not that easy. You have to work according to the standard of earning such amount daily.

Of course his strategy won't work! All these "profitable" dice strategies are very risky, as it takes only one bad roll streak to lose everything, while you earn almost nothing on your wins. I think that it's better to bet on 60% chance to win few times and stop gambling - this way you will save emotions and most important, time.

You are right, All the money that he can collect with this strategy can be lost, as it takes only one bad roll to lose everything. Wrong bets are always depend on luck first and how much amount you will bet. By the way, I don't play this kind of games that based only on luck because i know that i will end up with 0$.

That is correct, luck based games are just for the careless and those who don't care about their money but for us the serious gamblers we go  for games that allow us to apply our intellect in making predictions and that is sports betting.

That is the only way they are making money from gambling. And if it is so easy to crack their system, I think they will not be able to continue for more than a month. I think they will certainly changing their system from time to time, which will insure their house edge. So I do not think that it can be so easy to crack their system. They must have good management for making their house edge as sure.

Well, maybe you are just lucky right now and doing your strategy right now maybe is the best way for you to do today. But not all the time, month or year your strategy will last and will still gain profit in the future. But it is good that you are gaining profit, maybe it is better if you will also stop after you hit your goal.

Everyone is expecting that he can do the job so easily, but it is not so easy. Even the expert and experience gambler cannot crack their system so easily. Because running a casino Is not so easy and those people who are owning or running a casino they already know all the threats that they can face while running a casino.

It seems that you have faced some real loss indeed. But do not get worried about the situation. You can leave blister and go for some other option that would help you to attain the lucky streak which actually happens! First you would have to compensate the loss in some other way because this kind of situation does cause a lot of mental stress and then sign up for other casinos to try your luck again.

Well you can say that every gambling game is based on luck, more or less. For example poker, It depends on luck which cards you'll get, but you also can use your skills to bluff to win, so there actually might be some working strategies in this game.

You may be lucky in winning with your dicebot but this wont last long when you try this 2 or 3 times after wards you will start to lose it. As i have tried all types of strategy with dicebot in the end it will be in loss.

People is too superstitious , they think certain pattern can exploit the system but actually it is not.
They create a bot ,run it and for once or twice tried it feels work to make you win , but i am sure it won't run smoothly to give you a constant profit.
Provably fair and house edge there to make sure casino and players to win alternately but -EV makes us as a player to lose more often in the long run.

Well in the world of gambling you mut know if this is the best strategy that will be used everytiime you play. I think it is depend on the situation. We have different kinds of game everyday and one strategy is not enough. You have to use strategy in that situation.

you cant be the casino its impossible they dont have any fair system so you are just playing against someone who has full control of the result even if you win you would never be able to make any profit for the longer run

Is this a strategy or a program that can beat every single person? I ak not actually quite sure on what you are working on and that would ve vague in terms of your conditiosn on it. However I still think that you might have a point I still think about the execution though.

i think he is luck to be win in that day so he can make a lot of money but if we want to try then i think its not a problem too and who know we can win big money too. but i don't think that the bot will help us to win in everytime we playing dice games because this games is pure luck and without luck we can win any money at all.

Good strategy based on super luck? And I thought that I saw everything! There isn't such thing as strategy based on super luck, where did you find this? This two posts are without any sense? Do you people read anything before making a comment?
This strategy that OP presented is nothing more then automated betting, I lost a lot of money like that! You can set it up as you wish, but chances for winning are very low. Who wish to try this I advise to do it for fun and some little amount, if you deposit a lot to try this you will cry in the end.

Perfectly said mate nothing can beat the house in the long run we are just going to regret if we will keep trying it if ever you wanted to try this out better to make sure that you are only using money that you can afford to lose without stressing your self in the end of the day.

This is going to happen unless your luck is really favorable and you keep wining on whatever you bet. But in 90% cases this wont happen and you would finally had to regret about gambling. So better to stay away form all such things and just play to enjoy and even if you lose forget it.

