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Can Bitcoin Prices Reach $5,000 Again Without China?  ::) ???

sure, why not?

Heck, it can even reach $100 WITH China.

just play the market, wherever it goes.

Why do have doubts? China doesnt control bitcoins price.It might give an effect to its price but it doesnt mean that it has the power to block or stop on the price of bitcoin to go up. Even without them we would hit up again that ATH for sure but this thing is still unknown on when it would happen but for now we should just ride on the price as the guy said above too. Just play with the market and dont mind on those price increase :D

I dont know, but we can see the movement on the market. what happens next day I dont know. if I could know for sure I might have become very rich. but all of that is a prediction, I believe the bitcoin will rise again, even more like as you mentioned. but I dont know when. because I am investing and still waiting for that increase to happen.

It will take a lot of adjustments and maybe a long bear run but I am sure bitcoin can push forward even without the Chinese miners, traders and investors. There are a lot of bitcoiners coming from different countries around the world. They can cover the hole the Chinese will leave if ever this happens and soon it will back to road to 5K again.

The price of bitcoin fell dramatically upon the news. Just over a week after bitcoin hit a fresh all-time high of nearly $5,000, the two bits of news from China have prompted a two-stage wave of price declines. The first was part of a larger, industry-wide plunge that saw many cryptocurrencies falling by 20% or more in the span of just a day. Many currencies regained substantial portions of those losses by this past weekend, only to find that the bitcoin ban caused prices to drop early in the new week.

Even with all the bad news which came from China BTC is now again testing 4000$ level and bottom price is just under 3000$ for short time.It is good that China is trying to regulate ICO and exchanges and I wish they will succeed so in the future we can avoid such situations.

There is many speculation regarding BTC price,but considering that we have upcoming hard fork I will be happy if BTC price reach 5000$ by the end of this year and to remain stable.

after rumors china bitcoin becomes stable again. proved to be a quieter market now. and another great bitcoin has increased for the sake of rising. it is true now the value has not happened at 5000 $. but where that day will happen again. let's look at development for the sake of development, because bitcoin can survive even without china.

Bitcoin Cash will but BTC (segwitcoin) has hit its peak and will head close to $0 over time now.

Sure .Bitcoin never use only china .Its already use all  over world ..You alredy see Bitcoin price rise 3000$ to 4100.So Just wait for Few month it will be raised 5000$.China only ban ico  there country.Bitcoin rise without china we already see proof.

i think we can reach $5,000 again soon but we don't know when the price is increase because after the bad news, many people is trying to test what will going on with bitcoin but i am sure that people will realize that bitcoin is really worth to them. after so many testing for bitcoin, bitcoin itself become more famous and i am sure after china giving statement to banning bitcoin, people will be open their eyes and they will learn about bitcoin and will be curious.

Correct, what you said, no one can say who is controlling bitcoin, it is users who are panicking and selling it on fake news, without knowing properly what is the news they just panic and sell it. But real traders never panic and just buy on lows and sell on high.

Yes, but the question in when  :D, I hope soon, and the price rise $6,000 or more in January.  ;)

Has China really caught the light with a wedge? I think that the Crypto-currency will exist without China, so that it would not be worth it. We just need to restructure our views and the whole process, and then we will again have the price that we have already seen. Bitcoin has a huge potential and it is implemented even without China, with the help of Japan.

No doubt, with Bitcoin popularity nowadays, it was easy to achieve 5000 USD again and don't be too surprised when Bitcoin exceed that price.

I personally think that China ban is just a small obstacle in bitcoin's way to the top. Like any other scuccessful industries or currencys, bitcoin will have people trying to break it down but i don't think that they will suceed. Bitcoin is now the new era of cryptocuurency in the world and it will continue growing after healing from this ban.

Very soon.As you can see its correction to 4100 in no time after the effect of China.It has huge potential.It reaches 5500 in the first week of October, I think.
Bitcoin is used widely all over the world.China may influence the price for some time by creating some uncertainty in the minds of buyers but it cannot continue it.Bitcoin is decentralized so no country has power to completely ban it.

very likely and even could exceed $ 5000 because bitcoin is not just china, we see all what will happen in the next few days what happened with bitcoin.

Why not? China banned the bitcoin, But maybe another country will take the place of China. Maybe it will Japan, USA or Uk. So we will see in the future who will it. But I am sure that btc will reach 5000$ without china but it will need time.

