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Title: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Open Source Everything
Post by: wancho on October 25, 2017, 03:13:03 PM
Open Source Everything, Society's Future Living
ICO Date: TBD
ENVIENTA CAMPAIGN AT KICKICO (https://www.kickico.com/campaigns/6003/envienta-home-of-the-future-with-efficiency/)

BOUNTY THREAD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353771.0)

ANN Translations
RUSSIAN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2351118.msg23961197#msg23961197)
ITALIAN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410276)
SPANISH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2413634.0)
HINDI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2437659.new#new)
GERMAN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2433585)


https://i.imgur.com/XjinW7F.jpg (http://envienta.com/downloads/envienta_alternative_lifestyle.pdf)
https://i.imgur.com/YoWuZiA.jpg (http://envienta.com/whitelist.php)

I. WHAT IS ENVIENTA?

THE CHALLENGE
Suffering from income inequality, financial problems and without alternatives, growing number of people can’t afford appropriate housing, access to resources and enjoy the benefits of sustainable technological innovations.


OUR VISION


Imagine if people from different fields of expertise work together to open source everything in the household. This way, the technological breakthroughs appear way faster into our daily life, instead of patent-protected R&D environments. We truly believe that the next industrial revolution is about exponential open source technologies, large scale cooperation, redistribution of resources and environmental sustainability at the same time.


ENVIENTA OPEN SOURCE EVERYTHING


ENVIENTA is a next generation sharing economy model, a DIY maker movement, a community-based solution package and ultimately the sustainable, cost-effective and decentralized socioeconomic framework of the 21st century. ENVIENTA is also a P2P open source platform cooperative, which provides share of know-how, blueprints, products and resources for the members. We're operating as a community controlled initiative with full transparency and as a registered non-profit organization in Spain and Hungary.
THEORY OF EVERYTHING
When things we produce and our homes become a mini-IoT infrastructure that connect communities across regions, the economic paradigm changes.

HOW DO WE GET THERE ?


II. TOKEN RELEASE AND IMPLEMENTATION

ENVIENTA is a bottom-up initiative that, thanks to the open source approach, can be a source of radical changes. Here we offer a stake by ENVIENTA ICO.
The implementation is divided into four phases, depending on how many tokens will we be able to sell and how much capital can we collect.





PHASE 1 - ENVIENTA PROJECT CENTER | 1000 ETH (SOFT CAP)


Building the first project center on Canary Islands, Spain. Our investment plans are always adjusting to the local weather and environmental conditions, containing the easiest locally available and possibly recyclable materials, considering the available expertise and workforce to reduce the expenses. We're using the latest available technology during the constructions and focusing on the combination of accommodation, food supply and local production with a fully digital E-Manufactory. ENVIENTA ultimately provides cheap and well-designed living for individuals, families and communities as an IoT based alternative lifestyle of the near future.

Read more:https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/about-the-construction-phase-1-3ec0423836b0 (https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/about-the-construction-phase-1-3ec0423836b0)



PHASE 2 - ENVIENTA EDUCATION | 1000 - 2000 ETH
If we can acquire the capital needed for Phase 2, we can develop further our training program and spread ENVIENTA’s philosophy and know-how in big volume. Some of these courses and MOOCS are free of charge and available online thanks to the commons approach. Educating useful techniques to address local and global challenges, inspiring and empowering citizens, students, cultural workers, entrepreneurs, adult educators, facilitators of change, coaches and communities wanting to develop collaborative and participatory practices to empower social change and steward resources. ENVIENTA is committed to creating positive global impact through the millions of people who benefit from our ongoing programs and activities.
MORE:https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/a-better-world-through-education-phase-2-24086fe3eaa9 (https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/a-better-world-through-education-phase-2-24086fe3eaa9)


PHASE 3 - ENVIENTA PLATFORM | 2000 - 3000 ETH


The really interesting things can be done in Phase 3. The goal here is to develop further and finalize our software platform. ENVIENTA is the first crowdfunding platform aims to speed up the collaborative open source product development, from ideas to prototypes, sales/distribution throughout their life cycle based on circular economy principles.
Basically, open source hardware developments are the primary target area, but we also support the development of software and even new social and economic models (e.g. DAOs). Developing the ENVIENTA platform will serve as a kind of startup incubator and as an additional center of other open source hardware projects. The platform will provide collaborative services for the developers for free, will provide legal protection for open source projects and help bring demand and supply together
Read More:https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/platform-and-community-workplace-phase-3-6db462553a83 (https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/platform-and-community-workplace-phase-3-6db462553a83)


