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Altcoins are dying and some will be dead. Bitcoin murdered them and now I want to murder my self.

Not bitcoin, just altcoins owners.

I think lot of people here stating bitcoin is going to be the most important coin, always. King of our cryptoworld. Didn't you read them my friend? I am really sad about if you lose money on alts. Think it as lesson and keep going ahead. It is always better to hold some amount of bitcoin in your portfolio like %30-40..
Also ethereum will recover quickly in my opinion.

Headline in one week "Altcoins are killing Bitcoin, huge dump after Bitcoin Gold fork leads to Altcoin ascent"  ;D

Just stay calm and don't spread FUD. The market will regulate itself in long term.

When people start saying that "x is dying", that is the best time to start window shopping for cheap coins and start buying the dip. The strategy has worked like a charm in my experience, in Bitcoin at least.

But I am still in the process of looking for an altcoin to invest in, though I have not seen anything that I liked yet. I want an altcoin that has a positive correlation with Bitcoin's price moves, or flat at worst.

Everyones just focusing on the price of BTC right now, give it a few weeks money will go back into alts

altcoin dying. use that moment for buy... u will get many profit

This strategy does not work at all, because people don't have any money or usdt to buy cheap altcoins, they just have altcoins which worth nothing, this is why they are complaining.

I don't think so. This is just a temporary phase of bearing... also not every one is falling so hard. So don't spread FUD and try to be more patient. I think if you bought the right coins, your investments will pay off in the long run...

I think you still keep a portion of your money in Bitcoin, you are joining the Bitcointalk forum.
Bitcoin does not kill altcoin, which is really good, it will never die. Now more and more coin appear. This may be a good way to eliminate garbage coin.
More and more people are currently storing Bitcoin waiting for the hardfork, so Bitcoin  price increases cause the altcoin can not to catch up.

It does work, just don't go allin in alts?

Today almost all the coins is fallen and continue to fall, and I have four coins. XRP, DGB, DOGE and NAUT. one here is about 60% fall and and the other is almost worthless,  sometimes  thought to sell it but it was ridiculous, because it was great to lose. but I still do not lose hope that the day will come true again, and This will increase the value and we will all earn a big profit.

Look at Unobtanium.  It's mostly ignored what every other coin has done.  I would suggest following their twitter and looking closely at their charts.

Failing that, spread some BTC around some POS coins.  Passive income is great.

It's quite obvious to see Altcoins' orices dropping as the fork is near and most of them are awaiting for the airdrops of BTG.
Most of the people i know have sold their Altcoins to receive the free coins. That is the main reason why Altcoins have dropped.
The other reason is the increasing price of Bitcoin which has implemented a decline in Alts price making it drop gradually over the few days.
The Altcoins will rise after the fork when people will sell their BTC and invest in Alts. So don't worry and be patient.

Lolol hold on dude we in the same boat. The waves are rocky right now but the boat has not tipped over yet. Lets wait a week or two and see if alts dont do a recovery dance real quick. That will give you indication if you are

truly in a sinking ship or just a rocky one at the moment. Time will tell all :)

I agree on what you have said on which we are really just on the same boat on where the stress and frustrations seeing our altcoin holdings are most on red which would somehow give doubts and panic which i do really say its normal. Havent you get used to cryptoworld? This thing do really happen for sometime specially when theres an event. Eventually prices would really goes back to normal.

That makes a lot of sense about selling to get as much BTG as possible, never thought of that aspect.
Was going to ask about speculation after the fork and it seems we think the same about after the fork being a increase and back to normal.

I get used to seeing rapid falls of my portfolio. I bet all good ALTs will recover after BTG thing is over

I don’t see any reason to panic. These is a temporary situation for sure. Now it looks like really bad because bitcoin is peaking but things will change soon and bitcoin will fall back. If I were you I would buy some alt coins that are on the bottom now.

This happened of fork of bitcoin. In november altcoins gonna be alright as usualy. Just don`t panic and a little patience. Some altcoins always gonna die because of their useless

Altcoins are not dying. Bitcoin is just taking back its place. now at 58% crypto marketcap dominance. It was at 80% for most of until 8 months ago.   I doubt can go over 80% again. But who am I to predict?    For 80% price at this point should be over $15k.   But noone says that alts bubble will not burst right about now.

Altcoins are going down because of the upcoming Bitcoin Gold fork. Just hold your alts and stop being so impatient. This movement is completely normal.

a ton of threads talking about altcoin dying,or something like that.
only 2 possibilites about the creator of this thread :
1.he's an expert in trading,and made a fuss about 'dying' just to trigger the weak hands and newbie.
2.he's a newbie and do not understand how it works and how it will be.
altcoin will exist as long as Bitcoin still exist,
at least not now and a few years later on

From the beginning the current proliferation of altcoins, many of them extremely repetitive with nothing important to contribute, allowed to predict that the market was oversaturated and it was only a matter of time to put things in their place: now we have confirmed that bitcoin is the king and always will be, while the other coins dispute the leftovers.

We haven't confirmed anything. Bitcoin is climbing because there's an upcoming fork that will give people free Bitcoin Gold. Bitcoin is also the gateway into altcoins. And altcoins will be going back up once the forks are completed. This is nothing new.

Alt coins are nowhere near dead. The price is just down temporarily since the price of Bitcoin has skyrocketed these past weeks. Alt coins will eventually come back to their regular levels. Just have a little bit of patience.

Yeah, i moved all my altcoins funds to bitcoin when the price reached $5400, i was so scared to lose more money and that is why i did that. But i am in the profit zone right now, it is amazing the way that bitcoin is rising that it touched $6200 today. Probably if i wouldnt move my funds to btc, i could be in a loss of more than 20% at the moment, and that is insane because that 20% represents more than $2500 of my portfolio, just imagine how big that loss would be.

If you knew how the altcoin market works, then you wouldn't be surprised with how much the prices are falling. This is the time to start buying, as this has happened before, and it will continue to happen as long as Bitcoin exists. The market will recover in the long run.
Tbh, this kind of posts have a malicious purpose and only bring panic to newcomers.

But there is no different between the next bitcoin fork and altcoin because bitcoin gold was building from the altcoin algorithm that supported the gpu mine. after the bitcoin fork and all will be back again to the altcoins

Once we got DEX exchange, that support majority of coins & you can straight exchange from coin A to coin B or B to C without BTC/xxx coin.

By that time, btc are no longer a king

It's not surprising dude. Bitcoin is becoming stronger and stronger and you should have expected that it will go that way. If you really believe and trust in your coins, you won't feel any worries or fear because you know that it has great future and you won't act that way in the first place.

"Dude"

Low prices don't mean alts are dying. theyre just discounted

Would'nt say it about VTC haha   ::)

it is true that altcoin is dying but this is not for all altcoin because if you can see in the exchanges, there is still many altcoin is trying to survive although the price is down and they waiting the good moment to start rising. and i think you don't have to murder yourself because you can waiting too for the incresing of the altcoin price like many other people do. don't think to short that you can't live without making money from crypto currency, there is always a way out to us to solve our problem. just believe for what you have done and keep continue and not stop because of this situations.

Just stay calm and HODL as usual. Most alts had their big pump this year and it is due to a correction. To be honset, Bitcoin's tech is old and prone to many issues, If you take a deeper look at other alts, you can see that they have a better technology when it comes to privacy, transaction speed, security and scalability. Bitcoin has an "early-adoption" advantage that's why it's spiking up price so high, but trust me, one or more alt in the future will overcome bitcoin. I'm not saying bitcoin will die, it will still be a store of value but as for new adoption of an altcoin for its blockchain use, there would always be a better alt rather than bitcoin.

When it comes to privacy, one coin I've been looking at is DeepOnion. It's a crypto running on the TOR network, so obviously better privacy than what bitcoin has to offer. They have a solid, and unified team of developers, unlike all the drama that BTC has right now with miners vs core programmers lol. Some features include a hybrid POS/POW coin mining, DeepVault (your guarantee that nothing changes once it's in the blockchain record), Deepsend (a mixer under escrow payment) and a whole lot more of game changing attribute of this crypto. I suggest you check this out in Nova Exchange, or their currently running airdrop here in bct forum.

Atlcoins does look a bit slack on price movements and most people nowadays are more focused on bitcoin price movements than altcoin to gain a profit, but do not rule out the price altcoins will continue to be below and unable to moving even higher, there will be a time that of course altcoins price will moving higher and many people will return looking to altcoins as an object to gain a lot of profit in investing.

We will see money coming back to Alts after the fork hype ends.

Don't worry and hold.

