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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: seavey87 on September 30, 2017, 02:58:32 AM



Title: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on September 30, 2017, 02:58:32 AM
antikonti has numerous for sale postings on the forum. you can find them here:

[WTS] Cleaning some of my mining army (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1964170)
Selling mining part #2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409)
[WTS] Antminer D3  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2189463)
[WTS] My army of antminers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2189493)

I replied via PM to his D3 for sale, he responded:

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/1I1K2V10443Y0C3H1X14/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.30.14%20PM.png

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/3y3s150t251B1M072423/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.30.31%20PM.png

We then took the conversation to skype:

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/0A2k0H0v193j1Q0j3Y3d/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.32.11%20PM.png

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/0Y1U2Z3J431j2t0x2S2W/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.32.29%20PM.png

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/2a0G1R2O1M2L431r0i0h/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.32.46%20PM.png

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/0K0I090z2i3D322h2X36/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.37.50%20PM.png

*This is where he starts to impersonate monbux. The funny thing is that before I even sent my email address to monbux via PM I already had a email waiting for me in my inbox from "monbux" aka antikonti. See below:

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/1o0p1l0X3w3M0N47013c/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.38.39%20PM.png

The rest is below: (I can provide more screenshots)

[9/29/17, 9:35:45 PM] luke: Alright cool
[9/29/17, 9:35:53 PM] Seavey: What is your name?
[9/29/17, 9:36:57 PM] luke: What he emailed you ?
[9/29/17, 9:37:05 PM] Seavey: Yes
[9/29/17, 9:37:16 PM] luke: This message has been removed.
[9/29/17, 9:37:56 PM] Seavey: Ok
[9/29/17, 9:38:01 PM] Seavey: I sent him a email back
[9/29/17, 9:40:13 PM] luke: Do you have btc in your wallet to send to him and i will send the miner monday cause it's first business day
[9/29/17, 9:40:21 PM] Seavey: Yes
[9/29/17, 9:46:37 PM] luke: Cool
[9/29/17, 9:48:37 PM] luke: Did monbux contact you after replying ?
[9/29/17, 9:48:44 PM] Seavey: No not yet
[9/29/17, 9:48:59 PM] luke: We will wait
[9/29/17, 9:49:04 PM] Seavey: Im really excited though, I need this miner bad
[9/29/17, 9:49:21 PM] Seavey: My mother in law is very ill and it will help pay for the medical bills
[9/29/17, 9:49:38 PM] luke: I need the cash aswell hope make this deal true
[9/29/17, 9:50:36 PM] luke: Hope monbux contact you soon
[9/29/17, 9:52:17 PM] Seavey: I hope so
[9/29/17, 9:52:37 PM] Seavey: I just got an email from him
[9/29/17, 9:52:43 PM] luke: Cool
[9/29/17, 9:52:52 PM] Seavey: do you trust him? this is not scam right?
[9/29/17, 9:53:15 PM] luke: I trust him, cause I've used him once and everything went smooth.
[9/29/17, 9:53:31 PM] luke: You can check his thread and feedback is awesome only positive comments

https://dr5mo5s7lqrtc.cloudfront.net/items/1y1u2s1b260A1E061Y3b/Screen%20Shot%202017-09-29%20at%2010.42.24%20PM.png

[9/29/17, 9:54:07 PM] Seavey: Ok because i really need this and if i lost this money it will be really bad for me
[9/29/17, 9:54:11 PM] Seavey: thank you, sending now
[9/29/17, 9:55:51 PM] luke: Thank you aswell I'm glad found buyer of my miner
[9/29/17, 9:58:44 PM] luke: Any news ?
[9/29/17, 9:58:58 PM] Seavey: I sent to BTC address
[9/29/17, 9:59:39 PM] luke: Did he told you to reply after sent the coins or not ?
[9/29/17, 10:01:03 PM] luke: How much exactly you sent him ?
[9/29/17, 10:01:37 PM] Seavey: I sent the full $3100 to the link you sent
[9/29/17, 10:02:38 PM] luke: Reply his email you sent the btc and tell when it's confirmed transaction
[9/29/17, 10:02:54 PM] Seavey: Ok, I sent to address in here
[9/29/17, 10:02:55 PM] Seavey: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0
[9/29/17, 10:02:59 PM] Seavey: emailing him now
[9/29/17, 10:03:43 PM] luke: that's his tipping adress for donate
[9/29/17, 10:04:16 PM] Seavey: yes i sent 1% to that and the $3100 to the one in email, right?
[9/29/17, 10:04:17 PM] luke: He didn't give your his btc wallet in email ?
[9/29/17, 10:04:33 PM] luke: ah alright
[9/29/17, 10:04:52 PM] luke: I thought you sent all funds in his tipping adress :D
[9/29/17, 10:04:56 PM] luke: as donate
[9/29/17, 10:08:54 PM] Seavey: I know you’re a scammer
[9/29/17, 10:09:02 PM] Seavey: I am going to post a thread about you
[9/29/17, 10:09:16 PM] Seavey: fucking idiot
[9/29/17, 10:10:20 PM] Seavey: Blocked luke