PHASE 4 - PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION | 3000 - 5000 ETH (HARD CAP)

Phase 4 is the implementation of decentralized production and distribution. This is the last step where ideas from the platform can become real, tangible products and we have to provide financial, marketing and manufacturing related analysis continuously to the open source hardware.
As ENVIENTA will never have a huge development team, we certainly do not want to put production lines into service. Instead, we will create a kind of franchise system that will make it possible for anyone to become a manufacturer of ENVIENTA products, giving an endlessly scalable manufacturing capacity to all. To apply, several conditions must be met by that manufacturer. These will include support for open source projects as well as the support for ENVIENTA also. So you can build a lean business model around open source hardware.

Read More:https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/decentralized-development-and-production-phase-4-b501cb458f20 (https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/decentralized-development-and-production-phase-4-b501cb458f20)





III. TOKEN DISTRIBUTION AND SUMMARY
Project Name: ENVIENTA
Token Symbol: ENV
Website: envienta.com
 (http://envienta.com/)

Whitepaper: http://envienta.com/downloads/envienta_alternative_lifestyle.pdf (http://envienta.com/downloads/envienta_alternative_lifestyle.pdf)
Soft Cap: 1,000 ETH
Hard Cap: 5,000 ETH
(ICO contributors own 47,4% of total token supply if hard cap is reached)



Maximum Market Cap at ICO: 12,000 ETH if Hard Cap is reached

Conversion Rate: 1 ETH = 100 ENV

https://i.imgur.com/wIQXWb7.jpg

Bonus Structure: 1 ETH = 100 ENV

https://i.imgur.com/lL1Q3OF.jpg
100 ENV (ENVIENTA token) is worth 1 ETH. During the ICO token sale campaign, we highly value our first investors, thus we have defined the following bonus structure. The first milestone is reaching an investment of 1000 ETH (this is what we call a soft cap). This amount is enough to make the first phase of our project come true. In short, if you invest into the ENVIENTA ICO during the first phase of collecting 1000 ETH, for every token bought, the smart contract will credit you 1.3 times more in your ERC20 wallet.

Between 1000 and 2000 ETH the multiplier is 1.15, so for every ETH invested, instead of 100 ENV, the system will allocate 115 ENV to you..
During the campaign, 100 ENV (ENVIENTA token) is worth 1 ETH.
+ 30% bonus for contributors before reaching soft cap (1,000 ETH)
+ 15% bonus before reaching 2,000 ETH


Fund Raising Platform: KICKICO.com  (based on Ethereum)

Timeline: TBD

Token Distribution Rate: TBD



THE ENVIENTA TEAM


https://i.imgur.com/XjinW7F.jpg (http://envienta.com/downloads/envienta_alternative_lifestyle.pdf)
https://i.imgur.com/YoWuZiA.jpg (http://envienta.com/whitelist.php)


CONTACT:

Asociación ENVIENTA Open Source Ecología, C/ Lanzarote Duplex Eurovillas No. 15., San Fernando De Maspalomas, 35100 | San Bartolome De Tirajana, Spain

FOLLOW US

WEBSITE (https://envienta.com//) | BLOG (https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything) | TWITTER (https://https://twitter.com/envienta) | TELEGRAM (https://t.me/joinchat/Dn4edwyAmZcXasDt-y8T9A) | GITHUB (https://github.com/EnvientaGit) | FACEBOOK (https://web.facebook.com/envienta/) | YOUTUBE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbS_n6qVwLtyVlwFYMjq4og/videos) | LINKEDIN (https://www.linkedin.com/company/envienta-ngo)




Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on October 25, 2017, 03:31:14 PM
Bounty is Live Now! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353771.0


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Rengganis on October 25, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
I can only say, congratulations and success to ENVIENTA, I will bookmark this and very excited to join the bounty


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Arpetuos on October 25, 2017, 05:09:27 PM
Hey !

That's a great job ! It's visually correct.
I'll be glad to participate in a translation bounty. (French and German are my 2 other main languages)

Good luck !


