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Title: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on October 28, 2017, 08:44:38 PM I know, I know hot air goes up, but i tested it horizontally as well and then i had maybe 2-3*C less temps, the same noise (tested with 4x1060 and 2x1070)
case have room for one more gpu (total 7 risers inside, and maybe i can add 3 long gpus on top or 4 short ones) via pci-e multiplier https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4504sdkgb.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4505omj6r.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4506qykms.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4507fqkkl.jpg 24x28x61cm (40l) Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: kjs on October 28, 2017, 09:05:19 PM Nice construction! :)
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: ROFLED on October 28, 2017, 09:18:24 PM Please let us know what temp-s you get at all
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: farmtester1 on October 29, 2017, 12:38:11 AM What MB is this? looks like a very old socket
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: MikeJones! on October 29, 2017, 12:42:48 AM Pretty Slick! nicely done
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on October 29, 2017, 12:55:32 AM temperatures - 62-64*C at 45-48% fans speed
motherboard on pictures is gigabyte ma-790fx-dq6 am2+ (5x pci-e with powered molex) + i added pci-e multiplier 1x pci-e x1 @ 4x pci-e x1 (8 gpu in total) (mobo + cpu + ram - 40eur, multiplier 20-22eur) total 60-62eur - i think cheapest 8x pci-e BTC mobo cost about 90-100eur (without cpu/ram) cheap and I dont have to mess with all that bios settings like pci-e gen,4g encoding or all that crap, 8 gpus works plug and play Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: wacko on October 29, 2017, 01:22:58 AM Nice, would love to see some more pics with the fully loaded rig. I was considering doing something like this myself, mainly because of those leaky Sapphire RX480 cards.. there were reports out there of those cards dying, supposedly because that oily liquid mixed with dust shorts something. Not a problem in regular desktop PCs, but turned out to be a problem for mining rigs with GPUs placed vertically. So a rig like yours, with cards placed horizontally, is probably the best way to go for "leaking" cards. But it's a lot harder to build a rig like this, so I eventually gave up. :D
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: Johny101010 on October 29, 2017, 02:07:28 AM Great job looks great.
You might want to mount the motherboard on the other side facing your cards. Those riser cables die to quicky if bended. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: shibob on October 29, 2017, 05:23:55 AM Look cool. Even your monitor is also vertical haha.
I'm thinking to change some of my rigs to vertical build like yours, it may help on ventilation and saving area, actually my room is pretty small with 3.8m x 3.2m. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: ivakar on October 29, 2017, 05:57:22 AM well it is always nice to see greatly done stuff as your rig, for example.
it is well think of and planned well before construction and save a lot of space I must admit post a picture with full gpus load)) then we all will give thumps up! Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: umine on October 29, 2017, 08:13:52 AM Solid alluminium case - it's right approach! Just add external fans at the back side of the frame (befor GPUs) and "problem - hot air goes up" will dissapear. It's due to fans airflow is faster than the convection of air bottom-up
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: DevonMiner on October 29, 2017, 09:30:42 AM This sort of idea caught my eye a while back, it's not too dissimilar to the way Genesis Mining build their rigs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA) Looks like they are using Asrock Pro BTC boards with their own custom software/os on USB stick. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: Sev18 on October 29, 2017, 10:44:49 AM It's first time to see vertical case. Looks good.
