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Title: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: usam_coiner on November 19, 2017, 04:37:33 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: cellard on November 19, 2017, 04:49:48 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: soham on November 19, 2017, 04:55:10 PM
Bitcoin is definitely a currency and it will remain the same. However, the outlook of the people associated with bitcoin has changed from being a currency to a profit generator. But I don't blame anyone for that. Because the investors are the asset of bitcoin who believes in it and due to the increasing interest from investors worldwide, bitcoin price is touching the sky every single day.

I am also an investors of bitcoin. So I use it as an investment asset instead of a currency. I don't spend my bitcoins for buying something. My salary is there to take care of such expenditure. But bitcoin has opened up a new world of investment which can generate profits which no other real-world investment can do. So bitcoin is a pure investment for me.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: 50ouncebrew on November 19, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
Bitcoin is definitely a currency and it will remain the same. However, the outlook of the people associated with bitcoin has changed from being a currency to a profit generator. But I don't blame anyone for that. Because the investors are the asset of bitcoin who believes in it and due to the increasing interest from investors worldwide, bitcoin price is touching the sky every single day.

I am also an investors of bitcoin. So I use it as an investment asset instead of a currency. I don't spend my bitcoins for buying something. My salary is there to take care of such expenditure. But bitcoin has opened up a new world of investment which can generate profits which no other real-world investment can do. So bitcoin is a pure investment for me.

I honestly think the only reason they are saying it is an investment or store of value right now is because the technology isn't developed enough to the point that transactions will be essentially free because the devs need to implement Lightning Network and stuff and then they will say "oh, BTC is back to being a currency again!". LOL

Just admit it, the other coins available are catching up to the technology of Bitcoin and there is not enough development which is why more people are considering BTC as a investment instead of a currency, which is really  shame because it is supposed to be a currency first and value second just like gold and instead it is the opposite.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: aeternus on November 19, 2017, 06:07:39 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
Right now bitcoin is used mostly as an investment, while bitcoin was created to be a currency we cannot make people use bitcoin as we want, that is the whole point of bitcoin to have a currency that you own completely and can use as you fell like it, so if people want to use it as an investment let them.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: wantjokull on November 19, 2017, 06:24:44 PM
Yeah may be it’s our greed that is restricting the proper use of the bitcoin in first place. Whatever we need is to gain more money out of it and we don’t even look forward to development that is needed by the blockchain technology or bitcoin itself. If this continues then at the final conclusion it may become just store value or more or less just asset and nothing else. The asset which is traded in stocks for money pot.

May be we are also not wrong after all because bitcoin is getting slower in the transactions as we are going through the time and increased network difficulty. So why would anyone want currency like that. May be it will take time to adopt to faster version then we can try it out as currency.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Fatunad on November 19, 2017, 06:59:10 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
If we do tried out to read up again the whitepaper of bitcoin then we would really able to see that bitcoin is created for the sole of innovative new way payment system and investment mode is just a plus which lots of people do really treat it special because of the benefits that it gives to humankind. Currency mode or investment mode no matter which way we do treat it we should be thankful that it has being created but i do strongly believe that most people do see about bitcoin is on investment side because btc does really give huge profits overtime thats why it becomes popular.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: TheAndy500 on November 19, 2017, 07:11:49 PM
But thanks to that people buying it for trade or even to hold bitcoin could increase his price and population around the world, so it is worth to do that.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 19, 2017, 11:00:28 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

That's the fact, bitcoin has been used before as currency and we all know where it all started and on where it became popular. But today bitcoin has been known as the best investment, people mostly think that if we'll buy bitcoin and just wait for it to increase, you'll earn. When people talks about bitcoin the words that we are earning is "investment" and not currency.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: namjar on November 19, 2017, 11:20:27 PM
People are only seeing bitcoin as a way to make quick profit, and there is nothing with that. Now that there are altcoins in the market, a lot of people are thinking about that all those altcoins could become the new bitcoin, and this is why most of those people try to invest on those altcoins that are very cheap, because they think that they will be rich in a few months from now, maybe years, but they want it as soon as possible.
Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, not a way to earn quick money , and people should understand that before investing money.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: _Dawid_ on November 19, 2017, 11:20:59 PM
"Investment mode" of btc is in my opinion very unlikely case for us. Mainly because everyone here want to use bitcoin as a payment medium but in the same time we want to have a golden investment... It can't be related, because currently when people invest in bitcoin nobody will buy anything because after few days he will be able to buy not 1 smartphone but 2 or even more. And it is a circle, when we add here huge fees on bitcoin we have very bad case...


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: HabBear on November 20, 2017, 03:48:42 AM
Currency mode is best for users because as the value increases the spending power increases. You can buy more with less Bitcoin each and every day (or on average).

BUT, the catch 22 or double edge sword impact is that if the value keeps going up I (or anyone else) is incentivized to hold their Bitcoin, because...tomorrow it will be worth more than to day.

