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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: niko454 on November 26, 2017, 06:36:17 PM



Title: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: niko454 on November 26, 2017, 06:36:17 PM
Hey guys, if you're interested in playing a new bitcoin gambling game feel free to check out:
https://bitstock.pw/

How to play:
Pick a *company* to invest into. You can invest up to 100,000 bits in one round. When the results come out, if the company you chose has the highest percentage then you win 4x your initial investment.

Please note:
This is a game, the companies you invest into are not real companies and the names are clear parodies such as "Moogle" which is a parody of Google or "Tomato King" which is a parody of Burger King.

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/Odie1zY.png
If you invested into FedUp you would have won in this screenshot.


Features:
- Instant withdrawals.
- Get free bits whenever your balance is less than 10.
- Easy to learn yet fun to play.


If you have any suggestions/questions feel free to LMK!


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: jason.morgan5 on November 26, 2017, 06:47:57 PM
Hello,

Nice game concept, but can you show proof of funds?

EDIT: NOT INSTANT WITHDRAWAL. Deposited some bits and made a withdrawal to test and i'm still waiting, and it was a small withdrawal.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: marlboroza on November 26, 2017, 08:26:56 PM
1) How do you determine the winner?
2) Correct me if I am wrong, but this is above 100%
https://i.imgur.com/sjgTpEY.png
What does this mean?
3) If I lose password how can I recover my account? There is lack of security(2fa, email verification etc)
4) Can you sign message to show us your bankroll?

Nice game concept
But why?
As I can see there is only 25% chance to double money.


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: jason.morgan5 on November 26, 2017, 09:06:49 PM
1) How do you determine the winner?
2) Correct me if I am wrong, but this is above 100%
https://i.imgur.com/sjgTpEY.png
What does this mean?
3) If I lose password how can I recover my account? There is lack of security(2fa, email verification etc)
4) Can you sign message to show us your bankroll?

Nice game concept
But why?
As I can see there is only 25% chance to double money.

Sorry, i didn't saw that lol. Yes, the payout must be 4x


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: niko454 on November 27, 2017, 09:05:46 AM
Hello,

Nice game concept, but can you show proof of funds?

EDIT: NOT INSTANT WITHDRAWAL. Deposited some bits and made a withdrawal to test and i'm still waiting, and it was a small withdrawal.

Thank you!

Hey! Thanks for trying out the game, did you still not receive your bits? Sorry about that. Also, what exactly would you like to see?


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: jason.morgan5 on November 27, 2017, 09:45:15 AM
Yes, i'm still waiting.. Please process my withdrawal!


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: Oilacris on November 27, 2017, 12:05:16 PM
1) How do you determine the winner?
2) Correct me if I am wrong, but this is above 100%
https://i.imgur.com/sjgTpEY.png
What does this mean?
3) If I lose password how can I recover my account? There is lack of security(2fa, email verification etc)
4) Can you sign message to show us your bankroll?

Nice game concept
But why?
As I can see there is only 25% chance to double money.
Even on registering new account it is not still polished yet since fonts arent placed on the middle or center.It isnt really appealing at all and im confused too on how this system is a nice concept? As you said it do have only 25% chance  on doubling money. They do only differ the number but odds is still obvious.I even have a doubt on its security.


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: marlboroza on November 27, 2017, 03:13:14 PM
I see that you have changed first post - it is not 2X payout anymore, now it is 4X.

Still you haven't answered me my questions:

Quote
1) How do you determine the winner?
3) If I lose password how can I recover my account? There is lack of security(2fa, email verification etc)
4) Can you sign message to show us your bankroll?

And now I have new questions.

There are 4 outcomes, payout is 4X which means house edge is 0%.
How do you plan to run this without house edge?

You said that players can "invest"
Quote
You can invest up to 100,000 bits in one round.
So, max win is 0.4BTC and for that you will need at least 40BTC in bankroll.
Do you have 40BTC?


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: niko454 on November 27, 2017, 11:58:59 PM
Yes, i'm still waiting.. Please process my withdrawal!

The withdrawal process is supposed to be instant, I apologize for this inconvenience. Could you send me the BTC address you are trying to withdraw to? The amount is 3200 bits correct?

P.S
I'd be happy to give you some free in-game bits in return for all the trouble.


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: niko454 on November 28, 2017, 12:07:20 AM
1) How do you determine the winner?
2) Correct me if I am wrong, but this is above 100%
https://i.imgur.com/sjgTpEY.png
What does this mean?
3) If I lose password how can I recover my account? There is lack of security(2fa, email verification etc)
4) Can you sign message to show us your bankroll?

Nice game concept
But why?
As I can see there is only 25% chance to double money.
Even on registering new account it is not still polished yet since fonts arent placed on the middle or center.It isnt really appealing at all and im confused too on how this system is a nice concept? As you said it do have only 25% chance  on doubling money. They do only differ the number but odds is still obvious.I even have a doubt on its security.

Not polished? What do you mean? Also, it's a 25% chance for a 4x return. Have you even played the game yet? Regarding security, what makes you doubt it? The site is secure against injection attacks, denial of service attacks, and more. You can pentest it if you would like.

Regarding your questions:
1) Each round, the winners are the people who choose the company that gets the highest percentage. Read the original post and look at the screenshot or play the game with free bits.
2) You are confused. You don't add the results up. The one that gets the highest percentage wins. Fedup won in that screenshot.
3) There is clearly a "Forgot Password" option.
4) I'll get proof of funds done shortly, however, keep in mind this is a brand new gambling site. While we have methods to ensure that nothing goes wrong, we don't have a ton of investors.

P.S

2FA sounds like a great idea and I'll add captchas to the registration/login process.


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: niko454 on November 28, 2017, 11:17:29 AM
i wait withdrawal  24 hours :@ :@
What do you mean? How many bits? Can you PM me the username you have on the site?


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: bering on November 28, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
your site looks very simple to me and the game too but 4x payout is quite high to trying but how to prove that your game have provably fair for each bets and if you have any plan to add chat menu i think this is will be more good but 600 bits for withdrawal fee still quite high for me


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: yogg on November 28, 2017, 01:04:52 PM
Why do we need to register to see what the game looks like ? :(

I didn't pass the registration form. Maybe one suggestion would be to add automated account creation but I guess you're not there yet ! :D

Good luck with your game. :)


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: marlboroza on November 28, 2017, 01:32:00 PM
Regarding your questions:
1) Each round, the winners are the people who choose the company that gets the highest percentage. Read the original post and look at the screenshot or play the game with free bits.
I'll rephrase my question. How game choose which company will have highest percentage?
Quote
4) I'll get proof of funds done shortly, however, keep in mind this is a brand new gambling site. While we have methods to ensure that nothing goes wrong, we don't have a ton of investors.
What do you mean by this? How much winnings can you cover? As I can see max win is 0.4BTC.

Also this:
Quote
There are 4 outcomes, payout is 4X which means house edge is 0%.
How do you plan to run this without house edge?


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: lite on November 28, 2017, 04:13:46 PM
I'd like to suggest few things.
provide a guide/way to verify the bets.
reduce minimum bet amount, so those wanting to try out bitstock can bet more than once with a single claim/increase faucet amount.
a new design maybe?


Title: Re: Bitstock.pw | A new bitcoin gambling game
Post by: piloder on November 28, 2017, 04:50:38 PM
There are few things I would like to suggest

- improve user interface and also allow others to view how game looks like before registration.
- Are results provably fair? Can't find info on how to verify each and every results.
- If games are not provably fair than there is no point on wasting our bits in this. Results can easily be rigged..