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Title: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: fratrad on November 08, 2017, 12:27:15 PM
ICO cancelled


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Bluecheese on November 08, 2017, 12:45:06 PM
Good luck on your launch!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: adriankmf on November 08, 2017, 12:46:06 PM
why same concept as hydrominer?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Coin_trader on November 08, 2017, 12:59:28 PM
Could you tell us how this project works?
How does your project helps the green mining industrry? How stable is this project to be able to establish a hydro-power company if you have any?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: leostar on November 08, 2017, 01:47:58 PM

hydrominer?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: fratrad on November 08, 2017, 06:19:30 PM
Hello ! Please read for Swisshydro Miner our Whitepaper on the Webpage

Swiss Alps in the Middle of Europe

Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !
We have cheap green Energy due our high Alps and as well the Price pressure from Europe.

Our Partners from Swiss Hydro Power and our new Solution for integrates heat recovery is in development .

We are in pleasure with Communities with high Skills , for other Companies in Swiss and Europe , which promote and encourage as well eco friendly mining.
    
To mine ETH only ( they will shift ?) , is no only sense for us.  In Future Alt ETH for diversification

We are specialised on Asic, as well our Intergrated System Immersion Cooling with our Partner with Patent let save us a lot of Energy.

So in this case, we are a `lot of` Green Mining, due the saving our electricity for Cooling to output directly in heat recovery . More than 90% Energy comes back.

Our Team is working hard for a great Start

Thanks Swiss Hydro Team
www.Swisshydro.io


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: luguang on November 08, 2017, 06:51:24 PM
I browsed the official website, didn't find the white paper, hope you update it. Good luck


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: fratrad on November 08, 2017, 07:05:13 PM
http://swisshydro.io/documents/08_11_SwissHydro-White-Paper-ENG_1.pdf


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 18, 2017, 07:28:47 PM
http://swisshydro.io/documents/08_11_SwissHydro-White-Paper-ENG_1.pdf

Copy gleaned from HydroMiner's white paper. You heard it from here first.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: mrelich on November 18, 2017, 11:22:03 PM
Hi, nice concept. Can participants switch a mined coin during the contract period ? Or, is it possible just to invest and leave the coin selection to experts from your company?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: MustDream on November 18, 2017, 11:28:22 PM
Hello, interesting project. How long have your team been involved in blockchain?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: StashCoin on November 18, 2017, 11:29:30 PM
Hope you have great success


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: daniel1113 on November 19, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
Everything here is copying Hydrominer. This put a lot of uncertainty of Hydrominer also....
The future will show what is the true ...


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: cryptomoneyresearcher on November 19, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Coin_trader on November 19, 2017, 02:44:32 PM
What we can expect from a project which is just a copy paste from the other project's concept? Try to create something new, something you can say that was original and from the teams brainstorming and creativity.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 19, 2017, 04:41:03 PM
What we can expect from a project which is just a copy paste from the other project's concept? Try to create something new, something you can say that was original and from the teams brainstorming and creativity.

You mean like PyramidMiners at pyramidminers.ag? They claim to power their miners with free electricity created from pyramids. All they need is startup funding so to employ containers around pyramids across the globe.

Quote
PyramidMiners was founded by twin sisters, Rasha and Shiamaa Kamal, discovering pyramid power in 2014 while they were visiting the Pyramid of Khufu with a newly purchased GPU mining card in Rasha's purse. To their amazement, the card not only turned on but started mining Ethereum. Thinking that it was just an anomaly, the next day they returned with a dozen cards, and lo and behold all twelve cards turned on and started mining ETH. Every day since, they started bringing more and more cards to all the pyramids in Egypt and never once experienced a single failure. They then had a friend test pyramid power in the Yucatan, whereupon he reported back that it worked.

Which brings us to today. PyramidMiners is going to raise U$10M+ so to build and deploy containers of GPU-based miners next to pyramids around the world. We will be offering you our new token - PMC - to be used to purchase PP (Pyramid Power) not hashes on our platform.

Here is proof that Rasha and Shiamaa are real and really can read ...




Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: kmxl45 on November 22, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
Copy of Hydrominer project or "just a coincidence"?  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: fratrad on November 22, 2017, 04:14:52 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 22, 2017, 08:27:19 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: fratrad on November 24, 2017, 09:55:16 AM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.
Hello

Yes we have a some similar points with Hydrominer but we have some advantages.
Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !

