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Title: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: FinShaggy on June 12, 2013, 03:52:44 PM
Is it possible to buy a 3D printer with Bitcoins yet?


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: Teka on June 12, 2013, 04:19:21 PM
Is it possible to buy a 3D printer with Bitcoins yet?

You could always ask somebody else to buy it for you.

1) You send BTC to someone
2) They exchange the BTC or keep it
3) They buy the printer and ship it to you.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: FinShaggy on June 12, 2013, 04:27:00 PM
Is it possible to buy a 3D printer with Bitcoins yet?

You could always ask somebody else to buy it for you.

1) You send BTC to someone
2) They exchange the BTC or keep it
3) They buy the printer and ship it to you.

So do you think Bitspend.net would work?


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 12, 2013, 04:28:59 PM
I just purchased a Cubify, waiting for delivery, looks good. you may want to take a look.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: Teka on June 12, 2013, 04:29:32 PM
Is it possible to buy a 3D printer with Bitcoins yet?

You could always ask somebody else to buy it for you.

1) You send BTC to someone
2) They exchange the BTC or keep it
3) They buy the printer and ship it to you.

So do you think Bitspend.net would work?

I've never used them before but after a quick look on their site, I don't see why buying a 3d printer using their service would be an issue.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 12, 2013, 04:32:31 PM
I have talked to their sales, very friendly, you may be able to persuade them to allow you to buy with Bitcoin :) .  I can't, don't have such a hugh pile of coins


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: FinShaggy on June 12, 2013, 04:37:06 PM
I have talked to their sales, very friendly, you may be able to persuade them to allow you to buy with Bitcoin :) .  I can't, don't have such a hugh pile of coins

Neither do I, but I am working to get one.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: kodo on June 12, 2013, 10:45:40 PM
lol tryna print a 3d gun eh?


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: Freedom24 on June 12, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
How much cost a 3D Printer?

And can somebody say some things who can be made with the printer?


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: Teka on June 12, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
How much cost a 3D Printer?

And can somebody say some things who can be made with the printer?

3d printers can cost anywhere from $600-$30,000. The best "non - industrial" 3d printer is probably the maker bot replicator 2 it costs $2,199 . You can print a lot of things using a 3d printer. Here is a site where people share their designs: http://www.thingiverse.com/


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 12, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
Or you can get this , once you get one, print one for me too :)

http://www.reprap.org/wiki/Category:RepStrap


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: FinShaggy on June 13, 2013, 12:12:00 AM
lol tryna print a 3d gun eh?

Lol, no. Trying to make some videos.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: raze on June 13, 2013, 05:27:02 AM
lol tryna print a 3d gun eh?

Lol, no. Trying to make some videos.

I don't think they can print videos yet, give it another few years.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: FinShaggy on June 13, 2013, 09:51:45 AM
lol tryna print a 3d gun eh?

Lol, no. Trying to make some videos.

I don't think they can print videos yet, give it another few years.

I think they figured that one out a few years ago actually.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: escrow.ms on June 13, 2013, 09:59:09 AM

If you need something made, check

http://ericthesculptor.blogspot.in/
http://www.3dp4btc.com/


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 13, 2013, 10:15:25 AM

If you need something made, check

http://ericthesculptor.blogspot.in/
http://www.3dp4btc.com/

If they can print with metals (maybe lower melting point type) that would be fantastic.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: Welsh on June 13, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
There's a penny auction site which has listed a Cube® 3D Printer. I have earned $15 amazon.com gift codes but have never had anything shipped to me. So I don't know if they would be legit or not.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: Eva Braun on June 13, 2013, 03:49:43 PM
I want to buy a 3d printer also.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: FinShaggy on June 13, 2013, 03:52:08 PM
I want to buy a 3d printer also.

I'm going to soon :)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 13, 2013, 03:57:23 PM
There's a penny auction site which has listed a Cube® 3D Printer. I have earned $15 amazon.com gift codes but have never had anything shipped to me. So I don't know if they would be legit or not.

I checked Amazon yesterday, Cube is out of stock, I purchased directly from Cubify.  But there are definitely cheaper ones, you can built one for less than $500 at reprap.org but it took me 3 months!


