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Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

Look in the mirror. You could have a ph.d.(tbh i doubt that very much) and still be the same 3rd world idiot.

I.e. egypt college graduates have an avg iq of around 90.

The goal: to produce interchangeable drones! The worst is if they were trained in ciritical thinking, they would realize the goal of their "education". Like roman racing horses... After the finish line is the butchers...

I agree to that. Many are educated but few are mannered. Many educated people has PhD or higher than that but their values towards environment, the way they see others are lower people, the way they treat the poor is remarkably unacceptable. I don't see education can really make us literate in all aspects. We maybe educated mentally but not morally, spiritually and emotionally.

It does not mean you are a man who has only a title suffix title you, you are a blind hurup if you can not keep your surroundings around you, littering, making troublemakers and so forth

I agree with you that it won't but, you can't define all degree holders like that. Does your "bolded" statement pointed generally to all person who have degrees? That's a big NO. There are persons who do that and there is who doesn't. It all comes from the nature of a person if he/she will act as an educated.  As for me, having a degree just add upon your knowledge on what you're specializing and that's it.

Cleaning or doing a mess shit job which is traditionally assign to illiterate does not make you an illiterate even if you hold PHD. If you are graduate but can't  apply the knowledge acquired to enhance your self and family makes you illiterate.

THe most basic problem for me I think is thinking that your education entitles you yo a lot more than the people who dont have. BEing well learned in one thing only means you might be an expert there however kothing compares to what is really being in there means

there are a lot of people who are graduate in college but still uneducated especially their parents they treat them as there servant they still dont know what they are talking if that is wrong or correct .

Absolutely agree.
Can add, that any knoledge is nothinh without practice and experience.
So if you were a golden boy in school doesn't mean that you are smart.

I agree. Sometimes a graduate but still illiterate is lack of manners. It doesn't mean that you are literate if you are graduated and educated. If you do not treat people in a good way then youre illiterate. Sometimes having a good manner can makes you literate even youre not graduated.

There are a lot of people with even university degrees who are completely ignorant, while there are people with no university and exceptional knowledge. Degrees are just paper.

Schooling system is fcked up. Students aim to get a degree, instead of learning and harnessing their skills as an individual.

Yes I agree with you. Many people in my country keep cram English book become 100% in TOEFL but cannot speak and if they read English newspaper they will keep English dictionary for a word looking.

Actually in today's world you often are forced to do these jobs as a graduate. It's not the degree that matters but your family, social status, friends, and whether you can push yourself above all others. Pushing yourself means that you are willing to do things other people won't like sleeping with your boss or telling on your coworkers.

It is possible but you pulled out a scenario that is unlikely and you cannot put that on all people who are educated neither. Due to these fallacies we must throw that logic out the window and start fresh. I will say that some

people who are book smart have zero life smarts and it is hilarious to watch in action. Then again they probably think it is hilarious to watch a person who is life smart fall flat on their face when it comes to books and quizzes

In the current world earning a degree is useless and of no value when you don't make use of it and get a job. Right now we go to school with the sole purpose of getting jobs in the near future. 

Completely perfectly agreed, Knowing how to solve maths problems and read book do not make people clever. Educated people does not mean that they are enlighted. If education does not enlighten people , It does not work. Schools and universities must help people to find their enlightenment.

Knowledge is certainly a necessary thing for human development, but it can not become educated. Not many are able to become educated, some just do not have enough knowledge for this.

Having a degree it doesn't mean you have a good attitude but it's up to you how you handle it.

People nowadays are educating but they are not learning. That's why civilization in this era is unthinkable!!

They want a score and certificate, not the knowledge/education.

Well, I've never met a person with degree that was illiterate or incabable to think critically. Maybe I'm just a lucky one, who knows  ;D But I don't talk about the moral qualities, that's another question

Yes, Indeed. Peoples goal nowadays are more focused on what wonderful job they will get. Even if they don't learn as much, they still want to have a better life. People wanted to go and find a loophole in getting those degree rather than working hard and learning to get them. I guess the conveniency of anything from the effects of technology got a hold of how people think, this conveniency led to the lazyness of all students that instead of aiming for harnessing and perfecting their skills, all they want is to graduate and have their dream job.

Graduate but still illiterate depending on what learnings a person needs.  There are those who are good or graduated college yet illiterate of the real world was.  There are those things that are learnt only from experience and not at school. And so there are still graduate who are still illiterate.

Graduate but still illiterate depending on what learnings a person needs.  There are those who are good or graduated college yet illiterate of the real world was.  There are those things that are learnt only from experience and not at school. And so there are still graduate who are still illiterate.

Interesting conversation.
Some of the times,  paper degrees are overrated. People now tend to be more obsessed with just the appellation or titles they are called, by the reason of the degrees they hold.

I believe,  It's not enough to acquire paper degrees, it's about its relativity to real life use case! In the end, For some paper degrees seekers, it's all about 'what they GET and not what they can GIVE back  in return'. Think about that.

