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Dear fellow bitcoiners,

From 2013, I am in the same ship as you.
During this period, I hodled hard my little stash of btc, and no shitstorm (and i saw many) was able to scare me.

During the fork I dumped bch future for 0.1 or so, and I was happy with that. When it pumped to 0.25 I was again not scared, I feelled like I was a veteran and was sad for all newbies buying it, because I was thinking that bch was a shilling operation for segwi2x and nothing more.


Now, I am fucking scared.

Please comfort me

for this I give u an advice to keep your self on safe side. keep equal amounts of both BTC and BCH in your wallet. So u will not need to worry anymore regarding any development in both projects

I already dumped all and I'm scared of buying back at this price too -_-

I'm just fucked up

My advice is, put money into altcoins like litecoin / monero / dash.
Diversify a little bit.

You should be scared.  What Blockstream did to BTC is scary.  Thankfully Jesus saves.  And this time again, Jesus did just that.  Jesus saved Bitcoin by preserving the original system - which is now called 'Bitcoin Cash'.  SegWit Bitcoin is dying.

Just remember, you can always rely on Jesus.  Bitcoin Jesus!!!

there is no need to scare, invest some of your money for buying  BCH for long term and try to buy some BTC when it will Dump around 4000 usd.
It is safe for long term trader.

It's no big deal, my friend.However, I personally think that BCH is always a kind of altcoin and should not replace BTC.But Jesus supported BCH, and I couldn't say anything. I could only keep silent.The future will be better.

So do you believe Bitcoin Cash will dethrone and replace Bitcoin? Is there any way how I can see which mining pool switched and is now mining BCH instead of BTC?

Below 4000 usd ??  ::) Are you kidding me ?  

Can someone actually catch me up on whats going on?  Everyone is just saying they are scared?  Scared of the fork coming?  What are you actually scared of?  Some of you are mentioning Bitcoin cash?  Did it rise like crazy or something?  Are you referencing Bitcoin dropping 600 dollars?  Give some more details!

You could indeed buy Bitcoin cash, but also hold Bitcoin, because Bitcoin will soon get back on track again and rise to 8K. Chinese miners want Bitcoin cash to replace Bitcoin and that is a little scary. But Bitcoin will not be replaced.

Your profile showed that you are an  old timer in Bitcoin forum.  It's not cool for you to spread fear or even being sarcastic !!

This is another effect of segwit2x cancelled. Many people buy a lot of BCH today's in order to pump the the BCH price as high. Any other comment, this will not going last long, when it has peaked, they will sell again all of its assets and buy-back bitcoin.
For now, it is very difficult to predict what should be done either hold/sell, because we already known some people buy much btc before SegWit2x this November to gain profit by received free coins from fork result, but unfortunately it has been cancelled.

I'm not FUDding, i really feel not confortable in this situation.
Many old bitcoiners are scared, this forking thing had gone too far, and this sudden bch switch is worrying.

I will not buy bch anyway, but I think this situation can be no good for bitcoin

Hi, Don't need to be scared when you trace back to history of Bitcoin. What happened now was just like a small piece of cake compared to before. Just be relax, don't always think about the price,and go out for a walk is very helpful...hahahaha

I've still got the little bit of BCH that I was given. It looks like a good time to switch it to Bitcoin. I don't want to start accepting it for domain sales, as I don't like the confusion resulting from the use of Bitcoin in its name.

Nonsense.The person you are terming as bitcoin jesus Roger ver has much earlier turned in to Bitcoin antichrist.So you advice to trust and follow antichrist and invest in his satanic creation bitcoin cash.Only the truth will prevail.No body could deny the point that BCH is just being pumped.

Since the OP thinks that a few good words could satisfy him because he did not invest in it,who problem is that,if you dumped the coin at a good price and got into bitcoin you made a much bigger profit and you had the time to enter bitcoin cash when the price went down,make sure you take that opportunity or never cry about it because the ship has sailed,i would not enter when the price is rallying i would wait for a correction and then make up my decision whether to board it or not. ;)

Your looking for comfort but honestly Roger Ver represents a real threat to Bitcoin.  Even if he fails this month.  He will probably be back later. He is intelligent, wealthy and very persistent.

Well i believe that everyone had its point of view some people really didnt make it simple specially through handling thier emotions.i believe everyone will really scared most of all when we get lost .but when we  dont do something new or different we will remain nothing.i believe doing bitcoin really gives us an experience to learn more about bitcoin so then i suggest to ingage bitcoin today and be a prudent person on making decisions tommorow that how it goes productivity depends on how you used your time today.so we have now  an option to use it through possitive things.