If you have any questions feel free to ask us  :)

Swisshydro.io


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2017, 03:48:27 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.
Hello

Yes we have a some similar points with Hydrominer but we have some advantages.
Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !

If you have any questions feel free to ask us  :)

Swisshydro.io

Yes, I noticed that you on a couple occasions was hawking your German translation services on this forum. In German, does "have" and "has" translate the same? Also, is the German word of "Land" a proper noun or is there a translation bot that turns common words into proper nouns randomly?

Here's a tougher question: Since Swisshydro is going to be such a huge gamechanger in the crypto space in Switzerland, why have you not yet mentioned it on your personal Twitter account - https://twitter.com/fratrad - considering you've taken the time to hawk other cryptos supposedly not under your control?

Feel free to address the Plagiarism issue At any time, given That others have since echoed my original post on the subject.

Speaking of Twitter, you don't follow you own company on Twitter and it doesn't follow you - https://twitter.com/Swisshydrominer/following

And why you no mention Swisshydro on your FB page in spite of wanting others to like SH on said platform?: https://www.facebook.com/andreas.grobe.1

If you don't address the questions above the next time you log in, then I will create a scam thread on Swisshydro.eieio. Not a threat. A PROMISE!!!



Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: freezzeer on November 24, 2017, 03:52:56 PM
I hope your team will success.Because of the green concept.Good luck dev team.Waiting for further updates in this project :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: fratrad on November 24, 2017, 04:40:41 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.
Hello

Yes we have a some similar points with Hydrominer but we have some advantages.
Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !

If you have any questions feel free to ask us  :)

Swisshydro.io

Yes, I noticed that you on a couple occasions was hawking your German translation services on this forum. In German, does "have" and "has" translate the same? Also, is the German word of "Land" a proper noun or is there a translation bot that turns common words into proper nouns randomly?

Here's a tougher question: Since Swisshydro is going to be such a huge gamechanger in the crypto space in Switzerland, why have you not yet mentioned it on your personal Twitter account - https://twitter.com/fratrad - considering you've taken the time to hawk other cryptos supposedly not under your control?

Feel free to address the Plagiarism issue At any time, given That others have since echoed my original post on the subject.

Speaking of Twitter, you don't follow you own company on Twitter and it doesn't follow you - https://twitter.com/Swisshydrominer/following

And why you no mention Swisshydro on your FB page in spite of wanting others to like SH on said platform?: https://www.facebook.com/andreas.grobe.1

If you don't address the questions above the next time you log in, then I will create a scam thread on Swisshydro.eieio. Not a threat. A PROMISE!!!


Hello, I only work for Swisshydro, im not the CEO.
If you have any further questions you can join our Telegram group and get in touch with the other teammembers.

Swisshydro.io


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: fratrad on November 24, 2017, 04:41:37 PM
I hope your team will success.Because of the green concept.Good luck dev team.Waiting for further updates in this project :)
Thank you! :)

Swisshydro.io


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2017, 04:51:05 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.
Hello

Yes we have a some similar points with Hydrominer but we have some advantages.
Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !

If you have any questions feel free to ask us  :)

Swisshydro.io

Yes, I noticed that you on a couple occasions was hawking your German translation services on this forum. In German, does "have" and "has" translate the same? Also, is the German word of "Land" a proper noun or is there a translation bot that turns common words into proper nouns randomly?

Here's a tougher question: Since Swisshydro is going to be such a huge gamechanger in the crypto space in Switzerland, why have you not yet mentioned it on your personal Twitter account - https://twitter.com/fratrad - considering you've taken the time to hawk other cryptos supposedly not under your control?

Feel free to address the Plagiarism issue At any time, given That others have since echoed my original post on the subject.

Speaking of Twitter, you don't follow you own company on Twitter and it doesn't follow you - https://twitter.com/Swisshydrominer/following

And why you no mention Swisshydro on your FB page in spite of wanting others to like SH on said platform?: https://www.facebook.com/andreas.grobe.1

If you don't address the questions above the next time you log in, then I will create a scam thread on Swisshydro.eieio. Not a threat. A PROMISE!!!


Hello, I only work for Swisshydro, im not the CEO.
If you have any further questions you can join our Telegram group and get in touch with the other teammembers.


Swisshydro.io


Are you a motherfuckin moron like the Investards you're tryin' to extract moneys from?

This is Swisshydro's official thread.

You came here and informed the community that if they had any questions to please ask, alluding that they'll be timely addressed.

Now, you come here and state that all questions are to be directed away from this thread.

