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Other => Beginners & Help => Topic started by: XRcode on July 01, 2011, 05:15:55 AM



Title: The price of the bitcoin
Post by: XRcode on July 01, 2011, 05:15:55 AM
Since I have started mining a few weeks ago, I have noticed the prices are pretty rocky, although reasonable... they were higher before.
Every time the difficulty increases, we mine a smaller amount of coins, for the same electricity costs.
It is taking a heavier and heavier hardware and electricity investments to mine a steady flow of coins.
I think we should all think about just how valuable our coins are and stop selling them for 15$ and prices like that.
Really, I think we shouldn't be selling any BTC for anything less then 20-25$.. and the price of the BTC should go up when it gets more expensive for us to mine.
I think Bitcoins can do very well, but they need to keep climbing in value in order to scale to a large enough economy size.

There is nothing wrong with the amount of Bitcoins that will be created, for once we have a clear understanding of how much of a certain currency their is.
I could imagine bitcoins being worth 10 million dollars each one day, but since you can break a bitcoin in to ten million peices... maybe a .00000001 of a bitcoin could buy us a pop one day.  :)

I think that it basically comes down to how we value the currency amongst ourselves... If you take the dollar, we have what? trilions and trillions of those?
When you look at it that way, it makes sense to value a bitcoin at more like 1000, or 10000$

Lets help it get there! :D


Title: Re: The price of the bitcoin
Post by: Slab Squathrust on July 01, 2011, 05:26:06 AM
Welcome to the free market, and good luck forming your cartel.  Game theory would predict that it is impossible to get all miners to collude on the price. Also, I would avoid getting trapped in the sunk costs fallacy.  People keep adding hardware in hopes of generating more coins even as the difficulty increases.  Its a good way to throw away a lot of money.  It just becomes a race to the bottom.  You have to analyze when mining becomes unprofitable for you.  Some corporations take a loss in expectation of future profits.  If you fell comfortable with the risk, then do this.  If not then you should stop mining until it becomes profitable again. 


Title: Re: The price of the bitcoin
Post by: DiamondPlus on July 01, 2011, 05:29:30 AM
I sold around 280 Bitcoins at 30$ per,

Re bought another 600 at 13$

Things are going well.


Title: Re: The price of the bitcoin
Post by: XRcode on July 01, 2011, 05:58:42 AM
Yes I agree, I think that bitcoin will be a great thing for us but we need to get alot more places accepting it.
I am doing something to help inform the locals in my area about it, and I of course will be offering services in bitcoin.

Mining for me is just something I can do with all my extra hardware, I haven't invested anything in mining yet although I have been considering expanding my mining operation.
Basically what I want to see is bitcoin accepted everywhere.... Well there are alot of people in there world, in order for the 21 million coins that will be made over time to be enough for all of us, they need to be of sufficient value that having very few ( or even less then one ) could be of use.

I think it will get there eventually if we all continue on not just mining bitcoins, but spreading the word to people that dont know about it and trying to get more places accepting it as payment


Title: Re: The price of the bitcoin
Post by: JoelKatz on July 01, 2011, 07:49:21 AM
I think we should all think about just how valuable our coins are and stop selling them for 15$ and prices like that.
Really, I think we shouldn't be selling any BTC for anything less then 20-25$.. and the price of the BTC should go up when it gets more expensive for us to mine.
That won't work. If people stop selling bitcoins for their fair market value, people won't be able to get bitcoins and so won't use them to buy stuff. This will prevent the bitcoin economy from growing, which is what bitcoins need more than anything. What is needed is a higher trading volume. Any attempt to lower the volume will create the illusion of value -- bitcoins may appear to go up a bit in price but will drop catastrophically as soon as anyone tries to sell any significant number of them.


Title: Re: The price of the bitcoin
Post by: mystery2048 on July 01, 2011, 09:27:36 AM
Wrong... if people cant buy bitcoins for their "fair" market price... they will simply find a better way to get them, such as working for them, begging, or mining the things their damned selves... This will reduce demand, forcing the prices down or people wont be able to sell them at all except to the few extremely gullible...