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Title: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinBuilder on July 03, 2011, 02:53:56 AM
OK so people think my site is fake.
I am here to prove you all wrong.
Can someone please send me 0.01 BTC and I will double it.
I am doing this so people believe me. I don't know why people think it's a scam.
I will double anyones amount. If you have a lot of BTC please send 0.01 BTC to my address below. I would not scam someone out of that little!
With the attitude some of you people have,not to move around BTC and not believing people with new ideas it will never grow!
1Bc22zWytZJKthixh9JaLYwZVGsHejouy7


my site http://www.wix.com/bitcoinbuilder/bitcoin-builder (password to enter the "enter here" page is "betatest")

So can someone send me this small amount so I can prove it right here,right now.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinBuilder on July 03, 2011, 02:58:28 AM
So NOT ONE PERSON wants to enter 0.01 BTC?? ???


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Oldminer on July 03, 2011, 03:01:46 AM
Hmm you say in your post to send 0.01 but when you go to the site it asks for 0.10  ???


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinBuilder on July 03, 2011, 03:02:19 AM
Hmm you say in your post to send 0.01 but when you go to the site it asks for 0.10  ???
because I want to prove it here that I can do it.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinBuilder on July 03, 2011, 03:02:59 AM
some people may be suspicious about .10 btc


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 03, 2011, 03:03:16 AM
Oldminer is the king of scams, if he thinks something is up, something is the fuck up.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Oldminer on July 03, 2011, 03:03:27 AM
Ok 0.01 sent to your address


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Oldminer on July 03, 2011, 03:04:12 AM
Oldminer is the king of scams, if he thinks something is up, something is the fuck up.

lol you spoke too soon..I'm gonna give this guy the benefit of the doubt in this case


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: fascistmuffin on July 03, 2011, 03:13:41 AM
I guess within 48 hours I'll be able to tell you if the sites a scam or not. I would like to know the secret behind it, maybe if they PM'ed me some details I'd keep it a secret, and would vouch for it if it was legit or not.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Oldminer on July 03, 2011, 03:14:47 AM
I guess within 48 hours I'll be able to tell you if the sites a scam or not. I would like to know the secret behind it, maybe if they PM'ed me some details I'd keep it a secret, and would vouch for it if it was legit or not.

Yer..just for chrisakes dont give it to bernanke to invest


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinBuilder on July 03, 2011, 03:14:56 AM
I guess within 48 hours I'll be able to tell you if the sites a scam or not. I would like to know the secret behind it, maybe if they PM'ed me some details I'd keep it a secret, and would vouch for it if it was legit or not.
Did you send in? I am still waiting for oldminers..


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 03, 2011, 03:22:41 AM
To save some time, why don't you just send 0.01 to the address listed in my signature.

This way, you do not have to wait for me to send you BTC.
I'm sure you can do better things with your time.

Also this cut down on some of traffic on the BTC network. e.g., me sending you 0.01 and you sending back 0.02.
!


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: gochk on July 03, 2011, 03:24:46 AM
Another one of these http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23704

LOL ... back for seconds??


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitCoinBarter on July 03, 2011, 03:25:27 AM
Can someone please send me 0.01 BTC and I will double it.
I am doing this so people believe me. I don't know why people think it's a scam.

To save some time, why don't you just send 0.01 to the address listed in my signature.

This way, you do not have to wait for me to send you BTC.
I'm sure you can do better things with your time.

Also this cut down on some of traffic on the BTC network. e.g., me sending you 0.01 and you sending back 0.02.

 
;D



Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: fascistmuffin on July 03, 2011, 03:31:23 AM
I guess within 48 hours I'll be able to tell you if the sites a scam or not. I would like to know the secret behind it, maybe if they PM'ed me some details I'd keep it a secret, and would vouch for it if it was legit or not.
Did you send in? I am still waiting for oldminers..

I sent it to the actual site.

If anything, I just paid 0.1 to be entertained for up to 48 hours. That's more entertainment/hour than a movie.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Oldminer on July 03, 2011, 03:33:49 AM

If anything, I just paid 0.1 to be entertained for up to 48 hours. That's more entertainment/hour than a move.