So the very nature of Bitcoin's success will lead it more and more to becoming an investment asset, and not a currency.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: kaya11 on November 20, 2017, 05:14:18 AM
Keep in mind that it was made for the easiness in every transaction all over the world but do not forget in business related with money, there will always be buyers and sellers who wants to make profits and you can't do thing about it. So go with the flow and enjoy your stay here, learn from your experience and if possible earn too.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: usam_coiner on November 20, 2017, 02:45:17 PM
Keep in mind that it was made for the easiness in every transaction all over the world but do not forget in business related with money, there will always be buyers and sellers who wants to make profits and you can't do thing about it. So go with the flow and enjoy your stay here, learn from your experience and if possible earn too.
yeah you are absolutely right but the main function of bitcoin was to use it as alternate of flat currency so people are mostly relying on its investment mode my point is if we use it in place of flat that will help alot to the people and it will help bitcoin to gain more popularity as well as acceptance level as amazon did best an now more stores will accept bitcoin also.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: onrise on November 20, 2017, 02:50:10 PM
Keep in mind that it was made for the easiness in every transaction all over the world but do not forget in business related with money, there will always be buyers and sellers who wants to make profits and you can't do thing about it. So go with the flow and enjoy your stay here, learn from your experience and if possible earn too.

Going with the flow is the important thing because for what it used to meant may not be the case in future. And if you are still stuck with that than you are only losing out the opportunity to earn and invest in such profitable returns which you can get in  short span of time.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: miyaka26 on November 20, 2017, 04:08:17 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
Before btc reach the state of being a currency mode, the community must respond to the problem of it particularly to the scalability and micro transactions, deny it or not it is unproductive to send a cents of dollar to someone that needs to pay a transaction fee of 2 dollars right? you may think the solution is to set the fee to 1 sat, well expect the confirmations for a week or two. Being in the state of currency mode means convince over small transaction. without a prior upgrades to the network like the Lightning Network(which is under development) that is quite not possible.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: merchantofzeny on November 20, 2017, 07:54:11 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.

This is how I tend to use it. I only convert to fiat what I needed to use and try to keep the rest for holding. I still find it a bit silly to use it to buy stuff considering how the price can still rise. Maybe that would change once we've defeated gold and fiat, or at least bitcoin comes to their level of use. I mean, how many people here get their salary in bitcoins?


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: BitSat on November 20, 2017, 08:11:29 PM
Keep in mind that it was made for the easiness in every transaction all over the world but do not forget in business related with money, there will always be buyers and sellers who wants to make profits and you can't do thing about it. So go with the flow and enjoy your stay here, learn from your experience and if possible earn too.
yeah you are absolutely right but the main function of bitcoin was to use it as alternate of flat currency so people are mostly relying on its investment mode my point is if we use it in place of flat that will help alot to the people and it will help bitcoin to gain more popularity as well as acceptance level as amazon did best an now more stores will accept bitcoin also.
Currently its using by many peoples for many methods is working good for this because as its spreading its going to rise and we are going to more stable very few peoples storing this most are using and this is good part of bitcoin very few peoples want to store this for long term


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: MiF on November 20, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.

This is how I tend to use it. I only convert to fiat what I needed to use and try to keep the rest for holding. I still find it a bit silly to use it to buy stuff considering how the price can still rise. Maybe that would change once we've defeated gold and fiat, or at least bitcoin comes to their level of use. I mean, how many people here get their salary in bitcoins?

That's true and it's really applicable to me right now mate, the proof is their already so for me it's the best currency ever. I am not converting that bitcoin just for what I need, but also for my personal expenses like entertainment and other miscellaneous budgets. Although of it's volatility it doesn't mean we will have to panic, we can still spend and don't worry of possible crash because fluctuations will normally happen specially bitcoin now become more popular.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: slackcryptoz on November 20, 2017, 08:27:04 PM
Keep in mind that it was made for the easiness in every transaction all over the world but do not forget in business related with money, there will always be buyers and sellers who wants to make profits and you can't do thing about it. So go with the flow and enjoy your stay here, learn from your experience and if possible earn too.
yeah you are absolutely right but the main function of bitcoin was to use it as alternate of flat currency so people are mostly relying on its investment mode my point is if we use it in place of flat that will help alot to the people and it will help bitcoin to gain more popularity as well as acceptance level as amazon did best an now more stores will accept bitcoin also.
Currently its using by many peoples for many methods is working good for this because as its spreading its going to rise and we are going to more stable very few peoples storing this most are using and this is good part of bitcoin very few peoples want to store this for long term
Though it has been into multiple usage, the preferences were found much among the common man as an investment asset. Little people who already have a good backing of bitcoin use it for shopping and other needs. In my personal opinion now being a currency and investment is a must for growth, but the usage as investment is found more than required.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Ingoats on November 20, 2017, 09:18:29 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
I think investment mode or using bitcoin as an investment is better. Investing into it will give you Bitcoin and huge profit. So a user will be an investor at the same time. Since a user will have a Bitcoin as an investment, he/she will also be able to use it as a currency than just using it only as a currency that won't lead to huge profit.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: susila_bai on November 20, 2017, 09:26:25 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
It cannot be currency due to low supply which is good for investment, if it got declared as currency then think who are going to make it currency how will they control it.  So it is very good investment option


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: goldade on November 20, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
Right now bitcoin is used mostly as an investment, while bitcoin was created to be a currency we cannot make people use bitcoin as we want, that is the whole point of bitcoin to have a currency that you own completely and can use as you fell like it, so if people want to use it as an investment let them.

Yes,  most people make use of bitcoin seeing it only as a means of investment but then that doesn't change the fact bitcoin can is also a currency that should be used for day to day tramsactions. Though, majority use bitcoins for investment, there are still a few who use it as a currency.

But on careful examination, we realize that the service of bitcoins both as a currency and as a means of investment is one the advantages of bitcoin


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: szpalata on November 20, 2017, 10:41:27 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
It cannot be currency due to low supply which is good for investment, if it got declared as currency then think who are going to make it currency how will they control it.  So it is very good investment option

It's a currency that can't be controlled or we wouldn't allow it to be controlled that's why it is decentralized and i don't think its in little supply if we consider spending them in bits of satoshis as  opposed to spending them in whole BTC's


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: krishnapramod on November 21, 2017, 07:11:57 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

I wouldn't call it a trend, but rather a phase where Bitcoin's secondary function, as a store of value is retaining its purchasing power into the future for its primary function, as a medium of exchange.