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Arteezy.rtx on October 25, 2017, 05:10:29 PM
yes. i think this is great project! reserve indonesian translation if needed


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Richardnoordsche on October 25, 2017, 05:35:20 PM
2 same threads? I think this is too much, just this enough, because it is very sufficient to attract investors


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on October 26, 2017, 05:24:44 AM
I can only say, congratulations and success to ENVIENTA, I will bookmark this and very excited to join the bounty

thanks for the feedback, if you have any questions join our telegram.


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on October 26, 2017, 05:25:38 AM
Hey !

That's a great job ! It's visually correct.
I'll be glad to participate in a translation bounty. (French and German are my 2 other main languages)

Good luck !

join our telegram, we will launch it soon.


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: jimhuang on October 26, 2017, 05:26:45 AM
We are going to have a bounty program soon please refer to our telegram for questions, tg://join?invite=Dn4edwyAmZcXasDt-y8T9A (http://tg://join?invite=Dn4edwyAmZcXasDt-y8T9A)

i think this team is very strong . wait for the bounty


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on October 26, 2017, 05:34:15 AM
2 same threads? I think this is too much, just this enough, because it is very sufficient to attract investors

We fix some issues regarding to our old thread. Please stay still for our announcements.


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Dlugina23 on October 26, 2017, 05:48:28 AM
When ico start and end?


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on October 26, 2017, 08:04:12 AM
When ico start and end?

Sorry we have no date yet, Kickico will launch it so they will decide when to. Please wait for further announcements or join our telegram to meet the devs.


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: darherdy on October 27, 2017, 04:45:00 PM
It's a nice project, I trust its dev team and hope it has a bright future!


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on October 28, 2017, 03:34:45 AM
It's a nice project, I trust its dev team and hope it has a bright future!

thank you for you response, join our telegram if you have any question or just ask on this thread. Please read our whitepaper for more infos.


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Community Support on October 29, 2017, 09:29:49 AM
Wow, a total game changer to the society. As I saw on the picture on the Whitepaper it makes the technology and nature go well. An IoT house right ? Sure a good project but why does the soft cap is very low compared to other project that has no product that worth their soft caps?


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: TheBojda on October 31, 2017, 07:52:12 AM
The soft cap (1000 ETH) is enough for building the education center, which is also a prototype of our building and components of our infrastructure. It is not a big amount of money, but it is enough, because the aim of these buildings is to be cheap and easily produced. Every component will be open sourced, so you can build your own, or you can buy one from us. But these component wont be manufactured by  ENVIENTA directly. Anybody can join us as a producing partner. So, we are building not just a business, but a community. A software developer community, a hardware development community, a manufacturing community, etc. This community and the open source philosophy are the special abilities of ENVIENTA. This is why we can build our project from this small amount of money. If you want to understand deeply our philosophy, please read our articles on medium: https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything    


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 04, 2017, 04:39:05 AM
I can only say, congratulations and success to ENVIENTA, I will bookmark this and very excited to join the bounty

bounty is live now please here's the link we only have 2 bounty pools. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353771.0


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 04, 2017, 04:40:34 AM
I'm curious how this will develop. This coin is interesting and has an interesting future.

thanks for the feedback support us by joining our bounty campaign :)


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: marimobaka on November 04, 2017, 04:41:16 AM
a nice project n will be profitable.
hope this project success, how to joined bounty hunter? just joined your telegroup?


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: innocent93 on November 04, 2017, 04:42:48 AM
Please reserve romanian yranslation if needed


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 04, 2017, 04:44:29 AM
a nice project n will be profitable.
hope this project success, how to joined bounty hunter? just joined your telegroup?

You can see the details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353771.0 we only have 2 bounty pools but have high rewards :)


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 04, 2017, 04:49:17 AM
a nice project n will be profitable.
hope this project success, how to joined bounty hunter? just joined your telegroup?


please go to our bounty thread for this discussion this is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353771.0


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: siddartha1492 on November 04, 2017, 04:49:24 AM
The project seems to have good potential. Can you please share the links of your team linkdn profiles? Also what real world projects have you worked on before?