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on October 29, 2017, 09:16:34 PM Great job looks great. You might want to mount the motherboard on the other side facing your cards. Those riser cables die to quicky if bended. risers/usb cables are not bend at all 60cm risers are long enough, but always you can use angle usb conectors like this: https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1CM6KPFXXXXauXVXXq6xXFXXXI/PCI-E-1x-to-16x-Mining-Machine-Enhanced-Extender-Riser-Card-Adapter-with-60cm-2-feet.jpg more pics soon, maybe tuesday PS whole case is made by hand (hand drill/ hand threaded) base is 24x28 bcoz i have 24x56cm sheet of aluminium plate at home so i decided to not order new one i decided to make it by hand bcoz for CNC I will wait 1-2 weeks Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: deadsix on October 29, 2017, 09:31:28 PM This sort of idea caught my eye a while back, it's not too dissimilar to the way Genesis Mining build their rigs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA) Looks like they are using Asrock Pro BTC boards with their own custom software/os on USB stick. They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160. Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: juanichiloco on October 29, 2017, 10:36:41 PM Looks good, nice work, could work better for some people as heaters during the winter :D
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: bigjee on October 29, 2017, 10:45:52 PM Great idea :) Its nothing new. Ive seen these before and pretty sure there's hundreds if not thousands in use. See below: ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA&t=35s[url] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA&t=35s[url)[/url] Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on October 29, 2017, 10:58:29 PM believe me, I try to found some pics in google vertical case but no luck
also important thing for me are risers mounted with spacers firmly to frame - now mounitng/changing gpu is very very simple and fast Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: Oakey22 on October 29, 2017, 11:31:31 PM Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: mintzt on October 29, 2017, 11:50:25 PM This design can minimize dust stick on processor heat sink. :)
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: hardworker27 on October 30, 2017, 12:12:22 AM This sort of idea caught my eye a while back, it's not too dissimilar to the way Genesis Mining build their rigs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA) Looks like they are using Asrock Pro BTC boards with their own custom software/os on USB stick. Wow, it's impressive, much smaller than my own rig on a rack. Do you guys know the dimensions or where we can buy such a rig like genesis' one? Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: bigjee on October 30, 2017, 03:06:59 AM believe me, I try to found some pics in google vertical case but no luck also important thing for me are risers mounted with spacers firmly to frame - now mounitng/changing gpu is very very simple and fast Im not saying you copied. Im saying the concept of vertical case is nothing new. Thats all. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: bigjee on October 30, 2017, 03:09:28 AM Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom. If you have vertical fans along the side of the case the heat wont have time to rise. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: CryptBoy:) on October 30, 2017, 07:22:44 AM Placing a fan on top instead a cover would nice to suck out the hot air
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: leonix007 on October 30, 2017, 08:31:15 AM Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom. If you have vertical fans along the side of the case the heat wont have time to rise. Then you have to put fans in everycard along side in order to avoid heats contact from upper card right? Seems not practical to me. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on October 30, 2017, 09:31:39 AM Im not saying you copied. it was not excuse, I wanted to copy working project, but i can't find anything, thats why i have to do it my own, reasons which push me to do it:Im saying the concept of vertical case is nothing new. Thats all. - less space (footprint) - less size overall(volume) - mounted risers on spacers - less cost for me - if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom. your concer is right but this is matter? difference will be 5*C maybe, hashrate will be the same Placing a fan on top instead a cover would nice to suck out the hot air too much drilling - maybe gain 1-2*C, I made this case for my self and check if this will be work ok, now I can copy dimensions and all holes patern and made it via CNC laser/mill without mistakes ;) Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: Mike011 on October 30, 2017, 04:59:53 PM Frame looks really nice! Mining Vertcoin on the vertical rig would be awesome ;)
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: PontusLSE on October 30, 2017, 05:06:03 PM Really nice! I am doing something similar (https://ibb.co/j3RVO6 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2335082.0)
Do you have a picture of it filled with GPUs? Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on October 30, 2017, 07:02:24 PM i am waiting for more cards for now
but just for the pic i plug some old radeons from the bottom 1050ti 7970 not connected 1070fe r9 290x not connected 1060 6gb 1060 gb 7970 not connected https://abload.de/img/kop1josfb.jpg https://abload.de/img/kop2urs2e.jpg (why i not use top slot for one 1060? i think sth is wrong with riser, I will replace it later) Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: PontusLSE on October 30, 2017, 07:08:50 PM Thank you for the images.
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: percy_tc on October 30, 2017, 07:15:01 PM Its clever, regarding space wise.
