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Title: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 09, 2017, 07:58:49 AM
Hi

There is somebody who uses Asus mining RX 470 GPUs.I need some help.I can only control the fans.Driver Crimson beta,WIN10,MSI 4.3.0
Hynix memory and only 21,6 MH


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: bouldou on September 09, 2017, 09:09:09 AM
Install MSI Afterburner : you will be able to control your fan speed with this software

And you can start it with Windows to apply your own fan configuration

Enjoy  ;)


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 09, 2017, 09:21:13 AM
I use MSI aftb,i can only control fan speed,can not control mem ,core and pow  ???


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Undefined31415 on September 09, 2017, 09:37:15 AM
I use MSI aftb,i can only control fan speed,can not control mem ,core and pow  ???

Can you show us a screenshot of what Afterburner looks like to you?


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 09, 2017, 09:48:20 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B04mAQF5mv3AaXRVM2E2Q04wMDA/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 09, 2017, 09:55:38 AM
I use MSI aftb,i can only control fan speed,can not control mem ,core and pow  ???

Can you show us a screenshot of what Afterburner looks like to you?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B04mAQF5mv3ASnFKaTQ5NWszLXc/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Undefined31415 on September 09, 2017, 10:08:58 AM
Hmm, Afterburner seems to identify them as 570s. Is this normal for the mining-specific 470?

Have you tried switching to an older driver version?


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: trinaldao on September 09, 2017, 10:15:08 AM
Hi

There is somebody who uses Asus mining RX 470 GPUs.I need some help.I can only control the fans.Driver Crimson beta,WIN10,MSI 4.3.0
Hynix memory and only 21,6 MH
try moding bios for get performance and down voltase
I used saphire rx470 4gb can get 28mhs maybe asus can too if mod bios


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 09, 2017, 02:24:35 PM
Hmm, Afterburner seems to identify them as 570s. Is this normal for the mining-specific 470?

Have you tried switching to an older driver version?

Yes it's a little weird aftb sees GPUs like 570 and GPU-Z sees them like 570
17.7.2 gives the same like Crimsone Beta only fan control.
17.9.1 gives +pow and temp limit control

17.1 and older not does not work at all


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: bouldou on September 09, 2017, 02:30:48 PM
There is an option to activate in Afterburner, in order to modify core voltage... I don't remember where it is but it's quite easy to find

Otherwise you can try to change it in AMD Software

Try to follow those steps : http://www.cryptobadger.com/2017/04/build-ethereum-mining-rig-optimization/ (http://www.cryptobadger.com/2017/04/build-ethereum-mining-rig-optimization/)


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 10, 2017, 09:52:58 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B04mAQF5mv3AZXctbE5VT1drNkk/view?usp=sharing

After bios timing ethas 25 MH but equihas -40 sol.
Only driver which works 17.9.1


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: fatefate on September 10, 2017, 01:04:35 PM
i`m the [ROG STRIX-RX470-O4G-GAMING] user for mining

ETH mining in stable 27.x mh/s
i was do some simple BIOS mod and intalled AMD official blockchain beta driver

use WATTMAN truing (just WATTMAN,none of other VGA CARD truing softwares)

core:1150 memory:1930 pl:25%

for your information



Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 10, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
Never seen good results with ASUS. Their STRIX RX470's are very unstable when OCing memory over 1925 usually, while other (like MSI Gaming or Saphire) with same memory (Hynix) are Ok at 1950 and 1975 (same straps used, voltages etc).
Have no idea how to reach better perfomance with STRIX models and not loose stability. I tested about 6 or 7 STRIX and all have similar problems described above. For me STRIX are the worst mining cards


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: rodney2250 on September 10, 2017, 03:49:30 PM
One of my rigs is running 6x ASUS STRIX RX 470 4G w/Samsung memory. core clock at 1050 and met clock at 1925. Runs stables for weeks in a row at 27.2 Mh/s


