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Title: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: RichG on June 06, 2013, 02:58:29 AM
The combination of 5 posts and 4 hours of time spent browsing is to weed out spambots and trolls.

If you don't like it, the rest of us (jr., full, sr., hero, mods) don't care.

We all like clean forums, don't we?


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Wotan777 on June 06, 2013, 12:13:57 PM
Yeah, but the 4 hoour limit seems to be too high!


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: smies on June 06, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
Sounds fair to me!


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: https on June 06, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
I agree


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Ecologisto on June 06, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
I would just add that someone having read the forums for dozen of hours (like me) should be allowed to write in any forum. I suddenly need to reply to a thread and can't even though I have followed this forum for more than a year.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: devalnor on June 06, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Logical -_-


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: tearfereon on June 06, 2013, 01:04:37 PM
The consequence - I like many of these low level posts to get jr. account are keept in newbie section


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: benm on June 06, 2013, 01:11:05 PM
My only issue with the current system is that I spend most of my time lurking on various forums, subreddits, hackernews, etc. I've been following several threads here, mostly ASICMINER and Friedcat, but also auctions and other stuff. Today I came across something I wanted to add to in a meaningful way, realized I didn't have an account, then had to go through the process.

It seems OK though - I just need to pick up a plugin for chrome that autorefreshes the page for 5 hours...


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: DUMmy97531 on June 06, 2013, 01:19:51 PM
it would be  helpful if there is some form of more visible notification for newbees. I have also followed this forum for more than a month only to realise now that I have to have 5 posts and 4 hours.

Any PM or banner for newbees?


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: recypha on June 06, 2013, 01:22:08 PM
I can only second this. I have been following the forum but only recently joined.
I too do like clean forums but now I will need to virtually spam the forum:
instead of replying to an existing thread with meaningful content now my 2cents will be separate in newbie section.
hmm
I'll get over it i guess :)


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: dracula3 on June 06, 2013, 02:17:53 PM
This seems logical. I have seen many forums ruined by the bots. So, lets wait little bit...


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Entimp on June 06, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
Seems fine by me, just need to make 5 decent comments now.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Alexander The Great on June 06, 2013, 02:32:47 PM
The combination of 5 posts and 4 hours of time spent browsing is to weed out spambots and trolls.

If you don't like it, the rest of us (jr., full, sr., hero, mods) don't care.

We all like clean forums, don't we?

RichG you registered january 23 of 2013 and looks like you've been spamming messages. Your post count makes you no better. And your still more of a noob then me. Been around Bitcoin since 2010 and own 300 BTC what about you?


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: makineta on June 06, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
Ok mercy


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Alexander The Great on June 06, 2013, 02:37:12 PM
I dont think this 5 posts 4 hour rule is any good its a pain in the ass and spammers/scammers are still going to make accounts.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Illimensky on June 06, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
I dont think this 5 posts 4 hour rule is any good its a pain in the ass and spammers/scammers are still going to make accounts.

The 4 hours, especially, makes it even more of a pain in the a** for scammers.  Most scammers are going to be too lazy to go through the process of setting up an account, making 5 posts, and reading the forum for 4 hours.

You also overlook the point that the 5 posts / 4 hours rule also helps with the purpose of making new uses familiar with the forums.  This system cuts down on duplicate messages, since the new user has been able to read more posts on the forum.

As you said, scammers are still going to make accounts, but they won't be able to post on them.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Alexander The Great on June 06, 2013, 02:52:06 PM
I dont think this 5 posts 4 hour rule is any good its a pain in the ass and spammers/scammers are still going to make accounts.

The 4 hours, especially, makes it even more of a pain in the a** for scammers.  Most scammers are going to be too lazy to go through the process of setting up an account, making 5 posts, and reading the forum for 4 hours.

You also overlook the point that the 5 posts / 4 hours rule also helps with the purpose of making new uses familiar with the forums.  This system cuts down on duplicate messages, since the new user has been able to read more posts on the forum.

As you said, scammers are still going to make accounts, but they won't be able to post on them.

I still dont like it.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: ironcross360 on June 06, 2013, 02:55:52 PM
The combination of 5 posts and 4 hours of time spent browsing is to weed out spambots and trolls.

If you don't like it, the rest of us (jr., full, sr., hero, mods) don't care.

We all like clean forums, don't we?
The problem is the forum doesnt want any spammers or New Age wotanist.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: darkryoushii on June 06, 2013, 02:58:15 PM
I'm with everyone else, I don't like it because of the situation I'm in at the moment where I have to wait to ask an important question to TAT about my securities.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: hatted on June 06, 2013, 03:00:08 PM
I like clean forums.  ;D


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Illimensky on June 06, 2013, 03:04:16 PM
I like clean forums.  ;D

Completely agreed.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: rolloffacliffpleaseanddie on June 06, 2013, 03:19:21 PM
Id prefer to do away with Bitcoin jail


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: gramma on June 06, 2013, 03:40:53 PM
I still dont like it.