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: Exocyst on June 13, 2013, 10:37:27 PM
I am on a replicator 2 from Makerbot. The tech is bleeding edge, so get ready to spend some time being frustrated. Also, you need to know how to 3D model, or you'll be somewhat limited on what you can make. When I finally taught myself to 3D model and worked out all the kinks on my replicator2, I made some pretty amazing things, though. Currently working how to copper plate my models to make interactive 3D circuit puzzles. You should email Makerbot and ask if they will take Bitcoin, it doesn't hurt to ask does it?

I should say, though, a replicator two will run you in excess of 20BTC

Best,

Exo


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: dogie on June 14, 2013, 01:00:07 AM

If you need something made, check

http://ericthesculptor.blogspot.in/
http://www.3dp4btc.com/

If they can print with metals (maybe lower melting point type) that would be fantastic.
Directed energy deposition can. Types of binder jetting can but cheatingly using an infiltrator.

If anyone wants advice on specifics, machines, materials, limitations etc then pm me. Just finished 2 semesters learning from one of the most advanced additive labs there are.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 14, 2013, 01:56:25 AM

If you need something made, check

http://ericthesculptor.blogspot.in/
http://www.3dp4btc.com/

If they can print with metals (maybe lower melting point type) that would be fantastic.
Directed energy deposition can. Types of binder jetting can but cheatingly using an infiltrator.

If anyone wants advice on specifics, machines, materials, limitations etc then pm me. Just finished 2 semesters learning from one of the most advanced additive labs there are.

Are you into 3D printer design using copper?  If yes I guess we can form a virtual team :)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: dogie on June 14, 2013, 03:07:28 AM

If you need something made, check

http://ericthesculptor.blogspot.in/
http://www.3dp4btc.com/

If they can print with metals (maybe lower melting point type) that would be fantastic.
Directed energy deposition can. Types of binder jetting can but cheatingly using an infiltrator.

If anyone wants advice on specifics, machines, materials, limitations etc then pm me. Just finished 2 semesters learning from one of the most advanced additive labs there are.

Are you into 3D printer design using copper?  If yes I guess we can form a virtual team :)
I can't think of any method that could use copper. Copper's melting point is ~1100 and at those temps creates massive problems with oxidation which destroys its properties.
http://www.copper.org/publications/newsletters/innovations/how/howdo_tube.html


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 14, 2013, 06:15:52 AM
Using laser can melt however there are a lot of issues to be settled, there is a form of sand 3d printing especially when using such metals.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: coinator on June 14, 2013, 06:26:33 AM
I have personally built a reprap and mendel, not bad for 3d printing but I need to calibrate it once in a while to get it to print well. Fans in your room will affect the plastic build too, so make sure you keep the room air condition/wind/temperature in a "stable state".


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 14, 2013, 08:03:41 AM
Exone successfully printed in titanium I think that is 1,668°C .  But this will be specialized for industrial applications


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: dogie on June 14, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
Using laser can melt however there are a lot of issues to be settled, there is a form of sand 3d printing especially when using such metals.

I am aware you can MELT copper, however there is sensible process for additively manufacturing with copper. Some people have tried it with SLS but its just.... no.... It doesn't work out too well and you need a KW laser. SLS machines are also not very office friendly due to the dust/atm control and lasers.



Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 14, 2013, 01:02:19 PM
Using laser can melt however there are a lot of issues to be settled, there is a form of sand 3d printing especially when using such metals.

I am aware you can MELT copper, however there is sensible process for additively manufacturing with copper. Some people have tried it with SLS but its just.... no.... It doesn't work out too well and you need a KW laser. SLS machines are also not very office friendly due to the dust/atm control and lasers.



Not being office friendly is really an understatement :)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: dogie on June 14, 2013, 01:04:01 PM
Using laser can melt however there are a lot of issues to be settled, there is a form of sand 3d printing especially when using such metals.

I am aware you can MELT copper, however there is sensible process for additively manufacturing with copper. Some people have tried it with SLS but its just.... no.... It doesn't work out too well and you need a KW laser. SLS machines are also not very office friendly due to the dust/atm control and lasers.