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 10, 2017, 03:55:38 PM
Never seen good results with ASUS. Their STRIX RX470's are very unstable when OCing memory over 1925 usually, while other (like MSI Gaming or Saphire) with same memory (Hynix) are Ok at 1950 and 1975 (same straps used, voltages etc).
Have no idea how to reach better perfomance with STRIX models and not loose stability. I tested about 6 or 7 STRIX and all have similar problems described above. For me STRIX are the worst mining cards

yes it seems Asus GPUs not the best,I have 1070 Asus and Gigabyte both of them with Micron memory;Asus gives 440 sol/ 30 Mh,Gigabyte 480 sol  32Mh


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 13, 2017, 06:14:54 PM
One of my rigs is running 6x ASUS STRIX RX 470 4G w/Samsung memory. core clock at 1050 and met clock at 1925. Runs stables for weeks in a row at 27.2 Mh/s

Your case is a poor result, which just confirms ASUS cards are not quite good for mining.
You approved that ASUS could not work with Samsung, which is actually the best mem.
Normal RX470 with Samsung mem works stable at 1975-2000MHz clocking - I have MSI's and Saphire's rigs.


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: tinktonk on September 23, 2017, 11:21:34 AM
I have the same problem with ASUS, i tried to clock the memories to 1800 and even than the hashrate dropped a lot.....


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 23, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
I have the same problem with ASUS, i tried to clock the memories to 1800 and even than the hashrate dropped a lot.....

Did you modify BIOS or not? I mean changing the time straps for the memory timings. If you didn't, the result is predictable. What memory you ASUS equipped with?


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: tinktonk on September 23, 2017, 09:17:50 PM
Yes I modded the BIOS. This is my current configuration https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8J54NDM1ImqODc5UUlkUDVwNEk/view?usp=sharing


I copied the 1500Mhz timing to the 1625,1750 and 2000 timing. That improved the etherium mining from 21 to 24.7MH. I tried to clock the memories in GPU Tweak 2 but that didnt go well hashrate down to 20MH again. Do I need to raise TDP/TDC? Are they to low?


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 24, 2017, 10:10:27 AM
Yes I modded the BIOS. This is my current configuration https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8J54NDM1ImqODc5UUlkUDVwNEk/view?usp=sharing
I copied the 1500Mhz timing to the 1625,1750 and 2000 timing. That improved the etherium mining from 21 to 24.7MH. I tried to clock the memories in GPU Tweak 2 but that didnt go well hashrate down to 20MH again. Do I need to raise TDP/TDC? Are they to low?

1) Try to  set memclock to 1900-1925, ASUS with Hynix performs well with these settings usually
2) Do you use "blockchain" drivers? What version is installed in system?


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Vetevana on September 24, 2017, 12:33:26 PM
Yes I modded the BIOS. This is my current configuration https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8J54NDM1ImqODc5UUlkUDVwNEk/view?usp=sharing
I copied the 1500Mhz timing to the 1625,1750 and 2000 timing. That improved the etherium mining from 21 to 24.7MH. I tried to clock the memories in GPU Tweak 2 but that didnt go well hashrate down to 20MH again. Do I need to raise TDP/TDC? Are they to low?

1) Try to  set memclock to 1900-1925, ASUS with Hynix performs well with these settings usually
2) Do you use "blockchain" drivers? What version is installed in system?

works for my,memclock was 2000 i set 1925 ,now i hawe at 5 GPUs  132 Mh earlier 128 Mh with Music


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: amktt on September 24, 2017, 02:20:02 PM
Yes I modded the BIOS. This is my current configuration https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8J54NDM1ImqODc5UUlkUDVwNEk/view?usp=sharing


I copied the 1500Mhz timing to the 1625,1750 and 2000 timing. That improved the etherium mining from 21 to 24.7MH. I tried to clock the memories in GPU Tweak 2 but that didnt go well hashrate down to 20MH again. Do I need to raise TDP/TDC? Are they to low?

listen to this guy OP


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: tinktonk on September 25, 2017, 05:15:05 PM
Yes I modded the BIOS. This is my current configuration https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8J54NDM1ImqODc5UUlkUDVwNEk/view?usp=sharing
I copied the 1500Mhz timing to the 1625,1750 and 2000 timing. That improved the etherium mining from 21 to 24.7MH. I tried to clock the memories in GPU Tweak 2 but that didnt go well hashrate down to 20MH again. Do I need to raise TDP/TDC? Are they to low?

