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Title: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: MWNinja on July 03, 2013, 07:59:38 PM As you may or may not know we're currently shipping BeagleBone Black based mining hosts, the MineNinja.
I'm considering developing an add-on board for the BeagleBone (known as a "cape" in Beagleease) that would contain 4 BFL ASICs. It would use the BeagleBone to control the ASICs via SPI, and would also run MineNinja, so it would be a turn-key, no host needed mining solution. Realistically we would be able to get these built and be ready to ship at the beginning of October. Pricing for the complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000, depending on how many units are committed for the first run. Any interest? Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: jelin1984 on July 03, 2013, 08:01:33 PM Price without chips how it will cost? Where you located
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: Paladin69 on July 03, 2013, 08:19:32 PM I have 1152 chip codes to sell if you need them.
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: rustyh17 on July 03, 2013, 08:30:35 PM 100% interested. Have A LOT of chip codes to provide group buy aggregate savings.
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: dentldir on July 03, 2013, 08:35:46 PM Interested. Being able to apply our own BFL chip codes towards a unit would be a big plus.
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: crazyates on July 03, 2013, 09:28:21 PM Pricing for the complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000, depending on how many units are committed for the first run. For $500? Yep! For $1000? Mmmm not so much.Any interest? And yes, as other have asked, will there be a discount for supplying our own chips? Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: whitefeather on July 03, 2013, 10:35:20 PM $1000 for 16 GH/s Complete turnkey? You supply the chips? October delivery?
If yes to the three questions, then I am definitely interested in multiple units. A slip in delivery beyond October will most likely be a deal breaker. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: MWNinja on July 03, 2013, 11:26:26 PM Price without chips how it will cost? Where you located We're in the USA, you would be able to take $200 off for supplying your own chips (if we make that an option). It's logistically a pain though. Chip credits would be accepted (up to the number of chips required to fill your order). At QTY 100 its looking like it would cost $900 At QTY 1000 we can get down to $650 Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: jelin1984 on July 03, 2013, 11:27:49 PM Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: allinvain on July 04, 2013, 12:35:54 AM Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass Who is this lucko guy and do you have a link to his thread (if any)? Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: MWNinja on July 04, 2013, 12:58:25 AM Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design. That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either. And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out. This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: Bitcoinorama on July 04, 2013, 01:29:49 AM Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design. That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either. And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out. This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules. Vapour chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules, yet your own project depends on Butterfly Labs' ability to deliver your bulk chips on time!? Ohhhkay...good luck with that!! ::) Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: MWNinja on July 04, 2013, 02:29:24 AM Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design. That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either. And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out. This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules. Vapour chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules, yet your own project depends on Butterfly Labs' ability to deliver your bulk chips on time!? Ohhhkay...good luck with that!! ::) Global foundries meeting their delivery schedule isn't the biggest risk by a long shot. Getting a functional PCB and integrating a finished product isn't a trivial endeavor by any means. We have some serious competitive advantages with our design where the miner software has direct SPI access to the ASICs, so I expect we will squeeze out even more performance than the reference design. Plus we will have adjustable clocks and voltages in our design. Honestly even if BFL delivered the chips tomorrow we would still be looking at October delivery. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: frankenmint on July 04, 2013, 02:41:03 AM I'd be interested in the units if they were like 6-700 bucks for the advertised 16 gh/s. What is the projected chip size in nm? Will there be a power supply or opt out option available? Will this ship from within the USA?
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: whitefeather on July 04, 2013, 05:44:50 PM And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules. Not this guy. Inform me of your milestones, release periodic updates, talk about anticipated risks, tell me about the issues when those risks materialize, succinctly articulate any schedule slips along with a brief explanation, and ultimately deliver the product. I don't need any fancy pictures, or unrealistic stakes on the ground, BFL-style drama, just some good old fashioned honest business talk and product. Reiterating I am interested in acquiring multiple 16 GHs units at your 1K price. I saw 900 somewhere on the thread. That's obviously good too. Make it happen. Best of luck. I will be waiting. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: k9quaint on July 04, 2013, 06:20:26 PM When you have something that is 100% functional and available to ship, I would consider it.
I would keep the price as low as possible. A lot of people will want to kick the tires before committing to any purchases. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: rammy2k2 on July 04, 2013, 06:27:50 PM When you have something that is 100% functional and available to ship, I would consider it. I would keep the price as low as possible. A lot of people will want to kick the tires before committing to any purchases. this Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: -Redacted- on July 04, 2013, 06:56:22 PM And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules. Not this guy. Inform me of your milestones, release periodic updates, talk about anticipated risks, tell me about the issues when those risks materialize, succinctly articulate any schedule slips along with a brief explanation, and ultimately deliver the product. I don't need any fancy pictures, or unrealistic stakes on the ground, BFL-style drama, just some good old fashioned honest business talk and product. Reiterating I am interested in acquiring multiple 16 GHs units at your 1K price. I saw 900 somewhere on the thread. That's obviously good too. Make it happen. Best of luck. I will be waiting. This. I have cash looking for a product that isn't just vapor - lots of cash. But no more pre-orders for me, period. Show me the Gh/s. See Burnin's thread for what I would consider good communication through the development process... Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: Bitcoinorama on July 04, 2013, 07:18:49 PM The guy's more than capable at programming he's made quite a sweet looking Eruptor Beagle board miner, but PCB and chip assembly is an unknown, plus anything remotely connected to BFL is considered extremely risky...
