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Title: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Masha Sha on September 07, 2017, 06:47:58 PM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: yoseph on September 07, 2017, 07:12:13 PM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...
Donald Trump at one time during the election campaign last year that US companies should have their manufacturing factories in the US so that they could boost employments in the USA but that will be impossible due to the fact that they pay lower wages in these factories and they will be made to pay more in the US which in turn will make their products even more expensive.


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Masha Sha on September 07, 2017, 07:18:24 PM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...
Donald Trump at one time during the election campaign last year that US companies should have their manufacturing factories in the US so that they could boost employments in the USA but that will be impossible due to the fact that they pay lower wages in these factories and they will be made to pay more in the US which in turn will make their products even more expensive.

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Authoritarian nation shall be deprived of all jobs and invedtments. They are dangerous ennemies of the free world. The dooner they dissapers the better. Buying from them is bad.


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on September 07, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
Manufacturing would only come back to America with increase in automation. Even China knows this. It's shifting away from low-value manufacturing to high-end. Some other country would replace it for making cheap stuff but that country would have a short window until full blown automation takes over manufacturing.


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Sithara007 on September 08, 2017, 02:05:46 AM
In China, the average factory worker is paid around $3 per hour and he works for 12-hours a day with little other benefits. And a worker with the same skill will cost at least $15 to $25 per hour in the United States, and on top of the salary, the company have to provide benefits like Mediclaim. Also, the worker gets overtime allowance if he works for more than 8-hours per day.


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Masha Sha on September 08, 2017, 04:59:40 AM
In China, the average factory worker is paid around $3 per hour and he works for 12-hours a day with little other benefits. And a worker with the same skill will cost at least $15 to $25 per hour in the United States, and on top of the salary, the company have to provide benefits like Mediclaim. Also, the worker gets overtime allowance if he works for more than 8-hours per day.

Of course, but this american worker if he is from oregon may soon vote to depenalize all plants, if he is from california already did for some plants furthermore this worker isn't bound to censor anyone and doesn't have to obey and never critize his gov.

Then authoritarian worker could be slave, if no one buys what they make, it become irrelevant what the cost is.

Propagandist were successful in banning plants, making prohibition, changing laws for lgbt++ so please making made in authoritarian country uncool unattractive and unpatriotic is very easy.

The day walmart clients decide they don't want to send a single cent to a made in authroitarian... you will see.



Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Aladdin-Sane-83 on September 08, 2017, 07:56:16 AM
Exclusivly is most likely not going to happen. The world is not designed to work like that right now. Ressources and middle products will always be made in some low wage countries, besides the fact that some ressources needed for the Iphon (e.g.) are not availaable in the US or Europe (same problem). The rare earth minerals needed for high tech products are available in china and some parts of africa, those countries have export restrictions on these resources in order to keep the manufacturing of products in the country and remain the value stream as long as possible in the own country. This makes it highly unlikely that a whole IPhone will be produced in the US.
What could happen is that companies like Apple, that are under ongoing and increasing pressure due the fact that they hardly pay any taxes and manufacture abroad in low wage countries, move the final assembly to their "home country". This would show some goodwill and is a growing sales criteria to the society, that is well aware of the problems of manufacturing facilities in low wage countries.

I work as a researcher in digital manufacturing at a University, so blief me, I know my share about globalized production systems  :)


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: mahendra-13 on September 08, 2017, 08:39:58 AM
We made it all here in Indonesia


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Sithara007 on September 10, 2017, 02:27:06 AM
We made it all here in Indonesia

It is possible to do that in Indonesia. But the problem in the United States, apart from the very high minimum wage is the abundance of regulations and the bureaucracy and intervention from the employee unions. On top of that, the taxes are also high in the United States, when compared to China or Indonesia. And it is not going to change in the near future.


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: s31joemhar on September 10, 2017, 07:38:10 AM
If the government told so.. Or  a law will be created for those company to be exclusively for america..
But there will be a big problem.. Conpanies like this really looking for low wages of their people and as we all know america is one of the highest paid countrt in terms of employment.. In addition to this if this happen there will be a need in building properties and warehouses..  This will result to more urbanizations and more trees will be cut more like and waters will be polluted..
The ozone layer will be damage more.. And as we all know with the news before that america is one of the most damage layer in the world.. And many countries will end up more shortage at employment..


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Jerry_Hype on November 10, 2017, 03:20:27 AM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...

When China conquer the US


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: Kotone on November 10, 2017, 03:50:38 AM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...

I Think they would never be seeing it that way as for apple they see it as something that they should offer to other cou tries necause more countries means more money and more money means they keep the company going and they have bigger paychecks


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: spongegar on November 20, 2017, 11:07:09 PM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...
Donald Trump at one time during the election campaign last year that US companies should have their manufacturing factories in the US so that they could boost employments in the USA but that will be impossible due to the fact that they pay lower wages in these factories and they will be made to pay more in the US which in turn will make their products even more expensive.

If you really think that apple products are expensive now, imagine if it is wholely made in the US. It doesn't also boost employment since robots will be in play since phones need precision. I mean yeah they will employ about a dozen... But does it make a difference. Besides, if the products ate from the states and china then logistics would be more inexpensive


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: francis2 on November 20, 2017, 11:30:53 PM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...
You cannot fight basic economics, if companies can create products cheaper in a country then that is where they are going to create their products, the only way to avoid that is to cancel free trade and put high taxes to all imports but that is going to break all the economic systems of the world, so that is not possible.


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: J Gambler on November 21, 2017, 10:59:17 AM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...

I think that would be highly u likely just because that there are a lot of things goig on than just the bragging rights that it was made exclusively in china. THe labor in other cou tries are cheaper and they still careythe same brand and weight and that is a vig deal


Title: Re: When will apple products be made exclusively in america?
Post by: paxautelemanus on November 21, 2017, 11:00:47 AM
Made in america... or at least not in those authoritative so called countries...

When China conquer the US
US can conquer China, not China conquer US.