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Title: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CoinHoarder on June 18, 2013, 12:29:53 AM
Who's gonna do it?

There are so so so many options to get Avalon chips assembled... almost too many.

Hopefully at least one of you are planning on doing the same for BFL chips???

Before I plop down $7k on 100 chips, I'd like to know I will have somewhere to get them assembled.  ;D


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: jelin1984 on June 18, 2013, 12:31:09 AM
Yes same question here


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: EvilLizardApparel on June 18, 2013, 12:36:39 AM
Same. Need 300-400 chips worth of assembly..been asking around. Now that schematics are published, some offers should be popping up.


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: ct1aic on June 18, 2013, 12:41:51 AM
Who's gonna do it?

There are so so so many options to get Avalon chips assembled... almost too many.

Hopefully at least one of you are planning on doing the same for BFL chips???

Before I plop down $7k on 100 chips, I'd like to know I will have somewhere to get them assembled.  ;D

See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200067.msg2476940#msg2476940

the spanish guy, nekonos, is assembling the Avalon chips at a reasonable price.

Quote
The price for the Full Miner assembly service will include:*:
4 Layers’ PCB
All electronic components
Full assembly
Heat Sink
12 to 24 hours testing to meet the so deserved BkkCoins’s royalties.
Fan and Case will be available at an extra cost


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on June 18, 2013, 12:43:42 AM
Who's gonna do it?

There are so so so many options to get Avalon chips assembled... almost too many.

Hopefully at least one of you are planning on doing the same for BFL chips???

Before I plop down $7k on 100 chips, I'd like to know I will have somewhere to get them assembled.  ;D
sent the files to a local place in Chicago here.  waiting for quotes "Quoting quantity for all 3 projects will be: 10, 100, 500, 1k and 5k."  ;D
the other projects are Klondike 1 and 16


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: southerngentuk on June 18, 2013, 12:50:29 AM
Last i looked (i didn`t look hard so don`t flame me) the details released are for the short board not the long board.

Have they ever got more than two chips to work on that board ?



Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CoinHoarder on June 18, 2013, 01:51:21 AM
Who's gonna do it?

There are so so so many options to get Avalon chips assembled... almost too many.

Hopefully at least one of you are planning on doing the same for BFL chips???

Before I plop down $7k on 100 chips, I'd like to know I will have somewhere to get them assembled.  ;D
sent the files to a local place in Chicago here.  waiting for quotes "Quoting quantity for all 3 projects will be: 10, 100, 500, 1k and 5k."  ;D
the other projects are Klondike 1 and 16

It seems the files they released are not enough to simply hand it over to a manufacturing company.

"@BFL_Nasser - could you post a zipped project? It would be great to have the Schematic elements as well as the PCB. A packaged project would be ideal.

These files are not enough to build a decent board without a lot of fiddling, especially if one wanted to go to a full production run. It would take about 2 weeks to get a serious Altium project out of this with all of the supply chain and schematic elements in place.

If anyone is seriously working on a BFL ASIC based project, I am an electronic engineer with a decade of experience and an up to date seat and subscription to Altium Designer. I made a quick dump of the final artwork for the PCB, but this needs a lot more 'paperwork' and documentation before it can be manufactured. @BillJ BitforceSC-finalprints-UNFORMATTED-17062013.pdf"

- skrivitor

Posted here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3295-bitforce-sc-pcb-schematics-2.html#post41529


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on June 18, 2013, 03:43:01 AM
Who's gonna do it?

There are so so so many options to get Avalon chips assembled... almost too many.

Hopefully at least one of you are planning on doing the same for BFL chips???

Before I plop down $7k on 100 chips, I'd like to know I will have somewhere to get them assembled.  ;D
sent the files to a local place in Chicago here.  waiting for quotes "Quoting quantity for all 3 projects will be: 10, 100, 500, 1k and 5k."  ;D
the other projects are Klondike 1 and 16

It seems the files they released are not enough to simply hand it over to a manufacturing company.

"@BFL_Nasser - could you post a zipped project? It would be great to have the Schematic elements as well as the PCB. A packaged project would be ideal.

These files are not enough to build a decent board without a lot of fiddling, especially if one wanted to go to a full production run. It would take about 2 weeks to get a serious Altium project out of this with all of the supply chain and schematic elements in place.

If anyone is seriously working on a BFL ASIC based project, I am an electronic engineer with a decade of experience and an up to date seat and subscription to Altium Designer. I made a quick dump of the final artwork for the PCB, but this needs a lot more 'paperwork' and documentation before it can be manufactured. @BillJ BitforceSC-finalprints-UNFORMATTED-17062013.pdf"

- skrivitor

Posted here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3295-bitforce-sc-pcb-schematics-2.html#post41529
what's his handle on this forum? I'll contact him too, but the place I sent the files to, didn't complain and said they will provide quotes


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CoinHoarder on June 18, 2013, 03:46:07 AM
what's his handle on this forum? I'll contact him too, but the place I sent the files to, didn't complain and said they will provide quotes

This seems to be him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54036


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on June 18, 2013, 04:33:19 AM
what's his handle on this forum? I'll contact him too, but the place I sent the files to, didn't complain and said they will provide quotes

This seems to be him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54036
thanks! sent him a PM


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: MrTeal on June 18, 2013, 05:57:35 AM
Myself and another person from the BFL forums are working on a separate board from the one released by BFL, although it is nice to see it out there. I agree with skrivitor, there's a lot that is missing from that dump.
It *may* be possible to rebuild a full BoM from the PDF schematic, but if I were going to be spending a good sum on getting boards built I wouldn't be using the old Single board that's been relegated to the Jalapeno unless I was under a significant time crunch.


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on June 18, 2013, 06:21:34 AM
Myself and another person from the BFL forums are working on a separate board from the one released by BFL, although it is nice to see it out there. I agree with skrivitor, there's a lot that is missing from that dump.
It *may* be possible to rebuild a full BoM from the PDF schematic, but if I were going to be spending a good sum on getting boards built I wouldn't be using the old Single board that's been relegated to the Jalapeno unless I was under a significant time crunch.
please stay on contact.  I'm looking for boards  ;D


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: marto74 on June 18, 2013, 07:30:56 AM
Who's gonna do it?

There are so so so many options to get Avalon chips assembled... almost too many.

Hopefully at least one of you are planning on doing the same for BFL chips???

Before I plop down $7k on 100 chips, I'd like to know I will have somewhere to get them assembled.  ;D
We are going to.
I did already ordered 100 chip and other 100 coming from Bulgarian group buy.
@ the moment We are finishing our Avalon based project (week to 10 days) .
As soon we are able to put this in production our PCB designer will start work on BFL based custom board
But it's early to anounce anything @ the moment
Regards


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: southerngentuk on June 18, 2013, 07:48:08 AM
Who's gonna do it?

There are so so so many options to get Avalon chips assembled... almost too many.

Hopefully at least one of you are planning on doing the same for BFL chips???

Before I plop down $7k on 100 chips, I'd like to know I will have somewhere to get them assembled.  ;D
We are going to.
I did already ordered 100 chip and other 100 coming from Bulgarian group buy.
@ the moment We are finishing our Avalon based project (week to 10 days) .
As soon we are able to put this in production our PCB designer will start work on BFL based custom board
But it's early to anounce anything @ the moment
Regards
Will it be open source/sell to third parties or kept for your own boards..


Title: Re: BFL ASIC Chip PCB Design/Manufacturing & Assembly
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on June 18, 2013, 08:10:56 AM
I started a group buy for 3300 BFL chips here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236103.0
.6 per chip