What are you scared of? That bitcoincash is no good or what? You haven't actually said.

Just keep trying to make lots of little bits of profit and you will do very well. The nature of trading is very scary. Some can handle it some not. You sold your bch at a bad time bit it's ok because it is good profit and you are in the green and good to go. BTG has gone up lots osteky. Let's hope it keeps going.

Just convert 20% of your BTC to BCH and hedge that.  That will give you 1:1 hedge and you'll do well no matter what.

I have been around quite long to know the fact that i should be calm in times like this one, but i totally share your feelings. I can no longer keep Bitcoin because it is so stressful. I used to support a side during this BTC vs BCC fight so far but know i am tired of it. This is no longer about Bitcoin but about their EGO and PROFIT. I will stay in Ethereum until they remember only thing matter is Bitcoin and freedom. Screw them all really!

I would. But I don't want to act in panic, plus I am not rich in bitcoin at all so i don't need to be much conservative, I am only feared to lose the hope of being rich in bitcoin in the future.

I still think that segwit is a much better solution than biggest blocks, i just have to change my pants because I shitted them.
But after a few hours I understood that this is just war,
 even if I am scared I have not to retreat.

Bitcoin will win.

Well, in the long term, BTC will raise even if BCH took a part of this value.

If you need cash right now from your BTC, it is not the good moment.
If you hodl, you don't have to be scared.

With all the information spreading the internet now around bitcoin and bitcoincash it's hard to distinguish real information. It's almost like the US election at this point. If you want to be safe just hold both. If you already sold your BCC it may be safer to hold an altcoin for now, until the smoke clears. Ultimately the market will decide the future of bitcoin.

Maybe it's time to wake up from the sweet dream. Nobody promised us that happiness would be eternal. Sooner or later we would have to face the reality that bitcoin was not as strong as many assumed. But not everything is finished, we can still rescue something. But while it is convenient to be cautious and think about the possibility of diversifying our investments.

You've with bitcoin since 2013 and you are scared. What more for those who are just recently exploring the wonder of bitcoin and it's profit. Just a thought.  I am staying with BTC for now.

haha, you are right. He bought BTC from 2013 and now he has big profit even BTC price goes down under $6000. What are he scaring? lol.

Dude, why would you spread panic? If you really know bitcoin since 2013, you can't doubt its sustainability. BCC - trash.

It won't ever touch 4k usd again, It will probably touch 5k usd before shooting back up again in the coming one or two weeks.

If you want to invest in BCH now i think it would be the worst time to do it, wait till the hype dies down a little and it goes back down to 700-800 before buying in.

I was scared last week but now i am in panic. I heard about the China thing and then the new Bitcoin Gold.. I dont know what to think anymore.. My all savings in BTC right now..

I think this is just a game by some whales , they bought in bch at 5/600 dollar .
Just to hype it up now as the new btc. People are gonna get dumped on.

I think I'm a holder of BTC have nothing to worry about. BCC centralized coin, it will not be able to replace bitcoin.

Fear is what causes you to lose money and gives the market manipulators an easy way to take your money. What is so amusing is that people are giving them their money willingly because of this.

I just sold off my meager BCH stash from the fork and I am now only holding Bitcoin. If BCH drop below half of what I sold it for, I may buy back some again for a hedge, but right now I have no regrets.

I don't think the BCH pump is sustainable long-term, but simply a way to scare people into selling their precious BTC for for the less valuable BCH. Just be careful as in a month or two the situation could be reversed again and BCH is worth $200 while BTC is pushing toward $10k.

Not just you man many people are having the same problem. Most of them dumped it and brought ALT coins and I personally think that's the best thing to do. I really hope you do something clever just sit down and think.

Only got his BCH , and they flew up. Well, how so? Now I will take them again for the correction :-\

I cannae believe someone who sat through 2014/15 is scared.

Give the current level of price action, volume and hash rate one solid month of BCH's beasting it and then you might start to have the right to be uneasy.

It's barking to get worked up over rapid spikes in anything. Anything can be made to spike. Attempting to make it stick is when you see who or what the real deal is.

Are you either scared or that you have regretted that you sold your bitcoin cash for bitcoin. I think you shouldn't be feeling that way because it is already pass and I always said that it would have been good if those who got bitcoin cash freely would have hold it so that had the value rises it you would have gotten some more money.

that's it end of story.
but you can try to make some extra from waves but not recommended.
those jihan wuu teams became spending their entire energies how to screw that's why i don't belive will be succesfull.
here is another trick when they need btc or bitcoin cash for speculation they put their asic in sales
well you bought and antminer for $1500 yupp and paid 8bcc here we go bcc is $1200 Jihan wuu screw you again.
sold D3 asic miner for $2700 when btc was 2.1k now
d3 is $1500 fckn garage heater is loud and way craet heat when not create a real income until dash hits $500+
for short-term honestly, do not underestimate Jihan WUU and his band but how long?
btc is king and will remain as king.

