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I am transferring all my bitmoin to http://www.tradehill.com/?r=TH-R110711 (http://www.tradehill.com/?r=TH-R110711), what about you ?

Nope.  Enjoy all the markets.  Also mine coins.  And spend them too.

See the r on the link? That is why I will never join tradehill. As long as that stupid referral program exists which encourages people to spam their stupid link, I will never trade on tradehill.

i sent all my coins to www.tradehill.com

See the m on the question? That's why I never transfer my bitmoin.

I like TradeHill

I have been using tradehill for a while and have been very happy. Dwolla transfers are happening within a couple of hours and things are working great. 

I don't like BTC Instant Buy & Sell because I don't get the actual price quoted.  Instead I found to always place a buy or sell order to guarantee the price I get for BTC.

And what is wrong with sharing a referral link if it allows you to earn a little bit extra?

Sign-up with my referral code - https://www.tradehill.com/?r=TH-R1347  - for the usual 10% off your commission for life.

Trying out both actually.

Tradehill has insane fees for transferring money internationally though. So it's just for some speculation testing.

Fixed that for you. This thread was created so people would visit his link, no other reason. If people want your referral link, they will ask for it.

Tradehill is good but boring if you do day trading due to the lack of volume.

I really don't like Tradehill's  45$ Fee to transfer to an EU account, i trade in to little money for it to not eat up to much of my profit.

well, as long they cannot transfer EUR international at reasonable rates, Tradhill is out of scope.

BR
GC

I just got finished posting/making fun of MtGox.

I hope MtGox has learn their lesson.
The sad thing is that should have done better. Hopefully they are now going to do the right thing.

What makes anyone thing that Tradehill is better at security?

Is it because they haven't been breached yet? If so, that is wrong thinking.
The key word in that question is yet.

The best you can do is to protect yourself (e.g., good password, virus scan, etc.) and hope that your online provider is doing the right thing.

+1

That kind of transfer fee is insane !!!

Gox

Same. You also can and should report his referral code. Everyone that spams it like he just did gets their code blacklisted/disabled.

I'll take my chances with Gox.

Where do you see that sharing the code gets you blacklisted/disabled?

On the tradehill site it says  the Affiliate Program code "can be placed in ads, used on forums, sent in emails and a variety of other ways"

And if you change your mind use my code  :)

https://www.tradehill.com/?r=TH-R1347

From what I heard, Tradehill is out of Chile, while MtGox is out of Japan, so it makes you think.

Think what?  Racist thoughts? lol

If I were you I would never transfer all of my bitcoins to any ONE exchange. I was affected by the mtgox hack and luckily I had like half of my bitcoins in my possession. If mtgox went down for good and I had all of it in there that would have hurt pretty badly.

The only people that sign up for services that offer referrals are people who aren't going to spend their money anyway.

As opposed to the US or Australia, which makes you stare into space like a vegetable.

HI, iamnot
I wanated to register tradehill anywas so I just registered trough your link, your referal - you are a lucky guy!
I hope somebody does the same for me - here is my referal link:
https://www.tradehill.com/?r=TH-R110808

Thank you! ^_^

Both. Having alternatives is good.

If Mt. Gox manages to get up and running again, they should be much more secure than before. Talk about trial by fire.

Tradehill has not faced anything drastic, yet. Fingers crossed they will not have to.

it will be hacked again.  i give it 2 weeks max.

i think neither. There needs to be another better site made. mtgox has been compromised and its failing a disgrace to the bitcoin movement

<spam>

For those in Europe looking to cashout, spendbitcoins.com works quite well. You get to buy stuff and not wait for transfers & shiznit and there are NO transaction fees.

</spam> <oh wait, still more spam to come in my signature... including a tradehill referral code. Mwahahaha>

Trade in both. Don't ditch MtGox just yet; they've been learning some invaluable lessons. Besides, there's an arbitrage opportunity with pretty good percentages between TradeHill and MtGox. Buy low in LRUSD at TradeHill and sell high at MtGox. 

I like MtGox, right  ::)

I'm using Mtgox.

Hi, I'm new to these exchanges, but so far I created an Mt Gox and a Tradehill account because I am desperate (yes desperate) to buy bitcoin in a safe way, at market rates.  However, for a Canadian, is a massive pain in the butt since no solid CAD exchanges exist yet with enough liquidity/efficiency to produce competitive market rates. I now have to go through hoops to get some USD in either exchange so that I can buy some BTC. My options right now are an LR account, or opening a free chequing account in a US eBank and then using Dwolla as the middle man between it and the exchanges.  Anyone else have a better idea?