Who the hell cares what China does ? All they do is mine and sell us none existing miners to gullible people ;)
Let them do their own thing let's forget them and focus on the future. We leave those none believing heathens in the dust. I have 0 doubt btc will hit 5k soon. As much as I breath I know.

Make one thing clear, China or any other country cannot control bitcoin price now nor in future.It is the demand and supply all over the world that rules the price, If china is not interested in Bitcoin then it doesn't mean the prices of bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency needs to come down. You just need to trade the Bitcoin wherever it goes, it goes up or it goes down no one can control it but you can follow it and get tons of profits i you trade it right.
I am sorry but i request you to create a value in every thread you post.

Obviously, price can even get to over $10k without all those chinese fuders and whales.

Crypto market have been dumped and pumped by them many times in past and its just enough for us, when more traders will join from around the world. Price volatility of bitcoin will be decreased which will have positive effect on price.

If they think they hurting btc with their feeble attempts to control what cannot be controlled then they very much mistaken and we shall show them.

I can easily say that I is very hard that  bitcoin prices can reach 5.000 dollars without China but I think Bitcoin prices will increase slowly until november and These prices will go beyond 5.000 dollars for sure.

of course it could be, there are many more great countries that support cryptocurrency, it all depends on investors from several countries

Last time why the price suddenly dropped means it is not because of China govt decision, after listening to the news all panic people started to sell their coins so suddenly the demand comes down and supply increased, so the price dropped. If people will not get panic and just hold their coins nothing will happen.

I think china is not the only country that have huge number of bitcoin holders or investors. There are still countries that support bitcoin like china and ready to invest bitcoin like they did. If the investors increase then the price also increase and this is all we need to make the price goes higher until it reaches $5000. The number of investors are just one of the factors and there are still factors that could make the bitcoin price high.

why not?? it will be 7000$ end of this year.just wait and watch

I think it's still very possible, because as we know bitcoin is already very popular.
So the number of investors will continue to increase even without China, just keep calm.. Bitcoin prices will continue to rise.
But for now it still takes some time to stabilize the price of bitcoin.

Of course yes. No doubt, China have big players and they can started a trend due to big volume on their exchanges but it doesn't mean they control all things that may happen to bitcoin price. Aside from that, bitcoin is well distributed now so even China will be out of the game, there are remaining nations who can also have bring impact on bitcoin price.

Think positive mate as we have reasons to act like that. :)

The possibility is there Bitcoin can reach $5000 because the success of Bitcoin doesn't depend on China. China is only one country who bans bitcoin and Bitcoin is circulating around the world and lots of progressive country do invest as well in bitcoin.

Yes it is. Today its price already $4000!

I think it can reach more than 10.000 without china and maybe much higher. I also think that china can not ban it forever.

China is not the be-all-end-all of Bitcoin or crypto. Sure, they have money and tat money is currently not being invested which is why we are seeing a slight drop in the price, but at the end of the day the price is so high now that no single factor can influence it that much (except if the US government were to outright ban it, it would be devastating).

definitely, bitcoin is indepent of China or any other nation. It will reach even more.

But how can you be sure of that ?

We proved the world wrong by bouncing back from 3000$ to 4000$ in a matter of hours. I don't know when we will hit 5k again but we will eventually. I still hold onto my theory that China caused FUD and bought up a lot of bitcoin when it was low. That's why we saw such a good bounce back.

this is what a lot of people worried about . they afraid that without the most bitcoin miner like china the market could crashed to the lowest. and the reality now says different way , it's still survive stable on the previous price when china exchanges, miners etc still onfire. i can't see the big difference here. bitcoin used by a lot of people from different places and that's more powerful rather than china alone.

Pretty sure it will.. I mean it sure does looks like..

Most likely, yeah. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency as a market is still uncharted by most standards, it's not obscure or anything, but it's not on the same level as normal currencies, so spastic rises in the exchange rate will continue and prices above the sum you mentioned are inevitable.

For sure it can, Bitcoin community is increasing every day. Look, a good part of the China's community is moving to Japan to operate from there. Also, there are some rumors that China may remove the ban after regulation. Let's see what happens.

