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Economy => Marketplace => Topic started by: Elokane on June 23, 2011, 09:54:36 PM



Title: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: Elokane on June 23, 2011, 09:54:36 PM
A place for pyramid games and other lotteries?


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: cschmitz on June 23, 2011, 10:26:38 PM
A place for pyramid games and other lotteries?


Its a good representation of the "get rich quick have no clue" internet trash that seems to be common these days. Moderation is not popular around here hence you get a shitload of the bitcoin equivalent of farmvilles.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: WiseOldOwl on June 23, 2011, 10:28:31 PM
I agree this sux,
Im voluntarily pulling the pyramid game "advertising", if someone posts i cant stop that though.
The dice game I wont bump anymore either but it is around to stay because its fun for sure.
Maybe dedicate a new section of the forum to games or something mods.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: nhodges on June 23, 2011, 10:30:46 PM
As a partially responsible party, I definitely concur there should be a dedicated area of the forum for games/gambling


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: beyond on June 23, 2011, 10:36:36 PM
I agree as well, and agree we should all stop bumping the threads.



Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: FreeMoney on June 23, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
As a partially responsible party, I definitely concur there should be a dedicated area of the forum for games/gambling

+1 dedicated forum


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: RevolutionMaster on June 23, 2011, 10:37:58 PM
As a partially responsible party, I definitely concur there should be a dedicated area of the forum for games/gambling

+1 dedicated forum


+1, especially when things get bigger.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: nhodges on June 23, 2011, 10:42:11 PM
Posted in Meta: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=21679.0


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: dank on June 23, 2011, 10:47:16 PM
They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: lilika on June 23, 2011, 10:49:20 PM
As a partially responsible party, I definitely concur there should be a dedicated area of the forum for games/gambling

+1 dedicated forum


+1, especially when things get bigger.


I agree, I think it's ok to have pyramids, games, whatever, but in a separate forum (a child of Marketplace maybe...)


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: BtcNmcMiner on June 23, 2011, 11:54:42 PM
Sorry guys, I bumped my Baccarat game before I saw this, I won't do that anymore other than replying to posts. I have already ended my pyramid game and tagged it [closed] I am defiantly in support of a sub-forum for games.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: ZareliMan on June 24, 2011, 12:06:46 AM
They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.

How can something be a scam when the rules are described ? And it works like rules describe it ?

However I'm +1 for the Gaming/gambilng forum.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: dank on June 24, 2011, 12:38:22 AM
They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.

How can something be a scam when the rules are described ? And it works like rules describe it ?

However I'm +1 for the Gaming/gambilng forum.
Some people don't know how to follow their own rules *cough, NothinG*


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: Tawsix on June 24, 2011, 12:45:17 AM
Yeah there was a post about this in meta, it would really be nice to not have to wade through the twenty different PENTA TROUBLE and x 20 PROFIT threads...


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: MasonIII on June 24, 2011, 12:46:18 AM
A place for pyramid games and other lotteries?


+1 for sure.  I totally agree with what you feel about this forum.  I feel that there is a place for all of these pyramid and lottery games though in bitcoin.  Its fun and it gives people entertainment/ways to spend-earn BTC.  However, these should be placed in a subforum so that its manageable for people who aren't interested.  Also, to the OP, it seems as if your question has seen a great response as most of the games have stopped either totally or have stopped being bumped.  Personally I have held off on my lightning rounds until a subforum is made to prevent spammage (if thats a word).  Thanks for bringing it to our attention


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: nhodges on June 24, 2011, 12:48:44 AM
It also gives people in the US a way to gamble semi-legally, since it's not an official "currency"


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: Elokane on June 24, 2011, 05:55:50 AM
I'm very happy to see the immediate positive response! Rock on guys.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: tysat on June 24, 2011, 12:14:39 PM
I feel responsible for every single 'double trouble' type thread in here.... I started one back up about a week ago because the guy who did it originally had left.  Every time I look at this subforum I feel like I've created a monster.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: anodyne on June 24, 2011, 12:42:04 PM
I was thinking of a "lounge" type board on the main section. There's already the off-topic forum, but that should be reserved for threads with discussion value, so the lounge would be for things with less substance like various games and threads with pictures of kittens and other things that tend to pop up on all forums on the net.