Altcoins are alive and well. This is only happening because bitcoin is forking and people want to get into the new currency and sell it as fast as possible to make some money. After that, the money will only flow back into altcoins and ethereum will go up. Ethereum is just an example, but altcoins all together will slowly take their position again.

Yes, they can not argue at the bottom, but for a while, while everyone is sitting on the bitcoin, soon everyone will switch to Altcoins  and everything. Then there will be a small equality.

Yes it will be alive this is into a correlation when bitcoin pump altcoin has dump its value. But, this is only the normal situation in the altcoins market. I agree, the case of hard fork event that is why altcoin are down but does not mean it is dying.

This. Just this, as many others have stated.

The price fall isn't surprising, and this isn't an altcoin crash per se. I really don't see how alts would be dying, especially considering the number of good projects incoming and the sheer number of people willing to put money in them.

Greed is making the alts plunge, but it'll go back to normal in a few days. For the time being, alts are discounted, and it seems like a great time to fill some bags !

aww haha, dont take it so bad friend :) Altcoins are just a way for people to make BTC in the end, how many have real USE?
Most people dont NEED privacy coins, most people dont care about masternodes, except to make more BTC
Trust in BTC, you will never feel this way :) Alts free markets are a mess :/

Yes, mostly agree. But I still wonder why people are sending an unreasonable amount of money to ICO while they would never do the same for an IPO or a seed round  ;D

Dying only bad altcoins , buy ETP  ;)

I think this is just a temporary occurrence, because there will be a hard fork that will affect the value of altcoin, like with bitcoin before there is a hard fork, bitcoin keeps raising its price but after the time approaching bitcoin will also decrease its value.After that bitcoin will again raise the price and behind all that altcoin value will follow the movement of bitcoin.

Just because they went down for a few days doesn't mean that they are dead?

This logic simply does not work. Bitcoin went up - and as a result most altcoins apart from a few have plummeted in terms of bitcoin pricing, however if you look at the fiat pricing it is actually still at the same level as bitcoin's pump.

Plus, investing in altcoins will always come with that risk of losing.

Bitcoin's spot in the sun will be short lived once the two forks finish just like last time with bitcoincash it will drop again. Than all the altcoins will arise from the dead to reclaim there place and we can all make x2 or x3 on them!

Altcoins are dead, the same as Bitcoin was dead several times.

I'm investing in alts and i don't care what others are saying, we already had an example in August, why should be different now? Use swings don't be afraid of them.Buy now and shutdown  PC for a few days if you cannot deal with negative energy accumulated here. Do not buy coins which has no pulse, everything that is 50%-100% under original will recover after. 8)

And remove blockfolio from your homescreens.

People are afraid because they don't understand what they are doing. They just blindly follow trends without knowing what is going on. That's also why they will lose money in the long run.

in fact, there has not been much change in dollar level bitcoin will go down after 25 October.
we need to be patient

There's another fork in November though.

This sounds about right to me. Just one look at the charts you can see things go up and down. Good alt's will recover in my opinion.

ya bro, use that moment for buy. u will get more profit
altcoin will raise up again surely. dont miss this opportunity

at least not give up with this situation. I have the view that bitcoin will not live without altcoin.
and this situation is only temporary. early 2018 will all be back to normal.

Some people are not thinking the consequences of their decision, they will just follow to the flow. When altcoins are increasing they were immediately investment then when they see it crashing down they were automatically withdraw it. That's how people thinking and due to lack of trust sometimes they were made wrong decision in their life.

I wonder how many of them realize that they will have to pay taxes if they ever want to use their crypto profits.

And most countries have higher tax rates for investments that are held for less than one year. So by swing trading they are screwing themselves over if they ever want to really get a Lambo or house.

But well, they'll end up paying the price. If they don't manage to lose everything in crypto, they will end up losing most of it once they wish to buy something real with the profits.

You might have entered the altcoin market at the wrong time( I also have done that  >:( ). All the coin price was bubbled and the market is going though a big correction period. We have to wait a long coins will rise again, for sure.

Each coin has a chance of growth and fall, so do not be discouraged that one investment did not come out, because it may bring another double profit, so it is how our "work" works.

That's why you need to diversify investments. Otherwise if you messed up you will lose everything.

Some will be dead , true but most of them will survive dont worry. It is just because of the bitcoin fork. when it is completed they will recover very fast. No need to panic and sell any thing. Altcoins will be as profitable as it was before very soon.

Example: Digibyte and Doge coins absolutely dump the value completely in the price chart. I noticed from the last 3 days all the altcoins value and supply is completely dump in the price graph bro.
I too expect that all the altcoins should be increased in the price chart. I really worry about the ripple since invested 100 USD last week to buy it. If the price bumps again. I will sell it all:(

Its just a usual market reaction when something like a fork will happen. I hope you are familiar with the fork that gave birth to Bitcoin Cash. Its the same thing, so nothing to worry. Not yet the of the world dude, if you have Alts and you lost a lot already, you may want to keep it and wait till fork is over if you don't want airdrops for BTG, just like what happened before, Alts started to recover after the fork.

Every altcoin holder is going through same phase. There was a time when almost all the large and medium cap altcoin were red. My altcoin portfolio reduced by 50% in Bitcoin value.
Actually, not the wrong time but the unexpected and ridiculous Bitcoin price surge is responsible. Everyone has expected the price surge to $5k. But Bitcoin went overpriced and alts had to suffer. Correction would definitely be happening after fork and price is sure to touch $5k again. Altcoin will see a gradual growth then.

Bitcoin transfer fees are too expensive.
IMO, coins like ETH or ripple may be the ones used as daily cash in the future.

If xrp dropped the banking idea it could have taken over a long time ago

That's why we're having forks.

have to wait for another cycle, all my friends please be patient

we are waiting this cycle.

This is happening over and over again. It is part of the game, relax, take a beer and hodl ;)

Yep, we will have it on December! Let's be positive!

Such price situations are no longer surprising to me, the cryptocurrencies have really fluctuate prices. I think it is better to stay calm and wait for better prices.

I don't think there are dying and bitcoin is just driving them as the first cryptocurrencies and we expect it to be going up. I have been following this current events and I do expect altcoins to recover this week. Bitcoin did not killed altcoins but as it has been a laws of nature that the most powerful will gain more power and the rich will continue get rich from money and wealth flow from the poor. Bitcoin will continue to feed on altcoins to remain relevant and we have to accept this reality.

Fork affected them so much. But some of them are really dying. You should consider investing some trustable altcoins, having a big market volume. ETH will recover in my opinion as well.

Whatever that bolded in your comment means, the humour is lost on me. Anyway, I really don't see the death of altcoins as a factor that has do with the bitcoin. Bitcoin is a pioneer crypto and has deep substance with its usage and that is why it's still useful daily. What happens with some altcoins (off course there are good ones) is that they lack substance. These altcoins get dropped after a while because they lack the services they should be providing. Naturally and quite expectedly they get dropped and die off.

If theres already a lost of interest on a certain coin then it is really destined to die for sure we do see lots of shitcoin/dead coins in the market but yet there are still some could able to sustain and still kicking as of these days which arent considered as dead yet.They might decrease on their prices but doesnt mean it would completely die.Theres no need to murder yourself because you did just lost money on investing into altcoins.Its not really worth it at all.  ;D

many coins will die if the volume is low or the ICO deadline coincides with hardfork so many investors do not focus on them.
I disagree with the term bitcoin that kills altcoin, the death of some coins due to market responses and the inability of developers to provide more innovative projects, traders are only concerned with coins that keep moving and not concentrate on currency exchange only. .

Exactly. Bitcoin and most altcoins are completely separate things that don't compete with each other at all. So Bitcoin can't possible "kill" them.

Thanks for your explanation. Focus on good points. These forks really make us loose faith in crypto-currency as a whole. Might be, These forks are fantastic way to make money. Don't loose faith.

Why would they make you lose faith? It just means that people are actively working on making cryptos better. If anything that seems like a good thing to me.

Exactly. Bitcoin went up so naturally, altcoins would go down. There is only so much money in this market and sometimes they do go up together in the same time but there is a chance that alts will plummet when bitcoin goes up, which is exactly what happened this time round.

Just hold whatever coin you have.

If it's a good coin, in the long term, it'll prove its worth.

I know bitcoin is having some acceptance in the market ant it is possible to pay with it.
But, which altcoin is having this "success" ?

