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Finally, BitCoinCash is given a bitter dose of medicine of its making. Bitcoin wobbled in the past week due to the abrupt migration to BitCoinCash after the official cancellation of SegWit2x as there was an artificial doubt on the future of Bitcoin given its perennial problems especially on the scaling challenge. Bitcoin then made a big dip...now lucky are those who take advantage of the situation by buying more when it was still cheaper.

Now, Bitcoin is almost reaching the $8,000 and is poised to reach an all-time high again...this is happening despite being fresh from the battleground. As a revenge by the 'nerds' Bitcoin us up, up and away while at the same BitCoinCash is retreating...now who is saying that BCH is the new BTC?

There will always be one and only Bitcoin and that is Bitcoin itself...no more no less!

It was below $800 each one a few minutes ago, but now it seems that it is recovering and it is over $950 p/bcash at the moment.
it is increasing, i dont know the reason, maybe some people still have hope on that cash and this is why they are buying tons of bcash. I have never trusted in that coin, i only made some profit from it by trading, nothing more. But there is some people who switched all their funds to this coin, and that is insane because they all knew that bitcoin was never going to be replaced, not even by bcash.

Finally, after too much pump on bitcoin cash this past days from new accounts made for that particular reason the fork coin “Bitcoin cash” will soon be back to its well deserved arrangement as shitcoin. They’ve tried and soon will make the same scenario and have the tendency to failed again. Bitcoin is still the king and always be for many years to come in the cryptocurrency world and investments. Tired of Bitcoin is a bubble FUD by this menions.

Just lets see the charts today to see how much it can drop, i dont think that it will drop a lot because you have think about those miners who are still mining bitcoin cash.
But most of the predictions about bitcoin cash and the new bitcoin clashic fork were right, the price was suddenly going to go down quickly, it is very impressive because i remember that it was more than $2500 three days ago... But they diserved it, they tried to hit bitcoin and now they have been hitted back.
Bitcoin towards 8,5k asap!

It is quite expected to be honest. Bitcoin Cash is just expected to be on mainstream early after the release and for a short period of time just like Bitcoin Gold before. Bitcoin is still a better crypto especially foe a long run. Bitcoin's market value have now reaches 8000$ and is continuously rising. Maybe before this year end, it will be able to break also the 10000$ mark and I hope if will do so.

and now that the segwitx2 fork is going to be done, a lot of people who were holding bitcoincash will sell their coins in order to buy more bitcoin, only to receive those segwitx2 coins for free, just like all those people did before with bitcoin gold , and of course, with bitcoin cash.
I am happy to see that it is going to be done by today, but it is all like a surprise and i dont even know how it si going to happen, but i only know that bitcoin will be more than $8200 by today, and bitcoin cash will drop a lot because of this situation.

Yes, it's the well expected dump that came along with the BCH pump. I'm honestly surprised it took this long for BCH to drop back to sub 1000, I thought that would be hit within 2 days of the ath. Doesn't really matter anymore though. All that matters is the fact that BTC is going up while BCH is going down; people's faith in bitcoin has been (somewhat) restored and we can live as we used to before this whole fork dilemma went down.

What can we expect for bitcoin cash? This coin is for Hype purposes and people are just seeing this as an normal alt while BTC is their top pick among those and since the price of btc is climbing up again expect that the bitcoin cash holders are exchanging their coins to stake with BTC and see whats happening now we can actually see that BTC is almost climbing at 8000$ or maybe it will be reached earlier soon.

Just clearly already at now, the bottom line ie indeed Bitcoin is really very stronger than BitcoinCash and is more widely supported by many people. And it looks like Bitcoin will continuesly to be in the top position until whenever time. It seems some of the efforts I've heard that BitcoinCash aims to shifted Bitcoin.. that's fruitless, proving the fact that Bitcoin remain stronger and invincible.

There is renewed optimism on further Bitcoin hard-forks, which will result in free money to Bitcoin holders. That is why people seem to be piling up back into Bitcoin. Once reality sets in about high fees and confirmation times, Bitcoin Cash could start trending again.