Sure it can, with the increasing bitcoin's popularity we will manage to get $5000 without china, but the process will be longer, but we are depending on china to get that number, with more implementation in shop and more country willing to accept bitcoin, I am sure bitcoin will reach it

First of all with or without china bitcoin prices may go both ways low or high. Secondly yes there are lots more countries which seem to have been supportive of bitcoin and there are more people in those countries who are interested in bitcoin and buying it so China isn't the only country which can influence bitcoin prices adversely or favorably. Bitcoin will reach 5k mark soon and the poor Chinese people will be feeling deprived.

Of course bitcoin can reach $5,000 even without China. Do you even think that China is the only major player in the market? Think about Japan, South Korea and other countries that are now progressive and adopting bitcoin. And we can even reach higher price without them because of the adoption that's about to happen from other countries as well. Once there are big companies started to show their interest in bitcoin, it will increase suddenly.

After previous bubble pops we saw even stronger bounces, like 62% and 70%. Here, we only retraced 50% of the move down from $5000. I'm hopeful that we will form a base to rally from now.

But don't you think it's possible that this was just a dead cat bounce? That could still be the case even if we push up to $4200+. I see that Masterluc is bearish for the first time in a long time, which makes me nervous.

Yes. Bitcoin will continue to go higher up in value. With more countries joining the bandwagon it has to go up. Personally I think China will draft a fresh policy to allow Bitcoin trading in the future and will try to regulate it.

I'm optimistic with bitcoin progress even without China, because with the popularity of bitcoin nowadays it certainly can attract investors from various countries to contribute to bitcoin, even with the presence of Japan that has opened the market for crypto trading, of course, It gives new hope for the growth of bitcoin in efforts to improve its progress, and it seems that before the beginning of 2018 bitcoin prices could reach $ 5000 even without the crypto trade in China.

I tottaly agree it will need time and i hope that it reach 5000$ before the and of 2k17

Of course it could, we know that China has a big impact in one's economy especially in cryptocommuninty since they are  the most populated country the world meaning there's a high percentage that most of them are came from that country. However, bitcoin could still reach that amount in the help of our support.

Yes of course it can reach price of 5000 dollars with out China. I mean China had one of largest miners in the world, but since the ban... well people will look for alternative places where they could mine bitcoin. I have reed that some of China miners are moving to Hong Kong. Bitcoin can survive anything and achieve more than people think, with or without China bitcoin will continue to grow.

yes definitely we don't need china in order to reach that price again. Just wait till the demand of bitcoin raise again then you will see that the price of bitcoin is floating again like a bubble. even though china cause a big dump this past few weeks. we can tell that it's because of the panic selling but after awhile bitcoin recover again and now sticking at $3900 price not bad at all.

Upto My knowledge, bitcoin is not banned in China. Many trading are done in China for the past few days. Which shows bitcoin is not banned in China. Even If China banned the bitcoin means. Bitcoin will solely reach the peak of 5000$.I think at this month end bitcoin will reach that value.

I have the believe that we will get to $5000 again, we got there with Chinese being in board but they are going, I believe we will still get there it might only be slower if they had to be still involved. The timing at this point is what matters and everyday we see that bitcoin is not down yet, its a one step closer to achieving such landmark.

A big yes!

China might a big player in cryptocurrency market, but it is not the only player. China did accept Bitcoin readily and before many countries and was able to have a dominance in mining part. But that doesn't means that all the future investors are only from China. Get out of China, there are lots of potential investors out there who can easily take the price to $10k soon. $5k isn't a big deal. India with the largest number of internet users have only started investing, there is a huge potential market there.

Yes, bitcoin price is still can reach $5,000 or above without China.
Bitcoin price isn't depend on China. There are many countries have used bitcoin.
It is used not only in China. Just wait and see how the progress of bitcoin any time.

If China would really abandon bitcoin, bitcoin could be hurt very badly, making it impossible to reach 5000$ again.

But they will not :)

With or without china, bitcoin very easy to swing even to cross $5K. Bitcoin is much more popular as an investment or speculative option. Many people are aware of enormous potential that can be utilized from bitcoin for good economy.

On behalf of your quote my answer YES!! I'm thinking we may see $5000 BTC or more in the next 6-8 weeks. Don't panic, keep holding! Gotta wait till November for the market to pick up. Anyway: take advantage this pump and dump, earned from it easily.