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 08, 2017, 02:46:21 PM
Article http://envienta.net/envienta/envienta-lifestyle-building-blocks-for-a-new-world/


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 11, 2017, 07:39:06 AM
Hello guys, let me share our opinion about KICKICO’s new mandatory about soft and hard cap... if you can share this blogpost on social media it will be nice. Thanks a lot and have a nice evening! https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/open-letter-to-anti-danielevski-143a75c0bcc6 (https://medium.com/envienta-open-source-everything/open-letter-to-anti-danielevski-143a75c0bcc6)


written by: Our Co-Founder and Community Manager Gabriel Varaljay


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 11, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
We have reached a strategic point when we have to talk about our advisors as well. Within ENVIENTA, many professionals are helping our work at part-time or in specific phases, but there are some tasks when we have to work with external consultants in some special areas.

In the “Advisors” section, we will introduce them one by one.

The name, Gusztáv Vágvölgyi, could be familiar to many people, as Pablo was one of the lecturers (in Hungarian) at OSCEDays 2017 Budapest conference (organized by ENVIENTA).

https://i.imgur.com/Qw5Oe4V.jpg

Community business developer, trainer, facilitator, organisation developer, coach
Let me share with you Pablo’s introduction:

“I am a theoretical person, I believe that understanding the nature of things will help to make them work in practice even that seems subjective like as a community quality. As an organizational developer, I have found that any organizational problem can be traced back to the quality of human relationships, so I am currently working on the development of a community business as an organizational model. I want to share the knowledge that I gathered and make it easy to access for everyone who works on such a great things just like the ENVIENTA team. I believe that community quality can greatly contribute to achieving the goals of social sustainability initiatives, so I help ENVIENTA with my organizational development skills.“


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 13, 2017, 07:44:50 AM
Hi, guys, tell me where are you incorporated?


Asociación ENVIENTA Open Source Ecología, C/ Lanzarote Duplex Eurovillas No. 15., San Fernando De Maspalomas, 35100 | San Bartolome De Tirajana, Spain


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: xapwxrm5742 on November 13, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
How much the bounty in the total supply ?
it looks not post in here


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Community Support on November 14, 2017, 01:47:03 PM
If the hardcap is reach when will you think the ENVIENTA will reach the foreign countries?


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: Wancho Support on November 14, 2017, 01:53:23 PM
The 90 eth or other IoT house will be purchase by ENV tokens right? and once ENVIENTA become international or having offices to other countries those who have ENV tokens can buy/build an IoT house to their own country right?


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 14, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
How much the bounty in the total supply ?
it looks not post in here

the allocated tokens for marketing is 3.5% or 42,000 ENV, it is for the whole marketing of ENVIENTA project not just for our bounty programs.if you have a 90 eth/worth in fiat (or 9000 ENV tokens only when ENVIENTA have a partnership with the manufacturers) you can purchase the materials for a mini IoT apartment but the labor cost is not there, it varies from country to country. You can earn some ENV tokens through our bounty programs too, not that much but still having ENV tokens will allow you to purchase some ENVIENTA products/services.


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 16, 2017, 08:00:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/mgDKB4Q.jpg
We are pleased to announce Dr. Alexandra Köves, an ecological economist at the Corvinus University of Budapest, as an advisor at the ENVIENTA project.
Full article here:
https://goo.gl/scbJJU (https://goo.gl/scbJJU)

Interview at Dr. Alexandra Köves https://youtu.be/6VlxMgpemmw (https://youtu.be/6VlxMgpemmw)


Title: Re: ENVIENTA ICO - The Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 16, 2017, 11:36:36 PM
If the hardcap is reach when will you think the ENVIENTA will reach the foreign countries?


Well, it depends on the progress of ENVIENTA but as soon as we reach the soft cap or hard cap we will start working base on the Roadmap we shown.


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: bribed on November 16, 2017, 11:57:58 PM
This project definitely caught my attention. I will keep an eye open for it, the future is looking bright. I love everything that is self-sustaining! Keep it up Envienta!


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 17, 2017, 08:34:44 AM
This project definitely caught my attention. I will keep an eye open for it, the future is looking bright. I love everything that is self-sustaining! Keep it up Envienta!


It is the future home for the new generations,an eco-friendly project made to support itself. Natural resources are being abuse and ENVIENTA is one of the key to balance the nature and technology.