$892 on your chart but I checked it again at this moment. Bitcoin cash is marked with a red but it's price is now $1,036 which makes it resistant against bitcoin. However the 7.93% increase of bitcoin is a big thing to all of us and  though the market is balanced today, there are alt coins that are on red too and some are all in together at green with bitcoin. We will definitely going to see bitcoin at $8,000.

Everyone will see that bitcoin reach another record ! I'm really glad that I knew bitcoin and keep invest on it until now ( If only I can knew bitcoin earlier )
Sometimes I feel sorry for my friend who did not or want to invest although I've told them that bitcoin always make a green progress and now when they want to invest, bitcoin value already too expensive

some people still hesitated to get into it because the price already pumped from $1000 to $7000.
they did not reliaze that Bitcoin has a lot of room to grow and bright future.
even though the price a pumped this high,the demand itself will not decrease at all.
other than that some people still thought that Bitcoin Cash has a future to compete with Bitcoin,
to be honest if we're understand how it works and what is the real origin of this coin,
we should understand what will it be in the future.
in my opinion at best Bitcoin Cash will be the next Ethereum,
it will go higher when Bitcoin price is declining and it will go down when Bitcoin price is pumping.
just looked at it right now,a few days ago BCH pumped so hard after Bitcoin news about cancelation of segwit2x.
many people believe it will replace Bitcoin because of the fork canceled,but it's not.
BCH pumped due to cancelation and many people believe with that news Bitcoin will start to grow.
that is why the whales need a cash to pump the price,
and here we are.

a while ago Bitcoin is a gold and Litecoin is a silver,
afterward Bitcoin still remain as a gold and Ethereum as a silver,
and then right now ?

For me it doesnt matter because i have yet to invest in bch even though it is just not that i realized how these forks works. It was hyped and it gave chances to traders who just bought small amount.

Both prices are driven by speculations and it's normal to have fluctuations. But I must admit I like what is happening with Bitcoin Cash after the last week attack against Bitcoin. The attack cost me a lot of overpaid fees and nerves.

Wait...  Didn't Bcash go thru a contentious hard fork of its own?  It's not being talked about a lot in the forum but on Twitter you got guys like Whalepanda laughing their asses off calling the fork 'Bcash Clashic'.  Lol.  I wonder how that came about.  It's hilarious.

And it would be funny if iamTom123 makes a meme of Roger Ver with this:

https://i.imgur.com/eW1mdvP.png

There was a hard fork with some minor grumbling about implementation details, but nobody continued to mine on the old rule set.  So the rules forked, but the chain didn't.  Exactly how things should have been done all along.  But we have too many vested interests trying to divide and conquer this community, and too many gullible sheep who buy into it.

sometimes i feel like bitcoin market is becoming too predictable!
the bitcoin cash pump was clearly planned ahead and a lot accumulation went into it before the pump started, you can even see it on the charts! then the hashrate manipulation started. and it was not just the BCH price+difficulty but also the bitcoin higher difficulty and leaving the chain to make everything messed up with the 170K transactions in mempool.

the dump part was also clear as day!
all the altcoins that get pumped WILL get dumped, there is no escaping that. everyone apart from newbie bag holders have never bought any altcoin to keep. they buy them to dump for profit.

I don't even think that bitcoin cash can climb up over the top. They can't even beat ethereum while having an outrageous demand last week, investors only want to get profit from it and not completely use to as for everyday transaction. There is so much more to a coin than coin for investment purpose, bitcoin is being widely used for different transaction and that is why bitcoin dominated the cryptoworld.

The past few days really costed a lot of overpaid fees, but it was worthwhile and very profitable. Anyone who joined the current action in bch and held it from the start made a nice profit. Also those who rebuy bitcoin when it had gone down to below 6500$ profitted nicely too. I'm sorry for those who bought at BCH peak though they surely have lost some money now. Still, for me it is nice because it made me a good sum of profit. IMO everything is not back to normal yet. Just wait there will be more action.