Notes:

His skype is live:vazata7
The wallet he wanted me to send to: 1AqGEVdSvrh2A6nXNDrMnNiTAahcQCeFPy
The email address that was setup for "reply to": chernakotka11@gmail.com
Proof that antikonti =skype - live:vazata7 = chernakotka11 = chernakotka11@gmail.com = douchebag = impersonator

https://i.imgur.com/JcPEcvP.png


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: monbux on September 30, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
That user (with that email address) has been known to try to scam people by impersonating me via email.

I would expect people to care about their money enough to try to actually confirm with me, either via PM here and/or requesting a signature to prove my identity.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: Danos on September 30, 2017, 10:03:22 PM
same as everyone i hate the scammers around.
but do you mind show us proof that antikonti impersonating somehow and proof that's his skype so we can connect the things and beware.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on October 01, 2017, 12:52:32 AM
That user (with that email address) has been known to try to scam people by impersonating me via email.

I would expect people to care about their money enough to try to actually confirm with me, either via PM here and/or requesting a signature to prove my identity.

**Updated original post with new image URLs**

monbox- I figured it was a scam with the low pricing and how he was so persistent. When he emailed me pretending to be you before I had even sent you a PM it was confirmed.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: hedgy73 on November 21, 2017, 07:42:23 AM
Avoiding escrow and locking threads are 2 of the biggest warning signs of a scam.

I would also say not providing pictures with username and date but they're managing to get them now >:(.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: magneto on November 21, 2017, 08:09:49 AM
Like monbux said, lots of impersonators(or lots of attempts at impersonating him by the same person) recently of his escrow service. Almost all has been done through email. If you don't get a signed message to confirm his identity you should not trust him.

This is why you should always check fully before you send any BTC.

And i doubt the process is this simple, from establishing contact straight to asking for payment.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on November 21, 2017, 12:18:34 PM
i don't see how chernakotka11 or this gmail is connected with me ?
funny how the guy requested monbux then talking about email escrowing consider its noted that it should be used only via PM, now he claim that im the one requesting anything over email.
consider he posted his email public, EVERYONE can send him pm claiming to be me, or monbox.
Not sure why and how he connect me with those guys who clearly trying to scam him which is not my fault.
The version is a variant of the hypothesis, and without valid proof, any hypothesis are just imaginary story based on no proofs.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: Danos on November 21, 2017, 12:36:14 PM
Before i start, i would like to clear that i don't care about the OP and his activity's but im posting here because it seems the people who "fight" the scammers are more active in threads without proper proof as this one, so i will use the "scene" with hope some of you guys will take a look on the real scammers which are proof based.
Let me remind you of the proof based reports on the scamming group around ->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2383001
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2267931
I take a close look daily on the "Scam accusations" section and so far, i see activity from you guys who can do something against them only on threads which got no proofs for the actual "scam" but when there is one with valid proofs and arguments, you guys doing nothing.
Don't get me wrong, i do not support or protect the OP because i never did research against him, but i do research the activity of scammers and the people who can help us with the war against them.
You guys tagging randomly people in non-proof based threads but leaving the real scammers alone.
Please, take a look on those scamming group already and instead of fighting not proof based threads, do the same to the proof based ones.
OP, i will also do personal research against you, and believe me, if you trying to scam/impersonate or doing any blackhat activity here on the forum,me and the guys who hate people like you will be watched closely from us.
The gift cards you sold me in the past and went first to me, doesn't mean i won't take actions against you if there is valid proofs that you actually trying to scam someone here.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on November 21, 2017, 10:20:23 PM
i don't see how chernakotka11 or this gmail is connected with me ?
funny how the guy requested monbux then talking about email escrowing consider its noted that it should be used only via PM, now he claim that im the one requesting anything over email.
consider he posted his email public, EVERYONE can send him pm claiming to be me, or monbox.
Not sure why and how he connect me with those guys who clearly trying to scam him which is not my fault.
The version is a variant of the hypothesis, and without valid proof, any hypothesis are just imaginary story based on no proofs.

Lets keep this simple.. is that your Skype?


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on November 21, 2017, 10:24:47 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: Danos on November 21, 2017, 11:39:17 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.
seavey87, i hate scammers just like you.
But if you like post to be valid, evidences is what we need.
you can't just say someone is scammer just because some random newcomer point anyone.
if we going to expose the fucking scammers, at least we need proofs so everyone can see we are talking the truth not just random bla bla


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on November 22, 2017, 02:34:09 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.
seavey87, i hate scammers just like you.
But if you like post to be valid, evidences is what we need.
you can't just say someone is scammer just because some random newcomer point anyone.
if we going to expose the fucking scammers, at least we need proofs so everyone can see we are talking the truth not just random bla bla

Did you read my original post..? Where he is posing as a forum escrow?