1) Try to  set memclock to 1900-1925, ASUS with Hynix performs well with these settings usually
2) Do you use "blockchain" drivers? What version is installed in system?

works for my,memclock was 2000 i set 1925 ,now i hawe at 5 GPUs  132 Mh earlier 128 Mh with Music

1) I shall try that, what TDP/TDC are you running at?
2) Yes im using the blockchain drivers. I got the best performance with them. From 21->23

Thanks for the help


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 25, 2017, 06:09:34 PM
Yes I modded the BIOS. This is my current configuration https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8J54NDM1ImqODc5UUlkUDVwNEk/view?usp=sharing
I copied the 1500Mhz timing to the 1625,1750 and 2000 timing. That improved the etherium mining from 21 to 24.7MH. I tried to clock the memories in GPU Tweak 2 but that didnt go well hashrate down to 20MH again. Do I need to raise TDP/TDC? Are they to low?

1) Try to  set memclock to 1900-1925, ASUS with Hynix performs well with these settings usually
2) Do you use "blockchain" drivers? What version is installed in system?

works for my,memclock was 2000 i set 1925 ,now i hawe at 5 GPUs  132 Mh earlier 128 Mh with Music

1) I shall try that, what TDP/TDC are you running at?
2) Yes im using the blockchain drivers. I got the best performance with them. From 21->23

Thanks for the help

I didn't modify any TDP/TDC settings if we talking about BIOS. My BIOSes for STRIX cards have only straps changed as well as changed GPU clocks and voltages for them - static vs iriginal "incrementals")
All of my ASUSes work stable in 1900-1950 mem clockings but some of them require more voltage (911 or 923mV)


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Noburesu on September 26, 2017, 05:08:03 PM
Hello guys,

This card was troublesome for me too at the begining. It just wouldnt mine better when I oc it.
But I menaged to troubleshoot it and rise eth mining from 21 to 26.

I am talking about https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/ this card if the post is about it.

I aplied standard strap mod on card bios - from 1500 to 2000 and patched ati dag fixer.

Later the important thing is to make power limit bigger, on afterburner I set it on +40. If you dont set it the card will underclock itself alone.

You must use afterburner 440 beta 16 for some drivers to make OC work.

Other OC setting are Core Voltage - 30; Core Clock 1260; Memory clock 1970.

Lower or rise core or mem clock if your card is unstable to make it stable.


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 26, 2017, 06:20:38 PM
This card was troublesome for me too at the begining. It just wouldnt mine better when I oc it.
But I menaged to troubleshoot it and rise eth mining from 21 to 26.

I am talking about https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/ this card if the post is about it.

Please, when you mention the card model, tell also what memory it equipped. For example ASUS 470 STRIX normally could be with Hynix (most often) or Elpida memory onboard, but I have a friend with Samsung (which is extremely rare for ASUS 470's)
As well your GPU clocking is too high for ETH mining IMHO. My 470 STRIXes with Hynix doing 27Mh at gpu 1080 and 1925 mem settings.


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: tinktonk on September 26, 2017, 09:43:18 PM
This card was troublesome for me too at the begining. It just wouldnt mine better when I oc it.
But I menaged to troubleshoot it and rise eth mining from 21 to 26.

I am talking about https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/ this card if the post is about it.

Please, when you mention the card model, tell also what memory it equipped. For example ASUS 470 STRIX normally could be with Hynix (most often) or Elpida memory onboard, but I have a friend with Samsung (which is extremely rare for ASUS 470's)
As well your GPU clocking is too high for ETH mining IMHO. My 470 STRIXes with Hynix doing 27Mh at gpu 1080 and 1925 mem settings.



I have tried to OC the memories but it has no effect. Im using the latest claymore miner v.10. It lokks somehow the afterburner has no effect when I try to overclock the memories... Its so weird. Its like the cards are running in some auto mode. I even tried to overclock the memories to 2250 but still it ran at almost 25MH...