Where have you been bro? Segwit2x has been suspended indefinitely and I would rather even say it has been cancelled. As far as I am concerned, that is not what is making the market soar right now. Bitcoin cash pump was a prank and that is all there is to it. Most people have realised that already, after they have been dumped on at $2700 and most people holding right now are just some angry traders hoping and wishing they can still recover their losses. Bitcoin is always going to increase anyway as the adoption keeps getting stronger and people start realizing that no coin can replace it.

BCH & BTC both up overnight, money from various alts being pumped into both by the looks of it.

Bitcoin doing some slight correction, which is fine. Bcash getting pumped again.
However the massive Bcash buy wall on finex, probably set by Ver, disappeared.
This weekend will be extremely interesting again. If we should close green at actual levels, around $7700, we will have a bullish engulfing in the weekly chart! I mean look at that size of this candle!! That's what I call big!

You think this will be another Bcash pump weekend?

Lets start an engulfing war !

Speculators are still playing with bitcoin cash, that is what it’s happening, but it’s kind of obvious those prices cannot be maintained in the long run and at some point the price will be were it was just a few weeks ago, and when it happens some will have incredible profits, mostly miners, and those with insider information and the majority will lose a fortune which are never going to recover.

Bitcoin Cash was pumped after the cancellation of Segwit2x when the investors of BCH used the opportunity in the best possible way, pumping it to new limits and catching everyone's eye. At, one instance people were so attracted that they started talking Bitcoin Cash crossing Bitcoin also. But all the myths and pumping cannot last long and eventually Bitcoin Cash is coming down and Bitcoin is going up again as expected.

Oh...  So everything's good then.  But what's the difference between the old rule set and the new one?  I heard that it had something to do with the EDA, not sure.

till now bitcoincash earn and stable more than 1000$ so it may be best altcoins (better than ETH) but can’t be like bitcoin

Bitcoin cash be able to rise again, set $1000 as the new level and be able to stand on $1300 right now, pretty impressive.
After a big pump, everyone thought BCH will get dumped hardly, but the fact it's survive :D
At least we have 2 big coins on this market, people are free to choose the best coin to transact across the globe or just use it for trading. Maybe 8 MB blocksize really offers something, but bitcoin still be able to afford so many transactions with segwit nodes.

A really better dose! It is not something that is not expected. How will someone wake up just one day and decided to manipulate the market and some traders ended up falling for it. Now that they have been tricked by Ver, they are now crying wolf. That was a huge dump from $2700 and I am sure Roger had all that plans from the onset.

I hope everyone has learnt their lessons that as long as it is not Bitcoin, it can never be Bitcoin even though they add whatever name they want to add to its front.

Yes, bitcoincash now has stop rising, and the rising last time is just a bubble and when its popped, a lot of traders suffered big lost, a lot of people believe that bitcoincash still can become big, and I am not include in that group, I am happier to see bitcoin up and knocked down bch

_Kudos, sir.

But I think this wont be the last BCH pump

Bitcoin Cash will not boom too long,as many said it just over hype thats why price before was too pump.  This is the reasons why I dont invest in bch if you invest you will lose. It cannot beat bitcoin it is still the best investment.

just like the rest of the altcoins which are thousands of them, none of them have to be replacing bitcoin in order to be a profitable investment. the pumps make them profitable and as long as you can detect them and invest before the pump not after it, you will be making a lot of profit.
in case of bitcoin cash it was pumped big time, it even reached 0.5BTC at some point in some exchanges but as you can see it got dumped hard but i am honestly surprised about how it is keeping the price up above $1100 though.

I wasn't even sure why bitcoin cash was up so much around a week ago, it just seeme really abnormal for a coin which is essentially just a fork of bitcoin to get to nearly half of bitcoin's value, without any major implementation in actual business transactions. Now that that short term pump is out of the way, bitcoin has obviously recovered and made a new all time high while BCH is now making not much news.

These two coins are still going much in opposite directions of each other. And i think we'll see that continue to be the case.

I already know that bitcoin cash will be down and now we can see bitcoin cash has been down after a big pump, bitcoin is always have number one and it is a achievement of bitcoin and now once again bitcoin prove that it is one and only first crypto currency and always it will be remain in number 1st.   