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: Danos on November 22, 2017, 10:49:04 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.
seavey87, i hate scammers just like you.
But if you like post to be valid, evidences is what we need.
you can't just say someone is scammer just because some random newcomer point anyone.
if we going to expose the fucking scammers, at least we need proofs so everyone can see we are talking the truth not just random bla bla

Did you read my original post..? Where he is posing as a forum escrow?
I see everything but i don't see connection between the user and the emails you noted.
I also don't see how if your email were public posted, how can anyone be connected with any impersonating consider everyone can be the impersonator.
If we like to expose the scammers to the community, valid proofs should be provided.
Otherwise we are just doing trash talk.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: cdtc on November 24, 2017, 04:26:49 AM
Avoiding escrow and locking threads are 2 of the biggest warning signs of a scam.

I would also say not providing pictures with username and date but they're managing to get them now >:(.

THIS!


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: Danos on November 24, 2017, 10:11:52 AM
Avoiding escrow and locking threads are 2 of the biggest warning signs of a scam.

I would also say not providing pictures with username and date but they're managing to get them now >:(.

THIS!
I do lock my threads also because i expose scammers everyday, and they go after me.
With that option, i can at least erase their bullshits.
I don't see anything which violate the forum rules to use option which it provide us as "Moderated thread".
And from what i can see, all the guy thread saying "escrow is welcome" and are with valid proofs of ownership.
Not to mention most of the smart guys around using self moderated thread because 80% of the new accounts here are activity farmers and they don't want their threads to be spammed.
Guys, help us to expose and catch the scammers, stop trying to think people are stupid to give them non proof based threads.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 03, 2017, 04:31:43 AM
i don't see how chernakotka11 or this gmail is connected with me ?
funny how the guy requested monbux then talking about email escrowing consider its noted that it should be used only via PM, now he claim that im the one requesting anything over email.
consider he posted his email public, EVERYONE can send him pm claiming to be me, or monbox.
Not sure why and how he connect me with those guys who clearly trying to scam him which is not my fault.
The version is a variant of the hypothesis, and without valid proof, any hypothesis are just imaginary story based on no proofs.

The gmail is connected to you because you told me to message you via skype live:vazata7

https://i.imgur.com/6K5TVtg.png

At the time your skype display name was luke (notice the skype picture), it is now baumqul:

https://i.imgur.com/Tvo4RrE.png

YOU suggested monbux not me, therefor you are lying when you say "funny how the guy requested monbux"

https://i.imgur.com/RJaokak.png

Yes, I forgot to remove my email from one of the pictures I posted in this thread. Please do enlighten me how someone could impersonate monbux on September 29th 9:34PM EST when I posted this thread after that?

https://i.imgur.com/L3nvqLo.png

My proof that your douchebag self is connected to chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com:

https://i.imgur.com/KjXdxkY.png

Further proof on how you can go stand in the corner and think about your actions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

On september 16th a different member made the same complaint about you:

  • antikonti tried to scam me
  • received email from chernakotka11@gmail.com masked as monbux bitcointalk@gmail.com


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 03, 2017, 06:12:43 PM
Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 03, 2017, 06:37:42 PM
Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.

Yeah.. just one thing idiot.

I received the email from you impersonating monbux DURING our conversation which was BEFORE I opened this thread.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 03, 2017, 09:16:44 PM
Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.

Yeah.. just one thing idiot.

I received the email from you impersonating monbux DURING our conversation which was BEFORE I opened this thread.
How come you saying "received from you".
Why from me ?
Show us PROOFS.
Why from me but not anyone else ?
Explain and connect any proofs or evidences, we are waiting from month.
Stop trash talking and show some proofs that's my email or that I send this email.
Can't wait to see your imagine evidences, you making me laugh again.
You received the email from the imposter AFTER you post your email public.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 03, 2017, 09:26:15 PM
Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.

Yeah.. just one thing idiot.

I received the email from you impersonating monbux DURING our conversation which was BEFORE I opened this thread.
How come you saying "received from you".
Why from me ?
Show us PROOFS.
Why from me but not anyone else ?
Explain and connect any proofs or evidences, we are waiting from month.
Stop trash talking and show some proofs that's my email or that I send this email.
Can't wait to see your imagine evidences, you making me laugh again.
You received the email from the imposter AFTER you post your email public.


Since you are struggling to address multiple points at once, I will ask one question at a time:

Is live:vazata7 your skype?
https://i.imgur.com/HDUTYqn.png


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 03, 2017, 10:22:39 PM
Consider you ignoring everything I'm saying I will ask you one question at a time.
How do you connect this email as mine?
Is it noted as mine anywhere or me saying it is mine ?
Or just because you want it to be mine, it is mine right?
Waiting for proofs.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 03, 2017, 10:49:49 PM
Consider you ignoring everything I'm saying I will ask you one question at a time.
How do you connect this email as mine?
Is it noted as mine anywhere or me saying it is mine ?
Or just because you want it to be mine, it is mine right?
Waiting for proofs.