Lots of them, actually. XMR, for example.

dude how can you invest money which you cant afford into high risk shitcoins with no real value behind.
when a coin with no real longterm potential did 50-100X in a few month I would never ever invest in it. most of altcoins made huge profits for 2016 investors and it was just a matter of time when they want to sell their millions...
also never invest money in something you dont understand 100% and never invest money in high risk stuff you cant afford to lose

Absolutly agree with that! you always should research your potential investments...before you invest! Or else it is like gambling but not with the typical 50% chances.
The only coin to join in without too much investigation should be Bitcoin but even there you should analyse the market and find a good entry.

IMO altcoins are not dying at all and even become more and more interesting, offering new features which Bitcoin will never have!

For me they are more interesting than Bitcoin itself.

I agree, there are so many fantastic and innovative altcoins, they will not die, it's just a normal cycle, in the future they will see better days.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
HODLLLLL.
#1- always keep a fair portion of BTC- for me is 50%!!
#2- if you want alts just well established and alts with a future - 30%. they keep there value in fiat and will gain value in BTC eventually
#3- use the rest to play around. so if you are loosing you don´t cry. Ok babies will always cry. but at least you won´t cry a lot...
#4 - Get some coins that pay dividends or POS or some kind of passive income so you can keep getting some profit even in dark days.

Stick With Ethereum . it is a Stable altoin.
Don't Blame the Altcoins. if you just stick first to bitcoin
you will be happy. and earn a large profit.
but now BTC is back to 5700+$ . so  some of altcoin revive.
specially Ethereum who stick in 290+$ price

I'm pretty sure that 80-90% of all altcoisn we know today will die during the next years because they are just useless.

Not all altcoins are dying. Shit coins deserve to die, but good coins deserve to live. Price dropping, red days are normal actions in a market. There will always be days when the price of an altcoin will drop significantly especially if bitcoin price surges very high in a short time. And normally, when bitcoin price settles, altcoin come back up.

If things go like they are now soon we'll be discussing same subject about countless BTC forks LOL

Thanks for the information.

There definitely are a few very interesting and promising altcoins. But most will die for sure, they might try to artificially stay alive by marketing but they will probably not create what they promised to.

I'm pretty sure it's exactly the other way round  ;D

Bitcoin is dying in the Long term - since it's no real product. It was just the first of its kind and hyped by media.
When promising Altcoins are evolving and started to be used by companies and masses of private customers - they will overtake Bitcoin easily.

Bitcoin is a real product though. If you think otherwise you should study it in more detail. There are only two realistic scenarios that could make Bitcoin either disappear or lose its place at the top, but we're nowhere close to seeing either of them taking place.

Current altcoin low is just due to the 2 BTC hard forks in a short time.
If you do not even understand those basics, you should definitely not invest in the crypto market at all.

You mean you invested an Altcoin that is already dead by now?
Not all Altcoins are dying out but some of them are having a hard time getting into the competition including your Altcoin so investing in Altcoin requires luck and also there are very stable Altcoin you can invest while it's not too late.
Bitcoin price is very high but it's not the reason that some Altcoin are murdered. Together with Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Eth, ripple and other top Altcoins' value are also increased.

Investing never requires luck. Gambling is a game of luck. Investing is a game of careful analysis and risk mitigation.

I really hope they are not. I like to think of them as the future and bitcoin as the pioneer. It has shown people blockchain, but other coins (altcoins) have much better use cases.

No digital currency is going to die and some famous altcoins are definitely not going anywhere. Let’s just look at the past progress of Ethereum, it showed some real progress. Similarly, we have the option of monero, litecoin, neo, waves, ripple which are thought to be capable of doing great. I believe in these altcoins and they will make great achievements with time. At last, it is necessary to understand your digital asset first.

agree 100% with this, but don't deny that bullish BTC runs and hard forks cause a lot of disruption to alternative currencies.

Of course they do. But short time fluctuations are irrelevant to a savvy investor. They're just part of the ride.

You can get lucky and make more money than you expected. But if your losses are any bigger than you accounted for, you're doing it wrong. And most people here don't seem to have any idea how their portfolio will develop over time in different situations... so those are the roulette players.

Also, in poker you will lose if someone is better than you at analyzing risks or gets lucky. With investing, you should never lose.

I think why other altcoins are dead because the dev left their coins, or they dont have any project to increase the price of their own coin. Bitcoin is not murdered because other altcoin once bitcoin price increase they also increase because they are base on the bitcoin price. Not all bitcoinb rre die because its only few altcoins die and thats not normal because they have a lot of altcoins as of now.

LOL, don't kill yourself, man! The life is so beautiful! :D. If you have invested in some bad altcoins, now you should sell them immediately and buy BTC or others good coins. Don't worry. Try your best every day, you will not be disappointed!  ;D

Fork is over and altcoin are recovering to their regular value.i would say invest in token rather than altcoin as majority of altcoin are useless without any project backing up.while token are backed by project and some of the token  are backed by real commodity and they generally buy back it hence give external protection towards your fund.

most of the altcoins are not useless and most of them are stabe and highy profitable in terms of investing compared to tokens which is more likey to be a pump and dump scheme and has no real developement at all. and as you see most old altcoins are still  listed on the exchanges even if theres no hype on them or partially loose their fame but not in tokens because they are easily replaced on exchanges if they would loose thier value feven for a short time only.

All are turning heads, great!

We cannot become good traders or good at anything we find to do, until the understanding that it takes peaks and bottoms for any market/endeavor to make a headway and things won't always work as planned or expected, but our ability to manage failures, lost, disappointments, etc makes all the difference. We need the right knowledge and skills an open eyes and mind to see the next turn and act accordingly. Life is whatever we make of it, take responsibility!

Right now the market is looking forward to Segwit2x hard fork and the supposed free money that goes with that, is going to be weighing much on the market and that is the exact reason Bitcoin is going to sour much higher before the hard fork.

Telax and be patient. A lot of altcoins have (in the whitepaper) a usecase. Lets see if the teams can do it
 Almost 90% will fail, but some will do it. I dont think we will see the good altcoins fail till the end of 2018.
Better times will come

Cheers

It's not BTC killing them but the investors. Many coins drop below ICO prices and for me that's not understandeble, why invest if you are going to give away your coins with a loss. GTake a look at BMC. ICO price was 1$ now it's on 56 cents. Why sell with a loss of 44%?
Still I belive that altcoins will raise and se new highets in 2018. Not all but some. Do your reaserch and pray that you make the right investments.
Cheer up and invest when the price is low.

Good luck

ICOS got to be a big gamble nowadays.
People either want 10x or just go out as soon as possible.

Thats the issue...with all that pre ico bonuses etc. people sell below ico price and are still making profit.

altcoins are not dying
but cost fluctuations are caused by BTC growing up
now a lot of crypto fans have a nice opportunity to invest in alts

ICOs are indeed somewhat of a gamble.

But if you have a reliable source of information giving you picks or you are just really good at picking ICOs yourself then you have a very good chance of making money out of investing in ICOs. Just look at all the NXT and ETH investors right now.

Altcoins are definitely not dying though.

I think ICOs are bad for altcoins. People are loosing faith to altcoins because of all the lost money due to ICOs. If the recent Electrneum ICO fails that might send a whole new wave of negative vibes. Many people invested into that one.

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated".   <- Top100 alt coins appreciated more last week than Bitcoin. And it was a good week for Bitcoin. Source: Blockchain Dynamics podcast

If you say alt coin is suffer for these hard fork of bitcoin i am agree with you. But if you say alt coin dying i will say no...
Some of scam altcoin will be death but not all altcoin. Altcoin make the crypto completed. But alt coin will never beat bitcoin at marketcap. Bitcoin is lime digital gold and alt coin is like digital currencies. Altcoin will fill the weakness of bitcoin in part of time trasactions..

Just stay calm and keep on investing guys altcoins is here to stay for a long period of time.Although they may not catch up to bitcoin as an early period of time but altcoin will hang in there. IF it were to perished then wouldn't  you think it's  the people's  fault?

yes it's one of those people who often do panic selling despite loss.
It might be funny if they do not observe the coins they invest, just sell and buy without counting how often they lose.
the key of coin strength comes from their own strength.

People are pulling back to bitcoin due to btc gold fork and a segwitx2 fork. We must wait a bit longer for alts to recover.

Altcoins can't die, it is just a necessary market correction that we are witnessing now, I this is necessary for normalcy to return to the space, even as we can see most ICOs are even having difficulties raising funds, which will definitely help investors from all these ridiculous valuations

True!

False! Do you even know what a price correction is? This has nothing to do with a correction.

Most altcoins will die for sure. In the real world around 90% of start ups fail. Crypto is no better. Dead coins might try to appear alive, but they will still be dead. Only 1-10% will survive in the long term and deliver on their promises.