Actually, China is not the only place that can make the price dip because frankly speaking we can't deny the facts that most of the Whales are from China that manipulate the fluctuation of the price. You can't change the fact too, that China is not the only place that bitcoin fluctuation might occur, there we got some Whales from Japan, Russia, USA more countries will be joining the bandwagon.

with china or not i do believe bitcoin can reach even more than $5000 and from now on the price has been recovered above $3500 and slowly but sure eventually the price will hit again to $5000 or higher

I think its really possible since we have rebounded already. One thing though is that China still dominates the bitcoin mining sector so if the government once again try to shut it down the price will be affected. So getting to $5000 might take us some time. But barring that circumstance, we can get to $5000, it just a matter of time. For me though, this is the price of bitcoin without most of the dominant whalers from China and with the current price, we needed at least 20% to get to $5000. Can Japan, US South Korea cover it?

Look at how bitcoin rise from 3000 to 4000 in some day. For me this means bitcoin's price can be fallen or risen in just 2-3 days with little panic and unexpected announcements. Price can be more than 5000$ even tomorrow if someone (group or big exchangers) want because if it rise from 3000 to 4000 in 2-3 day, why didn't it rise to 5000 and 6000? Seems someone don't wants it and in someone I mean BIG Players.

Bitcoin definitely will be come at $5000. If china here or not here but bitcoin sure will be come at $5000, If China will stay with bitcoin then in this year we n will see bitcoin at $5000 but if without china, bitcoin take time to come at $5000. So let see what is time deciding for us but hopefully bitcoin will be going up, because bitcoin already have a big price.

of course without china, trader miner and investor can bring bitcoin increase high price and many other country still use bitcoin so bitcoin as well without china

I am certain that this will be going to have bright future and price at $5000 will be still possible to happen. Although the situation isn't that stable of it's price but I believe that we don't only relying at china, because there were many populations of other country that also invested with bitcoin and they're getting larger with demands.

Even without china , even china ban bitcoin exchange in their cointry for sure they bitcoin price will reach again 5k dollars because many people again buy bitcoin so the price will continue to increase again and for sure this month possible become 5k dollars or maybe next month . Lets support bitcoin by simple way you can buy bitcoin as of now simple help big result. Everyone will benefits once bitcoin become 5k dollars.

We will reach $5000 again without china but the correct sentence if we will reach $5000 again with the chinese, That was definitely true caused by the massive migration by the chinese traders into the western or canadian exchange or even south korean exchange site.

Why do you think that without China bitcoin will become weaker? China's only territory. The Chinese will never give up the income associated with the use of bitcoin. They just need time to get around the prohibitions of the government.

why do people are so much damn concerned about the effect of china for the price of bitcoin? as many of here says, bitcoin price do not depend on china. it does not control bitcoin. it is only "PART" of the ecosystem. so of course, bitcoin can still soar without china.

I hope so, and besides, there's a possibility. Indeed, China is a major loss for cryptocurrency including Bitcoin because it is one of the biggest crypto investors. But seeing how Bitcoin slowly making its way back to top, and knowing that it again reached the 4000$ mark, it is possiblr that it will reach the 5k dollar mark before this year end since there'll be a hardfork in the month of November, and if that would be successful, for sure, Bitcoin will then again go skyrocket next year.

Bitcoin can move forward without China, but at some point its participation is required. Maybe in the future when more countries support bitcoin the situations might change. At present China has got the largest market for bitcoin as well other digital currencies. This is required in all forms of growth of bitcoin.

Yes, this is for sure. No way bitcoin can be so dependent on China. There are a lot of bitcoiners outside China. Even when the FUD was happening, everytime there was a dump, the price is still pulled up. China can dump bitcoin and the world will gladly buy that bitcoin back.

Absolutely Yes, We have Japan, and Korea. Then why should worry?

Yeah right, it woul be rise to that price soon. Bitcoins does not only denpends on china there are many countries that support it also as mention above.
So even withoun china, we could probably see that price reach in the right time just be patience

I think price can go above $5000 without China. if China bans bitcoin itself(https://news.bitcoin.com/china-block-all-bitcoin-transactions/) we might see huge fluctuations in price, once everything settles down we'll move forward without China.

That's what all we can do, to continue moving forward, not because China bans it we eill stop using it or will dump it. Btc is able to do more and to achieve another records in its price without China.