TIMELINE FOR IDIOTS (also known as antikonti)
*times in EST

September 29th
9:10 PM - start of skype chat
9:22 PM- I give you my email
9:29 PM - you instruct me to PM monbux with the terms of our deal
9:32 PM - I tell you PM has already been sent
9:34PM - I receive email from fake monbux
9:34:14 PM - I now PM monbux

I received the email from monbux within the same minute I PM'd him

This thread was posted after the email was received. I have attached various screenshots to back up these timestamps.





Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 03, 2017, 10:52:20 PM
Now answer my simple question:
Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.

Yeah.. just one thing idiot.

I received the email from you impersonating monbux DURING our conversation which was BEFORE I opened this thread.
How come you saying "received from you".
Why from me ?
Show us PROOFS.
Why from me but not anyone else ?
Explain and connect any proofs or evidences, we are waiting from month.
Stop trash talking and show some proofs that's my email or that I send this email.
Can't wait to see your imagine evidences, you making me laugh again.
You received the email from the imposter AFTER you post your email public.


Since you are struggling to address multiple points at once, I will ask one question at a time:

Is live:vazata7 your skype?
https://i.imgur.com/HDUTYqn.png


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 04, 2017, 02:50:57 AM
For god sake do you even realize what PROOF and EVIDENCE is ?
Why you keep posting notepad story's based on theorems ?
Where is the screenshots proofs of your words ? Where Is that email connected to me ?
Show us PROOFS not what your mind want.
Theorems are fictions based on people fantasy, but proofs, they are based on strong evidences at least with screenshots and connections.
So could you please show us some PROOFS that's my email or you will keep posting notepad story's on what you think it is.
Because thinking of something doesn't make it real or true, but proving it makes it.

Simply right after you posted your email, impersonator tried to scam you which is more than obvious.
How can anyone know your email before that consider its not public...
Start using ur brain, and if you want to update this thread, update it with CONNECTIONS WITH EVIDENCES.
Notepad story's based on your fantasy is not proofs but only theorems.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 04, 2017, 03:38:56 AM
For god sake do you even realize what PROOF and EVIDENCE is ?
Why you keep posting notepad story's based on theorems ?
Where is the screenshots proofs of your words ? Where Is that email connected to me ?
Show us PROOFS not what your mind want.
Theorems are fictions based on people fantasy, but proofs, they are based on strong evidences at least with screenshots and connections.
So could you please show us some PROOFS that's my email or you will keep posting notepad story's on what you think it is.
Because thinking of something doesn't make it real or true, but proving it makes it.

Simply right after you posted your email, impersonator tried to scam you which is more than obvious.
How can anyone know your email before that consider its not public...
Start using ur brain, and if you want to update this thread, update it with CONNECTIONS WITH EVIDENCES.
Notepad story's based on your fantasy is not proofs but only theorems.

Keep bumping your scam accusation post with nonsense..  :D

How would someone know my email before I posted this thread? Oh. I don't know.. maybe before you asked for it?!

https://i.imgur.com/Qfr7y1a.png

It is shame your account will go to waste.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 04, 2017, 01:45:44 PM
i keep bumping this thread against me with no sense ? :D
Since when requesting proofs and evidences are no sense ? :D
I hope everyone can see your desperate attempt to ruin someone name with no proof based.
Keep going, I believe I'm not the only one who laugh.
You were contacted via imposter AFTER you posted your email public.
End of story.
And next time check your timelines before you making your self looking more stupid.

Based on your screenshots, the guy from skype lets see...

You claim he emailed you at 9:35 via skype based on your screenshots  -> http://prntscr.com/hiwxrm
Interesting, the email is from 9:34 based on your screenshtots -> http://prntscr.com/hiwy7c
Seems like 5-6 mins before this you confirm that you have posted on his thread (your email public) -> http://prntscr.com/hiwyeo
I'm not sure did you delete your posts so I can connect it but based on YOUR screenshots I don't even need to.
Other interesting thing from YOUR screenshot is http://prntscr.com/hiwzsx
This is getting more confused so when the imposter actually contacted you?
How this skype is connected to fake monbux, me or that fake email kotka or whatever it is.
And how this email is connected with me somehow.
Stop ignoring the questions and requests and start posting EVIDENCES or you are in dead end (You actually are since the begin of this thread)
Here comes the bad part here... When people lie (like you) he mess up the lies...
I will watch and laugh when you messup on your lies.
Waiting for the proof based arguments, not just empty words without proofs.

