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Title: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Yawn85 on December 02, 2017, 02:11:01 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: crypto_bit on December 02, 2017, 02:19:12 PM
I think ICOs tokens keep its values as long as bubble (or fast increasing demand, choose what you want :) ) on BTC and in general cryptocurrencies lasts. I would not give any dates nor estimations based on expected roadmaps, because BTC and only BTC provides propitious market for alts.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Lingqingyi on December 02, 2017, 02:33:29 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Thanasis on December 02, 2017, 02:35:13 PM

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

The ICO investment will give us huge profits in short term but as you said many of the ICO projects are failed that is due to not enough effort from the development if someone need to keep their coin alive they must have proper development and good contact support for the investors which will give their project to succeed and the investors also will get profited.But most of the ICO founders starting the project for just earning money then they leave their project stranded after got enough money so we need to invest on good ICO for earning profits.
The BTC and ETH investment need to be long term then only we can earn good profits but in this investment the risk is very less when compared to ICO investment so many people are investing on bitcoin and ethereum.So many of the unsuccessful coins may become extinct in some years or as you said by 2019.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Aenk on December 02, 2017, 02:36:40 PM
The bad projects which do not deliver anything will die, rest will survive


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: fudufaffa on December 02, 2017, 02:36:52 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.
i agree. the valuation of altcoins reminds me of .net bubble. at first there will be a big crash, then 99% will die and 1% will prosper.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Usui-Chan on December 02, 2017, 02:39:52 PM
Bitcoin's value is still rising which pretty much the altcoins depend on, but I think it has gained so much popularity and recognition that I don't think it will blow up like it did this year that's why I hope and I think that more altcoins will resurface and a variety of coins will be available to the market so that there will be variations of cryptocurrencies to use.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: uylvlprx on December 02, 2017, 02:43:21 PM
Most altcoin will die because we do not use it in our daily lives and it's purely a financial game. Of course, we can also profit from ICO.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: coingrow on December 02, 2017, 02:43:51 PM
The end has already begun. It started with diminishing investment in Initial coin offerings. Most of the alts are doing terrible and its just not the end of a short term market cycle this time, the alts have had its rosy days and now its the end of full market cycle for sure.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on December 02, 2017, 02:44:20 PM
maybe not 90% but a lot of them will end in a couple of months, it won't even take a year. and it is nothing new. there has been lots of altcoins created nearly every day for the past couple of years and most of them are completely dead now.
there are coins that are listed on some shit-exchanges and they don't even have a blockchain. some of them have blocks which were mined 4 months ago.

i'd even go as far as calling it a natural thing, where something that is never used apart from speculation and pump and dump, eventually ends up dying.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: PMmesexycoins on December 02, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
I don't think so, I believe people will keep trying. Even more than they are now at that. So long there's a chance at all that is.

When almost anyone can do it, almost everyone is bound to consider giving it a try.

And there should always be room for legitimate projects anyway.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Hannahanto on December 02, 2017, 03:00:01 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?
Its like a game. Many teams participate in a tournament, filtration starts and ends with a win to a team.  There is no end for teams. Teams keep forming themselves. Likewise, here, many ICOs do fail to meet the challenges but some do meet. So new ICOs will keep forming as long as bitcoin and other top crypto currencies drawing investers into. So no end to new altcoins. The best service they provide to the market the best place they conqure.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: lepricoin on December 02, 2017, 03:00:44 PM
I think, yes, investors need to grow wiser. Careful to invest and interest should decrease, and the number of adequate ISO is reduced every year.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: khoaivoz198 on December 02, 2017, 03:01:30 PM
Seriously i don't think so. Blockchain technology is getting faster, so there will be more altcoins with faster way of payment, mining or trading.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Vigme86 on December 02, 2017, 03:02:14 PM
Usually it's said 95% of who try to make trading will be excluded.
I think with altcoins is kind of the same. There are some good projects like Bitcore, Waves, Deep Onion, Ark, etc., but the most of altcoins or token are just scam.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: bitcoin.podcast on December 02, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
Usually it's said 95% of who try to make trading will be excluded.
I think with altcoins is kind of the same. There are some good projects like Bitcore, Waves, Deep Onion, Ark, etc., but the most of altcoins or token are just scam.

These good projects will remain. And everyone else will just die. Maybe it's good. Scammers should be punished, and their projects closed


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: DevelopmentBank on December 02, 2017, 03:23:28 PM
Most of the ICOs i see on a daily basis are comprised of immature development teams that have long since been working from their parent's basement. I am bearish on the whole ICO scene espeically cum 2019. We may see some short term gains because of all the hype and pumps but nevertheless, it may all fall down. The sure thing tho will be that Bitcoin will last. So make sure you also keep some in pure BTC value.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: palapeseta on December 02, 2017, 03:30:31 PM

No need to wait until 2019, in 2018 many of the altcoin and tokens will have disappeared.
Positive: the remaining 10%


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: acallopssstonished on December 02, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
Nah I think alot of the projects will live for quite some time but it will be zoombie projects. Many projects are lead by coders with a good idea. Nothing wrong with that but I see quite a high cashburn for some projects which is not viable.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: marks1976 on December 02, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
No need wait very long time to see some altcoin gets died. every day some ico were born and another will die. This just like a complete ecosystem to filter how is the best ico project in this time. Those icos are not doing the development properly will die asap.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: bayudndy on December 02, 2017, 03:36:48 PM
i think altcoin still exist if most people interest to speculating them, if they all know altcoin just speculating they will be leave it. And altcoin will die
sorry for my bad english


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: beachbummer on December 02, 2017, 03:38:31 PM

No need to wait until 2019, in 2018 many of the altcoin and tokens will have disappeared.
Positive: the remaining 10%

Agreed. Too many scam ICOs and lousy altcoins and the investing/mining community would have become more discerning.

The suckers would have lost their money and the scammers would have already made their bundle by then.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Tosyn2 on December 02, 2017, 03:43:49 PM
Seriously, i can't really argue this with you because a lot of this ico and team don't really have plan to develop them. So i wouldn't be surprised if that happens.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Ribad on December 02, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
Yeah most of the altcoin will probably go out of steem as most of the coins available are speculations with no product to deliver. A coin need a tech dev and community to survive and marketing to pump.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Jaya912 on December 02, 2017, 03:55:52 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.