Mainstream Bitcoin adoption wouldn't happen without merchants. Solutions like LN would speed up this process, but ultimately a transition from a community of hodlers into a dominant Bitcoin economy would depend on coming up with applications/startups that would not only motivate non-bitcoin users, but also hodlers to buy and spend Bitcoin and merchants to easily integrate Bitcoin as a payment option. A big Bitcoin marketplace, POS apps, incentivizing/rewarding use of Bitcoin.

Not about which one is best, Bitcoin's utility as a decentralized medium of exchange and its scarcity, store of value both are equally important in determining the long-term potential of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: fiulpro on November 21, 2017, 07:34:07 AM
It wasn't made to be used as a currency is what I think.. if that was the case then for sure developers would have made it centralized and thats.. Everyone knows it isn't..also!!!
I think its made to target stock market not the currency one...we already do have a lots of currencies in..the world and I don't think we do need anymore..it was created to revolutionize the idea of cryptocurrency market.. to get people out of paper money and to.. do investment in something other than gold or stocks...
Also.. its not fixed and centralized and they are perquisites of being labelled as a currency. :)


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Wexnident on November 21, 2017, 07:43:16 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
Using bitcoin is better in my opinion since bitcoin is nit yet legal to most of the countries. It is a good source of income since the profit is huge. Its market value is continuously increasing and getting more exoensive which gives its users profit. And if they would want to use it as a currency they may use a small amount of their investment .


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: wizmo on November 21, 2017, 07:55:18 AM
People are mainly using bitcoin as an investment than currency because it's still in it's early stages if all bitcoins will be mined and countries around the world start legalizing it then we can see the price of it much higher than now. It will be difficult to use bitcoin as currency because of transaction fees but it will be solved sooner or later.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: fiulpro on November 21, 2017, 08:29:04 AM
I think even for now or even for future its the best that bitcoins be used for investment purposes because bitcoins are decentralized and not stable thus they arr not following the prerequisite of being a currency also they are illegal in some countries thus it would prevent that sector of population and indulging in other business activity pertaining to currency like bitcoin. Also it was invented for the sake of providing a digital platform for investment basis and it's evident from the fact that the inventor made it decentralized.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: merchantofzeny on November 21, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.

This is how I tend to use it. I only convert to fiat what I needed to use and try to keep the rest for holding. I still find it a bit silly to use it to buy stuff considering how the price can still rise. Maybe that would change once we've defeated gold and fiat, or at least bitcoin comes to their level of use. I mean, how many people here get their salary in bitcoins?

That's true and it's really applicable to me right now mate, the proof is their already so for me it's the best currency ever. I am not converting that bitcoin just for what I need, but also for my personal expenses like entertainment and other miscellaneous budgets. Although of it's volatility it doesn't mean we will have to panic, we can still spend and don't worry of possible crash because fluctuations will normally happen specially bitcoin now become more popular.

Well good for you, I barely spend any (quite ironic for my username).  ;D

The thing is, I don't mine any crypto so every bit I earn I really have to work for. I managed to snag some campaigns here before, that's how I started learning how to use bitcoins anyway. I no longer participate in any now though. They are far in between because of the high price and obviously we seem to get millions of newbies everyday here, ahaha. ;D

I'm currently looking into getting to learn skills so I can freelance and earn more. For now, my money is staying in the wallet.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: evilgreed on November 21, 2017, 06:15:59 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.

This is how I tend to use it. I only convert to fiat what I needed to use and try to keep the rest for holding. I still find it a bit silly to use it to buy stuff considering how the price can still rise. Maybe that would change once we've defeated gold and fiat, or at least bitcoin comes to their level of use. I mean, how many people here get their salary in bitcoins?

That's true and it's really applicable to me right now mate, the proof is their already so for me it's the best currency ever. I am not converting that bitcoin just for what I need, but also for my personal expenses like entertainment and other miscellaneous budgets. Although of it's volatility it doesn't mean we will have to panic, we can still spend and don't worry of possible crash because fluctuations will normally happen specially bitcoin now become more popular.

Well good for you, I barely spend any (quite ironic for my username).  ;D

The thing is, I don't mine any crypto so every bit I earn I really have to work for. I managed to snag some campaigns here before, that's how I started learning how to use bitcoins anyway. I no longer participate in any now though. They are far in between because of the high price and obviously we seem to get millions of newbies everyday here, ahaha. ;D

I'm currently looking into getting to learn skills so I can freelance and earn more. For now, my money is staying in the wallet.