*P.S: I don't mind bumping this thread so people can see how the liars and scammers like you are dumb nowdays.
Keep going.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on December 05, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
stfu you piece of shit cunt antikonti
why did you live me a fake bad trust saying:

"Acussing of scamming without proof, spamming on people threads, making sales without proof of purchase.
NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed.
You were warned!"

1. Acussing of scamming without proof - the proof is this thread and the numerous comments in your selling thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0  that you have deleted after you been exposed, which is the sole reason why this thread was started!

2. making sales without proof of purchase - like what for example??

3.NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed-  based on what? lol

bottom line you are a worthless  lying scammer that should be banned forever
fak off from here


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 05, 2017, 03:13:37 PM
stfu you piece of shit cunt antikonti
why did you live me a fake bad trust saying:

"Acussing of scamming without proof, spamming on people threads, making sales without proof of purchase.
NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed.
You were warned!"

1. Acussing of scamming without proof - the proof is this thread and the numerous comments in your selling thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0  that you have deleted after you been exposed, which is the sole reason why this thread was started!

2. making sales without proof of purchase - like what for example??

3.NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed-  based on what? lol

bottom line you are a worthless  lying scammer that should be banned forever
fak off from here

Why I should be banned kiddo ?
If u have anything against me, why don't you post it here?
Because you are cancer shit talker just like the OP?
I feel really bad for you  two, or maybe you are alt of this kid ?
Keep trash talking, if u have anything against me, feel free to post it there


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: hedgy73 on December 06, 2017, 12:17:10 AM
stfu you piece of shit cunt antikonti
why did you live me a fake bad trust saying:

"Acussing of scamming without proof, spamming on people threads, making sales without proof of purchase.
NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed.
You were warned!"

1. Acussing of scamming without proof - the proof is this thread and the numerous comments in your selling thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0  that you have deleted after you been exposed, which is the sole reason why this thread was started!

2. making sales without proof of purchase - like what for example??

3.NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed-  based on what? lol

bottom line you are a worthless  lying scammer that should be banned forever
fak off from here

Why I should be banned kiddo ?
If u have anything against me, why don't you post it here?
Because you are cancer shit talker just like the OP?
I feel really bad for you  two, or maybe you are alt of this kid ?
Keep trash talking, if u have anything against me, feel free to post it there
You've proved no trust here yet scream whenever anyone posts anything against you.

I'd say you are a seasoned scammer using anything against seasoned members to try and disguise your scams.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on December 06, 2017, 04:18:45 AM
stfu you piece of shit cunt antikonti
why did you live me a fake bad trust saying:

"Acussing of scamming without proof, spamming on people threads, making sales without proof of purchase.
NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed.
You were warned!"

1. Acussing of scamming without proof - the proof is this thread and the numerous comments in your selling thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0  that you have deleted after you been exposed, which is the sole reason why this thread was started!

2. making sales without proof of purchase - like what for example??

3.NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed-  based on what? lol

bottom line you are a worthless  lying scammer that should be banned forever
fak off from here

Why I should be banned kiddo ?
If u have anything against me, why don't you post it here?
Because you are cancer shit talker just like the OP?
I feel really bad for you  two, or maybe you are alt of this kid ?
Keep trash talking, if u have anything against me, feel free to post it there

serious question now. are you plain dumb or just acting as one?

do you hve any problems with reading comprehension? seems like yes.

I have just posted my problem with you here you damn moron!

you accusing me in the above 1,2,3 points where your accusations are baseless and that's one of my main problems with you!  can you base any of these accusation except your filthy lies??

p.s. why are you sending hedgy pms because he is on to you and you think if you get him on your side the rest of us will feel compelled to join him by removing our negative trust?

PATHETIC SCUMBAG


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 06, 2017, 11:04:05 AM
stfu you piece of shit cunt antikonti
why did you live me a fake bad trust saying:

"Acussing of scamming without proof, spamming on people threads, making sales without proof of purchase.
NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed.
You were warned!"

1. Acussing of scamming without proof - the proof is this thread and the numerous comments in your selling thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0  that you have deleted after you been exposed, which is the sole reason why this thread was started!

2. making sales without proof of purchase - like what for example??

3.NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed-  based on what? lol

bottom line you are a worthless  lying scammer that should be banned forever
fak off from here

Why I should be banned kiddo ?
If u have anything against me, why don't you post it here?
Because you are cancer shit talker just like the OP?
I feel really bad for you  two, or maybe you are alt of this kid ?
Keep trash talking, if u have anything against me, feel free to post it there

Because you're a serial scammer full of bullshit.

You've proved no trust here yet scream whenever anyone posts anything against you.

I'd say you are a seasoned scammer using anything against seasoned members to try and disguise your scams.

Anyway your time is up, you've been found out, you're a cheap shitbag scammer and nothing will detract from that.

Keep posting your bullshit no-one will believe it and dont bother sending me anymore pm's I will ignore them.