Altcoin values grows in the market whenever the ethereum value grows in the market. Investment is not moves up the failure It is moving down in the time ICO scam by the investors.
Still there are many altcoins survives in the market place chart. Their adoption rate and usage increases like bitcoin. For example, we can see the Dash, LTC, Dodge, Ethereum and etc...

I'm specifically talking about ICO type of coins that make outlandish promises that they won't deliver.

Indeed every thing must have had a possibility to crumble (negative), because it is in the world when there are meetings there must be separation. So do not ever assume that bitcoin will produce or provide benefits indefinitely, because if that is what you think you will definitely feel relaxed!! . It would be much better that you figure out how to be more developed and not continue to spin at something that has been a lucrative us, so simply that you make the pond could produce.

Only the terrible coins with no use case are dying - the rest will bounce back soon enough after the 2X fork!

You never know when alts are going up, but time will come for sure... Maybe not the same alts as in april/may but new will take place and liftoff...Market is becomnig more mature and only project with plan can suceed imo

Alts are taking a beating this past months as BTC continues its bull trend. Expect more blood in the street and more people to panic sell their alts at a much lower price. If you manage your risk and money well enough, you could use this opportunity to get some alts (make sure to do you own research first) at a discounted price. Just make sure that you still have large percentage of your portfolio allocated to BTC. I'm not expecting for it to stop in the coming weeks and months. This may take some time.

It's not a surprise that alts are going down. So far there has been a lot of hot air and very little to no product. Of course people would start jumping off.

BTC fall just a little... Not really falling. But i think it is beginning to fall.

without alkoin bitcoin will not last long ...

How so? Even Bitcoin on its own would be enough to drastically change the financial world.

Is that really? I still see greens and graph moving right and up for most altcoins https://www.coingecko.com/en
Sure bitcoin makes significant gain, but the market moves alternately

Post was made over a week ago. Which is a long time in crypto. But no, alts are not dying yet, even though a lot of them will.

There is no need to panic , its normal that people focus on bitcoin because of the price, and fork being done with btc
but at the end of the day , people always keeps altcoins, because they know sooner or later, there is one of them
that will try to overtake btc, although its long way fight, and no altcoin is not dying, it will only die, if everyone left
crypto world, so at the moment lets help , promoting other altcoins

That's what they said when Kane chokeslamed the Undertaker into a fake grave and people thought he is dead for real, but he came back to life from the similar circumstances for 7 times. Just like that altcoins they don't die, it's just fake facts that people tend to assume and hear from random sources. And if you're willing to murder yourself, not a lot of people will care they will just be like eh another person also died.  But what are you to say by bitcoin murdered? Show us the murderer, detective  ::).

Hope like that. Expected altcoin selection, which's really tough that survives and continues to be used by many people. So, my eyes not too sore just to do analysis in market to buy altcoin which i will hold.

if alts are dead,by by my money  :'(

Its going to be like this for two weeks atleast and it can get only worse.

I think the altcoin market has one more turn around in it before the fork. I see alts rising, then hitting the red just before the fork. I for one am taking advantage of the cheap alts!

First of all take those thought of damaging yourself out of your head, now bitcoin is not killing altcoins, we come from period in which altcoins grew at a faster pace than bitcoin and now we are in the opposite cycle now bitcoin is growing faster than altcoins, at some point this tendency is going to reverse and instead of getting threads like this we are going to get threads claiming the death of bitcoin.

Extreme thinking is very good for those who manipulate.
With this kind of thinking you gave him a very big room for manipulation.
Yes Bitcoin done something. Why? Well we got played, but we can't do much.
They have more money and less people in game.

some of these altcoins will be very successful bitcoin cant do it all, and thats where these coins that do what bitcoin cant do will be successful.

Don't panic! Altcoins have hard times after fork...All will be fine. No one owner wouldn`t die :)

The next scenario won't the opposite current trending. After earned a lot of profits through altcoin and bitcoin, I think that's the time for the whale go out and withdrawal profits. Then, they will use that amount to enjoy and relax instead of create more FUD and spend many money. The market will come back to real value and they will go again when it complete.

Altcoins are dying now because people are migrating into Bitcoin in the leados hardfork which takes place in November ( Segwit2X)
 

Altcoins will never die bro, didn't you know the famous word of gangsters? "We don't DIE We MULTIPLY!"  ;D ;D I am not saying that altcoins are gangster or whatever but can't you see that almost everyday altcoins are multiplying like it is unstoppable. Maybe altcoins will dump but they will rise again through time bro. Just bare patience and altcoins will pump again.  ;D ;D ;D

That's very unfortunate bro. I bet you invested on those worthless altcoins that are always hyped by members who always shill it. Because of this, I'm not investing in any altcoins for now because bitcoin is showing signs of reaching another all time highs so I'll keep my btc for now.

yrs right now, but In Nov. it will go up up and go!!

Yes, with the increase in price of Bitcoin, altcoins prices are dying in the market and people who bought at higher prices are completely stuck with the altcoins, because they cannot sell them for lower prices.

You dont have to kill yourself learn from your mistake and move along, bitcoin didnt kill the alt coins that you have invested its the developers that killed it and with no more user interaction from the market the coin will just eventually die.
Its not your fault if the coin that you have died you can still make profit just make the right decision.

The future of an altcoin depends on the community itself. If the community of an altcoin is alive, then the altcoin is alive as well. The community I am saying is the investor and the user of an altcoin. If the investor is always investing on the altxoin and the uaer are too loyal to use this altcoin then the life on altcoin will never die.

if the alts serve its purpose then for sure it will never die and more investors will follow and invest with that certain project, I think that's what is important
in terms of knowing the value of certain alts. I'm always looking for the possibilities that certain project will be use together with bitcoin.

despite altcoins price has dropped recently, many people are changing into bitcoin, but many people still keep using altcoins for transactions, so as long as altcoins still be used by us, altcoins will never die.

It looks like some old coins are rising again. The market is bustle with lots of new coins and lots of trash coins.

No they are not if you are smart you can invest and quick sell them you can get good money out of this. I hear a man who earned 3 million from altcoins.

This means that you can get a lot of money out of it.

I Think there is a huge impact of the price of bitcoin on the altcoin because we have seen that when ever the price of the bitcoin rises the price of the altcoin ultimately falls. But yeah it is a severe truth that  bitcoin and most altcoins are completely separate things that don't compete with each other at all. So Bitcoin can't possible "kill" them but yes up and down of the coins are the part of the game so, don't worry on them.

bitcoin really ruined the market, Maybe something like this is good for us.
made it easier for us to find quality projects

One of the things that we do have to do is look at all the things that exist, because if we just act susai Word or outstanding issues I am sure most we do is a huge mistake or it could be said that we will only get the regret of the step. So, if you want to get an advantage then a major step is look at all the things well and never minded the negative.as well as the analysis is the most important thing for us to do, otherwise it will all end in a big loss. Cause analysis helps us in looking at all the things well.
 

Bitcoin is more than 6300 USD...

i dont think altcoins is dying, recently, altcoins price has dropped drastically, however most of people still using altcoins for trading, so i dont think altcoin is going to die, they just drop temporary and will rise back again in the future.

Such news are making newbie little worry. Still hoping for the best.

No it is not dying, people just want to get on btc train because of hardfork
They dump their alt to get BTG and perhaps B2X later
Once BTC stabilizes, alts will skyrocket back to its original value

If you do let yourself easily believe into those fuds then you will surely lose up money or on negatives. Price decrease do normally happens on cryptoworld which you shouldnt really be surprised. Once you do see on negative price on your portfolio then dont panic and just let those price move whatever they want because in the end those will really recover and dont ever make some cut loss.

It depends on the altcoin being used. Some are actually coming up with good projects that would make them to be used and stay relevant in the community and if this can keep going on for them with some pretty big developments for them over time, then they surely cannot die.

But if you look at the market today, some of the altcoins dev have even dropped theirs and the few people holding are just stucked with a shit coin and no one to buy making it worthless, those sort of coins are dead!

I agree with all of this apart from alts returning to their original value, of course many will but many will remain at lower values and certainly almost all will remain at lower values in terms of btc/altcoin price.

Lots of coins without any real utility beyond speculation around too... I'm surprised they even manage to gain any grounds withouth offering anything in return. Sure resembles Kickstarter and Gofundme "projects" that just collect money without giving anything back for it.

But why? What exactly happened?
If you bought your alts even when the price of Bitcoin was near to 1000, then your altcoins must still be worth the same or even more in terms of USD if they are not down more than 6 times. I know that most of the altcoins have been dumped down to hell but just wait for Bitcoin to stabilize as when it does, alts start to rise back. Don't worry too much about the current situation, think of the future and don't commit stupid decisions. Bitcoin is here to let us live, and live freely, so stop being a coward and live.

