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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: HungryTigerGrouchyCrotch on November 19, 2017, 03:47:41 PM



Title: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: HungryTigerGrouchyCrotch on November 19, 2017, 03:47:41 PM
 :o

Is it just me or does it seem like every time the price of BTC rises, casinos start cutting back bonuses BUT expecting you to deposit the same amount of BTC to even meet the requirement to receive a bonus?

I mean... COME ON...

Bonuses come with a what... 45-60x wagering requirement that I would bet ;) 90% of those who are playing with one NEVER meet to even be able to cashout

I have dropped a couple of casinos recently just because it pisses me off so much that they are such douches to those that basically donate money to play at their site...

What casinos do you all play at that you feel give a fair deposit to bonus ratio based on the amount/cost you have to deposit to receive them in comparison to what the bonus is... ex: 0.025 a week to get 10 free spins on a shitty slot game with a 45x wagering requirement to be eligible to cash out winnings and a max cash out of...


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: Wendigo on November 19, 2017, 04:18:53 PM
Fiat casinos. You could even get free drinks while you are having fun  ;D


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: 100bitcoin on November 19, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
Casinos are to test your luck. Not for free spins or bonus.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: Aamir1 on November 19, 2017, 06:29:18 PM
You have your options. You choose what you want to bear. There are casinos with no deposit bonus which has no wagering requirements, and there are casinos with deposit bonuses which require wagering. So now it is up to you if what you want. If you want to get bonuses, you will need to bear their rules, and if you leave the bonuses, you are free from the wagering rules. So you should choose yourself what you want, and gamble with no issues then.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: marlboroza on November 19, 2017, 06:44:41 PM
Who said casino has to give you anything?
I don't use bonus because of high wagering requirement and I actually don't care if casino is or isn't offering bonus.

There are casinos with no deposit bonus which has no wagering requirements
Can you please share with us which casino has bonus without wagering requirements?


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: desmodiAN on November 20, 2017, 10:10:38 AM
yap any bonus that can be cashed out without wagering? comeon. in which world do you live?


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: s0lidus on November 20, 2017, 11:26:53 AM
I wouldn't rely on bonusses, as most and maybe all have certain requirements such as 50x wager or whatever.
Just try their games with faucets, deposit small amounts what you can afford to gamble and pull out when you're on profit without having to fulfill all kind of crazy requirements. The last part about pulling out on profit, however, can be very difficult. Once we start winning we (most of us) don't know when to quit and sadly many people end up blaming the casinos instead of theirselves :P


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: MinerHQ on November 21, 2017, 01:53:30 AM
:o
Bonuses come with a what... 45-60x wagering requirement that I would bet ;) 90% of those who are playing with one NEVER meet to even be able to cashout


All casinos are doing a business and they want to make as much as profit from this business not doing any charity work to distribute free money to gamblers. Those bonus promotions are traps for new gamblers to deposit money and try their luck. Before meeting the wagering requirements most of the gamblers will lose their bankroll. If you're very lucky then only you may meet these wagering requirements.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: HungryTigerGrouchyCrotch on November 21, 2017, 07:15:36 AM
Who said casino has to give you anything?
I don't use bonus because of high wagering requirement and I actually don't care if casino is or isn't offering bonus.

There are casinos with no deposit bonus which has no wagering requirements
Can you please share with us which casino has bonus without wagering requirements?
luckystar.io has some from time to time :)


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: HungryTigerGrouchyCrotch on November 21, 2017, 07:18:11 AM
yap any bonus that can be cashed out without wagering? comeon. in which world do you live?

Betchain and 4Grinz use to do 10% cashback no wagering requirements. Luckystar.io has sent one that I can recall to new customers through newsletter but no one expects that... and if they do... Good luck :)


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: HungryTigerGrouchyCrotch on November 21, 2017, 07:21:48 AM
I wouldn't rely on bonusses, as most and maybe all have certain requirements such as 50x wager or whatever.
Just try their games with faucets, deposit small amounts what you can afford to gamble and pull out when you're on profit without having to fulfill all kind of crazy requirements. The last part about pulling out on profit, however, can be very difficult. Once we start winning we (most of us) don't know when to quit and sadly many people end up blaming the casinos instead of theirselves :P

I don't rely on bonuses I just think they are a nice gesture after losing at a casino LOL I'm not saying casinos have to... I am fully aware of how bonuses work... I just think why advertise something you can't deliver on? Or if you are going to change it up... let people know... or just be nice and make someone's day by throwing them a couple free spins so they can pupe dream of winning and then deposit there again LOL


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: NeuroticFish on November 21, 2017, 07:09:01 PM
I guess that a couple of rounds with faucet money are okay as long as you are paying customer.
But you know, nothing is for free. Some casinos have really nice bonuses for the regulars, but not that great if the bets are too small, too few.
Casinos are fun for money but many don't realize that or want to abuse that, making some of the casinos lower the bonuses or double-triple check everything. And the continuous rise of Bitcoin price seems to make the things worse.