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 18, 2017, 04:54:02 PM
The ENVIENTA Magyarország team are working remotely from all across Europe to collaborate on their ICO strategy and outreach.
https://i.imgur.com/VQxVtvm.jpg

Maybe we're not that cool here on bitcointalk, but we're being supported accross Europe ! A green project for a greener cause. Courtesy of Social-Digital Innovation https://www.facebook.com/socialdigital/


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: gweigster on November 19, 2017, 03:05:21 PM
What an ambitious project! I am very glad that you asked me to translate for you.

I am very curious what the future holds for ENVIENTA, but I am convinced it will be awesome


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 21, 2017, 02:43:02 AM
What an ambitious project! I am very glad that you asked me to translate for you.

I am very curious what the future holds for ENVIENTA, but I am convinced it will be awesome


Read the whitepaper ? Seen our soft cap and high cap, it is one of the few things that define this project's noble ideals about our world.


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 21, 2017, 01:06:13 PM
Just a quick reminder for the ones who need it  WHITELIST WHITELIST WHITELIST... We cannot press this enough.
https://youtu.be/WDJadvIHlmw  http://envienta.com/whitelist.php (https://youtu.be/WDJadvIHlmw  http://envienta.com/whitelist.php)
YouTube
Noemi Huszar - ENVIENTA ICO - Whitelist Sign Up - 21.11.2017.
Sign up here: http://envienta.com/whitelist.php (http://envienta.com/whitelist.php)


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: wancho on November 22, 2017, 12:03:34 PM
ENVIENTA in the Social-Digital Innovation Initiative

In the fall of 2017 the ENVIENTA project was selected into a non-profit, non-equity, independent development program for social projects using tech; with a modular offering designed flexibly to fit any local context. The Social-Digital Innovation Initiative (SDI) is committed to creating a world where social solutions use technologies meaningfully, are impact driven, sustainable and benefit and belong to those who create them.
https://i.imgur.com/5bCsKwS.jpg

Learn more here: https://sdinnovation.org (https://sdinnovation.org)


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: d5000 on November 23, 2017, 04:44:58 AM
Looks interesting. There are "a bit many" buzzwords in your website/whitepaper, but as I'm a Post-scarcity-libertarian nerd, I'll follow and investigate your project (that doesn't necessarily mean I will invest in it). ;D

Is Envienta related to the "Open Source Ecology (http://opensourceecology.org/)" project started by Marcin Jakubowski? The goals seem to be very similar (and you mention it in you association name), but do you have organizational ties or share technology?

Another question: I find almost no independent information about the Envienta project (but that may be related to the mother tongue of the founders being probably Hungarian). Could you provide me links to newspaper/blog/mag articles about your project, in whatever language?


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: GaborKiss on November 23, 2017, 03:49:37 PM
Looks interesting. There are "a bit many" buzzwords in your website/whitepaper, but as I'm a Post-scarcity-libertarian nerd, I'll follow and investigate your project (that doesn't necessarily mean I will invest in it). ;D

Is Envienta related to the "Open Source Ecology (http://opensourceecology.org/)" project started by Marcin Jakubowski? The goals seem to be very similar (and you mention it in you association name), but do you have organizational ties or share technology?

Another question: I find almost no independent information about the Envienta project (but that may be related to the mother tongue of the founders being probably Hungarian). Could you provide me links to newspaper/blog/mag articles about your project, in whatever language?

These "buzzwords" are actually existing exponential technologies that our research and development activities and divisions built upon. There is no magic here, but partners from different fields, connecting to our project with their deep expertise, since Envienta is more likely addressing possible integrations and synergies between these exponential fields. That is why we rely on open source, holistic approach to accelerate the integration process. Buzzwords have an interesting nature, think about it: after someone build a working and well scalable model and platform, like ENVIENTA do, and we're all starting to get used to these expressions on daily basis, these are not buzzwords any more.

