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Title: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: vit05 on November 23, 2017, 08:19:28 PM Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: DaMut on November 24, 2017, 06:31:45 AM there're a lot of people calling 'correction' to 'crash',
do you guys even know what is the meaning of 'crash' itself and 'correction' ? the best way to describe it was 'Correction' because whenever we're seeing the downtrend a few weeks or days before we're seeing the pump, so basically it's only moving back to its average price and then moving upward. this table only show the decline after the pump,and of course the result would be like this because every months we will see the pump. for me this chart only show how many time we're pumping and how many times we're doing a correction, if we're moving like this charts,next month we should see another movement because it's Q4. but who knows ? the whales always break the pattern in order to maximze the profit, Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: player514 on November 24, 2017, 06:41:51 AM there're a lot of people calling 'correction' to 'crash', do you guys even know what is the meaning of 'crash' itself and 'correction' ? the best way to describe it was 'Correction' because whenever we're seeing the downtrend a few weeks or days before we're seeing the pump, so basically it's only moving back to its average price and then moving upward. this table only show the decline after the pump,and of course the result would be like this because every months we will see the pump. for me this chart only show how many time we're pumping and how many times we're doing a correction, if we're moving like this charts,next month we should see another movement because it's Q4. but who knows ? the whales always break the pattern in order to maximze the profit, Yes, this graph is literally only showing the down-trends. Instead, I think OP needs to also include the uptrends in the graphs in order to see which drops were formed after a pump so that they can be correctly labeled as a correction rather than a crash. Furthermore, I understand how this idea is believable. For people who are getting into BTC, they're mainly looking at it as an investment, so they look only at crashes instead of corrections vs. crashes. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Wind_FURY on November 24, 2017, 07:46:24 AM Only once per quarter? So that means I can buy Bitcoin only 4 times a year? That is very disappointing. :(
But DaMut, player514. The graph does not consider how fast Bitcoin recovers after every "crash". They are actually crashes, but Bitcoin's quick recovery makes them look like corrections. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: aso118 on November 24, 2017, 08:03:37 AM So there are good buying opportunities in every quarter. Still, if you have a corpus to invest, I think it is better to get in as early as possible. It might not make sense to wait for a buying opportunity, which may or may not arise.
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Pursuer on November 24, 2017, 08:08:47 AM one of the issues with bitcoin (that the outsiders don't know, or usually forget) is that the market is very small. the price is decided on the exchanges with small orderbooks. it has been growing in the past year but it is still not at the point that we can hope for.
what this means is that the market is easily manipulated and these corrections become crashes very easily. each time that a drop happens, you can see the initial dump was not really that big but it caused a big drop then the bigger volume comes in with panic and causes the crash. because of this I say the time between these "crashes" are mostly manipulation of market makers wanting to make more money from disrupting the market temporarily. and this is becoming harder as bitcoin grows. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: TagaMungkahi on November 24, 2017, 08:40:52 AM The image is too pixelated a.k.a too low in quality. can you post the link of that article?, and i do not really think that it is a crash after all. maybe more like correction, to correct the price of Bitcoin it needed to move in a downtrend and in no time it could go back to the uptrend movement. Well, let's all agree then that this is a crash but this Bitcoin crash incidents is not taking too long before Bitcoin can recover.
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: iamTom123 on November 24, 2017, 09:17:11 AM there're a lot of people calling 'correction' to 'crash', do you guys even know what is the meaning of 'crash' itself and 'correction' ? the best way to describe it was 'Correction' because whenever we're seeing the downtrend a few weeks or days before we're seeing the pump, so basically it's only moving back to its average price and then moving upward. this table only show the decline after the pump,and of course the result would be like this because every months we will see the pump. for me this chart only show how many time we're pumping and how many times we're doing a correction, if we're moving like this charts,next month we should see another movement because it's Q4. but who knows ? the whales always break the pattern in order to maximze the profit, I also preferred the term 'correction' as those are just dips which can be so temporary and then after that there can be a surge...this has been the cycle very much evidenced in Bitcoin. Now, had these 'correction' happened in stocks or forex they can indeed be called as 'crashes' as Bitcoin has a bigger wide margin of volatility compared to other investment vehicle. People who had been to Bitcoin will never be anymore surprised or shocked if Bitcoin can dipped as much as 30% for a given time and many are even wishing for that to happen as every dip can be a good opportunity to buy Bitcoin cheaper. Can we then say that 'corrections' are designed for Bitcoin to avoid the big bubble from happening? Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: boyptc on November 24, 2017, 09:29:31 AM there're a lot of people calling 'correction' to 'crash', do you guys even know what is the meaning of 'crash' itself and 'correction' ? Haha this is what I've been noticing when bitcoin's price starts to correct they will label it as a crash. Anyway let's go with them and talk about the crash and I will agree on wind_fury on this thing. ;D The graph does not consider how fast Bitcoin recovers after every "crash". They are actually crashes, but Bitcoin's quick recovery makes them look like corrections. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Lancusters on November 24, 2017, 10:53:29 AM It is impossible to see the pattern on the bitcoin market. It is not predictable. Many people want to develop a strategy of bitcoin in order to plan their actions but this will not work. It all depends on the market and coordination of the whales. Even the political news affect the behavior of bitcoin. I never plan my actions. Every day I choose his tactics.