What miners are you using for etherium mining?

One thing i noticed the GPU is running on 1020Mhz even if I have it clocked to 1200Mhz in afterburner. Does these cards have any kind of auto mode :)


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Noburesu on September 27, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
This card was troublesome for me too at the begining. It just wouldnt mine better when I oc it.
But I menaged to troubleshoot it and rise eth mining from 21 to 26.

I am talking about https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/ this card if the post is about it.

Please, when you mention the card model, tell also what memory it equipped. For example ASUS 470 STRIX normally could be with Hynix (most often) or Elpida memory onboard, but I have a friend with Samsung (which is extremely rare for ASUS 470's)
As well your GPU clocking is too high for ETH mining IMHO. My 470 STRIXes with Hynix doing 27Mh at gpu 1080 and 1925 mem settings.



I have tried to OC the memories but it has no effect. Im using the latest claymore miner v.10. It lokks somehow the afterburner has no effect when I try to overclock the memories... Its so weird. Its like the cards are running in some auto mode. I even tried to overclock the memories to 2250 but still it ran at almost 25MH...


What miners are you using for etherium mining?

One thing i noticed the GPU is running on 1020Mhz even if I have it clocked to 1200Mhz in afterburner. Does these cards have any kind of auto mode :)


Those cards has Hynix memory.
About GPU clock, the mining hashrate for ETH on those cards are very dependable from GPU clock. If I set it to 1100 on example it will mine 24.5 mhs, and they can go up to 26.8 on 1290 (but not stable because of high clock for them).


When you OC cards on Afterburner you must rise power limit, rise it to max and dont worry. When you set GPU clock 1200 but power limit is 0 your card will go 1020 mhz, but if you make Power limit at max, the card will go at 1200 Mhz.
Btw dont rise mem clock so much


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 27, 2017, 03:13:23 PM
Those cards has Hynix memory.
About GPU clock, the mining hashrate for ETH on those cards are very dependable from GPU clock. If I set it to 1100 on example it will mine 24.5 mhs, and they can go up to 26.8 on 1290 (but not stable because of high clock for them).


When you OC cards on Afterburner you must rise power limit, rise it to max and dont worry. When you set GPU clock 1200 but power limit is 0 your card will go 1020 mhz, but if you make Power limit at max, the card will go at 1200 Mhz.
Btw dont rise mem clock so much

Sounds very strange, really, I never met such problems as well as solution you offer. Could it be badly designed VRM or so cheaper manufacturing? I am not too familair with cards design.
Are you using Claymore miner?


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Noburesu on September 27, 2017, 05:16:58 PM
Those cards has Hynix memory.
About GPU clock, the mining hashrate for ETH on those cards are very dependable from GPU clock. If I set it to 1100 on example it will mine 24.5 mhs, and they can go up to 26.8 on 1290 (but not stable because of high clock for them).


When you OC cards on Afterburner you must rise power limit, rise it to max and dont worry. When you set GPU clock 1200 but power limit is 0 your card will go 1020 mhz, but if you make Power limit at max, the card will go at 1200 Mhz.
Btw dont rise mem clock so much

Sounds very strange, really, I never met such problems as well as solution you offer. Could it be badly designed VRM or so cheaper manufacturing? I am not too familair with cards design.
Are you using Claymore miner?

Yes I am using Claymore miner.
Yes it is cheaper manufacturing I think. The card use some parts from 470 some from 570. The drivers recognize them as rx 570. Maybe the chip is from 570 but vram from 470. I have few friends with same cards and the same problem they had.
We menaged to make speed a little beter ( 26 mhs ) but it is not power eficient, the sensor shows about 115w (out of wall is more).
Strange is that the cards are marked as MINING but cant mine stable beyond 26-26.6


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 27, 2017, 06:28:51 PM
Well, it proves again ASUS makes cheap junk, which is not good for mining. A year ago or a bit less there were a lot of ASUS cards sales from Amazon Warehouse in "used like new condition". I guess these cards were probably returned by miners who checked them, returned and ordered another ones. BTW another junk IMHO are PowerColor and some XFX cards. The best ones are still MSI and Saphires.