Inspiration came from observing the same trends in the open source software market (Android, Linux, Ethereum, etc.) in the last 20 years, exactly the same will happen to open source hardware. During the planning phase around 2015, we found there is an existing project (Open Source Ecology) in the US with almost the same approach, focusing on mostly agricultural machines. We thought that would be great to collaborate soon, assuming that strategic partnerhips could move forward everyone. We contacted with Marcin Jakubowski, sending all the materials we had that time, including the White Paper, but there were no answer from OSE. Instead we were notified on the Collaborative Commons Economies Conference in Barcelona, that Open Source Ecology as a name has a trademark protection in the US, so we have to stop to use it. So we're not using these expressions any more, although it's a bit weird to protect expressions containing "open source ecology" by law. It's like making copyright on "drinkable water" as a brand name. Anyway, synchronicity works very well as we know, in the same time when OSE got familiar with Envienta's approach focusing on self-sustainable households they started the Open Building Institute project focusing on the same goals. So the answer is yes, that would be still great to collaborate and no, we're still not in collaboration, God knows why.

Yes, you're right, the hungarian language is an obstacle. As I used to say, we hungarians have to do everything twice and with double efforts to make something relevant to the world. Consider this, you grown up in a tiny country, where we were taught to speak russian, as the only foreign language that could be useful behind the great Berlin wall. Then suddenly you have to forget it, and learn english at least, because like the sunflower we turned to the west. The other thing is, that Envienta were created by hungarian expats living in the UK, Spain, Denmark, etc. We have no roots and lifelong friends in these countries, thus we have no connections to the media. Although I worked for the biggest media channel in Hungary, it's full with celebrities and reality shows, Envienta is not relevant from this point of view.

Anyway, yeah there are not so much media coverage about Envienta in the wordlwide big press, this project is only 2 years old, baby age. But it gets bigger soon.

You don't have to look for hungarian sources, here they are:
http://recity.hu/fokusz/236-envienta-projekt-a-megosztasra-epulo-tarsadalomert
http://startupper.hu/interju-envienta/
https://komlomedia.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/envienta-ekolucio-folyamatban/
http://varaljay.com/2015/03/envienta/
http://hu.alternativgazdasag.wikia.com/wiki/Envienta_Magyarorsz%C3%A1g
https://tudatosfiatalok.com/paradigma/udvozlet-az-aranykorban/
http://www.programok-budapest.hu/muvelodesi-szint-muszi/envienta-a-kozossegi-jovo-a-tudasmegosztas-napjai
http://amivilagunk11-12.blogspot.com.es/2017/10/envienta-kozossegi-jovo-konferencia.html
http://mkh.valosag.net/index.php/temakoeroek/oenellatas/3579-envienta--ekolucio-folyamatban
http://erdelyipolgar.blogspot.com.es/2015/04/az-eroforras-alapu-gazdasag-fele-az.html

For english sources use Google, I found this one that is relevant enough:
https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Envienta


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: d5000 on November 23, 2017, 09:23:00 PM
Thank you for your answer!

I already had googled for English and Spanish sources, but had found almost nothing outside of your web pages (.net and .com) and the KickICO sites. That's why I wanted you to provide me some links. I'll now go through them and hope I can understand something ;) Your project is very ambitious, and that's why I expected more coverage, but let's see.

For now, you addressed my doubts well so I will continue to investigate. I like that you're taking a more "mainstream" approach than other, more nerdy projects in the OSHW sphere.

I assume you know that ICOs in cryptocurrencies have to be met with lots of skepticism, also in this forum. This is not your fault, but a general problem of ICOs - they attract scammers magically because it's so easy to set them up and then run away (For example, I was part of the NXT community - one of the first ICO platforms in 2014 - and lots of people lost their money there) ...


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: GaborKiss on November 23, 2017, 10:52:41 PM
Thank you for your answer!

I already had googled for English and Spanish sources, but had found almost nothing outside of your web pages (.net and .com) and the KickICO sites. That's why I wanted you to provide me some links. I'll now go through them and hope I can understand something ;) Your project is very ambitious, and that's why I expected more coverage, but let's see.

For now, you addressed my doubts well so I will continue to investigate. I like that you're taking a more "mainstream" approach than other, more nerdy projects in the OSHW sphere.

I assume you know that ICOs in cryptocurrencies have to be met with lots of skepticism, also in this forum. This is not your fault, but a general problem of ICOs - they attract scammers magically because it's so easy to set them up and then run away (For example, I was part of the NXT community - one of the first ICO platforms in 2014 - and lots of people lost their money there) ...