Why is everyone concerned about the use of bitcoin in China? What do you care? Let me remind you that most countries in the world has the law on the legal use of bitcoins and it does not prevent it from spreading around the world. Drugs is also illegal, but they sell them in all countries. If you use bitcoin will be profitable no bans will not stop him.

Bitcoin price might go far than 5000 $ without china specially with china ban demand from Chinese will increase and bitcoin price will hit new high again relax and watch .

Yup it will reach up to 7000USD or many more the factor on which it is depending the acceptance from the world and now many countries across the globe started in bitcoin and this will give huge boost to the prices and they will cross the record index in no time and I am waiting for that time to earn and to join the race of profiteers.

in fact bitcoin is a decentralize currency and the users of bitcoin are available everywhere in the world, and the users of bitcoin are even increasing from time to time which is making bitcoin more stronger, so we can expect that the China will not effect bitcoin any more. i am sure that the investors from the other counties will give good support to bitcoin and they will never let bitcoin down.

Good thing about decentralized bitcoin, is it's ability to gain it's good price as well. That's why it's famous around the world now and more people were investing for a future plans of aiming at higher price rate and will sell for bigger profit gains. More investors aside from china is not worried about it, because they relied the whole world's populations and not from one country.

Definitely Bitcoin will reach that price even without these Chinese investors.  It may take a while but we know Bitcoin is expanding its market everyday.  More and more people are going into cryptocurrency so this gap that Chinese government made will eventually filled by the new bloods in cryptocurrency.  Let us just wait and see how Bitcoin recover its price and break the $5000 barrier once again.

yes it all depends on time. because we all believe that bitcoin has the power to do that even in the absence of china. bitcoin prices can reach quite high during this time because of the increasing bitcoin users who make transactions. so when now we can increase people who are interested in using bitcoin then this can add positive impact to the development of bitcoin. not the most important china but the more people who use bitcoin.

Easily you noob account that's no doubt the alt of another account.
Bitcoin doesn't need China at all, though it's obviously benefited
from that country.  China could be nuked into oblivion and bitcoin
(and crypto in general) would survive handily.  Would the price be
as high?  Maybe not. But it would still exist.

It can, but only at 2018.

The answer is in Russia.

Absolutely. Don't rely on China because bitcoin rely on us all and there are still countries that are planning to join the bitcoin adoption.

The price can reach and even go over 5000$,no doubt in that.  But one thing that might be affected is that China's mining farms contribute a lot to the crypto society. If China bans mining then, transaction fees will be high, there will be numerous unconfirmed transactions.  Russia has invited miners to do mining in a huge area of land along with necessary resources  so that can also help.

Can Bitcoin Prices Reach $ 5,000 Again Without China?

certainly can remember already started growing bitcoin in other countries and already many
companies in many countries start using bitcoin as a tool of transaction so that can be sure
even without China chinese bitcoin will keep increasing

yes they maybe considered as a big part or has a huge role in the ecosystem, but that doesnt mean bitcoin's price solely depend to china right?
yes, they may cause a huge damage and impact, but  that  doesnt mean bitcoin's price wont be able to recover at all.

My answer is maybe. What's more, the price will be even higher. You think. You have a good business and your government forbids them to do. What are your actions? You refuse business and starve or go to another country where no such prohibition? I think the answer is obvious. The Chinese government are not gods and they cannot destroy bitcoin.

Sure it will, and go much more over 5k, many many times, buy and HODL !!

Yes, same as that said above the price will surely go above $5000 or even higher. But to have the growth get continued for a long same as that at present we need the contribution of china as well. Just for conversations we can say that without China we can experience growth, but this gets limited to some point.

I think the price of bitcoin never reach $5,000 in this year even with china right ? I mean the highest price in this year is around $4,500 and we never hit $5,000. It's possible actually to reach $5,000 without China, the problem is bad news can happened not only from china but from other country too and when it happen it will affect the bitcoin price for sure.

Less so can be sure, but if i must to guessing.. I think there is a possibility that the time will come when bitcoin price can continue moving up again towards $5000 figure in the next time, and i believe this without China bitcoin can still moving towards more high again i guess, there are still other countries or miners,traders,investors who continuesly supporting bitcoin.

I believe Bitcoin price will once again reach $5000, though it might need another hype from a country accepting Bitcoin or a huge company integrating bicoin payment.  Though it was a devastating blow to Bitcoin when Chinese  government shutdown their local Bitcon exchanges, I still believe that even with this events, bitcoin will come back even stronger and will surpass $5k.