Have a great day ;D.
You are the worst scammer on this website and I will bump the thread against you everyday :)
You called me scammer ? Prove it! Who did I scam ? :D


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 06, 2017, 09:38:27 PM
ME! You tried to scam me, as well as others here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 08, 2017, 12:46:05 AM
MORE PROOF 12/6/17-12/7/17

antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator

A fellow forum member stated:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2534885.msg25856087#msg25856087

"I was going to take him up on his paypal offer, until he told me to send it as a family and friend gift. To everyone reading, you CANNOT dispute charges that are sent as gifts to friends and family on paypal. He has no issue with you using paypal to receive the money as a "gift", because paypal wont come after him when you try to dispute it because it was sent through the friends/family option."

Before we continue let's see what PayPal says about friends and family:

Quote
Thank you for contacting PayPal. Don't worry, we're always happy to help. I am sorry but personal friends and family payments cannot be disputed. This is because there is no official buyer or seller so there is no buyer or seller protection available. If you have already made one such payment, you can always ask for a refund or a cancellation from them. Depending on the situation, you can always contact your local authorities, your nation's cyber crime division, or try to work something out with your bank or card issue if you paid with one of those. -Jessica

The only way to try to dispute a friends and family charge is if your account was compromised and you didn't send the payment yourself.

Lets see what antikonti had to say about that:

Quote
Sadly everyone know there is 180 days which Everyone can dispute everything about paypal.
Sadly people using paypal without know their policy and trying to buy miners and bitcoins with it making it safe only for themselves but not the sellers.
Before you make youself look stupid, go at the exchange section and check how every single LEGIT buyer of paypal via bitcoins requests 180 days hold for payments for a reason.
Next time learn ur lesson before posting no sense.
And yes, we do accept paypal only as friends and family, we never hide that

Quote
I just admit that EVERY single payment even friends and family can be charged back but seems like u can't read.
For everyone reading this, paypal buyer protection is totally different thing than fraud protection.
If you are not familiar with paypal, do not use it! Same as Bitcoin Smiley
Next time when u put words on my mouth, learn to read. If u can't use translate/
I clearly stated that people paying btc after 180 days of hold PayPal funds, because even when u send them as friends and family, u can steal you money back for 180 days window.

Quote
Straight from all scammers waiting, you can sell your bitcoins and receive family and friends Cheesy:D:D
You just quoted why Buyer protection is not valid for friends and family, and for obvious reasons, there is payment for goods and services.
When you use goods and services you have buyer protection.
When you use friends and family you have fraud protection.
Explain me son, why if "friends and family" is so secure, why no one taking paypal at the currency exchange ? Cheesy Because we all know that ALL payments including "Friends and family" can be reversed back.
If you are not familiar don't talk.
Consider the sender of "friends and family" have fraud protection, in this case, where is the seller protection son ?
There is no seller protection because that's not payment for sale, but only fraud protection for the one who sends.
So now, learned how paypal work, do you feel stupid?
If you still need help with paypal and how people scam with it, you can go at the exchange currency section and open thread that you buying bitcoins with "Friends and family" I will have good laugh how you will explain everyone how safe that method is Cheesy:D:D

The evidence speaks for itself that antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com = douchebag / impersonator / scammer.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on December 08, 2017, 01:44:58 AM
the next milestone will be to check and if true then prove that antikonti and Donos are the same person https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2426183.0



Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 09, 2017, 07:49:31 PM
Bump. This scammer still has for sale threads


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: hedgy73 on December 09, 2017, 09:54:27 PM
stfu you piece of shit cunt antikonti
why did you live me a fake bad trust saying:

"Acussing of scamming without proof, spamming on people threads, making sales without proof of purchase.
NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed.
You were warned!"

1. Acussing of scamming without proof - the proof is this thread and the numerous comments in your selling thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0  that you have deleted after you been exposed, which is the sole reason why this thread was started!

2. making sales without proof of purchase - like what for example??

3.NEVER EVER deal with this guy without escrow or you will be scammed-  based on what? lol

bottom line you are a worthless  lying scammer that should be banned forever
fak off from here

Why I should be banned kiddo ?
If u have anything against me, why don't you post it here?
Because you are cancer shit talker just like the OP?
I feel really bad for you  two, or maybe you are alt of this kid ?
Keep trash talking, if u have anything against me, feel free to post it there

Because you're a serial scammer full of bullshit.

You've proved no trust here yet scream whenever anyone posts anything against you.

I'd say you are a seasoned scammer using anything against seasoned members to try and disguise your scams.

Anyway your time is up, you've been found out, you're a cheap shitbag scammer and nothing will detract from that.

Keep posting your bullshit no-one will believe it and dont bother sending me anymore pm's I will ignore them.

Have a great day ;D.
You are the worst scammer on this website and I will bump the thread against you everyday :)
You called me scammer ? Prove it! Who did I scam ? :D

I am the worst scammer on this website??? Prove it! I've never scammed anyone in my life and never will!