^^  ;D


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: haydent on July 03, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
what a load of crap, its called pyramid marketing scheme, why would he need your money to double if he could just use his own ?? its so he can use your money to pay others that payd b4 you and so on. but prob is when no one joins, no one gets paid...


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Oldminer on July 03, 2011, 03:37:40 AM
what a load of crap, its called pyramid marketing scheme, why would he need your money to double if he could just use his own ?? its so he can use your money to pay others that payd b4 you and so on. but prob is when no one joins, no one gets paid...

You sayin' we're all gonna get raped  :o

edit: Pyramids are ok as long as your not left sitting on the pointy bit at the top


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: haydent on July 03, 2011, 03:39:01 AM
!!!!!  DOUBLE RAPED !!!!!


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: hamburger on July 03, 2011, 03:40:12 AM
OK so people think my site is fake.
I am here to prove you all wrong.
Can someone please send me 0.01 BTC and I will double it.
I am doing this so people believe me. I don't know why people think it's a scam.
I will double anyones amount. If you have a lot of BTC please send 0.01 BTC to my address below. I would not scam someone out of that little!
With the attitude some of you people have,not to move around BTC and not believing people with new ideas it will never grow!
1Bc22zWytZJKthixh9JaLYwZVGsHejouy7


my site http://www.wix.com/bitcoinbuilder/bitcoin-builder (password to enter the "enter here" page is "betatest")

So can someone send me this small amount so I can prove it right here,right now.

Well, he/she is at least honest by stating up front, in his/her own words "I would not scam someone out of that little!", I wonder what the limit is!


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: fascistmuffin on July 03, 2011, 03:40:45 AM
what a load of crap, its called pyramid marketing scheme, why would he need your money to double if he could just use his own ?? its so he can use your money to pay others that payd b4 you and so on. but prob is when no one joins, no one gets paid...

Pyramid scheme involves people join under others while the funds move up the tree of people to the original. So far it doesn't look like any pyramid is forming. What you described is more of an advanced-fee fraud.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: hamburger on July 03, 2011, 03:45:50 AM
what a load of crap, its called pyramid marketing scheme, why would he need your money to double if he could just use his own ?? its so he can use your money to pay others that payd b4 you and so on. but prob is when no one joins, no one gets paid...

Pyramid scheme involves people join under others while the funds move up the tree of people to the original. So far it doesn't look like any pyramid is forming. What you described is more of an advanced-fee fraud.

True, I remember a few years back while e-gold was used for these type of entertainment sites, a guy called Fred Schrock was locked away for doing this.
 


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: dcrafti on July 03, 2011, 03:56:02 AM
This is not a pyramid scheme.

I guarantee (not literally) that oldminer will get his money back, plus the promised extra.

That's because it is a Ponzi scheme. The first several investors will all get back their money, because it is initially about building up trust, and once the trust is there, more people, including the original people, will put in bigger amounts than the .01 he is asking for now.

Eventually, he pisses off with all the money that is left "invested" in the system. A higher proportion of people lose money in a Ponzi scheme than in a Pyramid scheme, because BitcoinBuilder is the the only one being given money, as opposed to a Pyramid scheme where the people higher up still end up making something.

So in short, it is totally a scam; just not the one that some people are thinking.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: haydent on July 03, 2011, 03:59:25 AM
yer, im not up with the terminology, but the OP should go and get a job and stop degrading our intellectual conversations about jack


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: dustintrammell on July 03, 2011, 04:11:56 AM
what a load of crap, its called pyramid marketing scheme, why would he need your money to double if he could just use his own ?? its so he can use your money to pay others that payd b4 you and so on. but prob is when no one joins, no one gets paid...
edit: Pyramids are ok as long as your not left sitting on the pointy bit at the top

Actually, the pointy bit at the top is where you want to be in a pyramid scheme.  Everyone under you in the pyramid has paid into the pyramid and the funds flow upward.