-Mike

I'm using Tradehill and dont have any complaints thus far. There a few nice to haves that is lacking but is supposedly coming in the next release so lets see :)

What's about bitcoin7.com? Does anyone make some experience with?

Well I don't know where you all are at but in the US tradehill is stuck on paxum which I don't know about but it wants
$50 to deposit funds into it....  screw that.  Was going to give tradehill a chance and figured it would be better because
paxum is based in Canada but Dwolla seems better than paxum.  The whole thing is an entire slow pain in the ass with excessive costs.

I have been pretty happy with my 3 cash outs at tradehill. That was before the dwolla incident anyway.When I needed help logging in (signed up a long time ago, but didn't use the account for a few months) they were quick to help me retrieve my username/password via email and quite courteous.

I don't know about the Dwolla incident I'll have to check into it.


So are you saying you like paxum? Because it looks shady, expensive, and like they want ENTIRELY too much information for some company that I have no clue about.

sorry, how i can add referal code of someone to have 10% discount on trades?i click on the link http://www.tradehill.com/?r=... but i'm redirect to my account page
thank you very much

I don't think you can add it to an existing account. You'll have to open a new account for the discount.

I use Mt. Gox as well.

i use mt gox.

i opened a tradehill account a while back, but it has never been used.

I use ExchangeB for fast service since dwolla is slow.

I moved from TR to Mtgox just because dwolla still with mtgox and the transfer back and forth take only a few mins

Moved from Mt.Gox to TradeHill because TradeHill has SEPA transfers and the possibility to trade in EUR.

But Mt.Gox plattform is better, although slower because of the volume and traffic.

UPDATE:

Well I signed up for all three. Did some small trading and tests on MtGox and all was fine.. have no opinion on tradehill because I'm not using paxum I don't like it. Signed up and am giving a test run of ExchangeB tomorrow and will let you know if their cash deposit system works and is a fast an reliable as they say it is.  If it is, it seems to be the best option for U.S. bitcoin holders currently.

MTGOX has volume. Tradehill is kinda of dry. Mtgox also moves the market......tradehill follows.

Problem is the dwolla middle makes things SLOW for MtGox and I don't trust keeping large amounts of cash or bitcoins there. Want to do the trade and move em in or out - i think we have all learned our lessons from that.

I just deposited cash with ExchB we will see how fast they really are and if they are reliable.  Seems a bit sketchy meaning you don't have a user name or account on the deposit.. you just send them a scan of the receipt but what if many users deposit the same amount from similar locations?  Anyway so I deposited a very strange number to hopefully move it through fast.
That was about a half hour ago 9:30 am NYC business time let's see how fast they respond.  If they are fast they have my business.

 

I have been using Mt. Gox and Dwolla since May.  Never had any major problems with either.  In fact, it is only gotten better.  It used to take several hours for a transfer from Dwolla to hit my Mt. Gox account.  Now, it is around 10 minutes.  Same with withdrawls from Mt. Gox to Dwolla.  Never a problem executing trades on Gox either... always got my price.  Sometimees Mt. Gox does run slow, but then I am not a day trader either.

The Dwolla to Gox wasn't bad but the bank to Dwolla and Dwolla to bank is slow as all hell.

Anyway I am happy to report a very good experience so far with exchangebitcoins.com

Deposited cash in the morning at a chase bank down the block,  scanned and e-mailed them the receipt and my user info, and had the funds within a few hours, bought some bitcoins, and had them fairly fast.  So as far as I know for anyone in the U.S. this is currently the only way if you have cash and you want bitcoins for something now, you can get it in under a day.  I give them thumbs up.

Prices are going low so I bought a chunk.  Someone's dumping.

Tradehill is the best if you live in Europe imho :)

Have you tried CampBX? They are US based and they have been growing steadily during the last months. If you decide to give them a shot, sign up through here (https://CampBX.com/register.php?r=61sr34YTOMs) to get a lifetime 10% discount :)

For Europeans, definitely TradeHill. Mtgox's SEPA transfers have been offline for over a month...

Does campBX have the same several hour turn around for U.S. based? It was seriusly fast I deposited at about 9:30 had funds at around 11:30.  I assume they are doing this manually now since they are a small operation but that's hella convenient.  No high charges either.. just a buck.

Why not just keep on your bitcoins on your own personal wallet on your pc?

I do, and I back the wallet.dat up to an offline usb stick and delete and start new so I have a bunch of little savings wallets of BTC, but this is for when say - I want to buy or sell to either make some cash from my BTC or buy up a bunch of BTC when they drop to low prices....
 