According to today's price on https://coinmarketcap.com/ we are less than ~600 dollars away from $5000 but the question of if we can get their without China is a lie because those guys have the numbers to help push bitcoin prices to the moon and most importantly it has a ready market.

We don't need China. There is enough ppl on this planet to support Crypto. And it's not like China has completely stopped using Bitcoin, they merely put some pressure on unregulated ICO's. Once they get their shit sorted out, they'll come back but Crypto will survive even without them.

They will surely regret what they did, but this is all because of unregulated ICO's and I think the regulated ones are not include in this so I think bitcoin would still continue in their country and this coming November I really think that we would see a higher price then when the impending Hark Fork activated then we can see a Drop again but I am speculating not much because some people see this Hard Fork for the Free Coin they can get.

The Chinese have the same numbers to go underground. How do you know what ticket they buy? No, I don't trust the Chinese. Any concentration of coins in one hand is always bad. I very much hope that the ban of China will not be a fake and we will get rid of its pressure.

Seriously? You think a huge positive news in the market right now will not cause a boom? You will be very surprised that the price will even pass $5000 before the end of this year. Moreover, the highest this year was not $4500, probably that was what you saw, go back to check the charts, we reached a maximum of $4900 1st of september and was still hovering around 4500 - 4900 before the china FUD.

It never reached at exact $5k yet. The highest price of bitcoin was $4,950 on 1 Sep, 2017 (according to CoinDesk), and after that, it has been lowering down in which the China incident happened which took it down to $3,226 on Sept 14, 2017. But after all that, the price has not been going down again, and we are already halfway to reach $5k, and soon that can be reached too, if nothing serious occurs again.

No doubt with that speculation because bitcoin are strong currency and even without Chinese country bitcoin can stand alone. Moreover, there's a lot of country who wants to take over the position of China in crypto currency society and I think they have a capacity to continue it. In additional there's a lot of users and supporters are believing to the ability of bitcoin and they also given their fully trust to this coins so it is impossible to destroy the bitcoin in crypto currency world.

Personally I will say "yes" for sure there's no doubt about it, Price of bitcoin can reach $5.000. Bitcoin will have good future by increasing price.Because  bitcoin not just depends on China only.

Yes we can, even without China we can reach even new All time highs but they are a big market changer and it's better if they will still get into bitcoin. They can pump the market any time they want but with the FUD that was spread last time we've seen on how they can also make the price low but after that everyone is not riding with those FUDs anymore so we are good without them.

I have read from some threads that China wanting to regulate btc ICO again and other btc operations, yet now even without China services on or attention on ,btc is can cope up on the situation slowly but atleast its increasing.

Yes, China has been with plans of regulating bitcoin as well other ICO's in a much perfect manner. This initiation is to reduce the China's influence on bitcoin. As the price keeps increasing, the value might cross the $5000 and to have this price contained it's a must to have the contribution of China.

If after all that bullcrap, bitcoin managed to settle itself and hover between 4200-4500 value after a huge collapse of price straight down to 3000, shall we not know what's the answer? Bitcoin doesn't have a fixed value and so my answer is yes, bitcoin price could reach anywhere.

It could be possible or even more than that before the end of this year. As what we observe nowadays, bitcoin price are almost there and there is a big chances to increase its price in the coming days. Since we know that some  big countries are making bitcoins legalized(just like Russia) and it will increase the numbers of users, automatically it will increase bitcoin price in the market.

It is very possible for the value of bitcoin to reach $5,000 very soon most especially the coming december as a result of Christmas season celebration. This is because I believe there is going to be high demand for bitcoin by december. Even though there is a negative news from China the effect on bitcoin will insignificant as compared to what has happened before.  

As of now the price of bitcoin is 4400 dollars and i bekieve even without china possible price of bitcoin before end of this month is 5k dollars so if you have extra money its better if you invest now in bitcoin and gor sure you will earn a lot of profit in the future but its up to you if you invest or not. Bitcoin pump more. More bitcoin more money to come.

We've still got China with us. Chinese bitcoin traders aren't just disappearing, they are still actively trading bitcoin. It's just that the platform they are conducting these trades are different now. Instead of exchanges, they are using localbitcoins increasingly and private trades conducted through wechat pay/alipay.