Not being office friendly is really an understatement :)
There are a few SLS machines in our lab, and you *could* put one in an office in a side room. The only real problem is hacking in the ventilation system.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 14, 2013, 01:26:15 PM
Using laser can melt however there are a lot of issues to be settled, there is a form of sand 3d printing especially when using such metals.

I am aware you can MELT copper, however there is sensible process for additively manufacturing with copper. Some people have tried it with SLS but its just.... no.... It doesn't work out too well and you need a KW laser. SLS machines are also not very office friendly due to the dust/atm control and lasers.



Not being office friendly is really an understatement :)
There are a few SLS machines in our lab, and you *could* put one in an office in a side room. The only real problem is hacking in the ventilation system.

Wow, that's extremely expensive stuff, you seen ExOne demo on titanium?  Their 3D Printers are at least 5 figures pricing.  You can get the cheapest ones from China, sub $1000 but that's only ABS and PLA.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: CoinDiver on June 21, 2013, 08:32:08 PM
This is the best printer I could find for the money http://www.punchtec.com/

It's the Ord Bot Hadron. Very fast. I can print an entire AR lower at .2mm resolution in 8 hours, at 200mm/s. I can print with nylon as well, since the extruder is not lined.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: dogie on June 22, 2013, 04:32:32 AM
This is the best printer I could find for the money http://www.punchtec.com/

It's the Ord Bot Hadron. Very fast. I can print an entire AR lower at .2mm resolution in 8 hours, at 200mm/s. I can print with nylon as well, since the extruder is not lined.

Its also quite large and expensive for FDM/ME. Remember that increased speed = decreased accuracy, regardless of what the max resolution is, and running at a better resolution = increased time. 3DP is all about tradeoffs.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: tombob on June 22, 2013, 04:03:50 PM
so is there any way :( i want one too :)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: RandyFolds on June 22, 2013, 04:25:56 PM

If you need something made, check

http://ericthesculptor.blogspot.in/
http://www.3dp4btc.com/

If they can print with metals (maybe lower melting point type) that would be fantastic.

There are some relatively low priced (like, sub $15k) metal printers, but they are more for prototyping parts, and don't offer the machining tolerances and resolution your probably want in a production printer. It lays down layers of some sort of aluminum/plasticized binder and then laser cuts each layer to spec and starts on the next. Finished out by cooking off the plastic/binder and you're left with a 3D printed metal part, albeit a stratified, low-quality, fairly low-resolution metal part.

If anyone in the dirty south picks up a MakerBot 2, let me know. I will pay you to let me come over to your house and press the start button for you. Bam...made my own AR receivers, no firearm transfer in the mix. ;)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: CoinDiver on June 24, 2013, 02:45:32 PM
This is the best printer I could find for the money http://www.punchtec.com/

It's the Ord Bot Hadron. Very fast. I can print an entire AR lower at .2mm resolution in 8 hours, at 200mm/s. I can print with nylon as well, since the extruder is not lined.

Its also quite large and expensive for FDM/ME. Remember that increased speed = decreased accuracy, regardless of what the max resolution is, and running at a better resolution = increased time. 3DP is all about tradeoffs.

If everything else was equal, yes. If you want to compare screw driven, flimsy repraps to linear bearings and rigid frames... it's another story. It is not considerably larger or smaller than any other 200x200mm printable area model... and compared to anything else that's assembled and ready to print, it's not expensive. I wasn't interested in building a printer, I was interested in printing. I get great looking, dimensionally accurate parts. The only problems I've had have been with the QU-BD extruder.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: dogie on June 24, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
This is the best printer I could find for the money http://www.punchtec.com/

It's the Ord Bot Hadron. Very fast. I can print an entire AR lower at .2mm resolution in 8 hours, at 200mm/s. I can print with nylon as well, since the extruder is not lined.

Its also quite large and expensive for FDM/ME. Remember that increased speed = decreased accuracy, regardless of what the max resolution is, and running at a better resolution = increased time. 3DP is all about tradeoffs.

