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I noticed this post in another thread and I just wanted to get some opinions in regards to the authenticity of the site. Has anyone used all4btc.com? The poster only has 22 posts so I thought it was worth checking, perhaps there are already alternative services out there that have the same function. I want to buy a A3 printer and most Bitcoin sites I have browsed don't seem to have what I am looking for so I am turning to Amazon to save the day. They claim to order from Amazon after paying with Bitcoin but naturally they could take the payment and never fulfill the order.

Hi!

We are running all4btc.com. I know that it doesn't mean much but if we right we are legit, but we are :-)! Just start with something small, you'll see.

Our company is located in Berlin and we are legally registered by German law. You can check everything on www.bitcoinsberlin.com. We are in bitcoin business since the beginning of this year and have hundreds of satisfied costumers.

We run several other bitcoin businesses too amd we are official bitpay partner in Germany.

Best wishes from Berlin
bitcoinsberlin team

I sent you an email 2 days ago for payment to info@bitcoinsberlin.com but i didnt get an answer yet.

I also would like some reply to my emails.

I never tried the service in the end, have they not complete your orders?

I didnt try to buy amazon but since i did not get an answer through any contact form i would never risk my bitcoins there. Its a too bad sign simply.

What about using a user of this site that you trust to order? Guessing some may be willing to do this.

anyone tried this yet?

There are a lot of mentions for all4btc in various forums but I couldn't find any user reviews so far which is quite concerning.

I gave it a try and ordered a 12V 400W PSU on 31. October, it was delivered a few minutes ago! Not too bad 'cause 1st November is a bank holiday here and therefore a long weekend!

Btw, the company i ordered from through all4btc/Amazon and i reside in the same country, might have sped it up a bit  8)

Hi at all, hi Beutelschneider,

It is a pity, there are still some misconception about our service.

For sure we fulfill every order!

Since the 1th of November, Amazon & Ebay shipped more than €15k for our bitcoin users!

We gonna work-out some testimonials to create more trust,
our business is registered and we work each day to empower the bitcoin community.

Best regards from Berlin!

Apologies if my thread has made your service sound any less reputable. For the record I have not tried out all4btc.com, nor had I heard anything bad about them before creating the thread.

It might be that you really work but why the heck dont you do support? I never got an answer for forum pm's, emails, questions in threads and more. I mean thats so different from doing good business. Will this change?

Anyway... since you do it with amazon... what about other shops? For example i wanted to buy a music instrument that wasnt cheap. You didnt answer.

Do you do other shops too? If not why is amazon different?

What i wonder... when ordering you need to be sure that you keep it since its not possible to send it back because its broken or otherwise wrong right? Or can it be reversed?

I made a testbuy now. There was a better offer for the same product i would have chosen when i privately would buy but ok. Its probably hard to check those offers.

What i didnt like with the process is that you only can order a single product. Normally i buy more than one product. And its not possible to buy more than one of the same product too it seems.

Otherwise the buying process worked though its a bit more expensive than simply changing bitcoins to euro and buy with them at amazon.

So far i see these disadvantages:

* only one product
* only one piece of one product
* what about broken products?
* a bit more expensive (but you can pay in btc)
* no support when i wanted it so i dont know if other shops can be done manually

Well if it works those problems are just a small price to pay for the convenience of being able to shop on Amazon directly with Bitcoin. Im definitely going to try it too.

I already had 2 pleasant smaller orders with them through amazon. Everything arrived on time.

Today I have placed a bigger order through ebay with them, i will post again here if anything comes up.

I got a small order around 20€ sent successfully. Though they could have chosen a cheaper offer but the software probably cant see this.

Im unsure if to buy bigger things because i wonder what to do if the goods are broken or otherwise has to be returned. Will the support help then?

Since my last order was successful i now tried a bit more expensive one. Since i wanted 2 products from amazon and both had options i used the third option and specified my order in the notes area. Lets see if it works out.

Anyway... i would like to hear what would happen in case of broken item or that the item has to be returned for another reason.

Edit: One day later no reaction... it wasnt ordered yet by them.

*grumble* Thats not correct. I paid 2 days ago for 0.283BTC and still no confirmation that the goods were ordered. I will write them an email now. If by tomorrow they didnt order i will demand my bitcoins back and order myself.

Hi ,

sorry I forgot about this. My friday order seems to have been ordered tuesday/yesterday.
My email from tuesday has been answered today.
I received a tracking number today.

All in all this is not acceptable for a 5% fee and i'm a bit disappointed.

If there are problems with man power in processing the orders, why was there no limit in the first place?

If i sold the btc on friday i could have probably ordered monday and would be sure that everything was alright.

If anybody does have a good alternative shoot me a pm.

i guess u got your answer from other members replies  :P

So after 3 days i got an email with a statement that one of my chosen products was ordered. I hope they didnt forget the second product.

So i would say if you need something fast you have to consider... i dont know how many days it will take max to get it ordered by them.

Thats it for me. Im done with all4btc.com even for products i dont need immediately. After a small product was delivered fast i ordered something for over 100€. I didnt get a confirmation so i had to send an email. Finally after 3 days i got a confirmation. Then i waited and waited and sent another email to ask where my product is. I got the answer that amazon didnt accept their fully loaded credit card. I guess they use VCC's so its no wonder amazon dont like it. They claimed they will order again.

Till then nothing. No reactions to my emails anymore. Now its 14!!! days after i ordered and i have nothing. I now want my bitcoins back.

Because of these useless website i had no proper shoes in fitness center. Thanks a lot! Trusting this website wasnt worth it.

I think i will now check if joinsnapcard.com works. But i wont make experiments with things i need fast anymore.

I tried another website. joinsnapcard.com Im positively surprised.

I ordered around 8 different products and put sizes and colors in the notes and they are great. After 2 days after payment i got everything. They seem to put every product into a different order but its not so bad.

I tried shops besides amazon and ebay and 2 didnt work for them because they couldnt do a company address in usa and delivery to my country. They asked me to find it elsewhere. I found the products at amazon and bought there then.

They seems to have slight problems with the daily transfer limit of their bank account, like stated in the customer panel, but on the next day they gave me the links to pay. (I dont use coinbase)

They have support! And they are answering fast.

So i think i found a good website for buying with btc. I have nothing to complain.

With one thing i got i wasnt pleased. So i will send it back. Lets see how this works out.

Dont have my bitcoins back from all4btc. I think the guys at all4btc dont see the website as first priority... more something they do when they have time. I had to answer them to check things, they seem to try new payment methods for that i have to wait again and so on.

Whatever... tests show how it works.

So... legit but in over their heads? The message displayed on the site seems to express something along those lines. I'm currently trying to figure out if an order from their e4btc shop will be worked out. My mailbox is mostly tumbleweeds, but lacking communication seems to be part of the experience.

So all4btc.com is gone now? Looks that way... i hope i get my btc back.

Got this yesterday:

Dear bitcoin user,

we are sorry for come small circumstances, all customers get their money back if an product can not be ordered.

During shopping seasons some orders get a delay up to two business days,
for the vast majority of our customers we enable payment and shipment preparation with one business day.

We are able to process hundreds of orders within a week and are scaling the way to shop online using Bitcoin.

Please also check out our reviews and mentions in other threads - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262309.0

Thanks for the feedback, your business and understanding,
All4btc team.