Edit: Maybe a child board to Off-topic would be better than a whole new board.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: phungus on June 24, 2011, 01:53:51 PM

This is better than Vegas or online casinos. :-)



Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: adalov on June 24, 2011, 02:10:33 PM
I enjoy the Ponzi schemes and other games available, plus they generate good interest in Bitcoin. They create a use for the currency beyond the few businesses that accept BTC. That being said, I agree 100% with creating a separate section for these as it can be difficult to find non-game threads in this board.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: Jimerson on June 24, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
+1 A seperate section would make wading through the marketplace much easier.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: tysat on June 24, 2011, 02:19:13 PM
+1 A seperate section would make wading through the marketplace much easier.

Check out this thread (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19918.0) I created a few days ago.  Might be able to get one created if enough interest is shown in it.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: Serge on June 24, 2011, 03:24:09 PM
Cyber Wild Wild West =)

I would play poker tho

and +1 to keep this forum clean


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: Oldminer on June 24, 2011, 03:31:32 PM

+1 dedicated forum


^^

Seems no-ones listening tho :(


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: foggyb on June 24, 2011, 04:12:16 PM
They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.

People know that casinos (online or B&M) will almost always win in the end, but they still go there to gamble.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: RevolutionMaster on June 24, 2011, 09:47:38 PM
They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.

People know that casinos (online or B&M) will almost always win in the end, but they still go there to gamble.
Not only this, but in the ponzi scheme system, the operator has little to no incentive to collapse the pyramid, and in most cases, it benefits them to make sure that it goes for as long as possible. My pool has had something like 84% of the people this round get paid back.

In the ponzi-scheme system, it's not operator vs. the users, which makes things different from a traditional casino game.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: btcLottery on June 24, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
I 100% agree with a gambling/lottery section.  I myself have learned some etiquette and now reuse older posts instead of creating new ones.  I can imagine as a non-gambling bitcoin business having to wade through tons of gambling posts would be annoying.  But yes, bring on the gambling section!


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: hawks5999 on June 24, 2011, 11:08:28 PM
I agree with a separate section. Though it's possible they would die out when the operators see what little money there is to be had in operating them.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: btcLottery on June 24, 2011, 11:31:34 PM
I agree with a separate section. Though it's possible they would die out when the operators see what little money there is to be had in operating them.

This is true, you have to want to do this.  Because I can attest, the money that I personally make is pennies.  I just like *doing* it.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: nhodges on June 25, 2011, 01:10:24 AM
I agree with a separate section. Though it's possible they would die out when the operators see what little money there is to be had in operating them.

This is true, you have to want to do this.  Because I can attest, the money that I personally make is pennies.  I just like *doing* it.

Most people that have taken to operating pools (esp the low fee ones) are doing it simply to move Bitcoins around. High fee or high payouts where bets stagnate by a person who made a 10BTC deposit and is waiting for a payout of 15BTC, allowing the operator (scammer, imo, in this case) to receive up to 4 BTC for free.


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: Delicious on June 25, 2011, 01:30:14 AM
Dedicated section would be welcome.  I don't resent the number of games popping up though.  If you're smart about it, they are great way to increase your early mining rewards.  It will increase BTC usage and I think gambling will be a primary component of BTC popularity going from niche to mainstream. 


Title: Re: Is this what this forum has become?
Post by: hawks5999 on June 25, 2011, 03:07:02 AM
...High fee or high payouts where bets stagnate by a person who made a 10BTC deposit and is waiting for a payout of 15BTC, allowing the operator (scammer, imo, in this case) to receive up to 4 BTC for free.

There is no free for an operator. Either you coded an automatic game (which has value) or you run it manually. Running it manually is TIME CONSUMING. I ran a specifically targeted high-roller game and if I compare the BTC I walked away with to the time I spent managing the game I'm well under minimum wage. Heck, I'm under minimum wage of 20 years ago. BTCLottery is right - you have to want to offer the games which is why I ran exactly ONE game and won't operate another.