I'm a law abiding citizen that has a job and pays taxes and would rather give than steal unlike people like you.

The only negative trust I have is from scammers I've exposed.


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 11, 2017, 04:18:59 AM
One serious question I have is how are these scammers getting their name and the date in pics of miners?

They actually have miners on hand but will keep the miner and your funds?

They pay a friend to take a pic with their name and date?

Amazing photoshop skills?

What do you guys think?


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: Makingsure on December 11, 2017, 05:10:01 AM
One serious question I have is how are these scammers getting their name and the date in pics of miners?

They actually have miners on hand but will keep the miner and your funds?

They pay a friend to take a pic with their name and date?

Amazing photoshop skills?

What do you guys think?

my theory (based on what i have seen)

in 3rd world countries, groups of these guys get together, they create telegram groups and facebook pages, end up with 100's of like minded scammy-ass individuals willing to work together for their personal greed :(

these groups team up on scams of miner sales, using systems like you mentioned, different people, same miners (will we need to ask for serial #'s now to keep track?!?)

as these guys are always about 6 months to 1 year behind on scam tactics, they have now JUST gotten word spread that a "pic with the miners and date" can work for scamming if one can produce it :/

They also spread the word about ICO bounties (bounties are their favorite), and each control (and encourage eachother) to have atleast 3-5 accounts, telling themselves once legendary they will make 1000's$ a month
(which they wont as they usually end up red paint, or banned, or both, and sig campaigns are dying due to people like them)

10% (and higher everyday) make it through and become legend, and exagerate the profits to their scammy groups, furthering the issue

ts become big bisiness to scam BTC, with the lower income countries taking head  


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 12, 2017, 12:17:47 AM
Bump. This scammer still has for sale threads


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on December 12, 2017, 02:47:16 AM
One serious question I have is how are these scammers getting their name and the date in pics of miners?

They actually have miners on hand but will keep the miner and your funds?

They pay a friend to take a pic with their name and date?

Amazing photoshop skills?

What do you guys think?

that's funny because antikonti's facebook is clearly a hot chick. which i doubt he is since it looks like a fake profile, anyways, and the proof of ownership shows a hairy dudes hand with a star tattoo on it- fairly gay but whatever, i try not to judge people.

so, in theory, yes he could have even paid 100 dollars for some random dude to take these pics and images for him, or this dude with the gay star tattoo is him.

I find it hard to believe antikonti is a female. since females generally do not behave like he does on all of his thread unless they are lesbian and then you can encounter this kind of behavior. but according to the facebook profile she/he is not lesbian.

bottom line something here stinks. but we already knew that didn't we?


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 12, 2017, 03:28:07 AM
One serious question I have is how are these scammers getting their name and the date in pics of miners?

They actually have miners on hand but will keep the miner and your funds?

They pay a friend to take a pic with their name and date?

Amazing photoshop skills?

What do you guys think?

that's funny because antikonti's facebook is clearly a hot chick. which i doubt he is since it looks like a fake profile, anyways, and the proof of ownership shows a hairy dudes hand with a star tattoo on it- fairly gay but whatever, i try not to judge people.

so, in theory, yes he could have even paid 100 dollars for some random dude to take these pics and images for him, or this dude with the gay star tattoo is him.

I find it hard to believe antikonti is a female. since females generally do not behave like he does on all of his thread unless they are lesbian and then you can encounter this kind of behavior. but according to the facebook profile she/he is not lesbian.

bottom line something here stinks. but we already knew that didn't we?

Good catch!

https://i.imgur.com/vTBNjsS.jpg

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23517519_134672727297954_5855786537252154657_n.jpg?oh=16ac2f6a00ea38f2458e2aae2fd3378a&oe=5ABEF115

Antikonti are you saying that's your hand? I mean, Ms Valerija, are you saying that's your hand?


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on December 13, 2017, 04:06:11 AM
if that's her hand I'm not sure I wanna see what happens underneath this orange blanket...


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on December 14, 2017, 05:57:14 AM
MORE PROOF 12/6/17-12/7/17

antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator

A fellow forum member stated:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2534885.msg25856087#msg25856087

"I was going to take him up on his paypal offer, until he told me to send it as a family and friend gift. To everyone reading, you CANNOT dispute charges that are sent as gifts to friends and family on paypal. He has no issue with you using paypal to receive the money as a "gift", because paypal wont come after him when you try to dispute it because it was sent through the friends/family option."

Before we continue let's see what PayPal says about friends and family:

Quote
Thank you for contacting PayPal. Don't worry, we're always happy to help. I am sorry but personal friends and family payments cannot be disputed. This is because there is no official buyer or seller so there is no buyer or seller protection available. If you have already made one such payment, you can always ask for a refund or a cancellation from them. Depending on the situation, you can always contact your local authorities, your nation's cyber crime division, or try to work something out with your bank or card issue if you paid with one of those. -Jessica

The only way to try to dispute a friends and family charge is if your account was compromised and you didn't send the payment yourself.

