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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 10:19:45 PM



Title: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 10:19:45 PM
I think this guy is building up his rep for the BIG con

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247959.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248078.msg2631570#msg2631570

I've had threatening pm's from this guy for warning others to be careful - mods can check my pm messages


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 10:22:41 PM
LOL me sending you threatening PM's OK? Let me post your PM to me:

That con with the amazon voucher was pretty bad - I'm gonna watch your posts and paste this when you try to buy or sell

I think this guy is building up his rep for the BIG con

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247959.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248078.msg2631570#msg2631570

Might as well start again with another newb - at least the community will have a break for a while until you build up your 'rep' again.

Here are my responses:
Reply #1: Go for it. I can provide you examples of 50+ transactions where I've escrowed far more then 20 BTC so just stop. I get most of my coins off of seals anyways. I will continue to use this post and I have posted feedback for you because of your threats as well.
Reply #2: You really are such a fool, I sold 20+ btc the other day and was sent $300, $370 and $550 moneypak ALL were sent first to me, and ALL rec'd their coins within 30 minutes. Smiley Can provide proof of that too. For any transaction of more then $1000 I'd prefer escrow too! Just so I can say this whole big con nonsense of urs is BS. All i tried to do was a help two users and thus one or both lied. Still to this day I do not know which. I skyped with the person and they went to amazon chat, did the sam convo and the same thing came up. I then realized either one could have created the blazeout419@gmail.com account so thus I realized it to the person with the more reputable feedback in the past. Keep dreaming tho, I've been taught that stealing is the worst thing you can do so please keep the accusations coming, I'll get my popcorn ready. Oh and I'll still get my BTC at cost like always. Smiley


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 10:23:57 PM
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let me explain something to you, i am not old sport. let me explain something to you dont make fuckign claims u have no proof of. I HAVE DONE OVER 50 ESCROWS ON SEALSWITHCLUBS WITH NO ISSUE. I AM SURE THAT OLDSPORT DOESNT PLAY ON SEALS OR WHATEVER ANYWAYS> I STARTED ON FUCKING SEALS AND CAME HERE> I HAVE HAD NO ISSUE WITH ESCROW THERE SO I FUGURED ID HELP PPL OUT HERE> DID OLD SPORT EVER MAkING A bET THRRad? IM SURE NOT> DID HE ACRUALLY EVER GIVE A SHIT BOUT ANYONE/ NO. U DONT KNOW ME DONT CLAIM I AM A FUCKING SCAMMER. I SWEAR TO GOD U R A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY I HATE THIS BITCOIN COMMUNITY NOW. "U SPEAK LIKE SO N SO" OH UR A SCAMMER! ITS SO IMMATURE THE WHOLE BTC COMMUNITY IS IMMATURE. DONT ACT TOUGH AND DONT ACCUSE PEOPLE WHO JUST TRIED TO HELP. I DONT SEE U HELPING PEOPLE JUST MAKING FUCKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS.

[EDIT] note the caps rant I received more than once


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 10:25:53 PM
Just to update, this user is accusing me of having been "in" on an escrow that went bad, and YET the same user he believed was telling the truth was the one who rec'd the coins BACK. He thinks I was trying to scam for 1.3 coins, get out, it honestly is hillarious but yet angering that I am being accused over such a petty amount. All i tried to do was offer an escrow service AS I HAVE DONE 50+ TIMES ON SEALSWITHCLUBS.EU, to help circulate bitcoins more thus helping the overall value. Since that bad escrow I have stopped escrowing completely, because sadly people involving escrows can't even be trusted to be honest.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 10:27:02 PM
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let me explain something to you, i am not old sport. let me explain something to you dont make fuckign claims u have no proof of. I HAVE DONE OVER 50 ESCROWS ON SEALSWITHCLUBS WITH NO ISSUE. I AM SURE THAT OLDSPORT DOESNT PLAY ON SEALS OR WHATEVER ANYWAYS> I STARTED ON FUCKING SEALS AND CAME HERE> I HAVE HAD NO ISSUE WITH ESCROW THERE SO I FUGURED ID HELP PPL OUT HERE> DID OLD SPORT EVER MAkING A bET THRRad? IM SURE NOT> DID HE ACRUALLY EVER GIVE A SHIT BOUT ANYONE/ NO. U DONT KNOW ME DONT CLAIM I AM A FUCKING SCAMMER. I SWEAR TO GOD U R A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY I HATE THIS BITCOIN COMMUNITY NOW. "U SPEAK LIKE SO N SO" OH UR A SCAMMER! ITS SO IMMATURE THE WHOLE BTC COMMUNITY IS IMMATURE. DONT ACT TOUGH AND DONT ACCUSE PEOPLE WHO JUST TRIED TO HELP. I DONT SEE U HELPING PEOPLE JUST MAKING FUCKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS.