I fail to see how this could be a pyramid scheme though, because generally in a pyramid scheme you require the people you brought in to bring in the same number of people below them, hence the pyramid shape.  Unless he's asking you to, once you've paid in, go find more people to pay in, it doesn't make any sense; he has to find ALL the people to pay in, which will take way too long and not pay out within any reasonable amount of time, thus destroying any confidence the early-adopters had in the scheme.

References:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme)
http://www.sec.gov/answers/pyramid.htm (http://www.sec.gov/answers/pyramid.htm)


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: dustintrammell on July 03, 2011, 04:14:44 AM
This is not a pyramid scheme.

I guarantee (not literally) that oldminer will get his money back, plus the promised extra.

That's because it is a Ponzi scheme. The first several investors will all get back their money, because it is initially about building up trust, and once the trust is there, more people, including the original people, will put in bigger amounts than the .01 he is asking for now.

Eventually, he pisses off with all the money that is left "invested" in the system. A higher proportion of people lose money in a Ponzi scheme than in a Pyramid scheme, because BitcoinBuilder is the the only one being given money, as opposed to a Pyramid scheme where the people higher up still end up making something.

So in short, it is totally a scam; just not the one that some people are thinking.

Bingo, we have a winner (:  If this is a scam, you've likely described it exactly.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: haydent on July 03, 2011, 04:15:08 AM
i think we already agreed it wasnt a pyramid scheme. scam none the less.

btw where's this proof ? the thread title implies there is proof but he has none... gay


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: dustintrammell on July 03, 2011, 04:25:24 AM
btw where's this proof ? the thread title implies there is proof but he has none... gay

His "proof" will be the initial people he talked into trying it confirming that they did indeed receive twice their BTC back.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: fascistmuffin on July 03, 2011, 04:38:50 AM
btw where's this proof ? the thread title implies there is proof but he has none... gay

His "proof" will be the initial people he talked into trying it confirming that they did indeed receive twice their BTC back.

Yep, if it's a Ponzi that'll follow the precedent of the scheme.

If he really wanted to prove that it worked, he'd say how he's generating the funds. I doubt that'll happen though.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: getbitcoin on July 03, 2011, 04:40:11 AM
Obvious scam is obvious.



Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: haydent on July 03, 2011, 04:46:50 AM
he shouldnt act like he has proof when he doesnt yet... i think he's trying to trick us  ???


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: MotorMouth on July 03, 2011, 06:16:53 AM
This is a common con-game.  You meet a guy at a bar, he tells you he knows some stocks secret, and if you give him $10 he'll give you $20.

In a week you seem him again, here's your 20.

Do it again with 100.  He gives you 200...

Do it again with 500, he gives you 1000.

Then a few weeks go by and you dont' see him.

You see him again, and he's going oh man, I've got this great deal, I'm putting everything I got into it, and you go "I want in" and he goes "oh no, this one's too big for you, you need at least 40k in, and I'd feel bad if something went wrong..." and you go "no fuck that, you're good I want in" and so you give him everything you've got, mortgage the house, etc... and poof, the guy vanishes.  This is CLASSIC.

For small fees they come in good, but for large one's they game you.  If he can just double his money, then what's he fucking around with us for?  ;)

Edit: My bad, didn't realize there was a second page. ::)  Also it's called "Ponzi"? Gotcha. ;D


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: saykor on July 03, 2011, 07:13:46 AM
Why you not send me 0.02 and i will back you 0.01 to double it?


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: tc2606 on July 03, 2011, 08:32:09 AM
i smell an obvious scam.. what's the most someone here paid him


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: wolf902 on July 03, 2011, 10:57:25 AM
so...is it a scam or not? (people who attempted it)


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Duffman on July 03, 2011, 11:16:55 AM
Why you not send me 0.02 and i will back you 0.01 to double it?
this actually made me laugh :D


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: MrWizard on July 03, 2011, 11:26:24 AM
Obvious a Ponzi scheme, but I had good laugh reading all the comments.  :D


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: raresaturn on July 03, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
can we just skip the part where I send you .01 and you just send me the .01 that you would have had to pay me anyway?