I feel how you feel I am 75%+ in alt coins and this massive surge has taken a huge toll on my overall BTC value. But if one thing is keeping me optimistic is that the market goes through cycles and when this bear run is over

and another bull run hits that should be good enough to undue the losses in BTC...or so I hope.

Depends on what coins you've picked. If you chose realistic projects with promising real-world revenue you can just sit back and hodl. Otherwise you might have some trouble a few bull runs in.

With the price of bitcoin rising like this,people tend to dump the rest of the alt coins and join the band wagon and so is the reason the entire market is going down,but there is nothing to worry if you have invested in good projects and coins and i would say this is the best opportunity to buy these coins as i am sure the alt coin market will recover.

I start to disagree with you, many new coins have scammer dev, suddenly 1 sat if very expensive. Think about a year ago. I can see that more alts will trade in eth and doge market.

I was stayin away from altcoins, and I see how I was doing well about this. If I got them 3 months ago, I would have huge amount of loss in terms of bitcoin and ETH. This is very bad and they won't recover their loss in the near future, it seems.

Most dead is one of biggest -> XMR. Skeleton to the core. No rise in BTC for over 1 year. Look and compare with other alts. Even the XMR thread is fullfilled with belivers, priests and prayers to XMR god cause they are hodlers for the whole ALTcoin BUBBLE and the noMore/ShortMeMore missed it all. Bouncing in the range of 0.01 - 0.03 for over 1 year with 1 big jump at the begining of september 2016. Thats all. Biggest crypto which looses since then value in BTC.
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F2823mmw.png&t=582&c=Pil_uYTuDL4HvQ

I'm always in for the long ride anyways. A couple of months mean nothing when it comes to investing, so I don't really care even if one of my purchases dropped 60%. But so far I always managed to buy in without reversals, because I avoided any and every asset that was already pumped any more than its potential revenue accounts for.

OFC. LOL 60% is not lost until you sell. You can sell with gain in next few years. Meanwhile your fellows will drive new Bugatti and live in a huge nice house while you hodl your alts beliving they will someday rise and they will and AGAIN you will sleepover the sell time. For years living in small flat driving 10 year old honda... :)

I never had a coin drop 60%. And I don't drive a car whatsoever - waste of money and I don't need to flaunt an expensive car to satisfy my ego.

But anyways, good luck with short term trading, you will need it. And that's entirely ignoring the fact that most short term traders completely neglect taxes as well, so they will either lose most of their profits to tax evasion fines, or they'll go straight to jail once they try to buy their Bugatti. ;)

Please dont panic if you are holding good altcoins.
The market present situation is temeporay and very soon you will see your altcoins dumping once again.
Cheers !!

oh yeah. I am new to this shit. I was always new. New to the bubble of 2011 and 2013.... and i am new again and even considered troll while providing technical analysis. Denial in the community means that IT IS GOING to drain for long time...

It's pretty clear that I've hit a mark when I implied that you might have ego problems.

So, since you've been around since 2011, you're bound to be rich now.

So why do you still care about what people think about you on a forum?


Either way, next time don't randomly attack people and your feelings might not get hurt as a result. You can stop crying now, everything will be fine. Just take a ride in your Bugatti.

"Up and down" is a normal thing in trading and investing.  If your altcoins are the ones with not only best platforms but with lots of users, your altcoins will surely bounce back. Those altcoins that will surely die are those not being used in the community because the irrelevant and futile. Whats is happening with the altcoins  is temporary. Hold on.

I care? Really? I have nice fun beeing here watching all the newcommers going to blame BTC and all ALTS for loosing their wealth in this crap. Remember it is good time to sell when the charwoman buys in. Next bubble will not come. This is the last for long time cause this bubble is full media attention. Everyone heard about this bubble and BTC/alts. Cycle is closed. Now TWO BIG downfalls lasting LONGER than last THREE bubbles(wha wha wee wa! 3 bubbles over 7 years! so  whats next? 14 years of downfall ? :)). Do not blame me when i warned you... Maybe BTC will take it longer up for a few moments who knows. But pop of this bubble means the end and total denial ending in global rumours after cryptos making newcomers poor.

If you just had "fun" you wouldn't have to flaunt Bugattis that you probably don't even own.
I never stated that I lost any money either, so you might want to practice reading comprehension. Your posts aren't very coherent either, so your analysis of the market situation is pretty much irrelevant by proxy. Also, the fact that you've directly compared the present/future to the past in a volatile market already suggests that you don't understand which fundamentals drive prices...

Maybe if you spent less time ranting and trolling you could spend more time doing research. :)

Time for ranting and trolling currently started. Guess why... :) (i was doing things at the market up to the time not long before). Do not cry I did not warned what is going to happen. Everyone forgot the ETC creation? Everyone forgot that forks can be dangerous? Everyone forgot that exchanges got hacked? Yes it seems. Pure BTC optimism and pure altcoin denial of situation. That is going on. And guess why i "troll" everyone and go on buy more. Take LOANS to buy more :)

Who cares if exchanges get hacked? If you keep your funds in an exchange it's your fault if you lose your money. You still haven't raised any legitimate concerns. I guess you're too busy in your Bugatti to post anything meaningful?

You really does not remember gox? :)

I remember Gox. I'm saying it's irrelevant. But since you can't read, I'll stop responding to you instead of wasting my time.

Do you not have anything better to do?

Every time I see you comment you're arguing with someone

The reason is that the continued rise of bitcoins is causing the collapse of altcoins. This is normal for the investor because the investors of altcoins are buying bitcoins to pursue its rise and sell at high prices. Let's just get the wound healed and the market will rise again. So if you do not get caught up in this level it will serve you in the future and when it happens again you will know what to do

Bitcoin is apreciating too much which in turns forces altcoins to correct their btc price but lots of them still hold their usd value, so good altcoins are fine, the ones that are dying are the ones just created for a pump and dump. Those you'll see them falling 70% in their usd value and like 200% in their btc value. Specially airdrop coins because everyone is doing it at a convenient time where they only care how much btc they can steal from the market, dump the coin and move on. It's sad and the only thing we can do is protect ourselves from scammers. So many altcoins have become unrealistic promises instead of tangible solutions.

Altcoins are not dying, they are just in the lower stage.For now let us just hold our altcoin and wait for the pump of alts.

I sometimes do wonder what will happen if smart people like these go and invest in stocks and become a permanent stock trader and what will be their reaction towards it. Sure dude, sure altcoins are dying, be a hero and save it, will you? A lot of people will praise you and give you some attention as well. Go catch those villans out there, lontonbit.

sounds really bad, lest it happen to you.. dude. I still believe there are some altcoins will stay alive and still have price developments that will moving even higher from now.
But maybe we should choose altcoins that are really more popular to invest, and it seems that if I am thorough.. the average investment in altcoins that if it wants to gain profit, it's in the long term and we should really be able to holding it strongly.

In a metaphorical sense yes altcoins might be dying. But they don't die as long as people want it and buy it. Enough with the FUD, and let us big boys decided by ourselves which coin we are going to invest and hold.

I don't understand why they are dying ? What changed between 2 months ago and now ?

lol. altcoins are going up now. Don't worry! Everything needs time to change. If you trust in your coins and the devs. Don't change your target!  :D

Yup! and Bitcoin is not the reason why they are perishing right now, I think the demand for that certain coins was to small than the number of people that really want to buy bitcoin, but right now as the price increase any further bitcoin is really leaving Altcoins behind but that doesn't mean that it is the end for them, I think it is safe to say that top 5 Altcoins would sure not take a great leap because if bitcoin price boom Altcoins will keep it low and steadily go up in a slow pace manner they will keep it slowly but surely.

Another trolling again for a coconut shell brain.  ;D Just making fuds again so everyone will panic and sell their altcoins.
Yeah there will be some altcoins that may die eventually because nobody are trading it but as long as there's a demand and the coin will circulate in the market that coin will live through. Same goes in bitcoin.

Holy shit. This is the quote of this bubble and real indicator the end is near  "gox was irrelevant". It just started 2.5 year bessa and denial of btc back then. 😁 ROTFL

altcoins are not dying
you should never believe all the rumours spreading around

And that is just it. If the community deem it fit as a coin not worth holding for too long or does not really have much support as not much people are ready to buy huge even at dips, then that is what makes the coin relevant or not.

Many coins are just there in the market today and I really wish they can just be delisted totally from all exchanges. What they are good for is sharp pumps and they will absolutely never amount to anything.