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on October 31, 2017, 05:08:33 PM I can plug one more
https://abload.de/img/tn_img_45412csq9.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4542aospf.jpg Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: hardworker27 on October 31, 2017, 05:25:54 PM That is awesome! I'm waiting for your dimensions and material :D Thanks
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: nebulouslife on November 01, 2017, 06:24:31 PM i like your style. My first frame is more of a giant test bed it could be placed horizontal as well but its been working better upright. at the moment it only has 7 cards in it but it could easily do 16, maybe even 20.
https://i.imgur.com/WixHBCi.jpg Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: DevonMiner on November 01, 2017, 07:33:11 PM They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160. Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability. Ah, my bad ... not an Asrock board then. $160 isn't a bad price, wonder what they get the GPUs for in a bulk purchase - dealing direct with the manufacturer ... prices we can only dream of ::) Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: zeitspringer on November 01, 2017, 10:02:18 PM Nice pictures ;)
I think, a little bit better cooling is moving up and far away from the wall Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: deadsix on November 01, 2017, 10:06:05 PM They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160. Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability. Ah, my bad ... not an Asrock board then. $160 isn't a bad price, wonder what they get the GPUs for in a bulk purchase - dealing direct with the manufacturer ... prices we can only dream of ::) I heard from a contact that since that batch of RX 570's they flew in from China directly, a 6 X 570 system costs them under $1300 all inclusive, while it costs me over $2100 :( Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on November 18, 2017, 12:35:47 AM New project in progress
28x30cm base+ 70cm height (little bigger but i can fit 2x psu + 8 gpu + atx + long and wide gpus (zotac amp) + 5x120mm on front panel Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: wacko on November 18, 2017, 12:54:02 AM reasons which push me to do it: - less space (footprint) - less size overall(volume) - mounted risers on spacers - less cost for me - if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days I kind of understand the first reason, but the other 4 don't make much sense to me. The volume can't be smaller — you're still putting the same amount of computer hardware inside a frame, so why does it matter whether it's vertical or horizontal? And why "mounted risers on spacers", what's the point? When you're building a horizontal rig, the risers just sit on a support beam, by themselves — they don't need any mounting that way. I also don't understand how it is less cost and why you compare it with a "normal frame in shop" (instead of a self-built horizontal frame). Vertical rig like this requires a lot more work cause you have to fight the gravity: you have to attach the motherboard, the risers.. while with horizontal rigs the board and risers can just sit on support beams without any screws and spacers. I can agree with the first reason (although it's only relevant if you have up to 2-3 rigs, cause even with 3 rigs stacked horizontals require similar (if not smaller) footprint). All the other reasons sound strange to me. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on November 18, 2017, 01:28:58 AM reasons which push me to do it: - less space (footprint) - less size overall(volume) - mounted risers on spacers - less cost for me - if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days I kind of understand the first reason, but the other 4 don't make much sense to me. The volume can't be smaller — you're still putting the same amount of computer hardware inside a frame, so why does it matter whether it's vertical or horizontal? And why "mounted risers on spacers", what's the point? When you're building a horizontal rig, the risers just sit on a support beam, by themselves — they don't need any mounting that way. I also don't understand how it is less cost and why you compare it with a "normal frame in shop" (instead of a self-built horizontal frame). Vertical rig like this requires a lot more work cause you have to fight the gravity: you have to attach the motherboard, the risers.. while with horizontal rigs the board and risers can just sit on support beams without any screws and spacers. I can agree with the first reason (although it's only relevant if you have up to 2-3 rigs, cause even with 3 rigs stacked horizontals require similar (if not smaller) footprint). All the other reasons sound strange to me. Of course volume can be smaller - just multiply width x lenght x height I have one frame for 6 + 2 gpu and it is 54x45x30cm so 5.4 x 4.5 x 3.0 = 73L mine is 7 +1 = 24x28x70 so 2.4 x 2.8 x 7.0 = 47L So 3 of vertical will take the same amount of space as 2 normal ones, maybe not revelant for most ppl but for me it is Risers mounted on spacers is very helfpul if you changing cards often and also can be mounted a lot quicker, i change cards bcoz I am buying them used from gumtree/ebay and also there are different models WHY? COST after i leave shop, electronic parts lost value immiadately - doesnt matter if used 1-2 days of 3 months - 40$ instant loss for one card 8 x 1070 - lost in value 300-320$ this 330$ I will mine in 33-35days and i dont even add other parts to the equation, like psu/cpu/ram etc so if you do the math and for example build NEW mining rig from shop, and want to sell it after 2 months you will realized your profit will be close to zero Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: wacko on November 18, 2017, 02:56:01 AM Of course volume can be smaller - just multiply width x lenght x height Why? You selected arbitrary dimensions for whatever reasons you've had, and then somehow made a conclusion that a vertical rig takes up less volume than a horizontal one — by comparing two frames that you already have? All this proves is that your vertical frame takes up less space than your horizontal frame. But people asked you why bother with vertical frames in general, and as one of the reasons you said that they take up less volume. But they don't, it's only your two particular frames that demonstrate this kind of difference. There's nothing about vertical frames in general that somehow makes them take up less volume than horizontal frames, at least I can't think of anything. Maybe I'm missing something here.. Let's say we've got an ATX board with 8 GPUs and 2 PSUs. How does assembling all this hardware vertically save any volume compared to a classic horizontal frame?Risers mounted on spacers is very helfpul if you changing cards often and also can be mounted a lot quicker, i change cards bcoz I am buying them used from gumtree/ebay and also there are different models You lost me there. How is buying parts used in any way related to changing cards often? :) It doesn't matter where you buy your GPUs — new from a store or used from ebay — either way you buy them for a mining rig. You install the cards (new or used) and then you mine with them. Why buying used cards make you rape your risers frequently by installing/removing the cards?WHY? COST after i leave shop, electronic parts lost value immiadately - doesnt matter if used 1-2 days of 3 months - 40$ instant loss for one card 8 x 1070 - lost in value 300-320$ this 330$ I will mine in 33-35days and i dont even add other parts to the equation, like psu/cpu/ram etc so if you do the math and for example build NEW mining rig from shop, and want to sell it after 2 months you will realized your profit will be close to zero Why would I buy a mining rig and then sell it after 2 months? Do people actually do this kind of stuff? What kind of a business model is that? Why not just keep the hardware and keep profiting from mining until the new generation of GPUs show up?Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: mittooss on November 18, 2017, 03:50:40 AM It's a good idea
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: jeswin on November 18, 2017, 03:53:18 AM It seems to be a good idea can get the cooling as we want.
Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on December 04, 2017, 09:04:01 PM alu + 3mm dibond CNC cut
https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4779jlp04.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4774knqp5.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_47750uqxv.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4776k1qjp.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_477752o8e.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_4780wgpew.jpg I am short on risers (should be here in next few days) Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: exciter.0 on December 15, 2017, 09:22:01 PM Nice refined design. Will you consider selling these anytime soon?
If so, I'm interested. Thanks. Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on January 20, 2018, 04:53:56 AM LQ pics
in next two weeks I will get new full ALU batch ;) https://abload.de/img/tn_img_3294eksd5.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_3293hnskb.jpg https://abload.de/img/tn_img_3295l2sk3.jpg Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: hardworker27 on January 20, 2018, 05:15:22 AM It looks amazing! Where did you get the materials with those dimensions?
Thanks! Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on January 26, 2018, 07:07:11 PM w
It looks amazing! Where did you get the materials with those dimensions? Thanks! what do you mean? case is made from 6x solid square profile 10x10mm cut and drilled on lathe for the same lenght + cnc milled 3mm dibond panels but new batch will have aluminium 2mm panels lasercut Title: Re: my vertical mining case/frame Post by: duniek on February 06, 2018, 11:17:43 AM https://abload.de/thumb/10lsjv.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=10lsjv.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/21ws6t.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=21ws6t.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/30zsmg.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=30zsmg.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/4cas1i.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=4cas1i.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/5x9sqa.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=5x9sqa.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/6sls68.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=6sls68.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/7g7s6g.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=7g7s6g.jpg)
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