              Isn't it a already a bit crowded when we got millions of newbies every day? Well setting that aside i am also positive bitcoin will be good in a long run, although several updates and technical changes have been made in order for it to be used smoothly, nothing has change to what bitcoin really is, and it doesn't fit for me usng bitcoin as a day to day currency although its made to be used as one, but i choose to hold mine inside my wallet.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: ricardobs on November 22, 2017, 12:06:45 PM
It wasn't made to be used as a currency is what I think.. if that was the case then for sure developers would have made it centralized and thats.. Everyone knows it isn't..also!!!
I think its made to target stock market not the currency one...we already do have a lots of currencies in..the world and I don't think we do need anymore..it was created to revolutionize the idea of cryptocurrency market.. to get people out of paper money and to.. do investment in something other than gold or stocks...
Also.. its not fixed and centralized and they are perquisites of being labelled as a currency. :)
Of course it wasn’t made to be a real currency, that’s why it is called a virtual currency. So I don’t see any reason you should be regarding as a Currency, it is a digital-asset meant particularly for investment and should also be regarded as such. Well, you can also use it as a currency, but it has a limit, cause same thing applies Gold which can also be used to buy something if you see someone that accepts it. I saw someone say that it is best to use Bitcoin just because it is not legal, only a criminal will say such a thing, because from what I know, criminals likes to deal on illegal things and not legal ones. They are the same people that will also tell you that bitcoin should take real currencies, because they want an opportunity to stay anonymous while they carry out their evil plans, and they are also the same people that will complain when legit companies ask for their ID.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: lvincent on November 22, 2017, 12:15:41 PM
I think the fact that only few stores are accepting bitcoin that's why some people are not seeing it as a currency there's not even a single local business near my place that's accepting bitcoin and the thing that bitcoin being a asset i mean it is great and we can't blame the investor cause we all see the potential of bitcoin and look at it now really developed and still increasing it's price so for now i' just holding my bitcoin too as an asset since almost i cannot buy anything in bitcoin if i don't convert it to fiat so it's better this way.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: bajigur894784 on November 22, 2017, 12:26:10 PM
yes, bitcoin is the best investment mode, because cryptocurrency is considered a "safe haven asset".

So ... users already consider Bitcoin a means of investing the gold equivalent.

when called a currency yes of course .. because bitcoin not only as a means of investment, has many physical businesses and companies, restaurants and online services that use Bitcoin as a means of payment.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Thanasis on November 22, 2017, 12:44:25 PM
I think the fact that only few stores are accepting bitcoin that's why some people are not seeing it as a currency there's not even a single local business near my place that's accepting bitcoin and the thing that bitcoin being a asset i mean it is great and we can't blame the investor cause we all see the potential of bitcoin and look at it now really developed and still increasing it's price so for now i' just holding my bitcoin too as an asset since almost i cannot buy anything in bitcoin if i don't convert it to fiat so it's better this way.

In terms of currency bitcoin is still not yet accepted by many users but some of the developed countries are providing bitcoin as a mode of payment,if you can't spent bitcoins directly now don't worry soon in all places bitcoin will be accepted as mode of payments.
But the best mode of bitcoin is the investment mode because your investment growth rate is very high and give huge profits in short time according to other investments like gold or stock.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: dulce dd121990 on November 22, 2017, 12:46:33 PM
I do prefer the btc mode of investment. Because now a days, bitcoin is the best way to invest. It has a big chance of a great investment that makes our money doubled or even tripled.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: harizen on November 22, 2017, 01:10:40 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

It's not being ignored. It's just that we can see majority using bitcoin as an investment but at least even at small percentage, bitcoin was being used as a currency. Merchants who accepts bitcoin will not considered accepting bitcoin as payment if there is no such thing as bitcoin isn't used as a currency.

You just have to let it progress on it's own. Didn't you know that while bitcoin price is increasing, it's not always that people will hold their coin. At some point, because the price is high, they take advantage of it by buying goods on which they will only spend small fraction of bitcoin.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Ararbermas on November 22, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
I do prefer the btc mode of investment. Because now a days, bitcoin is the best way to invest. It has a big chance of a great investment that makes our money doubled or even tripled.
thats true mate this currency is legit it can make us profitble because of its volatility. I refer also to invest in bitcoin instead of fiat invesment cause fiat is to slow for earnings not the same with bitcoin which is it give us a lot of profit time on time and give us a chance to bid a cheap price and sell in a high price that is the common reason why bitcoin is the best for investing.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Rinder on November 23, 2017, 03:20:42 PM
At this point for sure bitcoin investment is the best, atleast we do have soo far around 700% profit if you had invested into January and bought bitcoin into those period and holded. Fiat atleas in the general hasnt made any significant increase into its value, besides the normal up and down between currencies. All people had invested into bitcoin due to two reasons, one its decentralized, can be used as store of value and other due to its big potencial to make money. There some altcoins wich will be more easy to integrate and spread away then bitcoin, since they are faster, cheaper and more people friendly, bitcoin will became a store of value.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: ritsel02 on November 23, 2017, 04:12:36 PM
As for now I considered bitcoin as an investment mode.We cannot hide the fact that lot of investors have faith on investing bitcoin because of its potential and strong value.
I myself is investing and holding it for a long term though there are times that I also used it as a currency when it comes to emergency matters.



Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: aoihs00 on November 23, 2017, 04:29:20 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

It is true that the principle behind the creation of bitcoin was to make it as easy currency to transfer the funds form one point to another or in simple words easiest peer to peer transaction experience. But with the time people took it completely in wind way and starts making the investment instead of transactions and thus the bitcoin got the status of greatest asset ever and it also broke all the record in very short period of time. So I'm pretty sure that now bitcoin will used as an asset only and there is no coming back from it because man just look at the number of investors here and they all just waiting for the rich status to obtain by suing bitcoin itself. :-)

I think its not our fault because bitcoin itself got so much powerful that we had no option but to adopt it in that way. But let see we still have scope of the bitcoin in future as financial institutes from real world still have nit got any interest in it but they will surely.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: aeternus on November 23, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: cryptocrusher on November 23, 2017, 05:41:37 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