As it stands you were screwed unless you had a balance on one of the sites, but with ExchB you can get money in and buy BTC fast.
 
I haven't tried selling and seeing how far they are with cashing out I'll let you know how that goes.

I use MTgox, never had any problems.

i use neither. craigslist for the win lol.

I'd like to second Craigslist, it's been fun meeting local members of the BTC community. When it comes to volume I still go with MTGox.

Haven't tried craigslist... it has turned to shit mostly saturated with spamomatica.

+ 1

Gox has much bigger volume

I like tradehill.

Mt. Gox has more volume and tradehill has a better rep IMO.

Honestly, the MtGox site looks very unprofessional to me.
I created an account there, but never actually used it, because as far as I know, you cannot get Euro paid out from MtGox.
At the moment I use TradeHill, and I like it.

I like the amount of discussion here!

Some very good points have been raised. Mt Gox may have more volume, however it has also been around for longer and TradeHill is certainly catching up, it may take a while before Mt Gox and TH have a comparable volume but TH has made sure first and foremost that its security is top of the line and has a long-term view of the bitcoin market and as such has implemented schemes to incorporate more currencies, as well as top notch security and identity verification. Also yes, we got rid of the referral program. Also if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

Enjoy!

Unless you're a big-time trader then Tradehill is just fine for you.  Better customer service beats Mt. Gox's size hands down.

What do you mean by you got rid of the referral program? There is no referral program anymore? There is no hint on the Tradehill page on that.

My mistake, looks like it's still up and running. This raises a good point however, what is the general feel about the referral program? Do you like/dislike the program?

I like the other point it raises, what is the reason you thought the referral program for the site you work for was gone? lol

About a month ago we were discussing getting rid of it and last I heard that was the case, apparently the powers that be must have reconsidered. I don't handle that side of the business, I deal with the security, identity verification, customer support and transactions side of the AUD market. Just shows that we're human I guess!

Used MtGox this morning and all went very smoothly and quickly. I'll give tradehill a try next. The site does 'look' better.

I'd rather leave bank & personal details out of it tbh.I'm looking to invest $5K in coins, doing so anonymously. Not sure I'm willing to give either a go.

Used both, all in all, I went with MTGox because of the larger trade volume.  Both had smooth transfers to Dwolla for me.

It appears to us that people aren't keen to supply their personal information to us so that we can verify them to avoid fraud. How would people feel if they were able to verify themselves, i.e. input your details to GDC, the same system that ANZ bank uses to verify it's clients, straight off the TH website and be verified instantly?

I think I'll use TradeHill and Mtgox depending on when the prices are good, but mainly mt gox. There's a reason they're number one I think

I was part of a private darkpool back in the day. While the darkpool has long since gone, quite a few of us still chat to each other on irc, and we often make private sales to each other on there. Each member of that irc channel is known and trusted. I haven't used MtGox since they were hacked, and I don't trust Tradehill yet.

Been using MtGox since shortly after all the big hacks happened and they beefed up security, just can't beat how quickly my coins sell on it compared to TH.

Do to recent scams, I look for an exchange based in the US.

Camp BX (https://campbx.com/main.php)?

Just did some large purchase on ExchB and very happy. All done within an hour or two not days.

We are looking forward to serving you at Mt.Gox.

Been with MtGox since day 1 and still very satisfied.

At the moment, neither MtGox nor Tradehill support SEPA deposits, so both suck for me now.
I hope they get this fixed soon..

MTGOX4EVAR

Did you mean MTGOXTILLITGETHACKEDAGAIN  ;D

I've had zero trouble with MTGox

Hi,

I started mining on June 2011 until I stopped mining on 15 BTCs. I've worked with tradehill since July 2011 and went by the usual method to increase my BTCs: buy cheap sell expensive and with that, last week I still had around 15 BTCs but also a profit of near 12 bucks, even with the drop of BTC value.

Two days ago I entered Tradehill to check after 2 days since my last login, my funds were down to zero! To make things worse (I thought it was just a glitch) the transaction log showed that my funds were used one day before to buy all the BTCs possible and then, the total amount of BTCs were withdrawed to this address: 194XZ7Jqm1BcLcevKyRSRaQrVP4aA4htEU

In other words, someone hacked my account and robbed all my money and BTCs. Of course, selling the bitcoins and transfer the money would be traceable but the other way is not. Now I have almost nothing and no one to blame.