2020 is still too long to discuss about altcoin or ico project. maybe just discuss next year first what will happen.
 i was thinking if ico continue fall down while they are listed in market, it will make believe of ico decrease and that is the bad impact. i am so worry about that.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: webtricks on December 02, 2017, 03:57:34 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

No doubt, the number of ICOs launching has crossed limits and most of the new coins have such fantasy visions which can never be brought to ground even with hundreds of millions of investment.
But it is wrong to predict that all altcoins will sail in single boat and fall in the deep chasm. I see every month at least 2-3 projects do launch showing great potential and utility, like VLB and IndaHash at the moment. So till 2019, I predict there will be over 3K coins on CoinMarketCap, mostly shitty but we will have at least 200 coins having much more worth than they have today! So start picking right coins from now, BTC and ETH are not only possibilities. There are still loads of coins which can give you 10-20x profits.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Hrin on December 02, 2017, 03:58:31 PM
The fundamentals of business do not change. 95% of startups fail for many reasons. ICOs are no different - they are based on the same business rules. It should come as no surprise that 95% of ICOs will fail - no need to wait for 2019 or 2018, it is happening even as we speak. Which is why it is always good to diversify - even if you picked the top 100 ICOs to invest in, even if 95% of them fail, that 5% would have increased by 1000s% which would still provide you with good enough profits to cover the projects you picked that failed.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: ModaFuka1994 on December 02, 2017, 04:00:48 PM
I don't think so :)). The number of altcoin is increasing day by day so I think until 2019 the number of altcoin on the cryptocurrency market will be doubled or maybe tripled than at the moment, for now there are about more than 1300 altcoin that mean in 2019 it'll be 2600 or more than 3000 altcoins :)). I also agree that there are a lot of trash altcoins but also a lot of good altcoins are there so I think in 2019 is not the time for ending of 90% of altcoin :D


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Bastime on December 02, 2017, 04:00:52 PM
I think the same way but not particularly in 2019 because of the lack of regulations for ICOs today. We have already a thousand Crypto-Currencies in the world and soon there's more to come so the volume of Cyrpto-Currencies are too many and the competition is very tough so I think soon enough some ICOs will be vanished and the Top Altcoins will remain as the official Crypto-Currency of the world.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Singbatak on December 02, 2017, 04:01:00 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

Because of the ongoing spread of the ICO scam it is certain that there will be no interest in joining the ICO. So it's possible that this happens so in the year 2019 there will be a lot of changes. Bitcoins can increase the price even more, Many stores will accept it. And companies will make the payment option for bitcoins for their services. So it will have a big impact on us.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Bastime on December 02, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
I don't think so :)). The number of altcoin is increasing day by day so I think until 2019 the number of altcoin on the cryptocurrency market will be doubled or maybe tripled than at the moment, for now there are about more than 1300 altcoin that mean in 2019 it'll be 2600 or more than 3000 altcoins :)). I also agree that there are a lot of trash altcoins but also a lot of good altcoins are there so I think in 2019 is not the time for ending of 90% of altcoin :D

Actually, It's hard to conclude that most ICOs should not be in  the wild today but people would like to make their own flavor of projects that will focus on a specific field.
ICOs should be regulated but seems it's very hard  to implement due to very limited jurisdictions of states and governments although some countries are already regulated ICOs or even banning Bitcoin, ICOs will soon be eliminated and time will come that only the Top Crypto-Currencies will stay because people would love to invest and use it when it is proven useful anyway.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: GetOutOfMyLife on December 02, 2017, 04:06:32 PM
 Nope, ICO is new and all most of them seem as like alt coin. Many ICO like scam and HYIP. For me, Altcoin not shitcoin. I only and always using stable "altcoin" like ETH, LTC, XMR, ETC, DOGE, DASH... And i believe they never ending before any ICO coin. I am sure some lending coin ICO will scam soon xD.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: mondobitcoin on December 02, 2017, 04:06:56 PM
Yes in the 2017 we have seen a lot of new ICO, and a lot of them are fake or scam
Of course the scam tokens will die soon, but big and real projects have a big future
We only need to choice the right ICO , see the roadmap, read the whitepaper and read about the team before investing


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Bastime on December 02, 2017, 04:06:59 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

Because of the ongoing spread of the ICO scam it is certain that there will be no interest in joining the ICO. So it's possible that this happens so in the year 2019 there will be a lot of changes. Bitcoins can increase the price even more, Many stores will accept it. And companies will make the payment option for bitcoins for their services. So it will have a big impact on us.

I agree, the ICO competition is getting more complicated and more difficult to invite investors because the projects are actually almost the same. So if ICOs will not be regulated then time will come that there would be no ICOs are created instead we'll support the existing Currencies that has been already proven their effectiveness.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Bastime on December 02, 2017, 04:14:03 PM
Nope, ICO is new and all most of them seem as like alt coin. Many ICO like scam and HYIP. For me, Altcoin not shitcoin. I only and always using stable "altcoin" like ETH, LTC, XMR, ETC, DOGE, DASH... And i believe they never ending before any ICO coin. I am sure some lending coin ICO will scam soon xD.

I presume that even there's a lot of ICOs going on in the wild but still there are also more effective projects hasn't yet launched.
The team core will be possibly overcome and able to compete existing Crypto-Currencies. I even found out in some social media that they are promoting their project with full effort and the community itself are growing.
For me, the community is the best criteria of being an effective project because people would like to support all the way.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: adsdas on December 02, 2017, 04:14:53 PM
No, I dont think so. Although many people use ICOs to cheat money from investors, I don't think 90% altcoins will die. That's a wrong prediction


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Ailmand on December 02, 2017, 04:24:22 PM

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

The ICO investment will give us huge profits in short term but as you said many of the ICO projects are failed that is due to not enough effort from the development if someone need to keep their coin alive they must have proper development and good contact support for the investors which will give their project to succeed and the investors also will get profited.But most of the ICO founders starting the project for just earning money then they leave their project stranded after got enough money so we need to invest on good ICO for earning profits.
The BTC and ETH investment need to be long term then only we can earn good profits but in this investment the risk is very less when compared to ICO investment so many people are investing on bitcoin and ethereum.So many of the unsuccessful coins may become extinct in some years or as you said by 2019.