That is their market, some have something and plan for the future and the possibility of development and some unfortunately do not and therefore have to go into oblivion.

Yes right now its dying but hold it later on it will be good profit.

Relax man, you don't need to suicide just because you lost a few bucks. This crypto currency world has full of potential, if you want to get rich you can still do it in next 5 years. There is a lot to be made, don't lose your hope. Don't sell your good alts, just wait.

Just normal to think off that coins would either succeed or die completely.It does really depend completely on community if it would gain some support or not. This is why project owners would really launch projects which would really have some real life usage so that people would see its usefulness and might possibly traded actively by it.

Although some alts will probably die from this many will bounce back just fine. Especially those with good concepts and tech. You might as well hold on to them.

the question is when they will bounce back. before that we will see a real bear market...

yes because of forks... Not a healthy atl market right now

I think this is the long sought market correction and purge we waited to see. A lot of them will disappear. But some will come out even stronger!

Everyday more and more altcoins are announced. It won't be profitable soon because there are too much of them, unless the very few altcoins which have a great concept and going for the longterm, instead of all the pumpdumps.

Not very difficult to say.
B2X hard fork is probably on the 18th.
Alts will start increasing within minutes after fork.
But hopefully some shitcoins will die.

It is just too cheap.
It is not dying.

Some of coins may die but sime will rise.
I could bet that it is a good idea to buy some.
Altcoins ll surprise you

Depends on which you are going to choose, but yes, some will definitely surprise people all over again very soon.

At the end there will be 3-4 big coins , but not only bitcoin !

 :-\ :-\ :-\

There's bound to be more than just 3 or 4 coins in the long run. Unless governments FUD crypto into the ground, which seems very unlikely to succeed right now.

Altcoins aren't dying, they are just going deeper than usual because of bitcoin's fork but they will recover soon. However, Recovery depends on the coin and not at all coins recover at the same time. Though there is a possibility that some may not but definitely not all. So hold on to those alts you have and give it some time to rise.

And as long as the blockchain is still working for that altcoin, whether it has value or not, it is still tradable and it can be passed from investor to investor from trader to trader. Even shitcoin was able to dispose all its trillions but it is not dying as there are people buying into it. Chill man.

Altcoin back to the stage of rising prices like the old again. Only the fluctuations in Bitcoin need to be reduced a little. Otherwise, the price increase for Altcoin will not happen.

The last altcoin prices are unfortunately so low in these times. I always try to stand strong against the price losses, but these situations started to bother me just a little bit. I know the cryptocurrencies have really volatile prices and they have really fluctuated characteristics, but I really hope to see the rising of the prices. The speculations are generally promising about the altcoin prices, and I am expecting good news patiently.

It is a huge market, trade is going on everyday, just some pretty little factors causing some downtrend which we already know anyway. Some have had some pretty good push recently which is good for those who bought at dips but that does not mean they wont still drop before the next fork. However, once everything is clear, then we can start seeing trade coming back to normal like we have always had it.

altcoins ruined my life fuck altcoins make me sick now.

For me all is due to the recent increase in BTC prices and Bitcoin is devastating the ecology of altcoin because the price of bitcoin is now very high and has reached over $ 7300 today. I think people should not trade at this time

How much money have you invested? You should always only invest what you are willing to lose! That's rule number one when investing. Many are doing the mistake that they're investing more than they can afford, which brings them in dificult situations if the market goes south. Everyone should know that before they invest their hard earned cash into anything, as with every space you have the potential to make a loss. If everyone would only profit then this entire scheme wouldn't make sense (and finance itself). But to end in a positive note, it's normal that BTC is gaining a lot and alts are losing. The fork is coming and big groups and finacial institutions have already commited to using bitcoin in one way or another. After the hype passes people will be able to look at the big picture again and invest in Altcoins, which is one of the most promising markets in the future of blockchain, don't worry - you'll make your money back at some point.

Just buy alts low or if you're holding, just hold harder. We'll get back up.

The past 4 months were the worst time to buy altcoins

yes that is the way crypto seems to work.
out with the old in with the new.
i am so glad i never went heavy into alts,
BTC first, last, always.

stop crying like a drama queen..  unless you chooosed shitcoins, you will recover your money and earn profits again.. just a matter of patience and time!

Even if people are buying more BTC now, it does not mean that you should not invest in altcoins, because you can gain a lot when BTC suffers a correction.  ::)

People thought the same about, probably most of the, tech stocks that are massive now. ;)

anyone who believes in this should close their exchange accounts and stay out of this article and business. get your btc's to your wallet and please go away. this topic is not for you.

altcoins are not dying.they are getting ready for the spring : )

I just entered this world last month and it seems it was the best month to find out about btc and alts, buying them cheap now and then we shall see. they are certainly not dead! no fear!

i liquidated alts during the previous forks jumped in after and liquidated again

the writing has been on the wall the whole time and i am a novice to the crypto world

i cant for the life of me understand why you stay in these positions on the way to a fork where prices will be free falling

Nah, a lot of altcoins are definitely going to die. Definitely not all though. Some very nice projects that will make history around today.

Maybe bitcoin and not more interesting than all the current altcoins, but it built the whole world of crypto currency, and if it crashes then everything collapses :-[

You should not be too pessimistic. Believe in what you have invested. Altcoin decreases because the bitcoin is being pump too high. Then everything will return to normal. You can choose DCA or cut prematurely and wait for the price to fall to buy the good coin.

Believing only makes sense when you know what you're doing though. But I guess if people don't research enough and don't know what they're doing they would get emotional and start doubting themselves. Just need to keep asking as many questions as possible when trying to identify a good investment.

Have you heard that one of the biggest exchange for alt coins Nova Exchange will close sometime in the coming months? Does anyone know why this is happening? Is this due to loss of revenue because almost everybody is going to bitcoin now?

Do you mean if bitcoin dies then averything gonna collapses? I do not know what should happen if bitcoin died before altcoins

Change of management. As far as I know Nova has been sold and the new owners are changing or upgrading the platform.

After the fork, it will be Bitcoin's turn (probably all of it's flavour) to fall and altcoins will recover. This movement was expected, nothing new to see.

Altcoins are not dying. For me they are really cheap now. Actually now is the time to buy them. I have a few coins in my radar now i hope to buy them in the future.

I know that some altcoins are now falling because of the events that happend like the price increase in bitcoin, but now you got the chance to buy some coins.

Alts will continue to bite the dust at the rate new garbage coins are brought to market.

Some alt projects fulfill the original vision of Bitcoin better than the original, so there will always be alts to compliment the overall ecosystem.

I have lots of altcoin investments and I am not going to be sad because their prices got low. It is expected of the stellar performance of bitcoin now that its value is going up and a lot of people are selling their altcoins in favor of bitcoin. I fear a crash will be next.

This is a theory, nobody knows what will happen on the market, bitcoin maybe will rise to 10, maybe the others will fall but nobody will ever know

Altcoin gets hammered by bitcoin but this will not so long. I believe about the bitcoin maximalist will try to fud people to move to the bitcoin. I just think if this is an impact caused by that,
Altcoin will be back in the future.

So far most altcoins haven't produced anything yet, and Bitcoin has been forking multiple times as well. So it's not a surprise that altcoins are in a bear market right now. Once the first products and platforms get released this will probably change, perhaps a bit sooner.

Everybody knows why bitcoin is surging, but knobody new just how deep altcoins would fall. That is the problem. In the past altcoins actually grew the most when bitcoin was making new ath's it's crazy the amount of noobs coming in acting like pro's who actually don't know jack shit.

It's easy to look at the past and say "why didn't everyone sell there altcoins" we knew they were going to fall. That's noob talk.

yep, and to spring back from there (pun intended). I suppose as one stays in this game long enough you can see just how stupid (and too common) threads are like this, particularly after a bitcoin price surge.

im pretty sure anyone wont believe this and i know that we know that it is normal for the altcoins or other coins to decrease and partially die half alive but basing on the value of altcoin these days i can literally say that altcoins are indeed dying because most of them are still on red and seems stuck for days. yet i believe that altcoins will still bloom next week or two , after the bitcoin hype has passed.

Inb4 "Bitcoin is dying?!??" and "altcoins to the moon!"

I will stick with my philosophy of buy low, sell high  ;D :D

Yeah I totally agree, in this time altcoin have decreased it's just because the Bitcoin price to the moon,
I'm sure when the price of Bitcoin will be down then the altcoin to the moon back.

That is right buy low and sell high. That is also the most basic of my cryptocurrency trading beliefs that I still cherish, actually the only philosophy I can rely on. If altcoins are very low, then research and pick on one that you can be sure can bring good profits.