I do not see why it needs to necessarily be a choice, bitcoin can be used for transactions and it can also be used as an asset which people hold. Of course any increase in adoption will increase price.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Fretcy on November 23, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Bitcoin is a good investment as well as the best mode of payment throughout the world, it helps to keep a bridge of payment between different countries worldwide without borders, from the bitcoin history it is clear that the early investors has helped them to be millionaires of the time. If you see as a investment it will help to attain good profits in the long run as there are high potential for bitcoin network to increase its value to more than thousand times more or two thousand times more than the current value which has surpassed $8200 as of today. Since its inception the bitcoin technology has increased the value with low dips for some time like in normal stocks and share market and huge leap where the prices shoots up to the sky. I do see this invention as a good investment and as a good digital currency which can be used worldwide.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Kronos21 on November 23, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.
In order for bitcoin to have received such quality as you say should totally change the conditions for its use. Now bitcoin is used for accumulation and indirectly supports Fiat. Because in order to make purchases, we are forced to change their coins for Fiat. All purchases we make for Fiat. This means that we will never give up Fiat.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: dmamigo on November 23, 2017, 06:04:00 PM
For me both are best as both helped me. They are great as an asset and a currency or transaction medium, as it provided great return as an asset/investment does and also I found it easy to transact and send money or buy something. But the usage varies from person to person, so its baseless to compare.
I have friends who uses Bitcoin only for his business transaction, he has opened a option to accept Bitcoin.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: bixbem90 on November 23, 2017, 06:45:20 PM
With me bitcoin like a both assest and a crypto currency. So the increasing of bitcoin make me willing because i still hold it. When i need money, of course i will sell amount for take USD( My country not accept bitcoin as a payment for buying daily items). So investment mode of btc like gold, if you look like BTC as an assest.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: jagdeepjd on November 24, 2017, 09:09:06 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

Bitcoin was certainly made to be used a currency and maybe in future, it would be used as a currency. but at the moment it is mostly used for raising income or investing tool.
for bitcoin to be used as a currency we have to go a long way and solve the scalability issues which bitcoin has currently and global adoption is of course required. In the coming years when we solve this issues by bringing lightning network etc we might see bitcoin being accepted as a regular payment means.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: zhekinsp on November 24, 2017, 09:40:41 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
As you said bitcoin is created to used as a currency but if we hold our bitcoins now the it will give huge profits in the future so no one want to spend the bitcoins now.I fyou want to spend bitcoin now you can spend it bro.
But spending bitcoin is not possible everywhre nowadays because bitcoin payment mode available only small places so it takes time to spend bitcoins as a bitcoin.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: a4techer on November 24, 2017, 09:50:31 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

Bitcoin was a currency also it is a cryptocurrency and yes we using for income to buy, shop, pay bills and many others that we didnt know before but as of now many country was they approve the legalization of bitcoin and they can use in many transaction and as we can see that bitcoin was continuously growing up or raising up and that is good for us to earn and have income.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: speedy963 on November 24, 2017, 10:01:19 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.
In order for bitcoin to have received such quality as you say should totally change the conditions for its use. Now bitcoin is used for accumulation and indirectly supports Fiat. Because in order to make purchases, we are forced to change their coins for Fiat. All purchases we make for Fiat. This means that we will never give up Fiat.
The main purpose why bitcoin has been created is to be used as a currency, and because of its volatility people come up of an idea on how to grow their bitcoins, their are also lots of methods and ways to grow your bitcoin, and as you said " we are forced to changed their coins into fiats"? well its not like that, nobody is forcing you, and besides there are also lots of new investors that we do not know maybe daily, so volatility was being taken advantage in order to gain and grow your bitcoin. That's it.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: eaglewhite80 on November 24, 2017, 10:26:42 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

Bitcoin was certainly made to be used a currency and maybe in future, it would be used as a currency. but at the moment it is mostly used for raising income or investing tool.
for bitcoin to be used as a currency we have to go a long way and solve the scalability issues which bitcoin has currently and global adoption is of course required. In the coming years when we solve this issues by bringing lightning network etc we might see bitcoin being accepted as a regular payment means.
Maybe in future as you have said. The fact remains that using bitcoin now without still having to convert to fiat is not that easy. And what difference does it make from those who are trading on exchanges daily? Leave it or yes, there are still spenders. If the spender the OP is looking for is to be able to do daily transactions with it, then we will just have to wait until it becomes easy, but until then, I guess we have to just see it more like an asset.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: JacksonMonroe on November 24, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.
In order for bitcoin to have received such quality as you say should totally change the conditions for its use. Now bitcoin is used for accumulation and indirectly supports Fiat. Because in order to make purchases, we are forced to change their coins for Fiat. All purchases we make for Fiat. This means that we will never give up Fiat.
The main purpose why bitcoin has been created is to be used as a currency, and because of its volatility people come up of an idea on how to grow their bitcoins, their are also lots of methods and ways to grow your bitcoin, and as you said " we are forced to changed their coins into fiats"? well its not like that, nobody is forcing you, and besides there are also lots of new investors that we do not know maybe daily, so volatility was being taken advantage in order to gain and grow your bitcoin. That's it.
I agree with you i think investment mode is the best for BTC because people are actually making a lot from it and people are becoming rich everyday currency mode is not so good in my opinion because bitcoin is not supposed to be real life money.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Duogembrot on November 24, 2017, 10:40:00 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

it seems that investments with bitcoin methods are better than others because bitcoin is still cheap and the ups and downs in price are terrible, this could create an opportunity for investors.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: orka39 on November 24, 2017, 10:56:59 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

You are right when you said start using bitcoin as currency will boost user number and price automatically. But why investment mode is used by more people than currency? Because so far not many sites or especially offline place accept bitcoin as payment.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Nanot on November 24, 2017, 11:07:34 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
Become a btc holder you must fucus on its currency price that deals to make sure the wellness of your life in able to protect and make sure that your investment would be succed and progressive.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: TTITA on November 24, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
I do't think this is a problem. It is inevitable today many new people following then decide to buying many bitcoin for quick profit, this is not contrary to the condition of crypto as currency, because we can see many alternative coins besides bitcoin traded. This is the economic principle, when we follow the trend to get profit with less risk.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: farhaan on November 24, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
Bitcoin was actually created as a currency but latter with its increasing price,people started to see it as an investment.It was getting used for both purposes.