Tradehill team has been in contact with me since I reported this but they cannot help me. I'm not writing this to discourage you using their service but you should be aware that this can happen to anyone and of course, if somebody knows that the owner of that bitcoin address has an account in tradehill also, I appreciate to report it to TH team.

as a n00b i just started buying some bitcoins and picked probably the worst exchange, wide spreads and low volume ... live n learn lol

just opened a tradehill account, they have tighter spreads and better prices. hopefully better service.

for now im just learning how it all works, havent actually spent any bcs yet. might try some trading between exchanges to earn some extra bcs for fun but i'm anly talking tiny amounts here.

definitely mtgox

Mtgox is in Japan, Tradehill is in Chile.

Mtgox trades 80-95% per day, depending of high or low volume day. On high volume days mtgox reaches up to 95%

Liquidity is a good thing, but I think it's a little strange that a decentralized currency relies so much in one company. I like to support the alternatives.

I had no complains with TH until happened what happened... Now I'm afraid of losing more BTCs, no matter where I sell/buy them.

What happened?

Look 6 or 7 posts above this one...

If somesone would have hacked Tradhill, then multiple, if not all users would have lost their money, but instead, only your account is affected.
If you think a little bit about it, it is clear that somebody had your password.
Maybe it was to easy to guess or to find out with brute force trial and error. Maybe you used the same password in another service or website which got hacked. Maybe you had the password stored in your browser and someone had physical accesss to your computer?

Maybe with this information you may spot your very own security hole and fix it, so that this doesn't happen to you again.

Btw. With the bitcoin block explorer you can see where transactions are going, but this is rather complicated and chances that you find the thief that way are rather small.

Hello
I have two still not completed paxum withdraw from Mt.Gox.
14.10.2011. =488$
24.10.2011. =258$

HAve an opent ticket submited 8 days ago with no response!!
Ticket number: 13803

I have try with many emails to get support with no response.

Please help me, I need funds unrgently.

UPDATE
MtGox completed both withdraw, thanks.

Yeah, I know, It's not that TH was hacked, but what bothers me is that I'm not a big BTC user with lots of BTCs mined or something like that. I started as another guy in the bitcoin thing and didn't get so much. It pisses me off being bullied just because someone can do it.

But still, it would be very interesting, how your account got hacked.
Which of the points I gave you could you answer with true?

I like MtGox more than Tradehill

Well, let's see:
Somebody could have stolen my password? hard to accomplish. I work inside a corporate intranet and behind a firewall most of the time. No one in my company as far as I know are into BTC trading.
At home, I scan my computers once or twice a week for spyware and virus and don't use IE. In fact, the computer that holds my wallet is not the one used for trading is another one and the mining rig is another one. BTW I pulled the plug for the rig like 2 months ago. I put online the bitcoin program only to update my BTC balance.

It's true that my browser had my password but then again, I'm just a tiny part of the TH market. I'm sure that several people has their browsers set to save passwords and probably 10 times more BTCs than I.

My password has more than 10 characters. Brute force attack is possible but the effort would be too much for just 17 BTCs...

Anyway, s*it happened. Now I'm sure to log off all my accounts before closing the browser and will only enter smaller amounts to test the security. Also, the TH guys have taken my suggestion about use a link to confirm withdrawals or transfers between accounts sent to the e-mail with a time deadline to accept the transaction. I hope they add this feature soon.

I don't understand why this isn't an option. It has been mentioned several times, but Bitmarket is the only exchange that does this as far as I know.

I had very good experiences with Tradehill and Sepa so far, I really hope they get this Sepa-issue fixed because I'm not going to trust any of the other exchanges any time soon. Not even Intersango. Just too afraid they will end up being a scam like the "BS"7 or an epic fail in competence as the Polish exchange that accidently lost its wallet in spacetime.

Best,

d.

Mining at 2235 Mhash/s at Slush's Pool.

Putting all trades on Tradehill or MtGox wont help with innovation. What happens if the large ones get hacked and completely emptied? Do you honestly believe they'll reimburse you anything? Minimze the risk and only keep with the exchanges what you are willing to loose.

I am fine with either exchange.  Both are secure.  Mt. Gox is more battle tested than Tradehill. Hackers lay awake at night (or day) trying to figure out how to hack Mt. Gox again.  With all the cash and Bitcoins they have on hand, Gox is a very lucrative target.  I have queried Mt. Gox a number of times on their security measures and have always received prompt and satisfactory answers.  In the Wild West of Bitcoins, Mt. Gox is a "Ft. Gox" of Bitcoin exchanges.