You sound like you are quite confident in your strategy. Where are you playing at? What house edge and features do they offer you?
Why bit try play at Yolodice and she us your strategy there. You can give us your username and people can view your profile as proof. Also if your stategy is as good as you say you will level up lots of times and get a much better rakeback which means even more profits. So give Yolodice a go.

The issue is so many people believe there is a strategy for them to always win in gambling, but that is a very wrong conception and has made so many people to lose their funds today. No wonder gambling sites will ever stop profiting because so many people always believe they can beat them to it.

There is no strategy whatsoever just like you have said, the person might be lucky at first, thinking the strategy is working, then all of a sudden it happens and you just feel like dying at that moment most especially if it was a huge bankroll.

If you really got successful strategy, then you must be winner forever in it game. But i want to ask you, you said that you will sell your strategy after testing it, then you really sell your strategy?
Actually, in it people share their strategies without money or selling. 

If you think you have a right method to wi  in every play in gambling your definitly wrong because there is no such right method to win and conquer all the game..your just in your lucky time man, so just enjoy your lucky time and think to safe your profit and make a move to pay your attention in other things not just only in gambling because in the your will be suffer in because of gambling...just saying!!

the op is a great gambler having that much confident ans as what heve said he got the right method,how long have you been playing if its ok to ask?because if your on that same situation for a year now.i think your one of the millionaire that crypto provided.and im looking forward for you to open share your method here so you can have proof and same time helping others to be richer too

Right, He should show us how he use the perfect formula in Yolodice to allow him to win and make a huge profit. I think if he could prove that his strategy work very well, he will get a lot of money as you said.

It doesn't make any sense. There is no way to make a bot with a strategy to make casinos lose constantly. A gambler will always lose, eventually, no matter what kind of formulas they use. It is true for sure, that every thing has some vulnerabilities and anything made by human can be broken by an human, but that doesn't mean a casino will start losing from a person using a UNIQUE strategy, which, for the years now, has never been applied by any hacker, programmer or any mathematical expert of the world. So as said by someone earlier, if there was anything like that, it would have already been done by someone else, knowing all the knowledge of the particular field, and what you have won has nothing to do with your strategy, but it is all about your luck that worked.

Thank you ! You helped me try to beat this system and I succeeded. I have so far done around 3 BTC. Unfortunately, I do not have much time to lose it in front of a computer, but while I'm at home I let it work overnight. Thanks also to those who do not believe in me. I have decided and will not sell this system for any amount of money. It's not worth spreading across the internet and then not winning. The idea is that after a certain profit, you automatically withdraw a certain amount; Do not play automatically (DiceBot only); not to be greedy.

There's no perfect strategy for gambling, it is just best to stop or quit before you get addicted to it. Gambling is addicting, and once you get addicted to it, the only time you will stop is when you already had lost everything.

I totally agree with what you say. Gambling games can never be done by relying on strategy because whatever we do will not affect the results we will get. Gambling games only rely on a lucky course and this is an absolute thing. This is why many people who think gambling is risky, gambling is not an easy thing to do. Only people who dare to take any risks that can be ready to get any results.

Haha, ;D  you are talking about it. A gambler will never be rich man, when today wins, clear tomorrow will surely lose. It will be repeated over and over again, and they (gamblers) dont realize it because it is fun and addictive.
That's my opinion, how about you?  ;)

Is there anything we can do to break this evil cycle of gambling, from what I have seen, the winning that we get doesn't even cover our losses in the first place. So we are losing money but since we win once in a while we are happy about it.

Yes many are dreaming of winning maybe a jackpot in their lifetime and so they keep playing even though its easy to realize from a distance that gambling is not forthem. I will prefer sports betting to the rest because with that even though you loose you also win substantially to undo your losses if you are strategic about your games and it affords you the chance to make some reasoning inputs.