Even though the price has dropped initially when the news came out that China would ban ICOs and exchanges, right now the price has recovered significantly and seems to be intent in breaking $4500.

At first, I thought its not possible since China played a big role in cryptomarket. If it reaches new price without China maybe the banning of ICO maybe lifted in no time. Still waiting for what will happen after Segwit2x.

bitcoiners from china could just find a way to do trade or keep their trading activities as they say, their coverage isnt just limited to their country but also outside their country, what if the china bitcoiners moving to other country that accept bitcoin and do trading there? it's really possible since they are trading not small money but big money.
people are to afraid of china rumour but actually, not that scary.

True and I'm very confident the $ 5000 price will be easy to achieve and I'm sure it does not take the year 2018 as it will happen soon, with that analysis so I advise to keep bitcoin.

I think, it can. Bitcoin's value is now increasing after the downfall that resulted in China banning exchanges and ICO. From its price before which is 4800, it fell down to 3300$ but it is now again priced at 4200 which proves that Bitcoin can still be successful without China. I think it will be able to break the 5000$ mark before this year ened especially if the hardfork that will happen in Novembember will succeed like the previous one, that made the value of Bitcoin to reach the 4k mark drom 2800 and hoping that same thing will happen in the incomming hardfork.

Yeah i think so.. it will happening i guess, there are still many other countries that respond well to the using of bitcoin and everything related to crypto currency. And as is known from some information that i reads there will be fork / segwit2x soon, and most likely the bitcoin price will reach $5000 again surely. I just guessing, i think bitcoin will be more goodly on its price movements leads to the higher as time goes by for the next.

Of course, Bitcoin has such great ability and potential in terms of its business. well, without china, bitcoin is even able to maintain a high price, so of course it can. only, the price drop occurs because of panic heard the news.

The sign for the price increase is becoming clearer, these days the bitcoin price is not very volatile ie the $ 4300- $ 4400 range, and I'm sure this month the bitcoin price will reach $ 5000.

Yes want it to do so and that's why they are forcing the exchange to close and I doubt it that it's a permanent decision since we know what attitude China has. They won't let a single source of income from them to be stranded. If I'm not mistaken these decisions coming from them are only temporary and a week from now after the election they'll show another decision or it's the time they'll lift the ban.

That's possible I think. As we can currently see, Bitcoin is slowly making its way up again from the major dump in Bitcoin's market value but it is able to recover. It is downed to 3300 and is now again in 4200 and that's something to look forward with. There will be hardfork in November and if that fork will be successful, it will make Bitcoin having a price of 6000 by the end of this year, more possible without China.

now thats sure we will not hear "china will ban btc" again. So that speculation ended. I think its possible to hit 5k but first we need to pass 4.5k

Yes ,bitcoin will reach 5000$ even without china investors, cause it doesnt mean that without china investors bitcoin will crash?  I know that china is were the biggest and most traders coming from. But the fact is the world is already accepting bitcoin which is one thing that bitcoin will go up even without china.

The fact is no one can really say if it will or not, activities in the market sure feels like it will even before the end of October as it is steadily rising and trying to break the $4300 resistance presently, but however it ends up, there is always still hope. I guess without China will not impact any progress of bitcoins. I guess Chinese people will participate into bitcoin ecosystem by any means which will be more than enough for bitcoin to continue its progress.

I also think they will soon to removed the banning and gets back on crypto activities, though btc can reach that amount again without China but with no specific time since it's increasing slowly.

Yes it can , why not ? Bitcoin can survive even with or without China. As long as there is an ivestor and a user of cryptocurrency bitcoin will last. And to think that even without China the BTC price still continue to move up. That's why it is not impossible for the bitcoin to reach until $5,000 by the end of the month.

Yes ofcourse. BTC has a lot of potential to boom in the market of digital currency even without China.  It is still the number of users and investors are reason why BTC is still stand at the digital currency. And aside from that the value of BTC is continue to move up.

I think Bitcoin prices are inflated because people in China currently are having a tough time trading, and once they find another avenue to trade, there will be a lot of sales.

In my opinion, I think that is going to happen soon, the value of bitcoin will reach new highs of $5000. I just feel like they were some organisations which manipulated the market so that they buy as many bitcoins at a lower value, they know that when values begin recovering, they start making profit. However, that is about end, bitcoin will now start reaching new all time highs of $5000 or even more by the end of this year.

