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Bitcoin => Hardware => Topic started by: xboxgames on June 10, 2013, 09:01:35 PM



Title: Block Eruptor
Post by: xboxgames on June 10, 2013, 09:01:35 PM
So, if I buy one of these things, and use it at work, heres my question.

I am unable to use any bitcoin clients that need to download the blockchain (firewall), so, if I plus this into my computer, will it work?  Or do I have to be able to open specific ports on my computers firewall (which I cannot do)


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: SebastianJu on June 10, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Use it at work? Because of no cost power? Thats not a good idea. People got fired because they loaded their smartphone at work and took the power without asking or paying for it. Risky if thats your plan.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: xboxgames on June 10, 2013, 09:08:33 PM
Its a small USB block eruptor, and my bosses do not care.  They play on their phones all day, we basically work in cubicals and do nothing :)


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: rammy2k2 on June 10, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
Use it at work? Because of no cost power? Thats not a good idea. People got fired because they loaded their smartphone at work and took the power without asking or paying for it. Risky if thats your plan.

ROFL ... are u serious ?!  Where do u live ?


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: SebastianJu on June 10, 2013, 09:26:15 PM
Use it at work? Because of no cost power? Thats not a good idea. People got fired because they loaded their smartphone at work and took the power without asking or paying for it. Risky if thats your plan.

ROFL ... are u serious ?!  Where do u live ?

Germany.... oO and yes its nuts but true... Here the smallest things can lead to being fired.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: xboxgames on June 10, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
Well we have established that this will not get me fired.  So, can anyone answer my question?


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: turtle83 on June 10, 2013, 09:39:38 PM
So, if I buy one of these things, and use it at work, heres my question.

I am unable to use any bitcoin clients that need to download the blockchain (firewall), so, if I plus this into my computer, will it work?  Or do I have to be able to open specific ports on my computers firewall (which I cannot do)

To answer your particular question.... it depends... you would most likely not be able to use any stratrum pools, but the pools using longpoll (esp if it runs on port 80) should be fine... ymmw ... but if your computers firewall only allows certain authorized programs to use internet... then you probably cant get a mining application to talk to the pool...


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: joshv06 on June 10, 2013, 09:44:04 PM
I used to leave my work laptop mining at work last year. No one suspected a thing. We leave our computers on non-stop anyway. Try it out, if it doesn't work then you know. I worked in a data-center.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: xboxgames on June 10, 2013, 09:48:57 PM
So, if I buy one of these things, and use it at work, heres my question.

I am unable to use any bitcoin clients that need to download the blockchain (firewall), so, if I plus this into my computer, will it work?  Or do I have to be able to open specific ports on my computers firewall (which I cannot do)

To answer your particular question.... it depends... you would most likely not be able to use any stratrum pools, but the pools using longpoll (esp if it runs on port 80) should be fine... ymmw ... but if your computers firewall only allows certain authorized programs to use internet... then you probably cant get a mining application to talk to the pool...

Our firewall blocks like gambling sites, and peer to peer stuff.  Facebooks, etc is all ok.  For example, I cannot use multibit, but I can use other downloaded programs. 

I suppose I will just leave it on at home.  I cant imagine these things increasing an electric bill that much


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: grue on June 10, 2013, 10:55:42 PM
Mining operates using http or tcp on ports in the 8000-9000 range. They are outgoing TCP connections so they can traverse firewalls without issue. Some pools even have port 80 mining so the traffic appears to be the same as normal web traffic.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: xboxgames on June 10, 2013, 11:00:34 PM
Mining operates using http or tcp on ports in the 8000-9000 range. They are outgoing TCP connections so they can traverse firewalls without issue. Some pools even have port 80 mining so the traffic appears to be the same as normal web traffic.

So I am an idiot.  Basically, I can use a pool that has port 80 and I will be fine.
If so, I may buy 2 for my computer, since we are always online and I have 2 USB ports on my computer in my cubicle


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: suryc on June 10, 2013, 11:02:34 PM
I think you can even use bitminter's java client now, so no need to install any software on your work computer...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: grue on June 10, 2013, 11:15:41 PM
Mining operates using http or tcp on ports in the 8000-9000 range. They are outgoing TCP connections so they can traverse firewalls without issue. Some pools even have port 80 mining so the traffic appears to be the same as normal web traffic.

So I am an idiot.  Basically, I can use a pool that has port 80 and I will be fine.
If so, I may buy 2 for my computer, since we are always online and I have 2 USB ports on my computer in my cubicle
Most corporate firewalls allow TCP outbound, and port 80 mining is indistinguishable from web/http traffic. Your company can still block bitcoin pools via dns/ip. But it's highly unlikely. You can always test by running cgminer (CPU mine mode) on your workstation.


I think you can even use bitminter's java client now, so no need to install any software on your work computer...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163
I highly doubt bitminter has USB support. Also, you don't need to "install" any miner. cgminer, poclbm, and phoenix require no installation.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: suryc on June 10, 2013, 11:29:18 PM
I think you can even use bitminter's java client now, so no need to install any software on your work computer...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163
I highly doubt bitminter has USB support. Also, you don't need to "install" any miner. cgminer, poclbm, and phoenix require no installation.

Apparently, Bitminter does have usb support and people seem to have it working with their block erupter USBs albeit with mixed results.
That's why I mentioned it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163.msg2340395#msg2340395

I do agree that cgminer is a better option (and I use that almost exclusively myself), but imho bitminter client is quicker and easier to use and requires no configuration. Its just a matter of preference.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: DBOD on June 10, 2013, 11:42:35 PM
I've been using mine with BTCGuild without any issues.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: xboxgames on June 10, 2013, 11:55:05 PM
Would you guys help me set it up with cgminer if I buy it?


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: LaserHorse on June 11, 2013, 12:08:45 AM
Would you guys help me set it up with cgminer if I buy it?

There's actually lots of info already posted which will likely help you out.  This thread for starters:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220905.0


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: af_newbie on June 11, 2013, 12:48:18 AM
Most corporate firewalls allow TCP outbound, and port 80 mining is indistinguishable from web/http traffic. Your company can still block bitcoin pools via dns/ip. But it's highly unlikely. You can always test by running cgminer (CPU mine mode) on your workstation.

If his co has half decent security dept., they will call him the moment he starts his miner.  Very few miners set Firefox/IE user agent strings.
"cgminer" or "bitminter" in web proxy reports will raise red flags.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: farproc on June 11, 2013, 02:53:55 PM
No need to run a bitcoin client in order to mining.
Plug the Eruptor USB, install driver(if Windows), configure and run cgminer with a pool.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: af_newbie on June 11, 2013, 11:45:09 PM
No need to run a bitcoin client in order to mining.
Plug the Eruptor USB, install driver(if Windows), configure and run cgminer with a pool.

You forgot to tell him to call his company network administrator and ask him to look the other way when cgminer traffic goes through the HTTP proxy.

Mining pool hosts in the proxy reports will raise big red flags.


Title: Re: Block Eruptor
Post by: dogie on June 11, 2013, 11:46:22 PM
No need to run a bitcoin client in order to mining.
Plug the Eruptor USB, install driver(if Windows), configure and run cgminer with a pool.

You forgot to tell him to call his company network administrator and ask him to look the other way when cgminer traffic goes through the HTTP proxy.

Mining pool hosts in the proxy reports will raise big red flags.

What, you mean that like 2kb of data every 10 seconds?