Even with the great number of FUDs during the BCH pump, I don't think that many have "lost" their faith for bitcoin. Many just wanted to profit from the incoming pump but a lot still don't believe in BCH and remain to believe in bitcoin. There were a lot bandwagoners who rode along with BCH wagon back then but most of the bitcoin users I believe are still loyal to bitcoin and would choose to keep their investment there.

OH! The bubble of BCH already bursts, Will it recover? Probably NO. BCH will possibly dip to it's crashing price, no wonder for that. The controversies tagged BCH and also the members who worship BCH and throw shades at BTC is another factor why BCH's reputation is bad and already damaged. Add currently the news that BCH coins can be retrieved with the help of miners, have you heard that?. Such a bad moment for BCH but that's how karma works.

Investors are now going back to BTC, which means that large amount of money flowed on BCH is now slowly flowing in BTC. Honestly speaking, I don't really see BCH to recover from this mess. I don't know if the Big whales who pumped BCH will try again to manipulate it. Anyway, I am happy that Bitcoin is on uptrend movement! Let's have $10K Christmas Holiday. :D

We already know that this is coming, just a matter of time before those manipulators really put a hard dump on BCH. As of the latest BTC is going to $8300 which BCH trying to stay afloat the $1000 mark. Yes, investors are going back and the flow of cash is continuing, what a comeback of BTC and its kicking BCH to the nuts. LOL.

And do they really think that such attempt on the BTC market can be successful? BCH is for the greedy and few privilege individual who's aim is not to only disrupt the ecosystem but creating a lot of panic but to make them rich as possible by manipulating the price.

Its because that's its purpose. These bitcoin clones are created for the sake of pumping and dumping purposes so its nothing unusual (for me). To add on, I think people who've watched the market knows that if theres an abnormal price hike there will be a dump after and its definitely doesn't mean that it'll be the "new future" or something exaggeratedly similar. Some people are just too dumb to fall for those hype's.

There's nothing concrete but as long as the whales are profiting from this pumping and dumpings schemes there will be more to come. And that also applies on BCH

It has always been a shitcoin all along and whereas some people decided to keep a blind eye to that and still went all in hoping for some really good deed for them in BCH as the coin as claimed is replacing bitcoin (that really got me laughing), then I would not bat a lid to feel sorry for them.

Ver will obviously want to try to test the market again and I am really trying to see what he is going to have to say this time around as traders will so much dump their coin pretty fast.

According to Coinmarketcap BCH is up by 16% in last 24 hours with price something a little less then 1500$,but I see it was even higher few hours ago.I was thinking that after that pump price is going under 1000$ but Roger and his team do not surrender so easily.Luckily bitcoin is recovered and it is above 8000$ almost all time,and by this is proven that it can not be easily removed from the throne.

What you think about reason BCH price is pretty high these days,is ordinary people buy BCH or Roger is playing some background games?

I am sure that after many people lost their money after a rollback BCH buy it will be much less willing. Roger will try to destabilize the situation but he will not succeed. I will never abandon bitcoin for altcoins. All these coins can only serve bitcoin and they can not exist independently. So the price of bitcoin is always reflected in the price of altcoins.

That is very much expected and I really do not see how BCH want to keep pulling their stunts with the manipulations.

The only reason why it is staying afloat $1000 is just because a lot of trader fell for it when it was above $2000 before the huge dump was done on them and then they are just waiting if there can still be an opportunity for them to cash out so they can leave Roger Ver shitcoin in his hands.

I do not why people believed that nonsense, it was obvious that was never going to happen those that support bitcoin cash really believed they could surpass all the work that has being going on in bitcoin for 10 years in a matter of days, if they did that they just deceived themselves.

Stabilized growth is taking place with bitcoin cash and on the other hand bitcoin seems to be peaking to reach new ath. Probably we've got chances of reaching $10000 even before the year end. Another controversy going on is the bitcoin diamond fork which has been marked as futures, but some stated that few exchanges have already listed into trading.

It was known that bitcoin would conquer it's place. The hike of BCH was due to its hard fork has to happen in the beginning week of November. So here lucky are those who bought bitcoins during this hard fork.  Now their wallets should be with good profits. 