Since you ONLY work for HM, don't you fuckin think that what they're being accused of is an important matter, thus getting somebody in official capacity to come to this thread and set the record straight? Or is that above your pay grade?

FWIW, I'm in the process of doxxing the team, so I suggest you get somebody above your scammy ass on the horn.

Bruno (my real name; what's yours?)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2017, 06:43:14 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.
Hello

Yes we have a some similar points with Hydrominer but we have some advantages.
Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !

If you have any questions feel free to ask us  :)

Swisshydro.io

Yes, I noticed that you on a couple occasions was hawking your German translation services on this forum. In German, does "have" and "has" translate the same? Also, is the German word of "Land" a proper noun or is there a translation bot that turns common words into proper nouns randomly?

Here's a tougher question: Since Swisshydro is going to be such a huge gamechanger in the crypto space in Switzerland, why have you not yet mentioned it on your personal Twitter account - https://twitter.com/fratrad - considering you've taken the time to hawk other cryptos supposedly not under your control?

Feel free to address the Plagiarism issue At any time, given That others have since echoed my original post on the subject.

Speaking of Twitter, you don't follow you own company on Twitter and it doesn't follow you - https://twitter.com/Swisshydrominer/following

And why you no mention Swisshydro on your FB page in spite of wanting others to like SH on said platform?: https://www.facebook.com/andreas.grobe.1

If you don't address the questions above the next time you log in, then I will create a scam thread on Swisshydro.eieio. Not a threat. A PROMISE!!!


Hello, I only work for Swisshydro, im not the CEO.
If you have any further questions you can join our Telegram group and get in touch with the other teammembers.

Swisshydro.io

Still waiting, FuckTard ...



Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2017, 07:25:06 PM
Hey, FuckTard, tell your boss that their roadmap is 100% fucked up ...

http://www.swisshydro.io/#aboutus




It's full of grammatical errors and incorporates American and British English spellings to go along with the timeline not making a lick of sense.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2017, 07:32:54 PM
http://www.swisshydro.io/#tokensale

Quote
ICO Start   December 2017
ICO End   January 6 or when hard cap reached (30,000,000 ST)
Token Name   SH
Token Full Name   Swisshydro SH Token
Smart Contract Address   Whitelist to see
Smart Contract Source   https://github.com/swisshydro/token_sale
Token Supply   120,000,000 (30,000,000 sold in ICO)
Exchange Rate   1 ST = 0.01 ETH
Unsold Tokens   Continuous Sale After ICO
Accepted Currencies   ETH
Token Role   Voucher for Mining Contracts

So, your token ticker is SH or ST, depending on what time it is, eh?

Hey, can I be whitelisted so to see the smart contract address? I swear to Jehovah that I won't tell anybody.  ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: H055Y on November 24, 2017, 11:19:54 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it is a silly idea to have an ICO around building a mining plant? If you guys get a loan from a bank you can do the same thing but it will cost u more :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: majestymage on November 24, 2017, 11:25:03 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.
Hello

Yes we have a some similar points with Hydrominer but we have some advantages.
Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !

If you have any questions feel free to ask us  :)

Swisshydro.io

Yes, I noticed that you on a couple occasions was hawking your German translation services on this forum. In German, does "have" and "has" translate the same? Also, is the German word of "Land" a proper noun or is there a translation bot that turns common words into proper nouns randomly?

Here's a tougher question: Since Swisshydro is going to be such a huge gamechanger in the crypto space in Switzerland, why have you not yet mentioned it on your personal Twitter account - https://twitter.com/fratrad - considering you've taken the time to hawk other cryptos supposedly not under your control?

Feel free to address the Plagiarism issue At any time, given That others have since echoed my original post on the subject.

Speaking of Twitter, you don't follow you own company on Twitter and it doesn't follow you - https://twitter.com/Swisshydrominer/following

And why you no mention Swisshydro on your FB page in spite of wanting others to like SH on said platform?: https://www.facebook.com/andreas.grobe.1

If you don't address the questions above the next time you log in, then I will create a scam thread on Swisshydro.eieio. Not a threat. A PROMISE!!!


very good points. i usually take a better look when i see start-ups with eco-friendly promises..but all i see here is just a clone project with a limited/small team behind it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2017, 11:40:12 PM
Can I buy some tokens yet?
Hello, token sale starts in 29 days. You can already sign up for token sale at swisshydro.io  :)

Thanks for the update, Mr. Copy & Paste.
Hello

Yes we have a some similar points with Hydrominer but we have some advantages.
Here in the Swiss Alps, in the Middle of Europe , we are the Centre of the decentralized CO2 neutral and Ecofriendly mining. Our Land have the biggest Opportunities for Hydropower !