I didn't like it either.  I, too, had been popping in and out over the last couple of years, but didn't feel I had anything really to contribute, so I didn't.  Then came the time that I REALLY wanted in on a conversation... so I ran into newbie jail, too.  Hated it.  Toughed it out.  You can do it too.  It sucks.  Wait until you see the various things available only to people with a certain longevity.  Just today, someone giving away licenses to MS product, but only to people who registered before I did.

I call it my lurker tax, or lurker penalty.  As a long-term lurker I was really a taker for a couple of years before giving back, however modestly.  Welcome to the boat.

Keep reading - you'll have your 4 hours soon enough.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: bilsef on June 06, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
I don't like it, but I understand why we have it.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: davidrools on June 06, 2013, 05:21:43 PM
Even as a newbie, I like it. Hell, it could be 50 posts and 5 weeks. I think the quality of the content is a reason so many lurk and don't even need to post to ask questions.

Though, if the point is to prevent spambots, couldn't a bot get around this?


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: mitman on June 06, 2013, 06:41:08 PM
only 55 minutes for me and then i will be free!


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: quetzacoatl on June 06, 2013, 07:12:16 PM
With this 5th post I have to only wait an hour to post outside newbies, yay!


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: zulufields on June 06, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
still got a long way to go


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: bublus7 on June 06, 2013, 07:52:02 PM
This is my 5th post... but still 2 more hours to go...  ;D


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: kagsc on June 06, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
Second post, 4 hours remaining! At least we are still able to lurk around.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Salwilliam on June 06, 2013, 11:12:56 PM
I like clean forums.  ;D

Completely agreed.

I agree.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: thegamekind on June 06, 2013, 11:15:09 PM
with the amount of posts and people here is no wonder why this rule is in place


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: spike420211 on June 07, 2013, 12:15:34 AM
it's more of a problem with the four hours' time.
You actually have to have the browser OPEN to the forum that long [so it appears].


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Dasneko on June 07, 2013, 12:25:35 AM
...
Has no one learned a damn thing about hackers, pirates and spammers online? Stupid setups like this will not "stop them" and I have not even gotten into how you treat everyone like those scum and waste our time. Its a DRM for Forums and I for one think its retarded.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: freq on June 07, 2013, 12:33:52 AM
Its keeping me from joining group buys.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Alexander The Great on June 07, 2013, 01:02:57 AM
i like clean forums


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: JimCGSavings on June 07, 2013, 01:15:56 AM
It's no big deal. Spam your 5 posts in the newbie area replying to hello posts.  Then go to hardware and read up on how to setup your own miner (researching the parts and costs) until you find out that the gpu cards are being obsoleted by ASIC miners that you're in too late to get in on. That'll take about 4 hours. (grin)


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Eva Braun on June 07, 2013, 02:00:31 AM
There are no viable good reasons for newbie jail..


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Bitcollector on June 08, 2013, 08:11:02 AM
The combination of 5 posts and 4 hours of time spent browsing is to weed out spambots and trolls.

If you don't like it, the rest of us (jr., full, sr., hero, mods) don't care.

We all like clean forums, don't we?

Yes, accept it took me 2.5 hours to find this post so I could make a post to help me on my way to being able to answer somebody. i new their was limitation, but could find it.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Breen2543 on June 08, 2013, 09:02:45 AM
I like this rules.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: randomcloud on June 08, 2013, 09:15:05 AM
You're really not going to stop someone determined enough to screw up your forums with a stupid scheme like this.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: sisyphe on June 08, 2013, 08:13:58 PM
With this system I have to write useless posts, like this one...


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Harryman on June 08, 2013, 08:49:29 PM
I agree


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: alphacoin on June 08, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
Yes it is a good idea


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Biggen on June 08, 2013, 09:42:49 PM
+1


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Boman on June 09, 2013, 11:34:53 PM
I'm agreeing too.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: Dasneko on June 09, 2013, 11:55:25 PM
If anything it creates a very poor culture in the newbiew forums that later gets imported into the rest of the forum after the post and hour limitation. Just look at all the spam answers people give just to pad their total.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: pleasuretek on June 10, 2013, 05:34:29 AM
long time lurker, first time poster...  I appreciate this system. A lot of people want to hit the ground running without rtfm, then post crap cause they don't know what is what they just strut.... wtf.
Been mining for a while, joined just to get in on the auction action.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: PicassoRoll on June 10, 2013, 06:03:33 AM
It serves two-fold: weed out the spammers/BOTS, and also encourages discussion from new members. I like the system as it stands.


Title: Re: The reason for the 5 posts/4 hrs rule
Post by: tlo on June 10, 2013, 06:17:44 AM
I understand the 4h rule. But why 5 posts? Everybody (also a bot) can post some random messages...