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Title: enjoy and sochi tx spring 2017/30000 confi/how to get rid
Post by: linaross on November 05, 2017, 07:03:42 AM
hi
i got enjoy and sochi tx ( 1 satoshi each recived spring 2017) i used the adresse only 2 times way back in 2014 . now i have those 2 satoshi laying on the adresse . ( with about 30000 confirmations)
i want to move all my coins to a new adress. how can i get rid of those satoshis befor i move to new adresses?

i read about dust tx and spam but i dont want to carry them on with me .
and why do this tiny tx get confirmations? isnt each block filled and you cant get tx with no fee through ?

is there a instruction other then the script by peter todd ?



Title: Re: enjoy and sochi tx spring 2017/30000 confi/how to get rid
Post by: HCP on November 05, 2017, 08:41:41 AM
Are you using Bitcoin Core? If so, goto "Settings -> options -> Wallet" and tick the "Enable Coin Control Features" box. Then on the "Send" window, click the "inputs" button and then select ALL the inputs except the two that you don't want. You will then be able to send all your coins (except the two inputs you no longer want) to a new address. Perhaps you should even go so far as to create a whole new wallet, so you don't have to worry about those coins ever causing you issues again?

If you're not using Bitcoin Core, does your wallet have "Coin Control" features? I know Electrum does... not sure about other wallets. Electrum even allows you to "freeze" addresses, so you can freeze the address the 1 satoshi inputs are on and that will guarantee that they never get used when sending transactions.


Title: Re: enjoy and sochi tx spring 2017/30000 confi/how to get rid
Post by: buwaytress on November 05, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
Every valid transaction in the network has a more or less equal right (no more priority if I am not mistaken) to get included into a block as any other transaction, dust or otherwise. The only thing that improves your chances of getting it confirmed quicker is the miner's fee included in the transaction, as most miners will choose to include txs with the highest fee per byte.

You can use the suggestion from HCP to avoid using those 1 satoshi inputs. Here are other considerations.

1. You mentioned that you have 1 satoshi each on the two addresses... if these addresses have no other inputs, then you just exclude those addresses when sending out the rest of your coins.
2. If you are consolidating your coins, like it seems you are, you may not actually end up needing to pay much more if you include the 2 1-satoshi inputs. I'm almost certain they're both about 450 bytes together... may not add much to your total, depending on the size of inputs you plan on consolidating.

If you tell us the wallet you're using, you'll get better help!


Title: Re: enjoy and sochi tx spring 2017/30000 confi/how to get rid
Post by: linaross on November 06, 2017, 06:03:08 AM
Are you using Bitcoin Core? If so, goto "Settings -> options -> Wallet" and tick the "Enable Coin Control Features" box. Then on the "Send" window, click the "inputs" button and then select ALL the inputs except the two that you don't want. You will then be able to send all your coins (except the two inputs you no longer want) to a new address. Perhaps you should even go so far as to create a whole new wallet, so you don't have to worry about those coins ever causing you issues again?

If you're not using Bitcoin Core, does your wallet have "Coin Control" features? I know Electrum does... not sure about other wallets. Electrum even allows you to "freeze" addresses, so you can freeze the address the 1 satoshi inputs are on and that will guarantee that they never get used when sending transactions.
yes i use bitcoin core.
and yes i will create a new wallet. on a extra pc.
thank you
just out of curiosity if i transfer the adress with privkey to electum i could freeze them ?
 


Title: Re: enjoy and sochi tx spring 2017/30000 confi/how to get rid
Post by: linaross on November 06, 2017, 06:49:53 AM
Every valid transaction in the network has a more or less equal right (no more priority if I am not mistaken) to get included into a block as any other transaction, dust or otherwise. The only thing that improves your chances of getting it confirmed quicker is the miner's fee included in the transaction, as most miners will choose to include txs with the highest fee per byte.

You can use the suggestion from HCP to avoid using those 1 satoshi inputs. Here are other considerations.

1. You mentioned that you have 1 satoshi each on the two addresses... if these addresses have no other inputs, then you just exclude those addresses when sending out the rest of your coins.
2. If you are consolidating your coins, like it seems you are, you may not actually end up needing to pay much more if you include the 2 1-satoshi inputs. I'm almost certain they're both about 450 bytes together... may not add much to your total, depending on the size of inputs you plan on consolidating.

If you tell us the wallet you're using, you'll get better help!
thank you
i use bitcoin core.
i read with this spam or dust tx the sender is able to follow the adress i used and i dont want that.
i do not use adresses twice. if i place my coins now on different priv keys to split the risk i would now have those spam satoshis in one of my privkeys?
and just for my safty feeling i dont want tx in my wallet that i dont know who they come from.

good or evel

i also read those enjoy and sochi tx usualy dont get confirmations. so we dont need to worry. and dont need to do anything they will disapear.but now i see those tx got confirmations.

and i thought we do have a blocksize problem where lots of tx with fees wait for days to get through.
thats why i was so surprised that this micro tx of one satoshi already got 30000 confirmations in a couple of month.


Title: Re: enjoy and sochi tx spring 2017/30000 confi/how to get rid
Post by: LoyceV on November 06, 2017, 10:36:38 AM
thats why i was so surprised that this micro tx of one satoshi already got 30000 confirmations in a couple of month.
Once a transaction is confirmed, every new block found means it gets one more confirmation. On average, there's one block every 10 minutes, that means about 1000 confirmations per week. It has nothing to do with the size or fee you used when it got confirmed.