I suggest only not to be relax in just holding bitcoin cash at all, to play safe try to be more equal or more safer :D invest or put your money into alt coins which like bitcoin cash and do not forget to sail on bitcoin alone, we can see the good progress with bitcoin and its skyrocketing price every now and then.

Trying to have equal amounts in Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash might be not a good idea. It might be a trap to make the whales reach. We don't know what will happen is coming days.

Well all the poeple are scared and concerned about the bitcoin dropping a bit and btc cash going up, but the thing this is not the first time we have seen this happening, a veteran bitcoin user will truley know that bitcoin will rise no matter what happens even if it takes it a while but eventually it will get back again, and this recent increase in the btc cash's price is just due to the fact that devs want to people to support it and secure its network by mining it, so they are making it easier to mine compared to btc, but its difficulty will increase quickly and people will get back to mining bitcoin again.

Will there be any future improvements to BTC ?? I just tried to send a small amount of bitcoin and the transaction fee was £12 !!! over $15 for a transaction fee, so I cancelled the transaction... Bitcoin needs its block size increased without another stupid fork.

I love BTC but things need to be improved, I see the benefits of BCH but at the end of the day, it is an altcoin, no different to litecoin. We need improvements to BTC without a fork

The people pushing BCH are the ones who've forced your fee up so high. Address your complaints to them, but they probably won't be hugely interested in listening. Their plans are more important than your utility.

If you check the amount of mining hash rate of bitcoin in the past and if you check the hash rate in the past two days you will understand why the transaction fees are higher and why there is a large amount of unconfirmed transactions,the miners are switching to bitcoin cash at the moment and so is the reason we have a huge drop in hash rate,we have a correction in bitcoin but i still believe that it will recover in due time.

so big amount miners switching to bitcoin cash is the main reason of price up ? if all people going to bitcoin cash , i am very afraid that bitcoin's blockchain

network will have problem such as long time block comfirm , today bitcoin's situation is not optimistic.

you are so sure.
I think that one day you will see from the graph BCH will be able to match BTC.
hopefully it happens.

Bitcoin has resisted every altcoin until now, I believe it is safe to assume it will continue to be dominant in the years to come.

Biggest development community still with bitcoin, if you need to bet, bet where the talent is.

Yes your idea is great because you need to balance everything so that you will not loss or win. But i believe that you can gain a lot of profit if you try this idea. As of now it is hard to predict bitcoin and BCH .

Just don't yield to FOMO and stick with the original vision of Bitcoin Core. Bitcoin Cash is just a heavily manipulated shitcoin that embodies everything that Bitcoin stands up against. Don't give the Bitmain and Bitfinex clowns and their goons the time of the day and just let BCH pretend that people actually care about it.

Yes it is hard to predict the price of bitcoin and BCH now if it is goes up or down but they can also give a good profit if we study their price history because their is also a good point to enter at that market on which they can be able to provide a huge profit for everyone.

Wel, the coin market changes so fast, when I woke up one hour ago, I mean, What the hell the the BTC price is going oonnnn? :-[

SegWit2x was cancelled, so people moved out of Bitcoin to realize their profits.

There's also a lot of market manipulation going on by the founders of Bitcoin Cash (stay away from this).

They deliberately flooded the Bitcoin Core network to make the transactions slower and more expensive and then manipulated the Bitcoin Cash price with their huge stashes of Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash to trigger miners to move to Bitcoin Cash and to get people into FOMO buying.


This will eventually come back crashing down though.

Stay safe and don't let these scammers fool you.

Your comment made my day and gave me a laugh in this high tensed btc-bch time..  ;D ;D

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Yes, BTC is under attack by very powerful and manipulative people using FUD/FOMO to help their agenda. Are they doing some damage? Some.

But they are using everything they have right now and aren't able to drop BTC below $6200ish and raise BCH above the mid $1300 range with all of their might.

This is on top of the expected market correction after the fork, mind you.

It may be ok to move a little into BCH vs. the alts, since the alts seem to just be sticking to their usual patterns and BCH is climbing. You'd just better to be ready to bail out of BCH at a moment's notice because if there's a sell off by the whales manipulating BCH, it could get very ugly very quickly.

