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Title: and patent trolls strike Post by: the founder on June 07, 2013, 03:40:56 PM A quick Google Patent Search shows that their are dozens of patents involving Bitcoin.
Many apply to gaming and Bitcoin, for example this appears to be a patent regarding a Satoshi Dice type game. This guys want to monopolize the idea of buying books with bitcoins. http://www.adaptiveglass.com/?p=787 Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 07, 2013, 03:44:08 PM For those who don't like link bait from authors to their own "articles". (It always bothered me a bit that Roger Wehb aka "The Founder" would always link to his own blog posts, announcing them in the second person as if they were news items he just discovered. Really Roger, it's creepy. Cut it out.)
Quote A quick Google Patent Search (http://www.google.com/?tbm=pts#tbm=pts&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22bitcoin%22&oq=%22bitcoin%22&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.422905.424573.1.424776.2.2.0.0.0.0.102.191.1j1.2.0...0.0...1c.1.16.psy-ab.9r4RGLRethA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47534661,d.dmQ&fp=a812d3e00a09b06d&biw=1301&bih=589) shows that their are dozens of patents involving Bitcoin. Many apply to gaming and Bitcoin, for example this appears to be a patent (http://www.google.com/patents/US8449378?dq=bitcoin&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hfyxUY7GNqj00gHQ9oGoAQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA) regarding a Satoshi Dice type game. This guys want to monopolize the idea (http://www.google.com/patents/US20130085945?dq=bitcoin&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vf2xUaWGLunA0gGvjYCACQ&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBTgK) of buying books with bitcoins. These guys want to monopolize the idea of subscriptions in bitcoin (http://www.google.com/patents/US20120101886?pg=PA13&dq=%22bitcoin%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Vv6xUc3cKqq90gGN_IGIAw&ved=0CGQQ6AEwBzgU). The end result is a few of them listed in that patent search could already be labeled patent trolls, as the concepts and implimentations have been out there from before their patent submission. Enjoy the new reality. Bitcoin is going to be the next patent war. If anyone else would like to search Google for patent documents, use https://www.google.com/?tbm=pts (3 pages for keyword "bitcoin") US specific: http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html (2 items for keyword "bitcoin") It is pretty hilarious that some people would think that registering patents in relation to bitcoin-- something used mostly anonymously by people who enjoy breaking the law as a form of protest-- would somehow stop bitcoiners from doing..well, anything they're already doing. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 03:49:47 PM For those who don't like link bait from authors to their own "articles". (It always bothered me a bit that Roger Wehb aka "The Founder" would always link to his own blog posts, announcing them in the second person as if they were news items he just discovered. Really Roger, it's creepy. Cut it out.) No, no, let him do it. It's useful to remind me to never trust him or anything he writes. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: the founder on June 07, 2013, 03:53:02 PM Why do you guys both discredit what I publish, then at the same time start commenting and discussing it?
The facts are that people are filing patents, to what end I am not sure, but I am guessing they are up to no good. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 03:54:35 PM Why do you guys both discredit what I publish, then at the same time start commenting and discussing it? Are you seeing words in my post that I'm not seeing? It would explain so much. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: the founder on June 07, 2013, 03:55:29 PM I was talking about your other username, Matt Wright.
Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 03:56:27 PM I was talking about your other username, Matt Wright. Oh, that one. Yeah, I'm inconsistent with that one. Gotta hand it to you. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 07, 2013, 03:57:25 PM Why do you guys both discredit what I publish, then at the same time start commenting and discussing it? Are you seeing words in my post that I'm not seeing? It would explain so much. I'm discussing hawks now. Remember the old Anime show something like "Sky Hawks" where they wore what seemed like shitty halloween costumes and jumped around like speed racer, talking too fast? That's what I think of everytime I see your name greyhawk. Someone jumping around like speed racer and talking too fast. Next thing we know we'll find a dead child and chimp in your trunk. Interesting note, "hawk" is an expression in Korea that means basically "holy shit". For the language learning inclined, I'll use it in a sentence. "헉, 그는 미쳐졌네~" Roughly translates to "Holy shit, he's lost his mind." Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 03:58:23 PM Why do you guys both discredit what I publish, then at the same time start commenting and discussing it? Are you seeing words in my post that I'm not seeing? It would explain so much. I'm discussing hawks now. Remember the old Anime show something like "Sky Hawks" where they wore what seemed like shitty halloween costumes and jumped around like speed racer, talking too fast? That's what I think of everytime I see your name greyhawk. Someone jumping around like speed racer and talking too fast. Next thing we know we'll find a dead child and chimp in your trunk. Interesting note, "hawk" is an expression in Korea that means basically "holy shit". 헉. Why would you tell me that. I know that. You're my alt after all. ??? Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: misterbigg on June 07, 2013, 04:44:43 PM I was talking about your other username, Matt Wright. gayhawk is Matt Wright? Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 04:48:56 PM I was talking about your other username, Matt Wright. gayhawk is Matt Wright? Oh, come on. You missed the opportunity to call me a hog as in gayhog. I can't work like this. :-\ Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: misterbigg on June 07, 2013, 05:29:29 PM Oh, come on. You missed the opportunity to call me a hog as in gayhog. I can't work like this. :-\ Fucking AUTOCORRECT ugh!!!!!!!! Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 05:40:38 PM Install swiftkey. Problem solved. ;)
Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 07, 2013, 05:53:08 PM Install swiftkey. Problem solved. ;) I couldn't use Swiftkey on my Android tablet. It lagged far too much. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 05:56:20 PM Install swiftkey. Problem solved. ;) I couldn't use Swiftkey on my Android tablet. It lagged far too much. You can't disagree with me. We're supposed to be the same person. People will think we've got multiple personality disorder. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: tom_o on June 07, 2013, 05:59:36 PM Topic? GTF back on it or GTFO?
Back to OP, interesting but not surprising. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: greyhawk on June 07, 2013, 06:10:54 PM Topic? GTF back on it or GTFO? You're not the boss of me, Dad. *storms out, slams door* >:( Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: tom_o on June 07, 2013, 07:01:17 PM Topic? GTF back on it or GTFO? You're not the boss of me, Dad. *storms out, slams door* >:( Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: Mike Christ on June 07, 2013, 07:51:09 PM So this is how one logs enough posts to be come a Hero Member! No, this is: Interesting. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: Shad3dOne on June 08, 2013, 01:57:00 AM o rly?
...interesting. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: Littleshop on June 08, 2013, 02:43:10 AM This patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=bitcoin&OS=bitcoin&RS=bitcoin Is a prime example of what is wrong with both the USPO and the patent system itself. This was patented AFTER multiple gaming systems were using the described method. A simple google search would show that. Now a big company owns this patent and would sue any small player using this system and the cost of fighting would be more then what most small companies can afford. This causes two (at least) problems. The first is nearly automatic, companies wishing to do something similar will simply locate overseas from the US. This causes the US economic damage by eliminating the free market. The second problem of course in my opinion is that patent should not have been granted in the first place because of prior art. The patent itself is unjust even if you believe in the patent system. And a small company would NOT be able to fight a bigger company even though they were right. Title: Re: and patent trolls strike Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 08, 2013, 04:25:16 AM This was patented AFTER multiple gaming systems were using the described method. A simple google search would show that. Then when it's challenged at that future lawsuit, the patent office will remove it. Yes, that is an annoying part of patents, and why it's good to have someone skilled in patent research assist you (Google doesn't count). |