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Title: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 06, 2013, 05:53:52 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, the Custodian of Records shall produce to the
National Security Agency (NSA) upon service of this Order, and continue production
on an ongoing daily basis thereafter
for the duration of this Order, unless otherwise
ordered by the Court, an electronic copy of the following tangible things: all call detail
records or "telephony metadata" created by Verizon for communications
(i) between
the United States and abroad; or (ii) wholly within the United States, including local
telephone calls
. This Order does not require Verizon to produce telephony metadata
for communications wholly originating and terminating in foreign countries.
Telephony metadata includes comprehensive communications routing information,.
including but not limited to session identifying information (e.g., originating and
terminating telephone number, International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) number,
International Mobile station Equipment Identity (IMEI) number, etc.), trunk identifier,
telephone calling card numbers, and time and duration of call.

...

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBIor NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order
, other than to:
(a) those persons to whom disclosure is necessary to comply with such Order; (b) an
attorney to obtain legal advice or assistance with respect to the production of things in
response to the Order; or (c) other persons as permitted by the Director of the FBI or the
Director's designee. A person to whom disclosure is made pursuant to (a), (b), or (c)


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: wdmw on June 06, 2013, 05:35:01 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBI or NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order


You are in violation, sir.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: wtfvanity on June 06, 2013, 06:02:32 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, the Custodian of Records shall produce to the
National Security Agency (NSA) upon service of this Order, and continue production
on an ongoing daily basis thereafter
for the duration of this Order, unless otherwise
ordered by the Court, an electronic copy of the following tangible things: all call detail
records or "telephony metadata" created by Verizon for communications
(i) between
the United States and abroad; or (ii) wholly within the United States, including local
telephone calls
. This Order does not require Verizon to produce telephony metadata
for communications wholly originating and terminating in foreign countries.
Telephony metadata includes comprehensive communications routing information,.
including but not limited to session identifying information (e.g., originating and
terminating telephone number, International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) number,
International Mobile station Equipment Identity (IMEI) number, etc.), trunk identifier,
telephone calling card numbers, and time and duration of call.

...

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBIor NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order
, other than to:
(a) those persons to whom disclosure is necessary to comply with such Order; (b) an
attorney to obtain legal advice or assistance with respect to the production of things in
response to the Order; or (c) other persons as permitted by the Director of the FBI or the
Director's designee. A person to whom disclosure is made pursuant to (a), (b), or (c)

Wow. It says calls specifically, but I'd be curious if text messages are included, or are part of a separate order.

Wonder what the requests to ISP's and such ask for.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: AzureEngineer on June 06, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
The U.S. government is all about freedom. It thinks it is delicious and gobbles it up whenever available.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: myrkul on June 06, 2013, 07:19:01 PM
The U.S. government is all about freedom. It thinks it is delicious and gobbles it up whenever available.
+1


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: TheButterZone on June 06, 2013, 10:43:35 PM
Government has been tapping phones for decades; Lily Tomlin's Laugh-In character Ernestine resonated because AT&T's complicity was exposed at the time. As long as government exists, your civil rights will be violated by it with effective impunity.


Title: ANOTHER BREAKING NEWS
Post by: Wilikon on June 06, 2013, 11:15:04 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html

U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

......The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time.

The highly classified program, code-named PRISM, has not been disclosed publicly before. Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy. Even late last year, when critics of the foreign intelligence statute argued for changes, the only members of Congress who know about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues. …

The technology companies, which participate knowingly in PRISM operations, include most of the dominant global players of Silicon Valley. They are listed on a roster that bears their logos in order of entry into the program: “Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.” PalTalk, although much smaller, has hosted significant traffic during the Arab Spring and in the ongoing Syrian civil war.

......But the PRISM program appears more nearly to resemble the most controversial of the warrantless surveillance orders issued by President George W. Bush after the al-Qaeda attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Its history, in which President Obama presided over “exponential growth” in a program that candidate Obama criticized, shows how fundamentally surveillance law and practice have shifted away from individual suspicion in favor of systematic, mass collection techniques.

The PRISM program is not a dragnet, exactly. From inside a company’s data stream the NSA is capable of pulling out anything it likes, but under current rules the agency does not try to collect it all.