It's not ok to move into BCH. That just helps these deceptive devils. Just move into Tether or altcoins if you're afraid of holding Bitcoin, but don't support those Bitcoin Cash criminals.

There is more to life than just quick profits.

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BTCMILLIONAIRE is a Crypto Champion!!!

Meh.  This is a dip, IMO--we're in a very strong bull market and these things are normal.  Though I really have no idea exactly where the price is headed, I think we're going to rebound and go higher.  You remember a couple of months ago when we dipped down to $1900?  Now that's a serious dip, and look what happened.

I get the fear of buying back at $6XXX, but I don't think doing so would be a mistake.  And if you don't, you'll be kicking yourself for waiting.  I think we're probably headed to $10K and above.  Crypto is just getting hot!

You bet it is getting hot. Look at this price prediction:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-400000-says-investing-guru-mark-yusko

There is nothng anyone can say to you  which might "un-scare" you. If you have ridden the waves til now you may as well hodl on tight and see where we go here. I am sure it will be all right in the end.

Top notch wordplay skills.

Don't invest your money in one basket. you can diversify. but pretty sure when btc hit 6,000usd it will bounce back to 7,000 believe me coz i look the chart it will go up in few days. as of now you can buy alt coins and wait for retracement again. so don't be scared :)

Why did you dump everything?

Why would someone scared on this situation, last August of this year, everyone who own Bitcoin received equal amount of Bitcoin Cash.

Can we stop and think for a while, why would Bitcoin Cash have to do a luxurious offer, is there a catch?

And now after few months, Bitcoin Cash raise to almost 2000$, is there something wrong about that?

it was the old saying, history repeat itself. 

Bitcoin Cash is just being manipulated. Ver and his goons bought their own coins and triggered a FOMO wave.

The only history that repeats itself here is the attempted coup d'etat by manipulative scumbags.

There is nothing to scare if you can manage it well by creating a equal amount of capital invested in all the major altcoins including the bitcoin and bitcoin cash. You just make sure that the coins where you invest your capital is good and worth to try investment over there. Try to invest in coins like Neocoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Dash, Monero, Ripple etc where your investment would a safer one for a longer time period.

I  would suggest better set your own price limits that will determine your buying and selling price. Price of all crypto currency will continuously change in the future you are going to see a lot of increase and decrease in the price.

i'm scared because if somebody get my private key, I will stop BTC.

It seems like BCH at times moves in the opposite direction of BTC.  So my advice would be to hold both and use BCH as hedge against the price movements of BTC.  Even if you're not a huge believer in BCH, it's not like it's evil or something like that.  Maybe its' best use case is for a hedging instrument.  And in that way, I am a believer.

What I found interesting is that currently Bitmain is only accepting BCH for certain pre-order batches.  I Purchased one miner and power supply from them and monitored the BCH transaction.  They currently have over 28,000 BCH in 1 wallet (that's about 33 million USD currently just sitting there).  I think they are banking on BCH taking over.  They are making some bank, that is for sure.

Bitcoin Cash's market cap is still small enough for people to manipulate the markets with a few millions. They can do this because Bitcoin Cash is only traded on 1 or 2 exchanges. So they pull resources together and synchronize a combined pump of the price. They will then wait for the price to go much higher and then they dump for a profit.

It is no secret conspiracy, because this practice is perfectly legal in the Crypto currency world. ^hmmmmm^

Op was supposed to be the one guiding newbies in this jungle, but it turned out he missed his way! At any rate, it's no news that BCH, BCC, BTG and B2X are all failed schemes calculated to derail and dethrone Bitcoin. Not like they care whatever happens to Bitcoin, they simply want the brand name because of its economic significance.

We shall be seeing them occasionally going out of their ways to make impression on people, like offering you free coins or pumping any of the above out of rationality - no need to panic when toothless bull dogs bark and Bitcoin will always stay ahead of them all because it got the support of users, which is what that truly matters.

It's called market manipulation and in crypto it's not illegal. Alas, there is no such thing as using BCash as a hedge and the best hedge is to stay out of BCash.

I am actually dont have a clue what are you scared about, if you scared then dont play in crypto currencies and like others say, you have been a hero member, a long time member should comfort and give guidance for the newbie and yet you spread something that make people hesitate to buy, dont spend the money that you cant afford to lose, its just that simple

Dont be alarmed just keep your BTC because as far as BCH goes with its quick pump it will surely crash anytime soon. Cause it looks like roger ver is spreading fake proganda that bitcoin cash is bitcoin which is why bitcoin  cash pump.

Ver and Wu have quite a lot of coins left to manipulat markets with, BCash might stick around a bit longer. It still is just a shady scamcoin though.