First PD promotions allowed instant withdrawal of the winnings, later it became next to impossible.
Bitsler checks carefully for faucet abusers.
I remember some other promotions here and there where you could win a few satoshi, but again, nearly impossible to withdraw quick.
And after all it's normal, they want to make people play in their casinos, not to get free money.

I guess that you should try to play with smaller amounts to keep the fun running longer. When Bitcoin price will stabilize the things should get back to normal.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: leex1528 on November 21, 2017, 07:35:07 PM
You are sort of missing the point.  Just because Bitcoin value rises, doesn't mean they get more Bitcoins, they still have the same amount of coins and giving away promos/bonuses probably don't make sense for them because they have the potential to lose a lot of money on that.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: erkans on November 21, 2017, 08:11:23 PM
as long as they pay me I'm happy ::)


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: adaseb on November 21, 2017, 09:53:48 PM
Look casinos are in the business of making money.

That free deposit we all know is a promo to get people to try out the site with more leverage than their initial deposit.

Some people lose their bonus and deposit while others maybe get lucky and win some BTC.

This threads remind me of the other threads were people are complaining that you can't "Make free BTC from faucets anymore".


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: serjent05 on November 21, 2017, 10:01:03 PM
I had been playing in fortunejack for a while, probably I one among thise 10% OP is saying that can be able to meet the wagering requirement to be able to withdraw and/or book a profit from the bonuses the site is giving. So from my point of view, I do not mind at all.  Anyway as what the early reply said, you have an option to claim it or not.  It is a promotional stuff and of course it is the sites interest to at least make sure they can protect their own bankroll in order for the site to run longer and if possible take more profit.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: Indrawan77 on November 22, 2017, 12:21:23 AM
That is quite normal because the currency they used is bitcoin, so to keep the casino fund secure they need to cut off the bonus, and don't expect the bonus, the wagering sometimes just insane and you will never win anything, just play normally, you will more enjoy gambling without being hunted by the wagering


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: nicksarkastaton on November 22, 2017, 01:03:09 AM
What is the best (most honest) site with reviews of crypto-casinos?


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: BTCevo on November 22, 2017, 08:35:16 AM
Look casinos are in the business of making money.

That free deposit we all know is a promo to get people to try out the site with more leverage than their initial deposit.

Some people lose their bonus and deposit while others maybe get lucky and win some BTC.

This threads remind me of the other threads were people are complaining that you can't "Make free BTC from faucets anymore".

Yes that is true, that is why I never use any of deposit bonus or any bonus that they applied on their site since they always put huge amount of wagering requirement which is hard to achieve, only with some luck you might achieve that requirement. But without take any bonus you take control on your balance so you still can withdraw some of your balance if you are thinking that it is on losing track


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: mOgliE on November 22, 2017, 01:57:05 PM
Fiat casinos have a house edge 5 times more important than online casino.
And most of them have 0 bonuses.
Appart from free drinks made to get you drunk and bet more in a more stupid way.

So no I don't think that btc casino are stingy. They're legit cool sites letting you have fun while taking a very small share of the profit.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: LuanX3 on November 22, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
You underestimated it, I don't think 90% of people lose to that 40-45x wagering requirement, it is more likely that 97% or more have lost before they reach the 40x or 45x wagering requirement. Generally, I don't think bonuses are worth it anyway, so I don't really care about them, but I would say it is good for other people that are just enjoying the games. It's like more money for your entertainment. It's added risk, so there is added return though.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: piloder on November 22, 2017, 05:44:14 PM
First : Never hope that you will be able to cashout all those free bonuses you will get from casino because all of the casino have hard to reach wagering requirement.

Second : Bonuses and free spins are like ads to attract new investors and lure them to deposit in the casino and you have to be extremely lucky to be able to cash it out.

Third : I have never seen any casino that allows you to cashout your bonus just like normal balance.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: stevrev on November 22, 2017, 06:35:29 PM
I hear what you're saying, but it's important to remember that casinos exist for one purpose and that is to make money. there are a few reputable places out there, but a vast majority are looking for suckers who are willing to give their money away.


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: Uses on November 22, 2017, 06:37:24 PM
There's still a couple good ones out there with decent bonuses and signup bonuses. Cloudbet matches your initial deposit up to 5BTC I think. Which sites are you using right now?


Title: Re: Anyone else frustrated with BTC casinos being stingy as F&*#
Post by: BlockEye on November 23, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
There's still a couple good ones out there with decent bonuses and signup bonuses. Cloudbet matches your initial deposit up to 5BTC I think. Which sites are you using right now?

But you must have 800 points(not accurate but close) to claim your sign up bonus. This is the same on wagering x times to claim bonus they just used points so that it will not look that hard to get. I only have 200points on cloudbet even though I wager almost 1BTC while my sign up bonus waiting was 0.01BTC only. That time I realized that I fucked up and stop playing just to claim bonus.  :D