Gambling means loosing money at some time winning also. If we compare the winning and loosing, winning is lesser the loosing. So it is part of gambling. No one force you to gamble you by your cautious only you play so you should have control on your betting and not blame gambling.

That's your opinion and respect it. I just want you to know that there really is a chance to win from gambling. :)

there not really is a chance to win by gambling, its depend on your luck to play it
I am not sure that any tips or trick really working to win in gambling

I strongly support this statement.

Once people realizes that there's simply no chance for them to win against the house at the long run, they will stop trying to find the perfect method for winning.


Also, the most stupidest thing I have heard is from people who claims that they can always win against dice, unless you found a way to rig the system( actually change the code or found an ingame bug), there is literally no chance to win at the long run. never.
It is the same as betting against someone who has an advantage over you.

Well all i did understand is that you were successful in developing a strategy to override a certain game . I wouldn't advice anyone to follow such strategies or better call them "myths" , since such things are 99% of the time scams . Developing your own strategy that suits your playing style and thinking is the best way to do especially if it's a card game . Other games that are luck dependent should be looked at from a math perspective which will eventually make things easier since there's always order in the disorder and you can calculate the probability of everything and play around it .

Sometimes will work but it will not last in the long run, you need to be consistent if you want to win in gambling and that is a hard thing to achieve actually.  If you play for fun then for sure you will get entertain when you are lucky and you will never get disappointed when you lose because you know you will lose. Therefore everyone should understand that our chance to win in gambling is very low compared to the house, and that is the main reason why they are still here while some gamblers have ruin their lives because of their lack of discipline.

Really?  May I ask: What's your level of mathematics proficiency?  Did you derive a mathematical proof for your discovery or was it obtained by trial and error?  If you can provide a mathematical proof, I may be interested in securing a copy of your automation script.  However, I highly doubt that a proof exists.

You are definitely right. Being able to win does not change the fact that you are still playing with risk and odds. Even if you have the capital or even if you prayed to your God, the chances of winning and losing are still the same. Consider that as your lucky day and if you think that your method works superstitiously, then who am I to stop you? Just remember that you should know WHEN to STOP gambling and only bet the money that you are willing to lose in order to at least lessen your regret. I have a lot of friends who have experienced your situation and almost all of them ended being bankrupt. Best of luck!

True, if we are in the 19th century, old tricks will work but I think time have changed now. Casinos are multi-billion dollars company, and as the technology is being develops, their system are being developed too, they have cameras, computers (supercomputers, dedicated computers mainly for solving combinations and algorithms), professionals for observing people and lawyers to protect their rights. They won't just let us walk into casino and have a lot of cash on the exit. Some casinos even prohibits card counting. Unfair and there's no justice there. But for the sake of one's entertainment and greed for money. People are getting drowned in thier own game and sometimes die in their own greediness.

And if someone change the game, for example invented a method, they will change the rules too, and that method won't be used again. That's how it works and that's why many are just basing on experience and pure luck.

If anyone should have a strategy right now, the last thing they would even want to do is to sell it. The more you blow it out, the more the gambling sites realize the loop hole and they readjust. Aside these, it is just a sorry case because they already know all these tricks which is why we cannot beat the house edge to it most times. I have noticed that even in dice the losing streaks have gotten even longer in most dice games than we use to have them in the past.

Its normal and as a gambling site owner i would really update my site as much as i can on the possible loop holes that you said which would cause on such bankruptcy and im sure they are doing such stuff because no businessman would really like for its business to go down.If theres a way then better to spoil it while it last because if you do share it then gambling sites will get rid of it and make some updates.

That is one huge point you dropped bro!
Except for consistency though which no one would really want to be consistently losing all the time. You said it all anyway, as long as everyone gambling tend to see gambling as fun, it makes them feel relaxed even when they lose and does not make them over bet more than they plan to while betting only what they can afford to lose.