[EDIT] note the caps rant I received more than once

Thats from a week ago or so but yes where are my threats against you? You come at me accusing me of scamming with no evidence, YEAH IM GOING TO BE PISSED.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 10:30:02 PM
Evidence here - you want to play hard ball


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247959.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248078.msg2631570#msg2631570


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 10:36:07 PM
Like I said before, 0 evidence. In that thread you will see that I skyped with the user and did screenshare. I did not believe the photos of the person with the amazon code so I asked to skype with them to REPEAT the conversation with the chat agent on Amazon. When they asked the new agent they said the code was redeemed by blazeout419@gmail.com. I truly thought at this point the willingness and cooperation of the person who sent the code was being honest here. Meanwhile the person who sent the BTC wanted me to refund them within 5 mins of it, trying to rush me thru the escrow. This is why I at first sided with the code seller after he cooperated and I skyped with using screenshare. HOWEVER, it became evident that either user could have created the amazon account under the email blazeout419@gmail.com so there was no evidence for either party. Thus, I had no choice but to release the escrowed amount to the person with the higher trust rating/history. I will not be escrowing on here EVER again after this one. This was an escrow for a WHOPPPING 1.3 BTC, like cmon now people.

I have escrows for more then 5 BTC done without ever any trouble totaling well over 20 BTC, all my comments on my username on seals can be seen at sealsdeals.info, the site's WOT. go to Web of Trust and look up "kingofsports". Currently a trust rating of 3967 with over 30+ comments of my buying selling and escrowing on the site are there. I've been sent first as much as 7 or 8 coins, i forget the amount and always have paid as agreed.

Let me post some of the exact comments just to further prove my case here (on seals 1000 chips = 1 BTC):

bank (2013-05-20): super legit guy!! sold him 3 btc for 3 moneypaks worked like a charm!!
graven29 (2013-05-20): did several large transactions for moneypak and everything went smooth. he is patient as well
higgsbozo (2013-05-31): very trusted member, escrowed over 2 btc, smooth transaction. will use as escrow in all future transactions.
foxmulder (2013-06-08): escrowed a gdmp trade for me with no problems. ty
trb111 (2013-06-09): escrowed twice for me yesterday, highly recommended
twintime (2013-06-09): another solid transaction thanks alot
graven29 (2013-06-11): escrowed for deal between me and freethepoker. smooth
freethepoker (2013-06-11): sold $180 of chips for gdmp, no escrow, easy and quick transaction
graven29 (2013-06-13): transacted for coinroll. smooth and easy
nlnico (2013-06-13): very nice guy ! escrowed 1.3 btc for me and did a transfer for 0.2 btc before too. thanks!
aceskings212 (2013-06-13): escrowed 1300 chips for me and nlnico. ty so much sir
ufold2ez (2013-06-19): bet 50 chips on the stanley cup for chi to win game 4
ufold2ez (2013-06-20): fast payment, thanks!
getitn (2013-06-24): escrowed $125 gdmp to seals transaction...trustworthy escrow as always
grundle (2013-06-24): escrowed for a $125 moneypak. smooth deal. thanks!
wolverine69 (2013-06-27): completed a successful sale of 600 to kos for gdmp. i sent first and he delivered as promised. he even walked me thorugh the process. ty !
gigalew (2013-06-27): speedy escrow thanks
graven29 (2013-06-28): deal for gdmp. smooth transaction
johnrambo (2013-07-04): have sold him over 5k worth of chips past 2 days. i sent first both times no escrow no problems! thanks


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 10:41:15 PM
Like I said - building up small transactions to the BIG con - just warning - if you get burnt by this guy then you missed this thread


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 10:43:19 PM
I accept escrow at any time...but okay. Personally for anything over $500 I'd prefer escrow but generally do not want to pay the fees I will admit.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 10:44:40 PM
Like I said - building up small transactions to the BIG con - just warning - if you get burnt by this guy then you missed this thread