If you have any questions feel free to ask us  :)

Swisshydro.io

Yes, I noticed that you on a couple occasions was hawking your German translation services on this forum. In German, does "have" and "has" translate the same? Also, is the German word of "Land" a proper noun or is there a translation bot that turns common words into proper nouns randomly?

Here's a tougher question: Since Swisshydro is going to be such a huge gamechanger in the crypto space in Switzerland, why have you not yet mentioned it on your personal Twitter account - https://twitter.com/fratrad - considering you've taken the time to hawk other cryptos supposedly not under your control?

Feel free to address the Plagiarism issue At any time, given That others have since echoed my original post on the subject.

Speaking of Twitter, you don't follow you own company on Twitter and it doesn't follow you - https://twitter.com/Swisshydrominer/following

And why you no mention Swisshydro on your FB page in spite of wanting others to like SH on said platform?: https://www.facebook.com/andreas.grobe.1

If you don't address the questions above the next time you log in, then I will create a scam thread on Swisshydro.eieio. Not a threat. A PROMISE!!!


very good points. i usually take a better look when i see start-ups with eco-friendly promises..but all i see here is just a clone project with a limited/small team behind it.

I have no qualms with the size of their team. In this case, their LinkedIn pages checkout, albeit the first one lacks much info like his FB page but not unlike his Twitter account which is littered with everything but ... wait for it ... content pertaining to Swisshydro. There is a slight possibility that the other two LinkedIn accounts were purchased, then altered, neither of which contain any sort of recommendations.

Am I the only one who thinks it is a silly idea to have an ICO around building a mining plant? If you guys get a loan from a bank you can do the same thing but it will cost u more :)

Conducting an ICO for building a mining plant is not necessarily silly, but doing such under obvious false pretense is most definitely scamish to the nth degree.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: psycodad on November 25, 2017, 04:54:02 PM
http://www.swisshydro.io/#tokensale

Quote
ICO Start   December 2017
ICO End   January 6 or when hard cap reached (30,000,000 ST)
Token Name   SH
Token Full Name   Swisshydro SH Token
Smart Contract Address   Whitelist to see
Smart Contract Source   https://github.com/swisshydro/token_sale
Token Supply   120,000,000 (30,000,000 sold in ICO)
Exchange Rate   1 ST = 0.01 ETH
Unsold Tokens   Continuous Sale After ICO
Accepted Currencies   ETH
Token Role   Voucher for Mining Contracts

So, your token ticker is SH or ST, depending on what time it is, eh?

Hey, can I be whitelisted so to see the smart contract address? I swear to Jehovah that I won't tell anybody.  ;) ;) ;)

The ticker must obviously be ST, as SH is taken by Shilling since 2016:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1588787.0


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 25, 2017, 05:22:24 PM
http://www.swisshydro.io/#tokensale

Quote
ICO Start   December 2017
ICO End   January 6 or when hard cap reached (30,000,000 ST)
Token Name   SH
Token Full Name   Swisshydro SH Token
Smart Contract Address   Whitelist to see
Smart Contract Source   https://github.com/swisshydro/token_sale
Token Supply   120,000,000 (30,000,000 sold in ICO)
Exchange Rate   1 ST = 0.01 ETH
Unsold Tokens   Continuous Sale After ICO
Accepted Currencies   ETH
Token Role   Voucher for Mining Contracts

So, your token ticker is SH or ST, depending on what time it is, eh?

Hey, can I be whitelisted so to see the smart contract address? I swear to Jehovah that I won't tell anybody.  ;) ;) ;)

The ticker must obviously be ST, as SH is taken by Shilling since 2016:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1588787.0

Ahhhhhhhh, so that's why SwissHydro refers to their token as SH and not ST ...


I'm such a retard!  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: dspencer on November 25, 2017, 10:29:17 PM
As we all know, our planet is suffering greatly from us still relying on old technologies. Cryptocurrencies by design require only digital interactions and make no impact on the environment. Mining uses up electricity, and it is our duty to make sure that what we do leaves no scars on our one and only planet!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ICO]|Swisshydro| Green Mining in switzerland. Ecofriendly and CO2 neutral
Post by: mrelich on November 26, 2017, 12:18:17 AM
Looking at that project, i am quite sure it is not worthy to invest. Thanks guys for valuable posts !