If everything else was equal, yes. If you want to compare screw driven, flimsy repraps to linear bearings and rigid frames... it's another story. It is not considerably larger or smaller than any other 200x200mm printable area model... and compared to anything else that's assembled and ready to print, it's not expensive. I wasn't interested in building a printer, I was interested in printing. I get great looking, dimensionally accurate parts. The only problems I've had have been with the QU-BD extruder.

Its not about the bearings and frames, honestly. When you really look at the engineering of it, there are so many forces going on within the polymer melt. As you increase the speeds, the cyclindrical melt acts and deposits very differently.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 25, 2013, 06:27:04 AM
My Cubify printer is extremely easy to use, and not too expensive.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: b!z on June 25, 2013, 06:54:19 AM
You could print physical bitcoins with a 3d printer :)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: worldinacoin on June 25, 2013, 10:15:51 AM
But it is still ABS or PLA plastic coins have not much appeal :( , I don't mind trying, anyone has a Bitcoin STL file where I can download? :)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: MWNinja on June 25, 2013, 02:14:32 PM
My Cubify printer is extremely easy to use, and not too expensive.

Cubify is cool, but their filament refills cost more than double the real price of filament - expensive and shipping is also outrageous. Shame on Cubify for trying to make proprietary "ink" cartridges!

Solution:
http://hackaday.com/2013/04/26/cube-3d-printer-hack-lets-you-use-bulk-filament/


Makergeeks accepts bitcoin payment for their printers and supplies, and are pretty awesome in general. 


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: arc45 on June 25, 2013, 02:34:43 PM
I have an ultimaker and I also send out designs to shapeways. 

Here's my shapeways shop:  http://www.shapeways.com/shops/zdd

Here's some images from my shop

http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_603448_459882_1339641469.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_562025_461087_1340392150.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_547016_444941_1338517236.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_495702_469313_1340372371.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_608408_465852_1343102386.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_614444_506861_1343357961.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_635907_533697_1345246824.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_591441_506872_1343358068.jpg


Shapeways has ceramic, resin, plastic, steel, gold plate, bronze plate, and silver.  Their printers are expensive (but very good compared to their competition) and accurate.   They ship about 2 weeks after the design is uploaded as long as the design has no problems.

Here are pics of some of my 3d prints with the ultimaker.

https://i.imgur.com/tAu0any.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DluAdoP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QclNxqq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/btfuAKq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8gtC3kg.jpg

The ultimaker needs maintenance to get consistent prints and can jam up if the PLA plastic expands to far above the heated extruder. 

If you have any other questions about the 3d printer let me know.

In general I would recommend using shapeways if you can afford it.  If you have time and energy and like to tinker then a home 3d printer may be better.  I think the newer Makerbot printers are going to be consistently reliable compared to their earlier models.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: CoinDiver on June 25, 2013, 05:39:50 PM
This is the best printer I could find for the money http://www.punchtec.com/

It's the Ord Bot Hadron. Very fast. I can print an entire AR lower at .2mm resolution in 8 hours, at 200mm/s. I can print with nylon as well, since the extruder is not lined.

Its also quite large and expensive for FDM/ME. Remember that increased speed = decreased accuracy, regardless of what the max resolution is, and running at a better resolution = increased time. 3DP is all about tradeoffs.

If everything else was equal, yes. If you want to compare screw driven, flimsy repraps to linear bearings and rigid frames... it's another story. It is not considerably larger or smaller than any other 200x200mm printable area model... and compared to anything else that's assembled and ready to print, it's not expensive. I wasn't interested in building a printer, I was interested in printing. I get great looking, dimensionally accurate parts. The only problems I've had have been with the QU-BD extruder.

Its not about the bearings and frames, honestly. When you really look at the engineering of it, there are so many forces going on within the polymer melt. As you increase the speeds, the cyclindrical melt acts and deposits very differently.

You obviously haven't seen the crap most people are printing on. Linear bearings are a huge step up in both speed and accuracy for home printers.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: CoinDiver on June 25, 2013, 05:47:49 PM
In general I would recommend using shapeways if you can afford it.  If you have time and energy and like to tinker then a home 3d printer may be better.  I think the newer Makerbot printers are going to be consistently reliable compared to their earlier models.

