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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: GaMeOveR-xD on November 14, 2017, 08:23:56 AM



Title: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: GaMeOveR-xD on November 14, 2017, 08:23:56 AM
DON'Trust

DON'Trust people. They will steal your money. If you can't finish KYC validation. Your money will be stealed by utrust.
I was send mail. I want back my refunds. They said; go buy Passport. How we can trust you?


SCAMMERS stealing money! Businesses protecting people's. You will be scammer ! You can't beat bitpay or Paypal.

https://i.hizliresim.com/PO2o5d.png

https://i.hizliresim.com/g9vAk0.png

https://i.hizliresim.com/9DW5VZ.png

https://i.hizliresim.com/qJQl4Z.png

But they have bounty thread. HOW YOU CAN SEND CRYPTOCURRENCY WITHOUT PASSPORT? Where is your Swiss Laws?

And they banned me in telegram channel. LMAO

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Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: Iruwen on November 14, 2017, 09:50:19 AM
There are many red flags about this.

- see https://cryptobriefing.com/utrust-ico-review-token-analysis/

- they changed the ICO conditions and company structure after the presale and during the ICO

- their ANN thread is flooded by paid bounty shills, so that legitimate questions and concerns disappear quickly

- their Swiss subsidiary is a shell company run by Marc Philipp Brühwiler, a known scammer
https://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/company/utrust-switzerland-ag-12191824201/detail#contact
https://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/company/utrust-switzerland-ag-12191824201
https://www.beobachter.ch/finanzen/vermogensverwaltung-kapitalfehler-inbegriffen

- they claimed to be regulated by FINMA, but the FINMA doesn't regulate ICOs and after that they quickly changed their site
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078433.msg24339741#msg24339741
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078433.msg24350300#msg24350300



Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: snakey on November 14, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
If they are asking for KYC after people participated in ICO then they are fraud, in fact KYC should be taken before a customer makes any financial account.
I wont trust or participate in any ICO which does has KYC requirement to be filled, I am using Bitcoin to be anonymous.


Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: bct_ail on November 14, 2017, 11:35:13 AM
If they are asking for KYC after people participated in ICO then they are fraud, in fact KYC should be taken before a customer makes any financial account.
I wont trust or participate in any ICO which does has KYC requirement to be filled, I am using Bitcoin to be anonymous.
But the law could be changed during an ICO. That was the same with MODUM. The swiss law has changed and they asked people which have invested more than 5000USD to do a KYC. But they said, nobody have to. But due to the change in law, it would be easier for them to handle the money. The dialog with modum was very well and so many people did their KYC after the ICO was finished. Why? Because they trust MODUM.


Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: p_zapplaran on November 14, 2017, 12:26:08 PM
the swiss law didn't change... what the heck do your research

i'm swiss and there are discussions ongoing but there no law.... yet...

i also think it's a scam:

quote of me from another thread


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and let us not forget the scam infos going round about Marc Brühwiler with companies in panama
https://www.beobachter.ch/finanzen/vermogensverwaltung-kapitalfehler-inbegriffen
i'm swiss, i know the story back then... and beobachter.ch is official, go check yourself

but a coin has a bit of hype and everbody jumps right in

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Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: slimypuppy54 on November 14, 2017, 12:38:54 PM
Even if it is no scam, the amount of money they get to keep because of failed "KYC" processes will be more than enough.


Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: Bitsurfer333 on November 14, 2017, 08:35:53 PM
good to know, i wanted to invest but now they don't see money from me...


Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: tacc on November 23, 2017, 07:07:00 PM
My widraw is complicated? ..... this is my token i bought from him!!! .. why should i use ID? ... since i used cryptocurrency as annonimous ... this is very funny


Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: cdtc on November 24, 2017, 04:39:54 AM
good to know, i wanted to invest but now they don't see money from me...

Yep looks like a scam.


Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: RonMank on November 24, 2017, 11:57:47 AM
If they are asking for KYC after people participated in ICO then they are fraud, in fact KYC should be taken before a customer makes any financial account.
I wont trust or participate in any ICO which does has KYC requirement to be filled, I am using Bitcoin to be anonymous.

Ico started at 2 November. The following article is from October 6:

https://medium.com/@UTRUST/great-news-91ed17ba0322

ICO Participants already knew that KYC will be required.


Title: Re: Don'Ttrust !!! | uTrust Stealing Your Money |
Post by: Victory2015 on November 29, 2017, 10:40:58 AM
People that joined the ICO should have known about the KYC, they even agreed with it.
But people that joined the pre-ICO did not know. It would not be fair that they are forced to deliver KYC documents. They should get the option to get a refund because Utrust changed the rules after the 'game' was started.