I agree. You may be well off academically but in the real world, application of the things you've learnes through books isn't that easy. Many graduate because they're good with memorizing formulas and equations. You have very limited practical use for that i. The real world

Achieving degree does not mean your educated and make you better than the others, even a simple grade school students can be educated when he apply what he learn and knows how to treat others fairly and knows how to get along with other without being arrogant and can clean up mess degrading others, character still wins.

.     That is always the problem because people who got higher education they forgot to do that simply small things they are dep3nding to those who are at the lower level. Maybe because they think that they getting down to do it. The pride maybe.

Education means educating your mind and behavior, it does not mean getting a graduation degree. If one is having graduation degree and unable to educate his/her mind so this type of education is useless. One must behave in an educated manner.

Nowadays the one sitting in the educational institutes with ph.d degrees are illiterate because they are demanding higher admission fees without thinking of the poor public.

I have met intolerable PhD candidates who are self righteous and others with no formal education but have a lot more to offer with regards to wisdom, love and life in general. It's really quite sad that the global education system is slowly deteriorating into certificate churning mills.

This is true, getting a degrre doesn't make you literate or smart. I know a lot of big headed people who are degree holders who are stupid literally in real life. Diploma doesn't certify that a person is smart. There are lots of people who are not degree holders yet are genuises.

You are right my friend. Graduating is not enough for being well educated person. But also you have to improve yourself with experiences of life school. When you may use knowledges that you learned in college in real life, then you will be different from many people and this character will open many ways for success.

Graduation does not make a person educated, to be educated means educating mind and behavior. Degrees cannot shape our personality but manners can shape our personality. If you are unable to treat others well so cannot called yourself educated. Books cannot teach us wisdom its our experience which educate us morally.

GEtting an educations means that you just have more tools than what other kight have if they did not graduate or studied. HOwever it is no use if you dont know hot to utilize them and thats where other can be more literste than you and that is something we must remember and pinder on

no offense but as you graduated in college your an educated person doesn't mean that your not an illiterate; illiteracy not comes from knowledge and wisdom only it comes from even educated person bullying and bullying others even in social media.

Graduate ? *** ;D

Sometimes teachers pass their students even illiterate for the consideration in many ways.
Social promotion-promoting that students regardless of when or whether they learned the required knowledge to maintain their peer age and protect their self esteem.and sometimes not all students are excellent in academic but they actually excellent in extra curricular .

In elementary for instance, teachers do their work but some parents are not very participative in doing their responsibilities. Instead, they give all the tasks in educating their children on the hands of teachers. I hope parents take their responsibilities in rearing and educating their children seriously and religiously.

You can not just rely on an educational degree to achieve your dreams. Beyond that, you need a vibrant spirit and endless hard work. when you begin to enter the world of work, you are required to work hard to be able to climb the ladder to the top of success. A spirit that never goes out is needed so you do not decide to stop and fall down in the middle of the road.

if you still think that high education can always lead one to the top of success, change your mindset right now. Only fighting spirit and hard work can be the main ingredient to taste success

Some people have passed through school but do not possess what is expected of them to be called a graduate. I know of a boy in my school (university) days who cannot write down correctly his own personal details when need arises. His classmates were wondering how he managed to pass WAEC, JAMB and gained admission into university. This same boy was consistently been embarrassed for involving in series of examination malpractices. However, eventually he still managed and graduated though with extra years. Certificate is issued on the basis that the students have learned and showed unquestionable character. In our society today it is very common to see graduates still behaving and acting like people who did not attend a higher institution. Many graduates today are like illiterates especially in their field of study where they spent some years but cannot defend themselves let alone using it to solve problem.

When you go to school, they teach you what are in the books, teachers have planned lessons and the whole year you are credited educational systems. Which of these even guarantees you are literate? The school gives you a diploma but, life gives you the best part, manners. You may have gone to a well-educated facility but have you picked up good moral conduct to go with that? I am no saint but I try my best to practice good deeds. Being literate not just in education but also for the well-being of the human race.

Its true degree cant make you smart or educated or civilized or good human being because degrees can be purchased anywhere in the world. If you have money you can go to best colleges or universities, example for that is many dictators and their kids attended very prestigious colleges and universities around the world but still their attitude and behavior for other human beings remain poor or indecent, another example is top executive in big firms comes from big universities and colleges but many of them directly or indirectly involved in fraudulent activities. we believe getting degree or diploma is education but actual education is how an individual think, behave and conduct themselves in different situations.

I don't see anything strange here. It is common nowadays, when people go to university to do nothing. I really don't know why they do this? It is just a waste of time and money. Maybe this happens, because they go to university, because everyone goes, but in fact they don't really need this. And graduate fully illiterate just like they didn't study for 3 or 4 years. Finally, your knowledge depends only on your willingness to know.

Unfortunately, this is a common occurrence. Acadmically knowledge doesn`t make a person wise. A person really becomes smarter only when he learns from life, and not from books.