The biggest problem with home printers is the extruder. I'm using a modified QU-BD extruder. Using Bart Dring's modifications, it's one of the best. You have to make sure you have no play in the bolt hole on the extruder bearing arm, or you're going to have problems.

I don't use PLA. Mostly ABS and a little 618 Nylon. I've got a heated bed. With and abs/acetone slurry, ABS parts stick very well. Most of the time I can get away with just painters tape.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: dogie on June 25, 2013, 07:45:44 PM
This is the best printer I could find for the money http://www.punchtec.com/

It's the Ord Bot Hadron. Very fast. I can print an entire AR lower at .2mm resolution in 8 hours, at 200mm/s. I can print with nylon as well, since the extruder is not lined.

Its also quite large and expensive for FDM/ME. Remember that increased speed = decreased accuracy, regardless of what the max resolution is, and running at a better resolution = increased time. 3DP is all about tradeoffs.

If everything else was equal, yes. If you want to compare screw driven, flimsy repraps to linear bearings and rigid frames... it's another story. It is not considerably larger or smaller than any other 200x200mm printable area model... and compared to anything else that's assembled and ready to print, it's not expensive. I wasn't interested in building a printer, I was interested in printing. I get great looking, dimensionally accurate parts. The only problems I've had have been with the QU-BD extruder.

Its not about the bearings and frames, honestly. When you really look at the engineering of it, there are so many forces going on within the polymer melt. As you increase the speeds, the cyclindrical melt acts and deposits very differently.

You obviously haven't seen the crap most people are printing on. Linear bearings are a huge step up in both speed and accuracy for home printers.

I know what cheap units are like. We have 20 or so £200 units we use as demonstrations and teaching.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: maco on June 25, 2013, 09:46:03 PM
Looks like BitSpend is 'out of the market' for now.. It's unfortunate to hear their side about how Chase bank is handling the situation.

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitSpend/comments/1go95b/updatenews_why_we_have_been_slow_and_taking/


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: maco on June 25, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
and that would be awesome !

You could print physical bitcoins with a 3d printer :)


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: cryptoking80 on April 24, 2014, 10:50:31 AM
i am buyin 1 soon as i find a place that takes ltc or what not


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: titan86 on May 12, 2014, 09:42:37 AM
Is it possible to buy a 3D printer with Bitcoins yet?

You could always ask somebody else to buy it for you.

1) You send BTC to someone
2) They exchange the BTC or keep it
3) They buy the printer and ship it to you.

You could always ask somebody else to buy. And you will always pay more than you would pay buying by yourself


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: AT101ET on May 12, 2014, 06:57:15 PM
Did you get the printer?
I'm sure there are some people who'd be willing to do a custom order for a slight premium.
Depending on what you need it for and the price your willing to pay, the replicator 2 is very good.
As a side point, the 3doodler is quite cool. It's more of a toy though rather than anything useful.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: newIndia on May 12, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
How much does a 3D printer costs including the cost of shipment to India ?


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: CoinDiver on May 12, 2014, 09:52:51 PM
How much does a 3D printer costs including the cost of shipment to India ?

Hobbyist 3D printers range from $300 to $3000.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: AT101ET on May 13, 2014, 06:33:25 AM
How much does a 3D printer costs including the cost of shipment to India ?

Hobbyist 3D printers range from $300 to $3000.

Can you provide a link to a $300 one?
I saw one on Kickstarter for that price that was meant to be able to contend with the top of the range ones, but it's only being deliver in 2015.
 


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: bodymail on May 13, 2014, 09:43:38 AM
Previously heard of a printing company support the currency.


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: zetaray on May 13, 2014, 10:37:39 AM
I would love to have a 3D printer. Would buy one if I needed one. The problem is I do not have any real use for it. I will just be playing around and wasting money  ;D


Title: Re: 3D Printer for Bitcoin
Post by: boopy265420 on May 13, 2014, 07:30:08 PM
waiting for 3D printer to be cheaper then i will buy one for me too. At start everything is very expensive but it is just a matter of weeks when 3D printer will be in reach of everyone.