For now we also expected more media coverage :) But maybe we have to understand, that completely open sourcing technologies - that are the main territory of hundred years old corporations still operating in the market economy - is not an easy ride.

Talking with people about this - even if they are very happy to see Envienta as a game changer - it seems an impossible mission. The difference between them and us, that they are talking about it as a 200 years process at least, with linear thinking, we see this revolution is approaching with an exponential rate of speed. Just take a look on the trends, innovation is more likely come from startups and individuals these days. There is a shift also in organizational models.

I was interviewed 2 days ago here, and also talked about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb9db-8NeXA

We've been working hard in the past two years on our project, that seems a very slow process for the outsiders who usually expected few products and services at least by this time. But considering the fact, that our aim is to take huge part of the social, economical and technological paradigm shift, we soon realized that we have to create frameworks and platforms instead of products and services - these would be the outcomes and not the goals.

If we are talking about platforms and frameworks, we have to concern not only R&D, software and hardware development, but the network of people, the specific and scalable organizational model that enables more and more people to collaborate by free will. So the past two years is about building our team from this network of experts. The organizational model is decentralized, evolutionary teal, which is a purpose driven organization. We put great emphasis on flat hierarchies and self-management technics at the same time, with greater responsibilities on a personal level. We are giving a human centered environemnt for our members and partners, letting them experience their wholeness through their activities. That is equivalent to the open source, holistic approach we working with from the beginning. We think that it is the source of our success, the root of everything we could achieve."

Few words about the ICO's as we see. I think we have to listen Vitalik Buterin's attention, that 90% of ICO's will fail, because there is nothing behind a given project, only the coins, that created through the ICO. Without the coin 90% of the projects never had to be exist.

If you put real value behind the coin - physical infrastructure, means and resources, products and services and a thriving community itself - there is a good chance to keep the coin's value high enough to achieve a solid growth in the long term. Although we at ENVIENTA are not ICO experts, we are seeing the ICO as a tool and not the goal.

Buzzword alert! :D In addition we see blockchain technologies as the foundation of the value change in a healthy and secure IoT environment that will lead us to the resource based economy.


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: d5000 on November 25, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Thank you again Gabor for the informations! Looks definitively interesting and I'll continue to follow Envienta.

A little suggestion: Maybe you should use the word "Open Source" or even "Open Source Everything" in the announcement title. I saw the project only by accident when I checked new altcoin threads in the German subforum, but here are lots of FOSS fans and so it's maybe easier to reach them. They may not be too loud (most of them are a bit annoyed by the high level of noise in the forum and so they don't post very much) but they're a large part of the 2010-12 early adopters that own the large amounts of Bitcoins to make your project successful ...


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Affordable and Self-sustaining Living Space of the Future !
Post by: GaborKiss on November 26, 2017, 04:27:12 AM
Thank you again Gabor for the informations! Looks definitively interesting and I'll continue to follow Envienta.

A little suggestion: Maybe you should use the word "Open Source" or even "Open Source Everything" in the announcement title. I saw the project only by accident when I checked new altcoin threads in the German subforum, but here are lots of FOSS fans and so it's maybe easier to reach them. They may not be too loud (most of them are a bit annoyed by the high level of noise in the forum and so they don't post very much) but they're a large part of the 2010-12 early adopters that own the large amounts of Bitcoins to make your project successful ...

We're considering again to use "open source", thank you :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Open Source Everything
Post by: gioangelofelix on December 21, 2017, 10:57:49 AM
Wow the new society will rise because of this.


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Open Source Everything
Post by: gweigster on February 09, 2018, 03:28:49 PM
Are there any updates regarding the project?
Like maybe an ICO date?

It's gotten really quiet here :(


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Open Source Everything
Post by: MishaSER on March 23, 2018, 11:18:30 AM
Hello, I would like to know that with the project, at first glance, a very promising project and idia. We need such a future


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Open Source Everything
Post by: maryannsoriano1145 on April 03, 2018, 09:52:54 AM
i'm curious how this will develop. this coin is interesting and has an interesting future to see,hoping more update also ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] ENVIENTA ICO - Open Source Everything
Post by: vladivostokom on April 12, 2018, 05:33:31 AM
as i read the information of this project definitely caught my attention. I will keep an eye open for it, the future is looking bright. I love everything that is self-sustaining, and hope to see more here