I think not all altcoins would disappear. There are still some strong altcoins amongst a bunch of altcoins available now like Eth and Waves to name a few. ICO, on the other hand, has been really bad because most people are focused on bitcoin now because of its soaring price. That is why altcoins right now doesn't get that much attention.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: leea-1334 on December 02, 2017, 04:25:36 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

I cannot find the threads but I remember when I first came to this forum, a lot of talks was going on about the death of ICOs from 2016 and the death of alts related to them. But here we are now about to close the year and we are nowhere near the death of anything.

We have in the top 100 coins more than half born from ICO projects, including ETH of course. But yes, we are expecting incredible amounts of prototypes and finished products by 2018, with even more scheduled for 2019. Billions of ICO funding already raised, so expectations are very high. We can expect a lot of promises to be broken. Then a lot of investors will be burnt MORE than they already are this year.

Will people learn? HYIPs say "there are new idiots born every minute".


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: ePesoInitiative on December 02, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
Most altcoin will die because we do not use it in our daily lives and it's purely a financial game. Of course, we can also profit from ICO.

Damm that Dogecoin that's refusing to die. It should be renamed Zombie coin since it keeps rising up again seasonally. But look at that Dash rally, it's dead alright.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: HomoHenning on December 02, 2017, 04:40:34 PM
they will slowly die... I know some ICOs from this year or last year which are already dead...


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: NeonXL on December 02, 2017, 04:40:44 PM
Today alcoin industry seems like bitcoin childhoood - low cap, low identity. But I think that industy will grow, so 2019 will be BEGINNING for altcoin era, there are lot ICOs now, only the strongest survive.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: xiaohang07 on December 02, 2017, 05:05:25 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.
BTC will probably become an altcoin in a few years, since its main value right now is speculation, to be honest.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: treather on December 02, 2017, 05:10:44 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.
BTC will probably become an altcoin in a few years, since its main value right now is speculation, to be honest.


Bitcoin will never be an Alt, it may lose value and other coins may overtake its price, but it will always be a trailblazer and record setter. Without bitcoin in its current form, there will be no cryptocurrency market, and we won't be year trying to speculate.

That said, a lot of ICO's, I predict over 90% will fail. I fear for investors, those who spread their risk will be fine, some will be lucky, a lot will lose.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: ajqjjj on December 02, 2017, 05:14:32 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.
BTC will probably become an altcoin in a few years, since its main value right now is speculation, to be honest.

Oh really you seems worst ICO preacher here. Whatever the altcoins comes in the market you would see the other coins in the platform bitcoin. If you check the coinmarketcap you will find the all the altcoins in ethereum platform only buddy. None of the altcoins will not be touch the scratch of bitcoin in the technology.
Because of bitcoin and satoshi only you guys are seeing the all the altcoins now in the market so anytime under estimate the bitcoin and keep it mind always.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: cryptofuturologist on December 02, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
It seems to me that 50 percent of alternative coins will die in 2018. They already look very bad now. People now believe only bitcoin, because its price is growing rapidly


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Altrader on December 02, 2017, 05:35:19 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

ICO and altcoins are one of many way to increase our Bitcoin and ethereum,
so, i think its depends on people demands on cryptocurrency


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Faroxx on December 02, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
It seems to me that most of the coins will be die just because they are useless.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: tororoshka on December 02, 2017, 05:56:27 PM
And I was so hoping that we are at the beginning of the development of cryptocurrencies. :( But I agree with you, if the coin developers do not follow their road map and do not fulfill their obligation, then the future of such a coin is death.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: cellard on December 02, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
It's just a matter of time, but I think we are too early yet to see any kind of mega bursts of the cryptocurrency market as a whole:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJA3r3VXgAARa29.jpg

We would need to grow several orders of magnitudes for me to start being worried about a real bubble burst. The real good news is, Bitcoin is the Amazon of crypto, meaning that it will make higher highs after the overall market crash. In fact, it may absorb all the bubbled money on altcoins like we've seen before, but multiplied by x1000. By then LN will be operative and getting funds out of other coins and into BTC will be trivial, fast and cheap. BTC is hitting 6 figures during the next decade, it's pretty obvious at this point.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: kopijos on December 02, 2017, 06:02:52 PM
I think in 2019 altcoin could have ended or it might have gotten better, but it seems that if it ends it is certain because altcoin in the future can be less attractive. this is just my opinion   ;D


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: albermaze on December 02, 2017, 06:05:19 PM
So you mean that it is worthless to invest in ICO's as 90% of all projects will fail to deliver their product. I've just started to look into this market... and it looks like too late?


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: yanto@1977 on December 02, 2017, 06:09:42 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

I don't know when altcoin end, but if 2019 ended ( maybe ) I have enough fund to start a new way created another income, so nothing to worry about it ( for me ). My strategy is keep collect btc & eth and grow up it with trading/ investment way. I never invest to ICO because I need more time to see they survive. I suggest keep away from invest with ICO just join the bounty program to get it with free. Have a nice day.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Oakey22 on December 02, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
we will see a lot of coins die off this year, all the ones who can show no progress or working product will begin to die. The big powerhouse coins will be able to survive though


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Febo on December 02, 2017, 06:50:01 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

99% of ICOs are not altcoins, but they are tokens. Many ICO organizers will have legal problems soon. Those that gathered lots of money will of course easily pay penalties. those with little money will have serious problems.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: wRexz on December 02, 2017, 07:14:35 PM
It will not happen, if cryptocurrency still one of the promising business based on blockchain. We can see many new cryptocurrency grow  so fast, even we can not think how many newly token or cryptocoin born everyday, this means so many company see crypto world the fastest way to grow our business.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Triple on December 02, 2017, 07:21:10 PM
Yes, definitely. The next two years are very important for the future of alt-coins and bitcoin in general. There will be a lot more people that will become more knowledgeable about the crypto currency world and I think most of the trash/scam altcoins will die out. Only a select few that actually adds value and tackles the problems that bitcoins have will have people that will continue to invest in them.

