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Title: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: No 1 on June 07, 2013, 04:43:58 AM
Da fuq?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2336425/Scientists-create-device-tears-hole-time-enabling-undetectable-secret-messages-sent.html



Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: Foxpup on June 07, 2013, 06:03:09 AM
It's not really a hole in time, they're just slowing down and then speeding up photons so that to an outside observer it appears* that the photons have briefly ceased to exist and they'll be all like, "Whoa, where'd they go?" No doubt this has really cool applications for secure communications and whatnot, but it does not "tear a hole in time". ::)

*Actually, they don't just appear to not exist, they have ceased to exist temporarily (sort of), and cannot be observed or interacted with in any way. Relativity is funny like that.

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In theory a thief could use time cloaking techniques to enter a building, steal cash or valuables and exit before their image was recorded on security cameras.
??? Um, no, they couldn't. The reporter is confusing people with subatomic particles again. It's a surprisingly common mistake (they did it with quantum teleportation, too), although I really don't understand how anyone could make it in the first place. A person is nothing like a subatomic particle! Why would anyone even think that?


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: mprep on June 09, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
Da fuq?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2336425/Scientists-create-device-tears-hole-time-enabling-undetectable-secret-messages-sent.html


OK, that's creepy.


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: counter on June 09, 2013, 12:23:05 PM
I won't claim to fully understand this stuff but what if they could "convert" this kind of technology to advanced crafts or are currently doing so.  :o


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: Elwar on June 09, 2013, 03:11:33 PM
A person is nothing like a subatomic particle!

Speak for yourself.


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: Inedible on June 09, 2013, 03:14:32 PM
For those not in the UK, the Daily Mail is a bit of a trashy newspaper.


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: kodo on June 13, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
Wow this is interesting! science is so interesting only time will tell how the future looks..


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: TheGovernedSelf on June 13, 2013, 07:49:57 PM
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In theory a thief could use time cloaking techniques to enter a building, steal cash or valuables and exit before their image was recorded on security cameras.
??? Um, no, they couldn't. The reporter is confusing people with subatomic particles again. It's a surprisingly common mistake (they did it with quantum teleportation, too), although I really don't understand how anyone could make it in the first place. A person is nothing like a subatomic particle! Why would anyone even think that?

Hiding single electrons for 0.00012 seconds is the same as making a human being invisible for several minutes, right?  ???

It seems like a reasonable leap in logic to me!


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: RagnarDanneskjold on June 15, 2013, 01:44:54 PM
In the real world, these types of 'temporal cloaks' and similar photonic time trickery are used to achieve wide band visibility into the immediate future for precision sensing/targeting/navigation for satellites and other fast moving equipment.

Where it gets interesting is when these temporal anomalies are cascaded together to create a chain or echo chamber, then we could be talking about some serious time vision capabilities.

So , if you could see 30 seconds or a minute into the future, what would you want to see? (other than the price of X)


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: Elwar on June 15, 2013, 03:08:20 PM
In the real world, these types of 'temporal cloaks' and similar photonic time trickery are used to achieve wide band visibility into the immediate future for precision sensing/targeting/navigation for satellites and other fast moving equipment.

Where it gets interesting is when these temporal anomalies are cascaded together to create a chain or echo chamber, then we could be talking about some serious time vision capabilities.

So , if you could see 30 seconds or a minute into the future, what would you want to see? (other than the price of X)

Girl's slumber party right before the pillow fight breaks out?


Title: Re: Scientist tear a hole in time!
Post by: Jobe7 on June 15, 2013, 06:00:20 PM
For those not in the UK, the Daily Mail is a bit of a trashy newspaper.

This.