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: teilwalL05 on November 24, 2017, 10:54:28 AM there're a lot of people calling 'correction' to 'crash', do you guys even know what is the meaning of 'crash' itself and 'correction' ? the best way to describe it was 'Correction' because whenever we're seeing the downtrend a few weeks or days before we're seeing the pump, so basically it's only moving back to its average price and then moving upward. this table only show the decline after the pump,and of course the result would be like this because every months we will see the pump. for me this chart only show how many time we're pumping and how many times we're doing a correction, if we're moving like this charts,next month we should see another movement because it's Q4. but who knows ? the whales always break the pattern in order to maximze the profit, I also preferred the term 'correction' as those are just dips which can be so temporary and then after that there can be a surge...this has been the cycle very much evidenced in Bitcoin. Now, had these 'correction' happened in stocks or forex they can indeed be called as 'crashes' as Bitcoin has a bigger wide margin of volatility compared to other investment vehicle. People who had been to Bitcoin will never be anymore surprised or shocked if Bitcoin can dipped as much as 30% for a given time and many are even wishing for that to happen as every dip can be a good opportunity to buy Bitcoin cheaper. Can we then say that 'corrections' are designed for Bitcoin to avoid the big bubble from happening? Well bitcoin didn't really budge down, I really think it is peaceful at the mean time it may pump a little then a dip occur which all of you think as a correction, I really think this is just the way bitcoin move or just a fluctuation occurring, I really didn't notice anything unusual in the bitcoin price lately and even if a correction would occur or a dip many people would just think it is a crash. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Omega Weapon on November 24, 2017, 06:11:35 PM Only once per quarter? So that means I can buy Bitcoin only 4 times a year? That is very disappointing. :( The problem is that bitcoin can lose 20% of its value one day and recover the next, so even those 40% decreases in the price are just a few days of loses to bitcoin that is why I do not consider anything below 50% lose in value to be a crash, this may seem to high for many but it is the only way to distinguish the real crashes from the corrections that do not last long.But DaMut, player514. The graph does not consider how fast Bitcoin recovers after every "crash". They are actually crashes, but Bitcoin's quick recovery makes them look like corrections. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: pereira4 on November 24, 2017, 07:34:51 PM It's interesting how technical analysis and fundamental analysis somehow coincide and something complements the other. Things in BTC happen like clockwork which would be said to be technical analysis, but are accompanied by some fundamental analysis related situation.
In other words, anyone that hasn't bought every dip has been panic selling and therefore losing money. It's better that you trust that these things will keep happening, and instead of panicking, buy the dips. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: EcoChavCrypto on November 24, 2017, 07:59:52 PM I still remember when it crashed more than 70 percent during the middle of 2013, it was like a really panic situation, but people was not afraid like all these newbies are when bitcoin tends to go down for less than $100.
It seems that everytime that bitcoin goes down, everybody is saying "The real crash is coming?" "This is the end?" I am tired of always seeing the same kind of shit in here, but i know that it will always keep happening because we are full of this people who are only in here to make money, and always spread fud because they are so afraid of losing their dollars.. But yes, it is going to go down in a few months from now, i dont think that it will crash soon because the price does not need a correction at the moment. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: richardsNY on November 24, 2017, 08:27:17 PM In other words, anyone that hasn't bought every dip has been panic selling and therefore losing money. It's better that you trust that these things will keep happening, and instead of panicking, buy the dips. Most of the people have no clue about what a short term dip is, and for that reason won't be able to take advantage of them. On top of that, people more often than not buy Bitcoin with their entire investment capital at once, and for that reason have no funds left to benefit from potential dips. In the same way, if they secure profits, or just sell in panic, they dump everything they have at once. Other than that, people have been waiting for a crash to happen for quite a while now, and it still didn't come through. Maybe that we'll see it happen slightly under the $10,000 level or above that, but even that might not hold much value in the end. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: minersday on November 24, 2017, 08:30:42 PM A lot of people thinks that bitcoin crashes are a bad thing, but no, they are really needed because without them we would never know if the price is going to go up as soon as possible.