Nows the perfect time to get in. A lot of money can be made, but the same amount can be lost. Just be careful and know the next couple years will shape the future of crypo currencies.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: ImHash on December 02, 2017, 07:58:50 PM
Which one of these ICO's ever delivered at all? :D Almost 99% of all the ICO's have no real project or a real product to show to the investors, Only thing people are looking for by investing on these ICO's is having the chance to dump on exchanges for profit. I've done the same thing over4 and over, And I'm sure that the only people buying them back from investors are the same development teams. But where these profits come from? After bitcoin I'm sure governments will crack down on ICO's one by one or all of them at once and then they will go away.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: sebastianpenguen on December 02, 2017, 08:02:39 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

Some of the coins existed in 2017 already died because their teams were not solid ones and they couldn't resist the pressure.

I agree with you, lots of them will die in 2018, 2019 and 2020. The result will be disappointing.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Raist on December 02, 2017, 08:39:11 PM
It's just a matter of time, but I think we are too early yet to see any kind of mega bursts of the cryptocurrency market as a whole:
We would need to grow several orders of magnitudes for me to start being worried about a real bubble burst. The real good news is, Bitcoin is the Amazon of crypto, meaning that it will make higher highs after the overall market crash. In fact, it may absorb all the bubbled money on altcoins like we've seen before, but multiplied by x1000. By then LN will be operative and getting funds out of other coins and into BTC will be trivial, fast and cheap. BTC is hitting 6 figures during the next decade, it's pretty obvious at this point.
Yep still it took about 10 years for IBM, Apple and Amazon to regain the price of their stocks. But we are well far from the red line with cryptomarket. Also I think that although BTC (with 2-3 other leaders of the market) will absorb value of alts after the "crash" it will not multiply them 'cause to that timeline they all will be overpriced.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: RobbieDK on December 02, 2017, 08:43:22 PM
At some point people will turn their back to the most altcoins and invest in the long term projects. Like the  top20 and some hard working smaller projects. For now it is one happy family, but at some point only the strongest will survive.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: bountyjunkie on December 02, 2017, 08:48:32 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

I guess we don't need to predict 2019. Watch 2018, that will give answers. Shit coins gonna die, greedy investors gonna die. Market would be healthy. Cheers!


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: salterious on December 02, 2017, 08:49:27 PM
No I don't think it is the end of 90% of altcoins by that time. I think that most will not be worth much but when new investors enter the scene they are looking for coins to get into which could mean pump for useless coins. I think we witnessed that in the bull run earlier this year so I don't rule it out if massive mainstream growth happens and the industry 10x in a year again.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: sorrysteve1 on December 02, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

It's true that in time this will happen as some projects can't deliver on their promises or just do not find that they are as popular as they expected they would be. With regard to investors I think ICOs will always be popular as long as investors can profit. In time investors will probably have to be more select with which projects they choose but they will also probably be more knowledgeable and better able to pick good projects. If this is the case we will in turn have less poor projects as they won't raise any money.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: GayOfThrones on December 02, 2017, 09:55:14 PM
This will be a very interesting discovery to come -   which percentage of icon projects are just scams or bad projects which will not deliver what promised? In 2019 investors will be more careful.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Shenzou on December 02, 2017, 10:08:50 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?
Unlike what most people think ICO tokens are not altcoins, they are simply currencies made based on the ethereum network that developers and project owners use to promote thier projects and to get a kickstarter on the projects, by selling these they get enough money just selling their ideas while others use them as if they were ethereum, this idea has ahd a masive success over the past few months and definetly had an impact not only on the ethereum but also on the other cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: OLDARH on December 02, 2017, 10:36:12 PM
It seems to me everything will depend on the possible changes in listing rules on the exchanges.
If everything remains the same, it is likely that the number of new altcoys will continue to grow, since issuing a new coin and making information around it is much easier and more profitable than huipit old coins that have long lost value.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: on December 02, 2017, 10:37:37 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.

And to a certain extent so is bitcoin's value right? Stock value etc? All based on speculation.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: hugeblack on December 02, 2017, 10:59:36 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

yes, right by the end of 2019 most of altcoins (80%-92%) will end Because

1) Bitcoin price: price of bitcoin will be more than 20,000$ to 60,000$.

2) ETH price: ETH will be POS coin and price pumped 2000$-6000$.

3) BCH price: price of bitcoin cash will increase next three years and maybe best altcoin of bitcoin (10,000$-20,000$).

4) LTC: litecoin will be last 3rd altcoin and all other altcoins will end (2,000$-8,000$)


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: teddyelwyn on December 02, 2017, 11:49:49 PM
I think only good, rock solid ideas and projects will stick around. IMO that would be ico's like polymath. They're bridging the gap between financial securities and blockchain. That industry in itself is work millions if not trillions.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: hgmarral on December 03, 2017, 12:18:02 AM
I agree with the opening post that 2019 is an interesting time frame to watch. I think mass hype etc can only sustain itself for a limited amount of time. Expectations of ICO projects will increase as time goes on and the price will reflect their progress. Teams will come under even more scrutiny as times goes on, putting more pressure on their coin price.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: SeDz on December 03, 2017, 12:21:49 AM
i don't think ICOs will get to an end. But they will change dramatically from what we are seeing right now.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: mhine07 on December 03, 2017, 12:26:27 AM
2019 is far too long for to predict the endings of altcoins. For now just enjoy every altcoins you are holding , and wait for it to be listed in a better ex hanges and wait for the price to go high. We don't really even know what will be the fate of altcoins in near future , but atleast for now altcoins gave big benifits to its holders. There would be always an ICO's and i think that altcoins will not end , even there are many ICO's in the crypto world.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: bandar on December 03, 2017, 12:56:02 AM
Look at this: https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20130929/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20130929/) Snapshot of 2013.  How many altcoins ring a bell?  About 10%.  Check their price and compare them with todays prices.  Now go check the other 90%.  If you're lucky they still exist they are 1x to 2x its original price. Many many are less than 10%...