Bitcoin did tremendous during the BCH pump. It was definitely the plan by BCH pumpers to steal attention from Bitcoin by a massive pump and to therefore decrease Bitcoin's value. But the honeybadger did not give a damn.
It just ignored this dumb altcoin who pretends to be the real one and allegedly fulfills Sathoshi's vision. LOL
BTC was so strong and bounced immediately 2 days ago when we were down to 7870. And now it's grinding up and makes new ATHs. Impressive!
Bitcoin's a powerhouse during these times!

It really does not have any purpose and every reasonable investor knows that already. No matter what Roger tries to do, to make himself stay relevant, he will end up losing at the end of the day. Sure, he has all the resources to do what he is doing presently, which I am not surprised, but I believe people who fell for his trap are already getting wiser not to fall for it again.

Are you telling me that these two are directly proportionate with each other in that when one is high, the other is low? Well, you may say so. But you have to be careful with this supposition. Because you cannot really predict a happening just basing on one circumstance. You have to at least have with you a data that can support your argument; otherwise, you never truly earn when you have a wrong understanding on these matters.

People are gullible they are always thinking that this time it is going to be different and things like that when anyone that takes the time to study the history of economic bubbles knows this is the end result, bitcoin in fact is not immune to this, the 2013 crash was a bubble a well.

The whole Universe is an inflationary bubble. Who cares ?

The fact is that Bitcoin users earned not only what they bought at that time cheaper Bitcoin, but also on the fact that they got a practical double, even at a lower price, but with a similar amount. Bitcoin cash Not expensive, but still brought money.

WHomever thought the Bitcoin Cashening was going to happen (okay that's not really a word but I don't know the Bitcoin Cash equivalent of Ethereum's flippening) is sorely mistaken. Everyone in that camp was going bonkers when Bitcoin Cash hit 1.5k but guess what happened next? Bitcoin broke 10k and is now 11k, and can go even higher.

Bitcoin Cash is way overvalued at 1.5k. So much politics and money pumped into it and they can barely make 15% of Bitcoin value. They must be so sore and angry right now.

It seems to me that bitcoin is cash not yet said its last word. The Chinese are massively buying bch and that means they are getting ready to make good money on the next rise in price. For me is not clear so far what bitcoin will be the primary. All that needs to be implemented in btc we see how it works well in bch. An urgent need to take action.

This seems bitcoin cash it not that stabilized with its pump and dump price. This means that bitcoin is still the best than bitcoin cash. Bitcoin cash will eventually down so bitcoin is up still and continue to rise.

i don't ever think that bch has enough ability to replace btc or be compare to it or ever come in comparison to it but think no one can deny its potential and i think it has a huge potential and which it has proven in the price and we have seen the rise in the price this year. i think being a clone of btc i think it will rise more as btc rises and will be worth good in the future.

There is no doubt that community support for bitcoin is really high so bitcoin cash can't beat it but we can make so much money during pump & dump schemes bitcoin cash will have during temporary shift of miners between bitcoin cash and bitcoin.

Many have made million of dollar during last pump in bitcoin cash's price from $300 to over $2k.

Bitcoin is best for long term while bitcoin cash is good to play with for quick profit.

people always trying to trade altcoin for making money but it does not mean that any other altcoin will replace bitcoin. Bitcoin is the fundamental currency and it will remain as number one for ever. Bitcoin is become popular continuously, in future we can expect that people will most use bitcoin for online business and shopping must like fiat currency.

Just trust the process and development of bitcoin even if there's a sudden price crash happen on it because is like go up and go down type of trading investments which is more of the time going up and probably will stay as the number 1 coin here in the cryptocurrency for a long period of time, a very long period of time.

I have the same sentiments toward bitcoin cash as overrated also most coins that is made through forking. This is simplified as a scapegoat for having no choices against the profitability of bitcoin but can’t afford having the price is in at highest position. I’m speaking not against to ones belief on one coin but as enthusiast in bitcoin currency. I will always be good with altcoin that was made with efforts.