But latter,people started using it mostly as a high return giving investment and just started buying more bitcoins.If it gets continued to used just as investment,then it would not enter in to mainstream and it would be just stored as gold.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Maveth13 on November 24, 2017, 02:05:53 PM
I think for bitcoin to be used as a currency by everyone as it is intended, the price needs to be stable first. Yes you can use bitcoin to buy things, but the first thing that comes to people's mind when doing this is that the amount they will spend now might double after X amount of time. Because of this, people repress on spending btc and just hold as an investment.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: waynechong1995 on November 24, 2017, 03:18:28 PM
With this ongoing trend it's not good news for the community, price going up and down just create more losers when big players decide to go out with those literally millions from fresh buyers that had no idea how this piece of technology works, the price just doesn't align at all with the true usability on bitcoin in our society, YET. I believe those parties that adopting bitcoins as major business are suffering for not having a loyal user base considering all just dive in exchanges, far too much for anyone to control with it's being decentralized and everybody just wants quick profits selling and buying off bitcoins as assets.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: aeternus on November 28, 2017, 05:29:15 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.
In order for bitcoin to have received such quality as you say should totally change the conditions for its use. Now bitcoin is used for accumulation and indirectly supports Fiat. Because in order to make purchases, we are forced to change their coins for Fiat. All purchases we make for Fiat. This means that we will never give up Fiat.
Many people make the comparison between gold and bitcoin, gold has always been hoarded and in the past was used as a currency so I do not think the fact that people are hoarding bitcoin to be something that plays against bitcoin, in fact I think it is a good thing since that means people trust in bitcoin to retain its value.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: CuriousGeorge on November 28, 2017, 05:32:02 AM

A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.
In order for bitcoin to have received such quality as you say should totally change the conditions for its use. Now bitcoin is used for accumulation and indirectly supports Fiat. Because in order to make purchases, we are forced to change their coins for Fiat. All purchases we make for Fiat. This means that we will never give up Fiat.
That's the problem, people just use bitcoin to convert it to fiat, the payment method with bitcoin is not practical and rather expensive really different compared to the past when the blockchain still not this crowded.
we can conclude that bitcoin will can't beat fiat as a function to be a payment method until atleast bitcoin becoming more practical to be used.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: beerlover on November 28, 2017, 12:38:26 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
It totally depends on the mode you want to switch yourself to. Both are good, but we both know if you invest it properly, it is more like multiplying what you have which does not mean you cannot do the two.

Spending is important and if trading is normally not even going on right now which is still part of currency mode as far as I am concerned, we won't be seeing the fluctuations we are seeing. Certainly we cannot deny the fact that it is not widely accepted yet, which is what makes the currency mode difficult without having to convert to fiat before, but it is a gradual thing.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Reid on November 28, 2017, 12:47:49 PM
Even if we want to, how can we let go of something that keeps on going up?
That is just one problem.
Next is where will we use it?
There is a lack of merchants that accepts bitcoin as a means of payment.
Usage will never be done unless we do have some place where we could spend it.
Items like the one on Amazon that almost have it all will help.
But who is going to risk it? Will there be one company who will take the next step?


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 28, 2017, 12:55:47 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
During Bitcoin's early age the essence of being a new form of currency can be seen but as it has gained popularity in the community, Bitcoin's price skyrocketed until today that is why enthusiasts see something that Bitcoin has potential when it comes to investment purposes. Most crypto enthusiasts these days are into investing time and money to earn profits with cryptocurrency most especially in Bitcoin. Some people are holding Bitcoins for long term investment and some others trade Altcoins in exchange of Bitcoins. It doesn't matter on how we understand and deal with Bitcoin either an investment, a store of value or a currency.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: arseaboy on November 28, 2017, 01:37:22 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,
During Bitcoin's early age the essence of being a new form of currency can be seen but as it has gained popularity in the community, Bitcoin's price skyrocketed until today that is why enthusiasts see something that Bitcoin has potential when it comes to investment purposes. Most crypto enthusiasts these days are into investing time and money to earn profits with cryptocurrency most especially in Bitcoin. Some people are holding Bitcoins for long term investment and some others trade Altcoins in exchange of Bitcoins. It doesn't matter on how we understand and deal with Bitcoin either an investment, a store of value or a currency.
I also noticed that crypto industries already created a mindset, that investors will gain if they know how to work with it, the essence of creating a new form of currency to make payment transactions  more easier is no longer the main point of holding bitcoin, who would thought that this will happen so fast and from
now on people are holding and keep placing their resources with this current investment.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: merchantofzeny on December 01, 2017, 06:56:36 PM

Well good for you, I barely spend any (quite ironic for my username).  ;D

The thing is, I don't mine any crypto so every bit I earn I really have to work for. I managed to snag some campaigns here before, that's how I started learning how to use bitcoins anyway. I no longer participate in any now though. They are far in between because of the high price and obviously we seem to get millions of newbies everyday here, ahaha. ;D

I'm currently looking into getting to learn skills so I can freelance and earn more. For now, my money is staying in the wallet.