Well, that is a possibility but at the same time why the whales will want to get out when they can manipulate the market with such ease and they can make even more money by doing nothing, but even if you were right there is going to come a point in which alts are going to grow faster than bitcoin once again, so there is not much of a point in selling your alts right now since you are only going to lose money if you do that.

Wasn't crypto all about buy high sell higher and buy back even higher? :D

Only those great altcoins with great team can withstand the continuous Bitcoin Hype! ;)

Its a cycle, about 10 days to hardfork, see https://www.coingecko.com/en
And by then money may flow back into altcoins, didnt we see this before somewhere?

In the long term, yes. In the short term however, any piece of shit coins seems to be getting pumped. Hopefully this will stop soon so there'll be less scammy projects...

Not yet, just a few altcoins that may need to be drowned. However, a tough altcoin such as Eth or Strat will not be losing.

I don't see lot of "great altcoins" that are standing with the bitcoin hype! These forks are destroing them.

I heard there will be a third fork.. is it true?

Stratis fell close to 50% from a its price a month ago

We may be seeing the end for a lot of alt coins. There are way to many new alt coins flooding into the market, everyone is trying to get a piece of the pie. I don't see a lot of coins making it within the next few years. Maybe 100 coins tops.

Relax after the fork the good altcoins will bounce back. Even the bad projects will have their time in the next year. Just have patience.

Cheers

It's called Segwit2x, yes. Altcoins aren't getting destroyed though, it just takes time for assets to appreciate and most altcoins haven't produced anything of value so far.

Decent projects will survive. As always, doing the research is the only way not to get burned.

Good project altcoin can only survive. This is the usual happen in altcoins price is very volatile it will dump and pump but it will rising high again. So invest altcoin that is worth of our money to spend and get earn.

Altcoin not die. Because, altcoin is needed as a benchmark for bitcoin. The current red trend is commonplace in crypto. Later, will be green again.

give it 2 more weeks and altcoins might be reborn again.

Do not murder yourself bro. That's exactly what they are and if you send them to your mind you're definitely the loser. You're just a beginner when you think about it. It's been a long time in the forum and you should know what to do when they happen. Just give me time and I'm sure that altcoins will rise again and you can recover your losses. So believe in me.

why so desperate..and comes to the point of murdering your self..altcoin is just waiting for their right time to shine.maybe thhis moment and the next morning is bitcoins time.but lets wait for the alts to explode.investors sooner make bet on alts.

There's no need to worry my friend

Alts would not die because i can say that in the TOP 100, most of the coins have far more better use case than Bitcoin.

Most of the coins has a Blockchain, Can Sent/Receive, Faster Transaction Time. Bitcoin has all the following too except slower Block time. Bitcoin only serves for payment purpose and it is the "Currency" in the Cryptocurrency Scene.

Without Alts, Bitcoin wouldn't perform much

generally speaking you can see an actual downtrend wen bitcoin rise but this is all related to approaching x2segwit fork so nothing to worry about,  after that money will get back to alts like everytime

consider that at actual bitcoin price level and fork price futures there is an instant return of 22% thanks to the chain split

Seriously? Common man, don't be so depressed. I know you might lost some money, but don't give up. The altcoins are upcomming. Maybe you should take a look to the deepOnion coin. This one wil rise within a year. Do not panic. The btc will fall down again and the altcoins come up. maybe you should go and buy some altcoins wich are very low at price and then hodl them for a year. Goodluck man!

Lol no, deeponion will never rise much. Even if it does, it will just be temporary and the priec actually has no reason to stay up any higher than it is right now which in my opinion is still quite overpriced. If you think about it, everyone obtained their ONION for free.

Also, project seems extremely shady for me. And it's not just me, plenty of others calling the devs out too.

Altcoins are a volatile subject OP, you should not be tempted to sell alts just because they're falling and buy just cause they're rising.

I don't have the feeling altcoins are dying at all.
Off course they was impacted in the last few days by bitcoin but they are still there, probably for a long time.

If its dying, but only temporarily because bitcoin market is surging because of the anticipation of segwit2x. In about 2 weeks, altcoin will see a green light. But not right now because all traders are going all in with bitcoin because of the free coins that they will be getting during the segwit2x. After that it will be back to normal to altcoin so no need to worries. On the other hand, its a good buying point because the price of almost all altcoin is cheap.

Don't lose hope my friend. The nightmare is almost over and the spotlight will turn on altcoins. Don't let your emotions get in your way in trading because it is the number one reason why traders lose so no matter what happens don't sell it.

Yes its true, due to unstoppable increase of bitcoin price it makes altcoins dead lol. But Im still not loosing hope, theres always right time for everything. And I avoid checking my bittrex acct. for me not to be affected of the dumps. I already set my desired price to sell my coins and hope it will happen soon.

You should change the title to 'Shitty alts will die but the strong ones will surpass their ATH once this bitcoincraze is over'. Every time bitcoin shoots up and the alts stay low we get threads like this, every time the alts shoot up and bitcoin stays low we get posts about bitcoin dying. When will people learn lol

They are not dying maybe joke coins are now dying but these are scam coins so don't worry. Most of the altcoins are unstable and bitcoin is now rising up. So this affects altcoins.

But don't worry even altcoins can recover and some day bitcoin will fall very hard and this will be the time for altcoins to rise up again.

Yeap.Bubble trouble.After such fast btc rise,it should go back some day.Its a rule.It must lower alts at the begining as well,butThen all the money will go into alts for some time.We should see profit

Some altcoins will die with your lack of professional roadmap others still develop strong like ETH, LTC, DASH, Monero, Bitcoin Cash. Time can determind anything, dont talk about what you dont know will happen.

I hope so. So not too much altcoin (or precisely shitcoin). Because i am convinced, some altcoins have only been developed as tool for dredging personal wealth that has no longterm roadmap.

It is the same cycle that happened a few months ago, within a time they will be in their maximum value.
The altcoins are not going to die, the issue are the shitcoins, those will disappear for sure.

In my opinion after bubble explosion of bitcoin, more likely that altcoin again goes up and dominance of bitcoin will be lower.

personally , i don't think they will die . they lost 20%-30% because some people dump alt to convert them in bitcoin .

wait 2 week and they come back . and maybe up for 20 % :)

Altcoins are going through hard times, but all shows of bitcoin will inevitably be suspended.

Some alts will eventually die, cause of bad team / dev / roadmap etc, but the problem with these forks is good projects suffers too.
If lots of users sell coins to get BTC it could lead to panic sell and significal decrease in cost

I don't believed that you will kill yourself just because of this things. It can' be deny that most of the altcoin now is totally crashing the value while bitcoin was rises up to the moon. But there are still few altcoin that will stand in the market which are listed in the top 50 coins in this industry.

Bitcoin rise up and altcoin will crashed down but I know there are still some altcoin that stay in the market.I dont think so it will die forever but it will be back soon as long its recovered and rise up again.Life of coin is flactuating increases and decreasing ,pump and dump and it will stand up again soon.

I do not think there is going to be an end to shit coins, investors love profits and even if the project does not look solid if they think they can make some money with it they are going to invest, they do not care about the long term well being of the community they only care about the money and that kind of thinking is the one that creates huge bubbles in which even good assets are overvalued.

Altcoins are not dying, they are down for now and eventually may pump after the hard fork. Let us wait for the result of hard fork if it is good for the altcoins or not.

Well, if you murder yourself, you will die and won't be able to see altcoins recovered from price dumping. There is no death except to altcoins that are shitcoins from the start and to those very emotional investors that would like to kill themselves at the first sight of very temporary dumping.  ;)

Which makes it all the more important to evaluate the market properly and to get in at the right time for value investors.

Lol! That is true, you will never see how altcoins recovered from the price drop.  ;D

When i started in trading, i am very emotional to the point that i wanted to throw away my cellphone because i feel so useless, because i do some mistakes and lost my money. But that was before, i am learning now how to hold my investment.

Yeah dude, I'm really in a bad mood. I bought Opus and Change, I regret it. I will only buy Bitcoin from now on. I just trust Stratis and Ethereum.  ???

Yes, You should believe yourself. But in this case, Because Bitcoin has grown too strongly, so you should sell your altcoins and invest in Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is the king of Crypto Currency.I Accept that,but ETH,Lite coin also survive for the long periods.Even it price is also Increasing  as like  a Bitcoin.Even Waves was survive from long periods.So you can trust the ETH,Waves and Lite coins.