That's the way things go around here.  Most die, some don't. :D


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Onestepinhell on December 03, 2017, 01:00:07 AM
No I don't think it is the end of 90% of altcoins by that time. I think that most will not be worth much but when new investors enter the scene they are looking for coins to get into which could mean pump for useless coins. I think we witnessed that in the bull run earlier this year so I don't rule it out if massive mainstream growth happens and the industry 10x in a year again.
I like your thoughts, but you can not rule out anything. Yes, maybe now altcoin and somewhere on the bottom, but if you look now, they quietly crawled to the top.
Yes, many will not cost much, but it's like shares of a certain company, if the company provides interesting services, then its shares are expensive and very much and there will be the same way


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Tux99 on December 03, 2017, 01:19:26 AM
I dont think that 2019 is the time of 90% altcoin will end.
I know many project are scam but it will not change the exist altcoin which is listed in market. The exist altcoin in exchange will not be ending.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: ZaoXhou on December 03, 2017, 01:23:22 AM
At some point people will turn their back to the most altcoins and invest in the long term projects. Like the  top20 and some hard working smaller projects. For now it is one happy family, but at some point only the strongest will survive.

It has always been the strongest survive, many altcoins die and look at the difference between marketcaps in the top 100 and below.
2019 will be no different than others.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: ZZ8ZZ on December 03, 2017, 01:25:39 AM
I agree with some of you guys here, most of the ICOs will die for sure, but not all. You remember what happened with the Confido BS recently ? The next ICO that will follow Confido and exit scam is around the corner, I can feel it.
I'm going to quote something from 1 smart guy with a nice blog, where he shares random stuff that comes to his mind  ;D

Quote
"ICO is a business idea by one or more people with a promise of execution of that idea, if they collect X amount of money through token sales.

And you can quote me on that.

Now, next time you invest in ICO have in mind that you are investing your hard earned money in a promise."


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: simrac on December 03, 2017, 01:27:15 AM
I think 2019 we just have token  ,ETH will become POS coin ,the bitcoin price can break $50,0000 .

Altcoins with new technology survive and growing up .


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Yawn85 on December 03, 2017, 01:30:29 AM
My problem is, I can’t even trust some of the supposedly good ICO this year, for example OMG, it has such a high expectation from som many people and the thing just went down with then lousy roadmap and manipulative Twitter Lopatta, yet the SDK wallet is delayed, link is another coin disappointed me, such a good idea yet the development team seem so not care the token holder and do not release any update.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Yawn85 on December 03, 2017, 01:32:44 AM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.
BTC will probably become an altcoin in a few years, since its main value right now is speculation, to be honest.

The main value of BTC nowadays is to fork new shit coin. Few days ago, when I check CMC, top 5 coins, 3 are from bitcoin family.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Ereun on December 03, 2017, 01:52:16 AM
These tokens will later be of high value in the future and give you an advantage.But over the course of many failures after ico even when ico walked they did not reach hard cap ,, coin fate is not clear its future.In this case that needs to be done is to invest must be right, so that losses can be minimized.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: keycellko on December 03, 2017, 01:53:25 AM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

I think this will become a huge set back for icos if they will not deliver. Come to think of it, for all the investment we give to these development and no amount of effort invested from the developing team, its like funding them for their own selfish gains. As investors we look at how we benefit from our investments. In 2019 if the icos will not deliver then it would probably be the end for them.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: JGreg96 on December 03, 2017, 02:07:16 AM
As vitalik said, the 99% of the ICOs will fail. This will happen because the market will become aware of the fact that a lot of projects don't need a blockchain and other projects have competitors and the market will choose the winner, the others will fail.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: lighpulsar07 on December 03, 2017, 03:43:39 AM
well that's true ICOs are booming these days and because of this, many companies are having a hard time to attract to attract investors to fund their ICOs as a result, many ICOs failed to reach their goal and also the problem with these ICOs when they reach the required quota to initiate their plan they just ran away and scam us.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

Yes they will get less interested to ICOs and they will switch to Altcoins sooner or later since many projects don't need a blockchain and also because of scam ICOs the trust of people in ICOs reduced.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Acguy on December 03, 2017, 03:45:10 AM
If you look back at the top alt coins from a few years back they aren't even relevant today.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: SenSeiSoKo on December 03, 2017, 03:48:51 AM
Who says this? Its very different to say this, but most of short altcoins won't last... maybe not 90% will go away but mostly... so its very dangerous market situation and nobody knows whats going on ;) ;D


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: trademark on December 03, 2017, 04:38:42 AM
Those investing in altcoins are definitely more selective than they use to be.  People actually research in the team, vision and expect products before tossing huge amounts of money into the project.  The days of just having a cool coin name and website is long gone.   


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: wantjokull on December 03, 2017, 06:00:29 AM

Yes most probably we will see scenario like that only. Because there is no way people are going to be scammed forever and the new comers will understand the real deal about the altcoins pretty soon. These projects are literally made for the purpose fund raising and I have gut feeling that they do make the use of these funds to grow their real life business but they never ever share the profits which are rightful. This is due to the fact that everything here is decentralised and there is no way to catch them up. They can put tag of any prove they want and they can manipulate the prices the way they want. So I’m confident enough that this won’t be lasting for much longer and everything will collapse in the future. So no more shitcoin. There will be something bigger and completely straightforward like the way we have the bitcoin.



Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: indrakusumaindra on December 03, 2017, 06:08:24 AM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.
im not agree. ICO will keep lasting and live. the value will keep as long as the token have a function. in a few next year there will be many ico coming out that offering services by using their token. i believe as long as the token have a good function and its for good the project will able to maintain their project and able to develop their coin value. that is my opinion regarding yours statment but its true that many altcoins will be die cause i dont think its usefull for dailylife and not really used by poeple


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: palapeseta on December 03, 2017, 08:18:43 AM
It's ridiculous to think of bitcoini just as an integer. Transfer can also be done with fractions. So I do not think bitcoin has a supply problem. Consider 1 satoshinin is a dollar.
and the fees?   for one satoshinin you pay a million satoshinins of fees


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Opnsrc on December 05, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
Some of them will really die as the projects will not have a success, but I am not sure the percentage will be so great. I can admit that at least half of altcoins will be quitted and they would become useless.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: dogs2thefilm on December 05, 2017, 09:33:12 PM
Several altcoins have already been outed as scams and others will have trouble really growing or scaling their businesses. You have startups with very little experience starting a company raising $30m+ in uncharted territories a lot of the time. Even in the rosiest of scenarios that sounds like an incredibly risky venture.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: NaissuR on December 05, 2017, 09:38:17 PM
there will be more and more side-chains and tokens..
i dont believe that 90% of them will die.. it will be part of our life and everything will be connected with bridges from protocol to protocol


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: leynylaine on December 05, 2017, 09:41:40 PM
I think most of them will still remain by 2020. But others with bad projects will not rise by mid 2018. Eventually, some of the altcoins will die.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: SamDummy on March 10, 2019, 01:59:16 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

Here it is 2019. Yes, it is already clear how many projects did not take place - since no one really needs them.
90% already at the start promise fairy tales.
I am selecting working projects in the list on http://workingcryptos.com/en/ . You can offer and chat on this topic here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5028218 .


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Alisha FR on March 10, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
I see that altcoin will not end in 2019, and investors will also continue to increase with the assumption that investors will be smarter in investing in ico altcoins this year, because they have learned a lot from experience in 2017 and 2018.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: robelneo on March 10, 2019, 02:17:00 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

I'm checking if this post was edited and I don't have any hint that it was edited at all, it was posted December 2017 and some of his analysis are all correct damn good analysis and prediction and no one merited this guy only me how come.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: maaldaz on March 10, 2019, 02:49:32 PM
Some coins will die, that is possible. but to reach the number of 90% from all of the altcoin that available in the market, that is a little bit hard, or even not possible at this moment. because many of those coins still has some value even it's just a really small value.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Sebas.tian on March 10, 2019, 03:28:03 PM
The title is more or less right on the mark. Majority of ICOs that happened last 2 years are already dead; they didn't bring forth the product they promised to deliver. Many people also lost money to scam projects which damaged their trust towards it.  Anyway, the trend is moving on to STO so maybe after a year the ICO market will completely be gone.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: ameliana on March 10, 2019, 03:37:12 PM
Some coins will die, that is possible. but to reach the number of 90% from all of the altcoin that available in the market, that is a little bit hard, or even not possible at this moment. because many of those coins still has some value even it's just a really small value.
yes, if you see a lot of altcoin, i'm sure there are a lot of good altcoin in market, so even though there are many altcoin that die, it won't reac 90 % .
my estimate is that in 2019 50 % of altcoin will die.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: BitcoinTurk on March 10, 2019, 04:04:04 PM
Late last year, followed by many people as often as I speak to this issue, and he says this incident will occur. Of course it is not possible to know what will happen until the end of this year, but I think it will be a year of death for many alternatives, because there are too many garbage and scam alternatives in the market. Of course rate as 90% of the available alternatives in the market this year, but that will not be left to die in the next 3-year period is too late moving in this direction and I think many investors would lose money very seriously.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Golftech on March 10, 2019, 04:13:21 PM
Some coins will die, that is possible. but to reach the number of 90% from all of the altcoin that available in the market, that is a little bit hard, or even not possible at this moment. because many of those coins still has some value even it's just a really small value.
yes, if you see a lot of altcoin, i'm sure there are a lot of good altcoin in market, so even though there are many altcoin that die, it won't reac 90 % .
my estimate is that in 2019 50 % of altcoin will die.
Ratio against good coins might be more than 50% will die if not 90% it will be 75-80% percents of alts will be lack of support and die naturally, without any help with community even the project really have good intentions and good possible usage, the competitions around newer coins will be tough to overcome, as new projects will be introduced by bigger community or company that will lead crypto to another level.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Gaggy185 on March 10, 2019, 04:18:49 PM
LOL. This prediction really come true :)). At the moment, so many altcoins turned into shitcoin cause their price almost zero even lower than 1sts on Coinmarketcap and trading volume is lower than $1k. Maybe till the end of this year, we will find out a new way to earn instead of investing in ICO project


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Pomogator on March 10, 2019, 04:20:40 PM
This topic is true. I do not know how this user did it, but this is true. 2019 is indeed the year of the end of most ICO projects, and this is sad. And this is all because of the scammers who dragged all the money from cryptoinvestors!


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: jozymens7 on March 10, 2019, 04:34:53 PM
I think crypto has got only one purpose which is to make online/digital payment so making many cryptos and telling telling people that particular coin or tokens will be used for something different is just another big scam because for instance, bitcoin can be accpeted anywhere so why should projects keep popping up with the same idea of bitcoin, ether, usdt, ripple, stellar, ardor and many others. The top ones can be used alone and no worrying ourselves to get more tokens and coins for each project.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: dizzy1996 on March 10, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
To some extent you are right, but this is not certain. You have to understand that most of the projects end their existence due to lack of investment and this is precisely the factor
the key.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: SamDummy on March 10, 2019, 04:49:41 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

I'm checking if this post was edited and I don't have any hint that it was edited at all, it was posted December 2017 and some of his analysis are all correct damn good analysis and prediction and no one merited this guy only me how come.

Yea) The topic has been abandoned. I was just looking for the topic with text "2019" and there were not so many of them.
And the topic turned out to be really relevant, despite the date 2 December 2017. (also surprised) But I am not rich in sMerit.





Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Cianix on March 10, 2019, 05:00:18 PM
LOL. This prediction really come true :)). At the moment, so many altcoins turned into shitcoin cause their price almost zero even lower than 1sts on Coinmarketcap and trading volume is lower than $1k. Maybe till the end of this year, we will find out a new way to earn instead of investing in ICO project
Well, I do not even know who invests in ico , now a very small number who can afford to invest here to earn something , I think on trading to earn much better and easier!


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: jpnl0005 on March 10, 2019, 05:05:19 PM
the altcoins have never been a threat to the crypto space as they are projects that appear in different blockchain plaltforms and then not every other project that comes into the space as altcoins always come with the idea of dying off.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: flyingcat on March 10, 2019, 05:08:45 PM
I think by 2020, about 99 percent of altcoin is going to die, because their value is just speculation, but nothing.
i agree. the valuation of altcoins reminds me of .net bubble. at first there will be a big crash, then 99% will die and 1% will prosper.