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: notlist3d on July 04, 2013, 07:21:52 PM I would love to see it. If you can get one working atm you could sell all day for 500 and quite a few at 1000. At 500 depending on timeline could be great. I wont blame you for BFL's faults. Personally would love thier chip to take off in devices.
Again all depends on when final product is done and can deliver. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: nexus99 on July 04, 2013, 07:23:12 PM There will be great general interest around the product when it is available for purchase.
The comparison will be 375 bucks for a 2 chip BFL that is running 8 Gh/s. If you can do a 4 chip solution running 16 Gh/s for 500 bucks you will sell more than you can make. At 1000 bucks you wont sell any. (BFL will catch up with orders one day...) Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: Bicknellski on July 04, 2013, 07:23:48 PM The guy's more than capable at programming he's made quite a sweet looking Eruptor Beagle board miner, but PCB and chip assembly is an unknown, plus anything remotely connected to BFL is considered extremely risky... Too bad can't get some Bitfury chips in that. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: CanaryInTheMine on July 04, 2013, 09:12:22 PM As you may or may not know we're currently shipping BeagleBone Black based mining hosts, the MineNinja. interested. i have 3500 chips ordered. where are you located? oh wait, you participated in my group buys, right? ;DI'm considering developing an add-on board for the BeagleBone (known as a "cape" in Beagleease) that would contain 4 BFL ASICs. It would use the BeagleBone to control the ASICs via SPI, and would also run MineNinja, so it would be a turn-key, no host needed mining solution. Realistically we would be able to get these built and be ready to ship at the beginning of October. Pricing for the complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000, depending on how many units are committed for the first run. Any interest? Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: cp1 on July 04, 2013, 09:27:18 PM Let us know when they're in stock.
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: Loredo on July 04, 2013, 10:42:05 PM developing an add-on board for the BeagleBone (known as a "cape" in Beagleease) that would contain 4 BFL ASICs. ... complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000 Proceeding as follows,4 BFL chips = 16GH (+ to overclock, - to chip binning quality), Midpoint of your complete system estimate = $750 (let's go ahead and put chip cost in there, being liberal), cost per GH between $40 and $50. Might be a little pricey by October? If Avalon ships, the Klondike boards are quite less than that, no? Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: MWNinja on July 04, 2013, 11:19:23 PM Back of the napkin (literally!) design. We need to work out some more details, but I am very interested in working with CanaryInTheMine's group buy.
https://i.imgur.com/czl2Bu9.jpg Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: thegoldbug on July 05, 2013, 02:24:33 AM I too would be interested in a couple of complete turnkey systems in the $500 to $750 range (depending upon delivery date).
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: nwfella on July 05, 2013, 08:17:06 AM Watching with great interest. Currently involved in CanaryInTheMine's BFL chip group buy
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: rustyh17 on July 05, 2013, 02:33:22 PM Back of the napkin (literally!) design. We need to work out some more details, but I am very interested in working with CanaryInTheMine's group buy. https://i.imgur.com/czl2Bu9.jpg Heat transfer engineer here interested in designing the fan/radiator/water cooling portion of the system. Keep us in mind. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: notlist3d on July 05, 2013, 02:37:18 PM Love napkin sketch :)
On serious not would love to see Canary and Beagle team up and get this up and going. +1 for that idea Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: Bicknellski on July 05, 2013, 04:43:11 PM The guy's more than capable at programming he's made quite a sweet looking Eruptor Beagle board miner, but PCB and chip assembly is an unknown, plus anything remotely connected to BFL is considered extremely risky... Too bad can't get some Bitfury chips in that. Well I guess I spoke way too soon... you can get BitFury chips and guess what... you can get some in August. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: MWNinja on July 05, 2013, 06:49:18 PM The guy's more than capable at programming he's made quite a sweet looking Eruptor Beagle board miner, but PCB and chip assembly is an unknown, plus anything remotely connected to BFL is considered extremely risky... Too bad can't get some Bitfury chips in that. Well I guess I spoke way too soon... you can get BitFury chips and guess what... you can get some in August. We will also explore that option. We're not married to any single chip vendor, instead we just want to bring the nicest turn-key miners to market. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: Swimmer63 on July 05, 2013, 11:00:36 PM Very interested. But it's all about delivery day and cost per Gh/s. Show me the plans.
Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: smscotten on August 06, 2013, 07:59:23 AM Very very interested, if anyone is still following this thread. I'd have to take the "roof" off my BeagleBone but that's a sacrifice I'd be more than happy to make.
(Sorry, I bought my BBB (http://splicer.com/gallery/miner) from Adafruit, but I still think the MineNinja is awesome. I'm considering getting a MineNinja and tasking my current BBB with non-mining-related stuff.) Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: pyra-proxy on October 11, 2013, 08:48:18 AM The guy's more than capable at programming he's made quite a sweet looking Eruptor Beagle board miner, but PCB and chip assembly is an unknown, plus anything remotely connected to BFL is considered extremely risky... Too bad can't get some Bitfury chips in that. Well I guess I spoke way too soon... you can get BitFury chips and guess what... you can get some in August. We will also explore that option. We're not married to any single chip vendor, instead we just want to bring the nicest turn-key miners to market. I'd definently be interested in a bit fury cape. Title: Re: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check Post by: r3animation on October 11, 2013, 08:54:50 AM Wow, thread digger.
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