Investing in ICOs was not profitable in the last 3 months, and now Bitcoin price has destroyed many ICOs because people are not investing too much, but if I were you, I would hold my tokens, and wait for Bitcoin to go down, it is expensive now.

Some altcoins may disappear or die due to certain fluctuations and maybe its technology didnt work. SO many factors that can cause it but i do believe it won't die easily. Lately altcoins went too deep because of bitcoins hardfork but it will soon recover, we just have to give it some time.

Can't stop myself from laughing while reading your sentiments but kidding aside it's expected that when bitcoin will make a new ath altcoins will drop because people will start selling their holdings over bitcoin. Though there are some altcoins that will really die eventually there are some that has potential and has a real use. We have to invest into that coins so that when bitcoin will at least calm down those coins will have their chance to grow again.

Totally agree on that as it happened before. It's important that the total marketcap is increasing. The market cap pf Bitcoin is almost 120 billion $ and can you guys imagine even 20 billion $ will move to altcoins? Let's hold the altcoins that you have and then take the action after fork.

They are not dying it seems that they are losing because the price of bitcoin is now really high if bitcoin falls down very hard altcoins will surely rise back up and recover from their loss.

Altcoins will also decrease because some people sell their altcoins in order to buy bitcoins now because it is now rising.

I think the same as you. If the bitcoin is destroyed, the Crypto system will stop because bitcoin is the framework of all Crypto. I think the bitcoin will be worth a lot more.

I believe some are dying but some are succeeding you only need to do is try to find hard. Observe first before Invest not all new altcoins are succeeding be a king observer.

is just a temporary drop because the segwit2x, all wanna get some free bitcoin so they sell their alts and buy bitcoin, i believe that after the fork we will see huge pump in most of alts, the only alts that will die is the shitty ones.

Agree 100 percent. This was a clickbait thread title and just as bad as when we see a major news source reading "Bitcoin is dying". It's very near sighted and just incorrect. Few people seem to have patience in this field anymore and start crying when anything is going down in the short term.

To the original poster: Choose good projects. Don't rely on other people to give you picks (i.e. a cryptotard). Actually do your own research and be patient. Many of the good projects will reach new all time highs.

Dying means they won't come back.

I think you probably understand what he meant :) they are not really dead, of course, but their value is pretty low. they will probably be revived after the forking events. this issue should also be done just wait. If it were so easy to make money from the crypto world, everyone would have left the real business they had and entered this world. Patience is very important. I think altcoins will come to much better levels after two or three months.

What if they are Hindu coins?

I can't really see Bitcoin going sideways for "a longer time" by the way. It's getting too much attention now to go into another 2-3 year drought.

Have some patience. Alts always bounce back.

Actually I like this daily up and down movement in alt-land. Good for practicing day trading. You win some - you loose some  ;D

if price of bitcoin keeps going up like it is.....will make some of this investments in altcoins useless down like 60% and not an end in sight

With this rate they will be giving out free altcoins in the streets. Its no good to hold them if they are wiped out regulary.

yeah u r rite but it is temporary ..and it is the best time to invest in ..

People have been saying that for 6 months as it continues to fall. If you zoom out on the charts you can see that Alts have lost all the gains they had made vs bitcoin earlier this year. It looks like we're going right back in to a flat vs bitcoin like it was in 2015-2016. Zoom all the way out on the daily charts. Does it look like Alts will rise vs bitcoin?

Yea I know what you mean. BTC is rising so high and don't give any Altcoins to breath. Most of Altcoins are in red color bleeding. But, it will be normal again, there will be correction to all Altcoins including BTC it self. We will see and hope the situation will be better for us.

This is because the cash flow from altcoin is transferring to bitcoin, resulting in a dramatic increase in bitcoin and a decrease in altcoin. I also hold a lot of altcoin and I think it will increase again in early 2018. You should not be too worried about altcoin because 2018 will be a strong year for the entire crypto market.

It is because of FOMO with bitcoin. There are lined up forks upcoming and everyone wants free coins. who doesn't. And so instead of the money that should be on alts, it is being invested on bitcoins. This will be over soon and alts will rise again :)

Maybe you gust schould chill. Why is everybody going crazy when the altcoins are dumping. Wenn the BTC is on a strong pump, the most people are selling their altcoins to pump eveything they got in BTC to earn more, to reinvest in altcoins ;)

I'm not worried about this one dump, but the long term bear market vs btc is what hurts. Looking at the charts now it looks like this could end up being a 1-2 year alt bearmarket vs bitcoin. If you have real money invested and have lost 10-20 bitcoins because you got stuck holding Alts waiting for a change, it's normal to worry.

Altcoins that dont have any serious team behind them or those that are not based in a serious project will die. But there are also altcoins that will last and will have a bright future. Take a look at IOTA  ;)

It's prob the worst time to buy iota. It's seriously over hyped!

Posts like that make feel that bottom seems to be near. I did not expect those heavy dumps.

But I am happy that I can accumulate more crypto assets for bargain prices.

They will bounce, every time it bounce and there are a new fomo after such pumps;)

If bitcoin does not come down, altcoins will not recover. Its painful to hold on to alts. But few more days and then bears come...

NXT did 5x in 5 days, the same that for BTC took MONTHS.

But, hey...ALTs are dying  ;)

Alts are only dropping because people are moving from alts to btc then from btc to usd. We will see the rise of all alts sometime early next year.

Lol dieing? What are you drinking

Everyone already knew that, old stories. But it very hard for bitcoin to have 100% gain in short term while altcoin can.

Do not get so upset, I think no one will die, although they are bleeding now .. Very soon everything will be better, look, the BTC rate is already correcting right now

hmm.. Yes, bitcoin is bullish, but alts are not dying..

Its not the bitcoin murdered them. The bitcoin has no fault on altcoins sad ending, it so happen that bitcoin is continually roaring and rising unstoppably.

Altcoins are not dying for sure nor it's dead. Bitcoin has reached new high at $18,000+ before it slowly falls down to $15,000 and yes, it's affecting the altcoins since it's an indication that they're dumping their altcoins for bitcoins.But despite all that, Litecoin and Dogecoin continues to rise.

IOTA is a coin with serious team and project behind. The last deals with Microsoft, Cisco, Samsung, Volkswagen etc. prove that.
If you are talking for short term trading i would prefer forex and not coins. Some altcoins are very good investments for future.
Im into investments and not "short-term" games buying and selling after a couple of cents.

Or new doom and alts will update their 2-year bottoms, so my alt portfolio will lose more than 90% value, i am fine with that.
The only thing that now plays a role - BTC fomo. So i will recommend to buy BTC Right Now!.

Yes altcoins are not dying though bitcoin continues to explode. For sure there will be a momentum for altcoins once bitcoin stabilize its value. The price of bitcoin is very high so I think there will be a correction always happen but lets see.

Altcoins do not die, but come alive :) If you look at the price of Altcoins in dollar terms according to last month, you will see that they are all rising.

I agree it seems some altcoins are gaining in USD but totally losing vs btc. I would rather have a huge crash and lose vs the $ but gain more satoshi.

Bitcoin are still torturing majority of the altcoins and I think that it will continue by the end of the year or could still happen in the first months of 2018 so I converted everything of my altcoins to btc.

Altcoins have their time  to recover and not dying. Many of them are good for long term investment like ethereum, ripple, IOTA and litecoin. It is good to buy some of them now as they still cheap compared to bitcoin skyhigh price.

I am agree with you, however bitcoin could be a pioneer in cryptocurrency at this time. look at the price now, who knows ?

Some altcoins are going to disappear at the end of this year or on next year i think. They are going to be worth less than 1 satochis or maybe 0.

Altcoins will survive the bull run of Bitcoin. There are many good altcoins they not only survive but also perform.

Altcoins are not dead just because of the forks all the attention was on bTC but closer to spring I think the situation cardinally changed. BTC will sooner or later become very expensive for the majority of investors and all the new players will go out and buy immediately altcoins then there is the heat.

Hello,
I was in Malta this week for a Blockchain conference, 300+ people and there were lots of interest for altcoins. People are simply more selective, and this is quite reasonable.

it is not true to say altcoins are dying, i can see a lot of altcoins are rising despite many others are being dominated by bitcoin rising but bitcoin wont rise for long, this is just a temporary time, they surely will be back in the future.

Guess they rose from the ashes.

Altcoins are altcoins. They will have a value then once there is a newer coin to take its place the people in the previous coin will cash out then move to the other coin.

Atlcoins are still kicking real hard. Bitcoin will fall soon only to rise again and I don't think that means Altcoins are dead/will die. If bitcoin should fall permanently, pretty much a new golden coin will fill its place, might not be up to btc but good enough.