The bad altcoins should be removed out from the cryptocurrency market, I think. That is good for market and investors, and if the bad and scam altcoins were removed, I believe the cryptocurrency market will become better.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: makerst on March 10, 2019, 05:14:55 PM
It seems to me that on the contrary today it makes sense to really do exactly what we have. Indeed, you can make very confident investments in altcoins. It seems to me that all the same altcoins have great potentials in 2019. Although in spite of the market, I think that by the end of this year it will make sense to go ahead


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: macstrong12 on March 10, 2019, 05:17:41 PM
Yeah , like 2018 that some coins and tokens turned to 1/100 of their ATH , 2019 would be like that also other years , From now on people invest wiser and when they do, fewer shitcoins can survive in the majority intelligence, it is very like stockmarket , only good ones survive.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: trade2winnn on March 10, 2019, 05:44:52 PM
It may be,if the market even with a half years old this shit will stand as it is now,I think Yes and it will be sorry,do not understand the situation,what do the Manipulators,and large Whales that is expelled by the people,and devalue the projects that they turned down,so of course it may be that 90% will leave the market


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: baobao2000 on March 10, 2019, 05:57:13 PM
Many ICO token don’t have any function, they are simply just copy other coins, if the market is good, they can sell for good price, pretty sure most of the ICO tokens can’t survive this long difficult time. I think most of them will dead, but when the Bull Run back, there will many new ICO token born again.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: anobtc on March 10, 2019, 06:03:47 PM
In these difficult times, only the coins (or tokens) that are really active and have a large enough capital can keep up. If it exists, it will be remarkable coins when the market goes up. The rest will die as an indispensable thing.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: mondeo.96 on March 10, 2019, 06:18:13 PM
Yes, many altkina smart.
But there are some Altcoin which you can earn well. Who have a future. Here is an example:

https://coinmarketcap.com/ru/currencies/toacoin/#markets

ToaCoin (TOA)  ::)
$0,001034 USD (227,14%)
0,00000026 BTC (227,99%)

Volume (24h)
$61 686 USD
15,65 BTC


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: uralcryptocoin on March 10, 2019, 06:36:34 PM
Yes, many altkina smart.
But there are some Altcoin which you can earn well. Who have a future. Here is an example:

https://coinmarketcap.com/ru/currencies/toacoin/#markets

ToaCoin (TOA)  ::)
$0,001034 USD (227,14%)
0,00000026 BTC (227,99%)

Volume (24h)
$61 686 USD
15,65 BTC

And everyday the such pretendent can be found. Pump of hundreds percents at small exchanges.
So the thoughts that 90% of altcoins will go to nowhere is truth


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: VukotLy on March 10, 2019, 06:39:53 PM
I do not think so. The market begins its rise after decline in 2018.
Many coins start to grow in price and I have no doubt that a large number of them will not be lost on the market.
The most resistant Altcoins who have repeatedly proved to us their vitality will remain with us.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: kingpin4321 on March 10, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
I don't agree that 90% of altcoins would die this year.  We will surly see a huge drop in altcoin this year and if sto make head way more would drop but not just 90%


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: arimamib on March 10, 2019, 06:55:34 PM
I don't agree that 90% of altcoins would die this year.  We will surly see a huge drop in altcoin this year and if sto make head way more would drop but not just 90%
in the market there was already plenty of evidence that the altcoin dump was for a few years before but I am sure not 90% altcoin dump and in this case there might be an excessive nature of opinion. in fact in the near future altcoin has begun to grow in the market and there is a lot of hope to continue to grow and it can be profitable to invest in this time


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: SistaFista on March 11, 2019, 02:25:10 AM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

You created this thread in 2017 past, and now we are here in 2019. Seems like your prediction become reality.
Many ICO was created in 2017 - 2018, but only few of them are delivering the developments.
If ICOs keep not delivering what has been promised, then ICO will really die in 2019.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: rosmerius on March 11, 2019, 02:47:30 AM
It can be a consideration and learning for ICO elections, this year it seems that ICO can become extinct and begin to ease because development cannot be maximized. Some coins that are still running but have low value make many investors tend to stay up rather than invest in ICO.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: joshy23 on March 11, 2019, 03:34:11 AM
It can be a consideration and learning for ICO elections, this year it seems that ICO can become extinct and begin to ease because development cannot be maximized. Some coins that are still running but have low value make many investors tend to stay up rather than invest in ICO.
Which been the issue as investors getting tired investing with this business, most of those coins which already out of the market are not making any
progress, some might listed but have lower value some are still working with exchange and developers still promising but nothing happened, this
venue of investment if won't change for good will surely instinct after.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: asriloni on March 11, 2019, 03:39:28 AM
It can be a consideration and learning for ICO elections, this year it seems that ICO can become extinct and begin to ease because development cannot be maximized. Some coins that are still running but have low value make many investors tend to stay up rather than invest in ICO.
Which been the issue as investors getting tired investing with this business, most of those coins which already out of the market are not making any
progress, some might listed but have lower value some are still working with exchange and developers still promising but nothing happened, this
venue of investment if won't change for good will surely instinct after.
Investors have been getting a new way to choose which best and bad icos. you should aware if there were two successful icos that has already did very well through use binance launch pad system and it will tell you a lot about that dude.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Malam90 on March 11, 2019, 03:48:41 AM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?

I don't think 90% of altcoins will die in 2019. But it is a matter of really disappointment that few shitcoins are destroying the market. This few shit coins will vanish sooner or later.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: silver23 on March 11, 2019, 03:54:49 AM
For now, i think i don't want to try ICO for this time.
Maybe i will look what will happen in ICO this year.
If ICO is much better than last year i will try to join ICO again.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: djuragan on March 11, 2019, 04:00:29 AM
perhaps you had a reason, asking if 90% of the altcoins will die in 2019.
Even though the cryptocurrency is in a bad condition right now, but as long as it has its value then it won't consider as dead.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Ararbermas on March 11, 2019, 04:03:06 AM
Nope in my view for sure scam project only has a tends to end on this year and of course those  trusted project only will remain because as long there are more investors still looking for a cheap and legit coin to invest surely it will regain a value always and will not end especially if it have a good team behind.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Atang Sulaeman on March 11, 2019, 04:07:29 AM
all existing and strongest ICO projects will continue to grow, some of which are undeveloped projects will die and will only become garbage, we only expect all altcoins to stay alive and stay alive for the future, and add good or reliable value very high .


