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Title: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: DPoS on June 26, 2013, 11:30:59 PM
So that big dive just went back on... thoughts?

Did someone trip over the ASICminer plug yesterday?


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: k9quaint on June 26, 2013, 11:37:12 PM
So that big dive just went back on... thoughts?

Did someone trip over the ASICminer plug yesterday?

ASICMiner is the only known colocation of mining gear large enough to cause a 30TH/s swing in the hash rate.


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: cp1 on June 26, 2013, 11:40:52 PM
You can check asicminer here:  http://www.asicminercharts.com/


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: DPoS on June 27, 2013, 12:16:15 AM
What a beast...


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: cp1 on June 27, 2013, 01:44:31 AM
 Anyone have a rough idea of what their costs were to build that?   ( and what the total dollar cost of shares was? )


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: ujka on June 27, 2013, 08:51:36 AM
You can check asicminer here:  http://www.asicminercharts.com/
And here http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/ (http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/), more 'live' version. I monitored that page for a while yesterday, and noticed a jump in that green column (6 hour average) from 12 Thash to 50 Thash and then back down to 34 Thash!

Also, I checked the mining pools stats at http://blockchain.info/pools (http://blockchain.info/pools), and that unknown slice was at 22% yesterday.

I'm thinking that 30 Thash switching is not only from ASICMiner.


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: Zephir on June 27, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
The max network hashrate were 197 Th/s yesterday.
The graphs on the charts doesn´t show it now, just the counter on bitcoincharts showed it live yesterday.
This is more than 59 Th/s  more than todays 138 Th/s.
I find it a bit disturbing, that someone has that hashpower or maybe Avalon just tested their batch 3 before shipping.


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: ujka on June 27, 2013, 01:33:59 PM
Notice this - last two retarget periods (25.5.-16.6) hashrate increased by 60 Thash!
In that time ASICMiner charts are showing increase from 20 to 40 Thash. So, 20 Thash increase is from ASICMiner, but where did the rest of 40 Thash came from?
In that time Avalon shipped a few units from batch #2, and BFL a couple hundreds(?) Jalapenos. But that's maybe 5-10 Thash. There is still more then 30 Thash of new power unacounted! Some unknown company developed an ASIC in secret?


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: ujka on June 27, 2013, 02:12:57 PM
Anyone have a rough idea of what their costs were to build that?   ( and what the total dollar cost of shares was? )
Take a look at the original AM thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0
"IPO The GLBSE ticker is ASICMINER. 200,000 shares are issued. Initially,
30,000 are for public sale. 170,000 are for private bulk purchase via PMs and the
asset transfer system of GLBSE. The ratio may be adjusted but the total number is
always 200,000. The price per share is set at 0.1BTC."

The price per share is set at 0.1BTC. <--!!! (august 2012)


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: atcsecure on June 27, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
Notice this - last two retarget periods (25.5.-16.6) hashrate increased by 60 Thash!
In that time ASICMiner charts are showing increase from 20 to 40 Thash. So, 20 Thash increase is from ASICMiner, but where did the rest of 40 Thash came from?
In that time Avalon shipped a few units from batch #2, and BFL a couple hundreds(?) Jalapenos. But that's maybe 5-10 Thash. There is still more then 30 Thash of new power unacounted! Some unknown company developed an ASIC in secret?


bingo


something is pushing hash rates through the roof but the SHIPPED ASIC's are only a drop in the bucket

either unknown ASIC or BFL is mining using customer gear


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: cp1 on June 27, 2013, 05:17:38 PM
It must be that miner that uses lightning.  Can't wait to get one!


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: crazyates on June 27, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
You guys know you can't just use a 6 hour windows to estimate hashrate, right? Right?!


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: ujka on June 27, 2013, 06:43:04 PM
You guys know you can't just use a 6 hour windows to estimate hashrate, right? Right?!
Why? The point is on 'estimate', not to be exact to the last (M)hash.
And what if that site http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/ (http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/) is showing ASICMiners hashrate as reported directly by the blades?
(BTW, now at 73 Thash 6 hour average)


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: GodHatesFigs on June 29, 2013, 07:07:31 PM
^ Variance, you tard


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: k9quaint on June 29, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
You guys know you can't just use a 6 hour windows to estimate hashrate, right? Right?!

Of course you can. You can use a 6 second window to estimate hash rate. It just won't be very accurate.  ;D


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: Perseus353 on June 30, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
So that big dive just went back on... thoughts?

Did someone trip over the ASICminer plug yesterday?

ASICMiner is the only known colocation of mining gear large enough to cause a 30TH/s swing in the hash rate.


Has ASICMiner been DDOS'ed lately? 


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: ujka on June 30, 2013, 07:38:19 PM
Has ASICMiner been DDOS'ed lately? 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2537975#msg2537975 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2537975#msg2537975)
Quote
The hashrate drop this week was caused by an internal troubleshooting which took about 10h, followed by a series of bad luck (which happened to involve the whole network).


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: oaxaca on July 07, 2013, 05:30:57 AM
New ASICMiner record, 61 Thash  :o
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxlbf0d50rjo4cl/Screenshot-1.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxlbf0d50rjo4cl/Screenshot-1.png
That's over 1/3 of the network total.

I remember reading that that chart estimate is based on blocks found, not hashing power.  A run of good luck would spike the number.


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: ujka on July 07, 2013, 10:20:54 AM
I remember reading that that chart estimate is based on blocks found, not hashing power.  A run of good luck would spike the number.
Right. If chart is based on blocks found.
What if it's based on number of shares submitted by workers? Like in pools?


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: oaxaca on July 07, 2013, 07:07:25 PM
I remember reading that that chart estimate is based on blocks found, not hashing power.  A run of good luck would spike the number.
Right. If chart is based on blocks found.
What if it's based on number of shares submitted by workers? Like in pools?

They are solomining.


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: chuhuue on July 21, 2013, 04:34:20 AM
I'd put money on AsicMINER. Other than that, it could be a huge mining operation that had a minor issue and was temporarily down.


Title: Re: So who's switching on and off 30Thash ??
Post by: cncguru on July 21, 2013, 01:28:36 PM


You are not considering the reality that people exist outside of this forum that can casually dump 7 or 8 figure sums into their "hobbies".