              Isn't it a already a bit crowded when we got millions of newbies every day? Well setting that aside i am also positive bitcoin will be good in a long run, although several updates and technical changes have been made in order for it to be used smoothly, nothing has change to what bitcoin really is, and it doesn't fit for me usng bitcoin as a day to day currency although its made to be used as one, but i choose to hold mine inside my wallet.

Not only am I hopeful, we need it. Sooner or later economies running on what is basically debt would have a crash turning everything we worked for into dust. Cryptocurrency is one possible way for us to avoid being a casualty.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: merchantofzeny on December 01, 2017, 07:10:06 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.

This is how I tend to use it. I only convert to fiat what I needed to use and try to keep the rest for holding. I still find it a bit silly to use it to buy stuff considering how the price can still rise. Maybe that would change once we've defeated gold and fiat, or at least bitcoin comes to their level of use. I mean, how many people here get their salary in bitcoins?

That's true and it's really applicable to me right now mate, the proof is their already so for me it's the best currency ever. I am not converting that bitcoin just for what I need, but also for my personal expenses like entertainment and other miscellaneous budgets. Although of it's volatility it doesn't mean we will have to panic, we can still spend and don't worry of possible crash because fluctuations will normally happen specially bitcoin now become more popular.

Guess it's more of me being such a cheapskate, ahaha! I would often be like "those bitcoins I withdrew last year... they could be worth double now had I waited". Anyway, I don't really need it for daily use anyway so I can just keep them there.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Smarty14392 on December 04, 2017, 07:42:16 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

It is true that the principle behind the creation of bitcoin was to make it as easy currency to transfer the funds form one point to another or in simple words easiest peer to peer transaction experience. But with the time people took it completely in wind way and starts making the investment instead of transactions and thus the bitcoin got the status of greatest asset ever and it also broke all the record in very short period of time. So I'm pretty sure that now bitcoin will used as an asset only and there is no coming back from it because man just look at the number of investors here and they all just waiting for the rich status to obtain by suing bitcoin itself. :-)

I think its not our fault because bitcoin itself got so much powerful that we had no option but to adopt it in that way. But let see we still have scope of the bitcoin in future as financial institutes from real world still have nit got any interest in it but they will surely.
Transactions are still being done and one thing is that it is a normal thing to see when considering all options in this ecosystem and everyone serves a purpose (spenders, holders, traders etc.).

Normal human consciousness will normally not want to quickly spend something that can also serve as an asset and increase in the long run, but that does not mean we do not have spenders at all. After all, I still used part of my bitcoin to buy some groceries recently so we cannot just assume that no one is spending.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Maddinson100 on December 04, 2017, 08:13:35 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.
Yea, it is easy to say everyone should spend now, but the fact is that in reality, you can even hardly spend without converting to fiat first which is still spending as far as I know. Therefore, since we are seeing a lot of activities going on in most of the trading platforms, I consider it as exchange from hand to hand which is still spending but a different way. Until we start seeing more merchants accepting and real life usage becomes easy, before we start seeing people spending.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: lilmansbride on December 04, 2017, 08:14:23 AM
With the current high price, investment mode of btc isn't the best , other currency will give you more profit than Bitcoin can.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: katrimans on December 05, 2017, 05:26:16 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

I do not see why it needs to necessarily be a choice, bitcoin can be used for transactions and it can also be used as an asset which people hold. Of course any increase in adoption will increase price.
Even the holding is playing some roles too. The fact that bitcoin is useful and we get to see very little in circulation makes the demand to be high and then the value to increase. More like, please I need what you are holding and I am willing to pay this for it.

Over time, when people find ways to start using it easily, a lot would change and we will start seeing people spending. So many people are getting paid now in bitcoin and they just have to spend at some point no matter how little.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Bakukang on December 05, 2017, 06:55:12 AM
It is both needed for transactions and also for investment.Then why is it an issue for now if you use it for currency or for transaction to pay and alsi to invest on some projects.For me there is no difference between the two.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: mriansa on December 05, 2017, 07:34:37 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

if you play with a lot of money you can invest at least 1 BTC and you wait for 2 years to come then you will get a lot of bitcoin from your investment advantage.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: aeternus on December 07, 2017, 06:58:47 PM

A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

The price of something goes up if it's desired, and has a certain set of properties that make it a good long term holding.