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: mamahdedeh on March 11, 2019, 04:49:47 AM
Maybe it's true that 2019 will make most coins die. The coins that are not strong enough to face market competition will be selected from the market and will become garbage. Now, it has been proven that most ICOs do not fulfill their promises to share profits or distribute prizes. I am sure this will make the ICO increasingly lose confidence. But I don't know what will happen for sure, it's just my prediction. Hopefully each coin can show its innovation so that it can compete in the market.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: smyslov on March 11, 2019, 05:05:37 AM
Back then I, when I am not yet on Stake.com campaign I'm having a very hard time to choose ICO to promote, some of this, is duplicate of an existing project and most of them are an obvious scam 2019 hopefully we can resolve this ICO scamming.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Amalker on March 11, 2019, 05:09:50 AM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?
I think the most part of the old projects will disappeared from market. Then, after the new bull run become, many unuseful ICO project will start to collect funds on the new wave of hype.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: killat on March 11, 2019, 05:12:06 AM
People started to wake up and understood that most of altcoins are worthless, have no future and have been created just for pure speculation.

Strong projects will survive but more than currently existing 90% of alts won't.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Darklinkz on March 11, 2019, 05:36:03 AM
There are still no altcoins reigning in the worldwide market when it comes to payments, apps or anything related to blockchain so it is still not the end for the rest of the 90% of altcoins. They have still chances to make it and reduce that percentage to 60% or 50% with their real working product.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: soyalmomin75 on March 11, 2019, 05:45:15 AM
not 90 percent 99 percent will die..
 Only token which having better utility will survive.

only genuine concepts live.....


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Natalim on March 11, 2019, 05:49:15 AM
There are still no altcoins reigning in the worldwide market when it comes to payments, apps or anything related to blockchain so it is still not the end for the rest of the 90% of altcoins. They have still chances to make it and reduce that percentage to 60% or 50% with their real working product.
With the number of useless altcoin in the market, maybe this percentage could be accurate.
Before of the 1 year bear period, we have now a lot of worthless altcoin and that is good for the market as we will only see the legit to survive.
I believe 2019 will be a great year for us but only for the legit altcoin investors because this time around, investors will be smarter.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: viananda2525 on March 11, 2019, 06:05:36 AM
There are still no altcoins reigning in the worldwide market when it comes to payments, apps or anything related to blockchain so it is still not the end for the rest of the 90% of altcoins. They have still chances to make it and reduce that percentage to 60% or 50% with their real working product.
With the number of useless altcoin in the market, maybe this percentage could be accurate.
Before of the 1 year bear period, we have now a lot of worthless altcoin and that is good for the market as we will only see the legit to survive.
I believe 2019 will be a great year for us but only for the legit altcoin investors because this time around, investors will be smarter.
no more shitcoin will survive in this year.and by accident long bearish market trend, investors become smarter and becarefull while they want invest their money into cryptocurrency.they learn alot from their mistake before, and i am sure only qualified projects could survive this year.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: TechComputer on March 11, 2019, 06:10:47 AM
It's been 2019 and its the first quarter of 2019. Yes, it's true for some of the altcoins has ended but there are so many new projects come right away.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: agusiska on March 11, 2019, 06:22:47 AM
not really true, but yes mostly of them has finished already when storm hit crypto currency and make market deep fall, but soon crypto on their way of revival.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: semobo on March 11, 2019, 06:49:50 AM
If we didn't see any bull run soon then it might be the results,and itger reason is people are getting tired of lot of worthless whit projects so they will try to concentrate on the best coins which can leads to other coins to die.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Mighty_crypt on March 11, 2019, 07:27:53 AM
You are wrong because only the bad altcoins will die and the truth is bitcoin been the number one on cmc all altcoins follow its movement, if bitcoin surge in price all altcoins will surge in price too and if bitcoin price fall it will surely drag all altcoins price down too ,its simply as that ,the wise choice is to always invest in good altcoins only


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: equator on March 11, 2019, 07:38:47 AM
You are wrong because only the bad altcoins will die and the truth is bitcoin been the number one on cmc all altcoins follow its movement, if bitcoin surge in price all altcoins will surge in price too and if bitcoin price fall it will surely drag all altcoins price down too ,its simply as that ,the wise choice is to always invest in good altcoins only

What you are telling is the true story of the all altcoins but their are some coins which are moving by its progress and they are not bother about market movement of bitcoin movement.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: roadwell890 on March 11, 2019, 08:39:19 AM
If we didn't see any bull run soon then it might be the results,and itger reason is people are getting tired of lot of worthless whit projects so they will try to concentrate on the best coins which can leads to other coins to die.
concentrate on good and potential coins so that they can increase and be profitable because theirnot  potential coins will easily die.
Altcoin is really good, they will grow and they will stay alive so they can grow.
and we must be good at choosing good projects because there are currently many projects that are so bad that they will harm you.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: leea-1334 on March 11, 2019, 09:23:11 AM
Which been the issue as investors getting tired investing with this business, most of those coins which already out of the market are not making any
progress, some might listed but have lower value some are still working with exchange and developers still promising but nothing happened, this
venue of investment if won't change for good will surely instinct after.

Investors are not getting tired,,, rather it is the speculators who are getting tired. Investors talk about 5 to 10 years before seeing profit, and return on their capital, whereas speculators talk about mooning and x100 in a few months.

So why do you think they have stopped putting money into ICOs? Because they never entered with the correct frame of investment. You think this is the end of altcoin? Wait for the next bullrun. Then people will lose their memories again.


Title: Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin?
Post by: Bitto2 on March 11, 2019, 10:02:21 AM
The best ones will survive but there are a ton of coins that are just meaningless and will eventually go