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: tinktonk on September 30, 2017, 07:52:00 AM
Finally I got an setup that worked.

1. Running AMD Blockchain driver
2. Running afterburner 4.4.0 Beta 16 (raised hashrate with 20->23MH)
3. Modded Bios strapped 1500 to 2000Mhz
4. Needed to raise Pow Eth mining in afterburner to about 8% otherwise GPU was restricted to 1000Mhz
5. After raising powerlimit i got the best mining speed @ about 1070Mhz not worth an Eth goin to 1200Mhz
6. clocked the memory on the whole rig to 1958Mhz. Completly stable. Looks like I can go further with memory but its getting close to unstable.
This resulted in stablr 27MH on all cards. doin about 161MH/s on 6 cards and in techgpu its abou 89W/ card. what do you think about that guys?

Next I will try to calculate the maximum hashrate vs power consumption(price). I think there are more to optimize. Would be great with an automatic GPU tweaker that could go down card level and test drive all parameters without to have do it manually. Do you no about any tool that could do testruns automatically?


Thanks all for the help Kukus, vetevana, noburesu. Great to share thoughts with you, much easier for a beginner on GPU clocking to get some ideas from to trim everything. Ill continue to share my findings with you if I come up to something.

Yes one more thing I also tried this thing with monero but there I needed to raise the power limit to about +11% in afterburner and the GPU to about 1250Mhz@85W. Than I got 4200H/s.

and im running claymores miners in all cases.


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on September 30, 2017, 11:21:30 AM

Thanks all for the help Kukus, vetevana, noburesu. Great to share thoughts with you, much easier for a beginner on GPU clocking to get some ideas from to trim everything. Ill continue to share my findings with you if I come up to something.


You are welcome. You can also try to mod in BIOS (TDC and Max power limit) in this case. Most cards have TDC about 110-115A and Power limit at 115-125, while as I noted, your ASUS cards have about 85 and 95 settings there respectively.
As to me, I prefer to use miner settings in Claymore to change it. I guess 27Mh/s is good for ASUS, i never reach over 27,5 with them



Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Niyazi Saral on October 27, 2017, 08:09:36 PM
We as Cizgi Elektronik are the distributor of Asus in Turkey for the last 26 years.

Here is the table for Asus Mining RX470-4G OC settings, performance for single Mining and Daul Mining. The mod file (.ROM) also listed here.

http://transfer.cizgitagem.org/nsaral/asus_mining_rx470/per1.jpg

http://transfer.cizgitagem.org/nsaral/asus_mining_rx470/


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: percy_tc on October 27, 2017, 08:38:49 PM
These power consuptions would be nice, but unfortunatelly there is also VRM, which uses another "bunch" of power.


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: Kukus on November 01, 2017, 07:32:26 PM
We as Cizgi Elektronik are the distributor of Asus in Turkey for the last 26 years.
Here is the table for Asus Mining RX470-4G OC settings, performance for single Mining and Daul Mining. The mod file (.ROM) also listed here.
http://transfer.cizgitagem.org/nsaral/asus_mining_rx470/per1.jpg

Your settings say "100%" power limit. Claymore's -powlim settings are -50 to 50. So what do you mean by that?


Title: Re: Asus mining RX 470 GPU
Post by: genai on November 24, 2017, 11:18:16 AM
I did one click straps (polaris bios editor 1.6.3), TDP 115, max power limig 120 for bios.
And then in miner i do -mclock 1950 -cclock 1150 -mvddc 950 -cvddc 950

I get stable 27.3 per card in 6 card rig (more than 3 days now without restart or anything) with a total of 800w from the wall. I could probably go lower with those voltages too, as ive seen some those with 900 for both voltages. Its quite decent

If i wanted to optimize even more i could as i managed to go over 28 on all except 1 card (main one whose riser goes in pcie16 slot and stalls opencl) with a bit higher memory(going -mclock 1950,1975,1975,1975,1975,1975 for example). But didnt want to bother.