Analysts who use the system from a Web portal at Fort Meade key in “selectors,” or search terms, that are designed to produce at least 51 percent confidence in a target’s “foreignness.” That is not a very stringent test. Training materials obtained by the Post instruct new analysts to submit accidentally collected U.S. content for a quarterly report, “but it’s nothing to worry about.”

......An internal presentation on the Silicon Valley operation, intended for senior analysts in the NSA’s Signals Intelligence Directorate, described the new tool as the most prolific contributor to the President’s Daily Brief, which cited PRISM data in 1,477 articles last year. According to the briefing slides, obtained by The Washington Post, “NSA reporting increasingly relies on PRISM” as its leading source of raw material, accounting for nearly 1 in 7 intelligence reports.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: PerfectAgent on June 07, 2013, 12:53:26 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBI or NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order


You are in violation, sir.

You too, seeing as you quoted that statement on a public forum.  :P


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: pekv2 on June 07, 2013, 01:50:10 PM
They are trolling for google searches from what I heard. This is the absolute reason why you should use VPN + https://ixquick.com . I think you could even use google search with vpn, and they would come up empty.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: FoBoT on June 07, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
James R Clapper , head of NSA, is a traitor to humanity


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: peonminer on June 07, 2013, 08:10:35 PM
The U.S. government is all about freedom. It thinks it is delicious and gobbles it up whenever available.
lolololol


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: Stampbit on June 07, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
How exactly is this a threat to our freedom? If the government wanted to spy on you they could find out more than just what you said on the phone.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: farlack on June 07, 2013, 08:44:15 PM
They're only logging the time of the call, and the time it ended, not the audio.

Who cares, the searching for bomb on google, and saying bomb on the phone doesn't trigger anything so its assumed to be safe to talk on the phone.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: Mike Christ on June 07, 2013, 09:42:34 PM
How exactly is this a threat to our freedom? If the government wanted to spy on you they could find out more than just what you said on the phone.

Agreed.  Government itself is a threat to our freedom, this is just another side-effect.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: Spendulus on June 08, 2013, 01:30:45 AM
They're only logging the time of the call, and the time it ended, not the audio.

Who cares, the searching for bomb on google, and saying bomb on the phone doesn't trigger anything so its assumed to be safe to talk on the phone.

Who said anything about bomb?  Wrong presumption.  Say the party in power is X, and you are an avid follower of party Y.  One hundred primary leaders of Y are identified, then tracebacks for two years are done as follows.

Those who communicated with Y, designate Y1
Those who communicated with Y1, designate Y2
Those who communicated with Y2, designate Y3

Now search for comm between Y2, Y1 and Y3 and use a threshold of activity, build a list of those who have activity in Y group above that threshold.  Send list to IRS for punishment.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: Spendulus on June 08, 2013, 01:32:16 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBI or NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order


You are in violation, sir.

You too, seeing as you quoted that statement on a public forum.  :P
What is curious is that the companies that have publicly denied this, such as Google and Verizon, did not just on being asked the question reply "No Comment."


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: mprep on June 09, 2013, 10:28:06 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBI or NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order


You are in violation, sir.

You too, seeing as you quoted that statement on a public forum.  :P
What is curious is that the companies that have publicly denied this, such as Google and Verizon, did not just on being asked the question reply "No Comment."
If they admitted it then it would ruin their rep.


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: Spendulus on June 09, 2013, 05:56:10 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBI or NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order


You are in violation, sir.

You too, seeing as you quoted that statement on a public forum.  :P
What is curious is that the companies that have publicly denied this, such as Google and Verizon, did not just on being asked the question reply "No Comment."
If they admitted it then it would ruin their rep.
Sounds like what was called in gangster parlance a "made man", eg , some honest guy that got blackmailed, honeytrapped or otherwise made into a member of the gangsters.

So evil has spread?


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: craslovell on June 10, 2013, 12:52:23 AM
https://i.imgur.com/kOyTl0t.jpg


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: FlappySocks on June 10, 2013, 01:08:12 AM
Have you all seen the Edward Snowden video?  Scary.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance


Title: Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records
Post by: Equilux on June 10, 2013, 06:15:19 PM
Have you all seen the Edward Snowden video?  Scary.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

Holy shit, very nice. Thanks for sharing