People think that it is a bad thing because they dont want to see a red number on their portfolio, but all the altcoins and cryptos are ALWAYS going to go up again, and there is no doubt with it, because there is everytime more people investing on it. I will never lose my fait on cryptos, and that is the main reason of why i would never stop believing on it, and everytime that there is a crash, i keep buying more because i know that it is really going to go up again. It is always like a real cycle. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: shursight on November 24, 2017, 10:16:52 PM Crashes are a necessary thing if we talk about crypto's, stocks, bonds, commodities, they all are in to the same pack. If there would not be crashes into the prices, nobody would buy more of them because it means that the price will never tell us when to buy.
And this has been the same since the first times in when things started to be tradeable, and i am talking about a few centuries ago. I dont think that it is going to crash soon, but look at the charts, it really crashed by more than 25% on november 12, there is a huge chance that we are going to have a new crash in a few months from now, but there is still some time to make profit from bitcoin, i would not be worried about this, because i trust in bitcoin. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: tabas on November 24, 2017, 10:29:36 PM Don't call a small dip as crash, like what happened last time that we've been through $8,200 down to $7,700. That's not a crash, it's just a correction. Don't think that when the price of bitcoin is getting down, don't call or think it's on a crash. Crashing will lead bitcoin down back to 3 digits.
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: btcone111 on November 24, 2017, 10:54:08 PM thank you very much for the graph, it's very informative. however i would hardly call -30% a crash as it's measuring the absolute highest and lowest points whch are unlikely to be representative of the actual buying / selling price of most trades
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Kyraishi on November 25, 2017, 03:45:39 AM Exactly, if you analyse the trades you will be able to spot some pretty obvious telltale signs of cycles going on. Each pump starts up by having a slow accumulation stage where the price doesnt' really go anywhere, but rather goes sideways a lot. Then, that sideways movement is followed by one pump, and then price is going up every single day until a bust. That bust is usually caused by FUD, meaning price recovers around a week later and the cycle restarts. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: btcney on November 25, 2017, 05:10:01 AM In days of pumping people seem to forget about how deadly dumps can be as well. And the funny thing is many people feel a lot more comfortable with buying at the peaks than buying at the troughs. It's funny how people have a short term memory. Anyways, this chart is an excellent illustration of why you always want to buy at the dip. You could be easily getting coins at a 30% discount or whatnot, instead of buying at the absolute highest price and be left to hold your bags for years to come. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Wind_FURY on November 25, 2017, 05:41:18 AM Don't call a small dip as crash, like what happened last time that we've been through $8,200 down to $7,700. That's not a crash, it's just a correction. Don't think that when the price of bitcoin is getting down, don't call or think it's on a crash. Crashing will lead bitcoin down back to 3 digits. I believe a dip that high can be considered a "mini crash" for some tradional market analysts. If the same happened to a stock market index, they would start making up bearish scenarios on why it happened. In the Bitcoin world, we are so used to high volatility that a dip like that is an opportunity to buy. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Denker on November 25, 2017, 10:12:00 AM Just buy the dips!
When you have hard times to catch the bottom then just average in. We know the big money is coming in the next 12-24 months. Being in before the Wall Street guys is a chance you only get once in your life. And that's now, with Bitcoin the case! So everytime when Bitcoin goes down, check the markets and listen closely!! Then buy and HODL! Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Febo on November 25, 2017, 05:00:31 PM Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter It crashed way more times this year then just 4 times. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: olushakes on November 25, 2017, 06:38:12 PM Everybody who is knowledgeable about the workings of bitcoin knows that its normal for price to drop which has never fail to happen. What I see here is not an analysis rather its a trend because bitcoin price will surely fall and it will happen at some point in the year what the chart does is now to put it in quarter which is still what is happening. I would be more interested if it can predict the exact time in the quarter when the fall will happen. Aside that, I see no further exposition this is talking about.