If luck plays out fine, good, and if it does not, fine. The most important thing is to have the mindset that you can lose all while hoping for winnings. How I see it is that, I am paying for a game to have fun and I can win a whole lot in the process.

You can never ever win against casinos because they are the sole controllers of the result of the game. Even if you win and they are against you, you cannot claim for your money. Moreover those people who have caseins are really very criminal minded and usually have bad history. There is no need to get in fight with them. Ignore them as much as you can.

Do not bother asking him to drop any mathematical proof because there is none. If mathematics can help people win in gambling, Mathematics would have been the hottest profession right now, and I am sure even casinos will have to ban Mathematicians from entering the casinos and start requesting for certificates before entering any. He can just keep his strategy to himself, as strategies did not just start popping up yesterday.

To make not get mad from losing at the casino much better if you don't mind or will not hoping for winning this a kind of game. All you have to do just play for fun purposes and limit your money to be gambled to. So that in the end you will not regret instead getting relaxed from gambling because your intention is just to make you fun and entertained there's nothing else.

But the chances of winning and losing money in different games are different, in some gambling games where we totally depend on our luck there our chances are the same but in other gambling games where we do not depend on our luck for everything, and we have the opportunity to use our experience and skill, there we can increase our chances of making money through our experience.

Hi guys,

Took a little time to read about this topic which is very interesting. Its impressive really -  There are so many people here, even referenced to gambling sites that do not have a clue what math can do for us gamblers.

On the other hand, there is so much good info on this forum, by people that know what there are saying, that I just cannot believe the gibberish that has been attested here.

Let me just say I'm very pragmatic and the following words do not intend to criminalize or denigrate any user or identity, to whom it may be concerned.

Now, my humble, yet undoubtful 2 cents - First and foremost, math can evidently help you in any luck game, by the terms of odds. I'm not going to enter in specifics since I've already posted some examples in the past where skilled mathematicians beat the casinos on their own game, to the point where the whole family have been banned to enter that casinos. Sure, there is a house edge, normally 0.5% to 1% and it will eat you out on the long term, using the gambling site interface.

Here enters probably fair - for me, a well skinned-worded hoax that shields some gambling sites out there, from the ignorant players (ignorant as in non-math versed , not pejorative ) from eventual accusations of non fair gambling. Maybe this is the reason why there are no representatives of these gambling sites discussing or commenting for that matter, on the very much interesting and versed posts about probably fairness and its transparent implementation.

Now the sad part is that any BTC gambling site that reiterates that is using probably fair gaming, can only be proofed by the odds when played with some specific mathematical formula. All of them fail to be regulated by some certified regulatory agency (I could be wrong since I do not know every gambling site) therefore, integrity towards the player is very much as stake here. Meanwhile, ask any good mathematician and he/she can surely write a script were the odds will favor the player, despite the sparse yet evident house edge. And yes, there is such a thing called strategy that can ultimatly beat this edge.

Going a little offtopic, I myself play at 2 sites, very well known. On these 2 sites I can irrefutably say that based on the odds permitted by the formula used, one seems to be fair and the other does not - meaning, one behavior can be predicted with a sure level of certainty as per the other cannot on the same time frame with same nonce, using the same exact formula. Any good mathematician will label such behavior as non fair as the site starts to magically beating the odds in a consecutive manner, which by formula definition, is not impossible, but highly improbable. Moreover, the variable of the recurrence which is declared in the formula, starts to reveal a pattern, which ultimately, gives some degree of certainty that the site is in fact rigged.

Long story short, math can help. You just have to be math savvy. But unfortunalty this level of mathematics is not something the average joe reaches out. Or else believe me when I say, there would not be such a thing as a house edge. If everyone had these skills I mean.

But hey... never gamble more than you can possible afford to loose. There are formulas. But they are called luck games for a reason.

I am still waiting for the katest updates on this as I ak genuinely concerned on ow would this program work and if it could really be attributed to the things that you have detailed. ALso it is very surprising to see the obkective of the program