Bitcoin first needs to be a store of value, a currency is the next step after that, and thus far we are still in the store of value process. We need to defeat gold as store of value. Daily usage of BTC will come with lightning networks. We don't need to do anything other than keep developing the technology and people will freely choose to use it as a currency, until then it's just digital gold.
People are not going to do something that goes against their interests, people do not use bitcoin right now because they do not find it practical, but when bitcoin finally becomes what we know it can become a fast way to make payments all around the world, people are going to use it instead of fiat.
In order for bitcoin to have received such quality as you say should totally change the conditions for its use. Now bitcoin is used for accumulation and indirectly supports Fiat. Because in order to make purchases, we are forced to change their coins for Fiat. All purchases we make for Fiat. This means that we will never give up Fiat.
That's the problem, people just use bitcoin to convert it to fiat, the payment method with bitcoin is not practical and rather expensive really different compared to the past when the blockchain still not this crowded.
we can conclude that bitcoin will can't beat fiat as a function to be a payment method until atleast bitcoin becoming more practical to be used.
Not only changing our bitcoin to fiat is adding an unnecessary step but it is also adding additional fees that is why bitcoin needs to be used directly, this is why what it is happening in Japan is really important, in Japan there are many business accepting bitcoin already and once the lightning network is in place the number of business accepting bitcoin is going to go up and for those that want to use their bitcoin directly Japan is going to become a place where we can live our lives using bitcoin directly.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Argie021213 on March 01, 2018, 07:55:22 AM
It depends on how a country will accept bitcoins. Because they are also using their existing currencies, but there's not much difference in it, both are useful in their own ways, they also have their own limitations,bitcoins are essential whether it is used in the form of investment or currency.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Tapyaks72 on March 01, 2018, 08:05:22 AM
It depends on how a country will accept bitcoins. Because they are also using their existing currencies, but there's not much difference in it, both are useful in their own ways, they also have their own limitations,bitcoins are essential whether it is used in the form of investment or currency.
As we  all  know  bitcoins  can  be  used  both it either as bitcoin investment or a currencies  and  if you want  investment it is more  than  any money in the  world how fast it grows  can  you  imagine if you just hold  for several  years  how much you earn. And if you also use it  for  currency for as we know it has been no boundaries you can use  it every where  around  the globe economically.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Alalex on March 01, 2018, 09:35:15 AM
The best investment is investing with cripto money, because more profits are gained than investing with foreign currency. In addition, the price of cripto money is much larger than paper money.
Previously I tried to invest with forex money I get five times from my deposit for 2 months.
So because I just put a little deposit, and the result I get is also a bit in foreign currency.
If only I put a deposit in the eyes of cripto money would be the advantage that I get more than to put a deposit in foreign currency.
So I better invest with cripto money because so many benefits that I get.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: bagsladderg on March 18, 2018, 04:31:15 AM
its better as an assets only because nobody is going to accept btcs so easily over fiats that they has been seeing from birth


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: jaydoes6 on March 18, 2018, 07:51:50 PM
Do you think it can be used as currency? Is it really worth that reliability and faith? I dont think so -_-


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: kimochidesh on March 18, 2018, 11:20:44 PM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

Rightly said...the main motive of Bitcoin was to get independent and transparent payment mode. Satoshi might never imagine Bitcoin is being an instrument of trading forgetting its original motive of BTC.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: romanovst on March 19, 2018, 02:52:37 AM
A trend has been started that bitcoin is now used only for raising income by buying and selling it but we are ignoring its most important fact that it was created to be used as currency and if it can be used as the currency it would really help community to enjoy its eases and regions who are accepting btc must have to start it as currency this will automatically boost user no's as well a prices,

This is one of the biggest problems with bitcoins currently. I think even the developers did not wanted bitcoins to be seen as an investment medium when they launched it. However, as the prices started going up, everyone became greedy for money and forget about the real use of bitcoins. When we have price stabilize completely, people will start using it for buying/selling more often. Current situation is like everyone wants to get paid in bitcoins but no buyer want to pay in bitcoins as they think that the value of accumulated coins will increase.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: pubmongrelT on March 19, 2018, 04:22:49 AM
I am eagerly waiting for the day to happen so. Our society will reach a new height of modernisation by its aid :)


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: antliafightingR on March 19, 2018, 10:51:41 PM
Cant we even think for the poor people out there? and those beggars? How can they get their life if btcs become the currencies?


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: micleeiu398 on March 20, 2018, 10:29:37 AM
its better as an assets only because nobody is going to accept btcs so easily over fiats that they has been seeing from birth
I will for this statement too. Absolutely the currencies that are continuously be used in that areas and people are used to of it, how can they welcome another currency that isn’t much popular in their country. Now a days, people have shown an immense response to use bitcoins as an asset where they are investing and earning money in return. Hundreds and thousands of people have been benefited through these enormous coins.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Minnie1928 on March 20, 2018, 02:40:57 PM
Cant we even think for the poor people out there? and those beggars? How can they get their life if btcs become the currencies?

Especially for that reason, the Bitcoin will never get accepted as a everyday currency. To become the currency it must be first adopted by the government. For the government to push it further to the legalization and proclamation as currency the must provide the necessary equipment for all the citizens in the specific country. Not all people have the internet, computers, smartphones for the paying with the Bitcoin.
That is the main problem with the digitalization!
FIAT will always exist and even if the Bitcoin is struggling to achieve the implementation for the Bitcoin investors it is more tempting to make some profit from the market fluctuations then the transfer of the Bitcoin and change to the currency as such.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: hoaryal1 on March 21, 2018, 03:33:03 AM
Its better to circulate both of them similarly but govt will never favour an opponent to its income LOL


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: johnalyn on March 21, 2018, 03:58:52 AM
I use bitcoin as an investment asset to make money not make it a currency mode to buy things online and invest also in some coin that I know the future of growth in the future to make it double while working in one coin and in that way I can do much better amount of bitcoin earning than wotking in one coin for my future dream life.


Title: Re: investment mode of btc is best or currency mode???
Post by: Cosbycoin on March 21, 2018, 12:32:11 PM
I am eagerly waiting for the day to happen so. Our society will reach a new height of modernisation by its aid :)
I think it is just a matter of time which will decide the things in a better way and that it will give us an opportunity of living a very much comfortable life as well.

For now, bitcoin is only being used as a mode of investing money and that its scope for being used as currency is not that much but with time, we will surely be able to use it not only as the best way of investing of money but also as a currency.