Lets see what antikonti had to say about that:

Quote
Sadly everyone know there is 180 days which Everyone can dispute everything about paypal.
Sadly people using paypal without know their policy and trying to buy miners and bitcoins with it making it safe only for themselves but not the sellers.
Before you make youself look stupid, go at the exchange section and check how every single LEGIT buyer of paypal via bitcoins requests 180 days hold for payments for a reason.
Next time learn ur lesson before posting no sense.
And yes, we do accept paypal only as friends and family, we never hide that

Quote
I just admit that EVERY single payment even friends and family can be charged back but seems like u can't read.
For everyone reading this, paypal buyer protection is totally different thing than fraud protection.
If you are not familiar with paypal, do not use it! Same as Bitcoin Smiley
Next time when u put words on my mouth, learn to read. If u can't use translate/
I clearly stated that people paying btc after 180 days of hold PayPal funds, because even when u send them as friends and family, u can steal you money back for 180 days window.

Quote
Straight from all scammers waiting, you can sell your bitcoins and receive family and friends Cheesy:D:D
You just quoted why Buyer protection is not valid for friends and family, and for obvious reasons, there is payment for goods and services.
When you use goods and services you have buyer protection.
When you use friends and family you have fraud protection.
Explain me son, why if "friends and family" is so secure, why no one taking paypal at the currency exchange ? Cheesy Because we all know that ALL payments including "Friends and family" can be reversed back.
If you are not familiar don't talk.
Consider the sender of "friends and family" have fraud protection, in this case, where is the seller protection son ?
There is no seller protection because that's not payment for sale, but only fraud protection for the one who sends.
So now, learned how paypal work, do you feel stupid?
If you still need help with paypal and how people scam with it, you can go at the exchange currency section and open thread that you buying bitcoins with "Friends and family" I will have good laugh how you will explain everyone how safe that method is Cheesy:D:D

The evidence speaks for itself that antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com = douchebag / impersonator / scammer.

antikonti how do you defend yourself against this scam accusation?


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: antikonti on December 17, 2017, 02:48:16 AM
I have boyfriend obviously, I'm not lowlife a-social person like you are and I'm not single.
Obviously young girl like me wont handle deals for that kind of money, and obviously I'm not alone at this.
Do you even expect I don't have team behind my back or I'm single ? :D
Pathetic...
I suggest you to keep more btc when brain transactions become possible.
I know pretty well all my boyfriends tattoos, thanks for sharing it :)

P.S: Jenia, go sell your coins for paypal at the currency exchange section if you trust so paypal and they can't turn back their money if it was send as friends and family...
I will have great laugh :D


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on December 17, 2017, 09:35:41 PM
I have boyfriend obviously, I'm not lowlife a-social person like you are and I'm not single.
Obviously young girl like me wont handle deals for that kind of money, and obviously I'm not alone at this.
Do you even expect I don't have team behind my back or I'm single ? :D
Pathetic...
I suggest you to keep more btc when brain transactions become possible.
I know pretty well all my boyfriends tattoos, thanks for sharing it :)

P.S: Jenia, go sell your coins for paypal at the currency exchange section if you trust so paypal and they can't turn back their money if it was send as friends and family...
I will have great laugh :D

your boyfriends left hand
https://i.imgur.com/vTBNjsS.jpg5[/img]

looks much hairier than his right hand

https://i.imgur.com/oGj7HwD.jpg


or is it not your boyfriend as you claimed? or he shaves his hands? or only his right hand? lol
or maybe that's your ex. took a photo of you naked and your current boyfriend is OK with that photo being your cover picture on facebook?


P.S: Jenia, go sell your coins for paypal at the currency exchange section if you trust so paypal and they can't turn back their money if it was send as friends and family...
I will have great laugh :D

you are delusional. where did i say anything about selling my coins? where did i even say i have any coins?? only scammers ask for payment via friends and familiy- everybody knows that. you say its reversible but have you ever tried to reverse that? do you know that kind and amount of proof paypal will ask from the person to confirm that his account was compromised? do you? i bet you dont. scammer


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 18, 2017, 04:11:54 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2387290

antikonti has another scam accusation against him


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 19, 2017, 12:09:17 AM
More accusations against him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2185329.0 
User was scammed out of $2010 USD because he didn't notice the spoofed monbux email.

This one is minor but supporting accusation at the least: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2185287.0
antikonti won't allow local pickup


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on December 22, 2017, 04:28:06 AM
bump


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: seavey87 on January 23, 2018, 01:50:52 AM
Bump


Title: Re: antikonti / chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
Post by: jenia1 on January 24, 2018, 01:40:26 AM
bump and make antikonti famous. you deserve to be a porn star with that body. if it's you...