They become rich because of bitcoin so it is impossible to leave bitcoin, Chinese characters are concerned with profit even though they have to go out of china to get wealth, this is what keeps the bitcoin price up.

Based on its statistics in the market as of this moment, it shows that it is potent to reach 5000$ without China before this year end. And if the hardfork will be a success, there's an added possibility that it will be priced higher than 5k at the end of this year that will also open more oppurtunities for Bitcoin for the next years to come.

Will soon be reach, look at today's bitcoin prices, can be said to be very stable and continue to rise so that $ 5000 price will be achieved soon this month, after $ 5000 is reached then this year will reach $ 10,000.

Today the price of bitcoin is around the value of 4600$.In ten days the price of bitcoin will reach the value of 5000$.But won't accept the Speculation of 1000$.If this continue means,the price of bitcoin will reach the value of 6500$.But it takes another one year to reach the value of 10000$.

Bitcoin will reach those prices but to say it is without China isn't exactly correct. They are still a major player in the market despite the shut down of a few exchanges last month.

Definitely, it can reach $5,000 again, in fact Bitcoin price to be stable and increasing at a constant phase. The current exchange prize says 1BTC = $4,660, so one can expect crossing the benchmark value $5,000 within next 10 days before the arrival of another Hard Fork i.e. Bitcoin Gold. Prize may go up or down but it will get back to track before the New Year. Also, China is likely to lift the Ban from ICO, which further can initiate the prize of Bitcoin.           

The fact that Bitcoin recovered without China is a big indicator that Bitcoin will definitely reach the 5,000 dollar mark even without the help of China. This should be an obvious scenario since Bitcoin is not for Chinese only, or to some other powerful country. Bitcoin is a global thing so China is not a loss in Bitcoin. There could be another country that can fill what China wasted, like Japan for instance.

In early days when china banned ICOs we say a little panic in the market, even the price dump to 3000$ but later on its price start increasing and now we can see that the price again going to touch 5000$ in next few days, therefore we can expect that a single country cannot effect bitcoin image too much.

The hardfork, will probably make the price go up, so many people want to repeat the success and benefits of getting bitcoin cash in 1:1 ration I guess and the same goes for bitcoin gold. so many people are expecting free money out of a thin air and by just holding. such a great opportunity not to miss time. I'm myself trying to gather bitcoin as much as I can so that I can also receive the bitcoin gold too.

Definitely. As of right now, the price of BTC has been rising again. Couple that with the fork that's gonna happen soon and it will surely drive the price up. I predict that we can hit $5,000 again by either late December or early January. I just hope that it stays stable on that price though.

We are already very close to 5000$ even China still continue banning bitcoin. In fact the users of bitcoin are now present everywhere, therefore bitcoin is getting a strong support from its users, therefore we can expect that the price of bitcoin will even cross $8000 very smoothly, because people still confident and interested to buy bitcoin and hold it for the price increase.

Of course, It's based on the concept of demand and supply. It all depends on how the market values it!!

It will be more than that by this year as by next week it will already hit your target $5,000 and still we have 2 months left before this year ends so i guess it will be $6,000 is my mark for 2017. Maybe China is regretting right now especially there people because they lost the chance to gain big as they ban the bitcoin before. Now they will start at very expensive bitcoin value together with some of the panic people.

For the past few months I have doubts that bitcoin might not reach $5000 without China's help. Upon seeing the community working together little by little the prices starts to grow. At first, it was just $100-200 which is fine and not too big. Then the price sets as $4000 in a matter of weeks which is great. As of the price trend today, I think we might be able to set a new record in pricing without China's help.

Why not? Bitcoin already reaches near $5000. Now Bitcoin price is $4800+. See here https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/. And I hope within this week Bitcoin will reach $5k in first time without China market.

Yes, Obviously Bitcoin will reach $5000 without China. Already Bitcoin reaches $4800+. And within this week Bitcoin definitely reach $5000. China will not create any effect on it. Nobody can stop Bitcoin.

Journey of Bitcoin does not depend on any unique country! It is already proved that, without china progress of bitcoin did not stop! I hope you also understand it.

We’re currently at $4866 on Stamp right now so it’s looking very likely that $5000 will be breached without China.

Happy days!

yes now it's so easy to hit +5000 , and i think in the end of year we can see 6000