Your entire evidence is based upon the fact that a 1.3 BTC escrow went bad, and thus I had to make a decision. You claimed I tried conning this transaction however looking at my feedback and the mtgox prices at the times of those escrows, you can clearly see I have had multiple opportunities where i could of ran with $500+ worth of BTC, but did not. Like I said you have 0 evidence.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 10:47:00 PM
noticed my post on his 'rep' thread was deleted - it said this


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247959.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248078.msg2631570#msg2631570

[EDIT] Must be nice to be able to censor your own 'rep' thread...


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
noticed my post on his 'rep' thread was deleted - it said this


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247959.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248078.msg2631570#msg2631570

Check again, your post IS there. I welcome all accusations and reply to them proving they are in fact wrong.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 10:59:36 PM
Like I said - building up small transactions to the BIG con - just warning - if you get burnt by this guy then you missed this thread


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: KingOfSports on July 05, 2013, 11:02:35 PM
No worries buddy, in all future sales threads I create I will link this thread there to prevent anyone from not reading the "evidence" first. Let others decide.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on July 05, 2013, 11:05:24 PM
No worries buddy, in all future sales threads I create I will link this thread there to prevent anyone from not reading the "evidence" first. Let others decide.

After the insults you pm'd me we are definitely not 'buddies' - buddy


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: thisisgil on July 06, 2013, 12:13:03 AM
After the insults you pm'd me we are definitely not 'buddies' - buddy

Le sigh! Not again. How about you produce some concrete evidence, or bore off?


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: Wardrick on July 07, 2013, 10:50:12 AM
I don't see anything suspicious, what are you trying to say? He escrowed a $125 trade where a guy with 5 negative reps gives him an Amazon code, and it doesn't work? Yeah that seems really sketchy man.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on July 07, 2013, 02:21:54 PM
I've never heard anything bad about KingOfSports. I won chips from him during a chat contest. Great guy on Seals!


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: BigBitz on September 23, 2013, 12:02:12 PM
here's some evidence.

He owes me 2BTC.

That's as hard as you can get.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: redtwitz on September 24, 2013, 03:41:02 PM
here's some evidence.

He owes me 2BTC.

That's as hard as you can get.

That statement's meaningless without a little context.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: BigBitz on September 24, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
here's some evidence.

He owes me 2BTC.

That's as hard as you can get.

That statement's meaningless without a little context.
Context in what regard?

You can see my trust rating. I think you can have some warmth in what I say.

He needed a loan of 2BTC whilst waiting on a coinbase transaction. I sent him 2BTC - he hasn't sent it back.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: BayAreaCoins on September 25, 2013, 01:29:14 AM
here's some evidence.

He owes me 2BTC.

That's as hard as you can get.

That statement's meaningless without a little context.
Context in what regard?

You can see my trust rating. I think you can have some warmth in what I say.

He needed a loan of 2BTC whilst waiting on a coinbase transaction. I sent him 2BTC - he hasn't sent it back.

Coinbase is instant for him surely his account is past that point!


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: monbux on September 25, 2013, 02:01:28 AM
Ok, how about some actual proof?  I'm not on any side - but show us the coinbase transaction you sent to him, the 2 BTC, prove that address was his.  If he cannot prove that he paid back, then you're right.  But don't say this just as text, get us some visuals.


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: nottm28 on September 25, 2013, 09:48:12 PM
here's some evidence.

He owes me 2BTC.

That's as hard as you can get.

That statement's meaningless without a little context.
Context in what regard?

You can see my trust rating. I think you can have some warmth in what I say.

He needed a loan of 2BTC whilst waiting on a coinbase transaction. I sent him 2BTC - he hasn't sent it back.

Did you get you coins back BB?


Title: Re: KingOfSports - trade with care
Post by: BigBitz on September 26, 2013, 11:24:32 AM
here's some evidence.

He owes me 2BTC.

That's as hard as you can get.

That statement's meaningless without a little context.
Context in what regard?

You can see my trust rating. I think you can have some warmth in what I say.

He needed a loan of 2BTC whilst waiting on a coinbase transaction. I sent him 2BTC - he hasn't sent it back.

Did you get you coins back BB?
Not yet mate. :(