1LVHHUTyyndSDKgripxBa6BBGSmLEdcgBR

thanks.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Sovereign on July 03, 2011, 11:55:16 AM
Ban.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: fascistmuffin on July 03, 2011, 03:15:39 PM
He just told me the way he was getting the money and planning to double investments. I said earlier that I wouldn't spill the secret, but I really want to post that message since it was very funny.

I can say that, assuming if he's telling the truth, it's not a ponzi scheme... but is not quite legit either. The way he was wording the message makes me question if he was telling the truth or not though.

Oh well, I guess I paid 0.1BTC for a pretty funny PM though.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Oldminer on July 03, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
I have some bad news..As much as you might think this is a scam. It is not. I made a mistake and lost the Bitcoins. I could of taken your Bitcoins and deleted my account, that would of been a scam. What I did was I attempted to double your Bitcoins. But I lost them in the process. You are probably asking yourself how. Well I thought if I bet the Bitcoins on bitcoin-kamikaze.com and cashed out on every level, I would come out on top. It worked in the beginning but I then starting losing..
I am sorry I lost them even that little amount. I just wanted to tell you this is not a scam. The other problem is that when you guys sent the Bitcoins to my address in MyBitcoin it said a P2P user and not your address. I even tried getting your Bitcoins back by sacrificing some of my own.. I was legit but my "investment" theory was bad.

So there you go. I guess at least the guy offered an explanation & apologised BUT bottom line is this was just a silly scheme. If your going to tell people your going to offer them x amount return then you need to be able to do that whatever the outcome of your 'scheme' ie you need a backup plan. Still, the whole notion of 'gambling' to repay a 'loan' is just wrong on so many levels.

My tip to the OP:

- Learn from this outcome and quit now before you start 'gambling' away large amounts of other people's money. From what I heard, jail's not much fun....


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: bitlotto on July 03, 2011, 06:55:54 PM
He was just gambling with everyone's BTC!!  :o
Holy crap!!


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Olly_K on July 04, 2011, 01:38:11 AM
lol....just....lol


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: skottiejay on July 04, 2011, 03:04:47 AM
OK so people think my site is fake.
I am here to prove you all wrong.
Can someone please send me 0.01 BTC and I will double it.
I am doing this so people believe me. I don't know why people think it's a scam.
I will double anyones amount. If you have a lot of BTC please send 0.01 BTC to my address below. I would not scam someone out of that little!
With the attitude some of you people have,not to move around BTC and not believing people with new ideas it will never grow!
1Bc22zWytZJKthixh9JaLYwZVGsHejouy7


my site http://www.wix.com/bitcoinbuilder/bitcoin-builder (password to enter the "enter here" page is "betatest")

So can someone send me this small amount so I can prove it right here,right now.

Tell ya what broseif, I'll send you the money as soon as my poor notebook, with intel graphics, trying to run a cpu miner and barely making any coinage gets that high.

Or I won't, how exactly are you going to double it?

Pictures would be better proof imho. :o


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 04, 2011, 03:08:12 AM
Sad ending :(


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: lowlevel on July 08, 2011, 07:05:01 AM
I hope no one sent him anything.. because *I* can triple them. j/k  :D

-lowlevel


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: SimplePanda on July 08, 2011, 07:08:56 AM
Guys it's not a "pyramid" "scheme"... It's a "triangular" "opportunity".

Credit to Simpsons. I'm here all week.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: g33kdrummer on November 21, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
he ripped me off of .1 BTC


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: lerelerele on November 21, 2013, 12:17:57 AM
lol if you can double my bitcoins ¿Why dont you double yours?


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: monbux on November 21, 2013, 12:22:23 AM
lol if you can double my bitcoins ¿Why dont you double yours?

Do you guys notice that this thread is over 2 years old?
Don't necro a 2 year old thread guys.


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Firedrake on November 21, 2013, 12:22:47 AM
This is a 2 year old thread...


Title: Re: I can double your BTC - Proof!
Post by: Deathwing on November 21, 2013, 12:23:22 AM
2 year old thread, why do you do this...