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: vit05 on November 25, 2017, 08:11:09 PM Just buy the dips! When you have hard times to catch the bottom then just average in. We know the big money is coming in the next 12-24 months. Being in before the Wall Street guys is a chance you only get once in your life. And that's now, with Bitcoin the case! So everytime when Bitcoin goes down, check the markets and listen closely!! Then buy and HODL! Or buy, sell and then buy again. The only thing you can never do is go out of the market. Everyone that has bought one Bitcoin should never stay again without any Bitcoin. It is a pact forever. But you could use some after you make some profit or is in doubt about to where the price will go in the short term. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Drnice on November 25, 2017, 08:16:11 PM Yes that's true and this always occur when there is an upcoming bitcoin fork, and after the fork the price shuts higher than it was.
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: omonuyak on November 25, 2017, 08:23:08 PM We have corrections time to time and clashed in bitcoin price only happens in 2011 and 2012 since then we have never witnessed any major clashed in bitcoin pricing. We should know that corrections create opportunity to buy an assets at a cheap price including bitcoin and others cryptocurrency and we should not see corrections as a problem, as price cannot continue going up. As at the time of making this post bitcoin price is above $8,700 and maybe by tomorrow morning a little correction will happen that will pull bitcoin price close to $8500 and from there the market will gather strong momentum to break $9,000.
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: tabas on November 25, 2017, 09:29:22 PM Don't call a small dip as crash, like what happened last time that we've been through $8,200 down to $7,700. That's not a crash, it's just a correction. Don't think that when the price of bitcoin is getting down, don't call or think it's on a crash. Crashing will lead bitcoin down back to 3 digits. I believe a dip that high can be considered a "mini crash" for some tradional market analysts. If the same happened to a stock market index, they would start making up bearish scenarios on why it happened. In the Bitcoin world, we are so used to high volatility that a dip like that is an opportunity to buy. Exactly, we don't treat such "mini crashes" nor corrections as something that is very negative. This makes us more greedy though because we are having a very nice way to get in again and this makes everyone encourages to buy more. And it's like a norm already that when there's a dip, everyone considering it as buying time. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: BitPlace on November 25, 2017, 10:35:22 PM Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter It crashed way more times this year then just 4 times. Crashing is part of fluctuations created by the time dumps happend and we cannot prevent that to happen. Most of the investor specially those with weaker decision might be losing control and immediately sell their hildings when needed. That makes the bitcoin price volatile in an unpredictable ways. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: AmXProX on November 26, 2017, 12:24:17 AM One thing is common on these price drop, after each of these drop the price will go higher than the price before it dropped. It really makes me thinks that these "crash" is somehow created by several people in order for them to invest more in bitcoin. Only once per quarter? So that means I can buy Bitcoin only 4 times a year? That is very disappointing. :( The problem is that bitcoin can lose 20% of its value one day and recover the next, so even those 40% decreases in the price are just a few days of loses to bitcoin that is why I do not consider anything below 50% lose in value to be a crash, this may seem to high for many but it is the only way to distinguish the real crashes from the corrections that do not last long.But DaMut, player514. The graph does not consider how fast Bitcoin recovers after every "crash". They are actually crashes, but Bitcoin's quick recovery makes them look like corrections. Yes it is really hard to determine if when will the price go down or if it will still recover and on what price will it stabilize. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: xuan87 on November 26, 2017, 01:29:05 AM Actually is not a crash but more of correction,the reason why the price go down is because the price going up too fast, usually is cause by a bunch of people buying bitcoin or a short term to get profit, so it's kind of pumping, this action is very common
Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: jamids on November 26, 2017, 05:05:41 AM Actually is not a crash but more of correction,the reason why the price go down is because the price going up too fast, usually is cause by a bunch of people buying bitcoin or a short term to get profit, so it's kind of pumping, this action is very common During this correction, its the good time to buy bitcoin. Well there is a market cycle so it is not surprising that from time to time there is a correction because if a currency always go up, it will crash hard that's why when there is a buyer exhaustion, price goes down and then accumulation begins and later on price pumps again. Those who are in the crypto market for a long time can already speculate where the price might go while some of the newbies always panic when the price goes down resulting to a sudden drop in price. When it comes to trading cryptocurrencies, it is a roller coaster ride. Title: Re: Bitcoin crashes Roughly once per quarter Post by: Xabad on November 26, 2017, 07:50:35 AM In this "crashes" if you consider it as one there are significant events that happened before the price went down, Mostly it was because a FUD was released against Bitcoin but you will notice that the price recovered right after and it always exceed the previous price before the "crash".
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