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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: bitlotto on July 03, 2011, 08:24:51 PM



Title: [LUCKY HEX] - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 03, 2011, 08:24:51 PM
Over. Not really enough interest to make it worth the extra time. Maybe another day!



Title: Re: Lucky Hex - Bet 0.05 for a 1/8 chance to win 0.38
Post by: Sukrim on July 04, 2011, 12:31:16 PM
"Only" 5% fee was what you forgot to mention! ;)


Title: Re: Lucky Hex - Bet 0.05 for a 1/8 chance to win 0.38
Post by: Reikoku on July 04, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
"Only" 5% fee was what you forgot to mention! ;)

It's a 2.5% fee.

Income 0.40
Outgoing 0.38


Title: Re: Lucky Hex - Bet 0.05 for a 1/8 chance to win 0.38
Post by: bitlotto on July 04, 2011, 10:06:58 PM
So far...(to help those who play figure out if they won)
1st ticket: 2 is your pick
next block is 134703 and last 2 digits are: 9, b
No win.
2nd ticket: 1 is your pick
next block is 134704 and last 2 digits are: 7,6
No win.
3rd ticket must wait till another transaction shows...
(if none in a few days I'll pay 0.01 to force a new block)



Title: Re: Lucky Hex - Bet 0.05 for a 1/8 chance to win 0.38
Post by: bitlotto on July 07, 2011, 09:51:20 PM
1JpqBHN...won .38 with tx b2fd5c76f9... because next unique block listed ended in ...cb


Title: Re: Lucky Hex - Bet 0.05 for a 1/8 chance to win 0.38
Post by: tysat on July 09, 2011, 07:03:42 AM
Going to put in an entry or two for fun.... but waiting for a block on the first one before sending the next.


Title: Re: Lucky Hex - Bet 0.05 for a 1/8 chance to win 0.38
Post by: bitlotto on July 09, 2011, 12:51:59 PM
I sent 0.01. The last 0.05 was a loser. 1/12 won...I'm sure one will win again soon.  ;)


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: bitlotto on July 11, 2011, 03:34:54 AM
Upped the price to .1 to enter. 770% return. People who send .05 will still get the .38 though. Good luck all!


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: tysat on July 11, 2011, 06:35:36 AM
Well I put in two more entries.... so we shall see.


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: MasonIII on July 11, 2011, 06:43:50 AM
Put in 3 too.  Hopefully i'll go 3/3 ? (: hahah, ridiculously lucky there

Just curious, how is this a 1/8 odds?


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: tysat on July 11, 2011, 06:59:15 AM
Put in 3 too.  Hopefully i'll go 3/3 ? (: hahah, ridiculously lucky there

Just curious, how is this a 1/8 odds?

2 * 1/16 = 1/8

You have two chances to match your hex.


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: MasonIII on July 11, 2011, 07:05:37 AM
Why is it 1/16?  Sorry if I'm missing something obvious


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: tysat on July 11, 2011, 07:11:48 AM
Why is it 1/16?  Sorry if I'm missing something obvious

Hex has 16 characters and it's pretty much random.


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: MasonIII on July 11, 2011, 07:37:28 AM
O duh. THanks for the clarification, don't know how I managed to overlook that fact


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%
Post by: bitlotto on July 11, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
Put in 3 too.  Hopefully i'll go 3/3 ? (: hahah, ridiculously lucky there

Just curious, how is this a 1/8 odds?

I'm guessing your bets were in Block 135727. They lost!  :'(
Next block was Block 135763 and it ended in 0,1
None of the inputs had a 0 or 1 as the first digit.




Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 12, 2011, 10:58:48 PM
14HHEY... wins with tx b40bfae0df... because next block ended in 0, b


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: Konzul on July 13, 2011, 01:59:02 AM
14HHEY... wins with tx b40bfae0df... because next block ended in 0, b


Oh nice!! I just won 0.77 BTC!!! Thanks bitlotto!


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: Konzul on July 13, 2011, 11:46:31 AM
And now trying two more times, someone has to bankrupt bitlotto ;)


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 13, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
And now trying two more times, someone has to bankrupt bitlotto ;)
LOL. Done. I'm pretty much broke. My % for all my stuff is pretty much so low right now I just have enough to pay hosting/domain etc. If my games get big one day hopefully I have a tiny bit to spare.


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 14, 2011, 12:05:49 AM
19h6Y2... wins .77 with tx of efa19645de... because next block has 1, e at the end.


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: PandaMiner on July 14, 2011, 06:48:05 AM
What happens if BOTH hexes match the tx (transaction) number? Is there a double payout? Hmm?  :P

Just curious, how is this a 1/8 odds?
2 * 1/16 = 1/8

You have two chances to match your hex.

I think your math is off, but it might be in error of the player, so I won't press the matter.

EDIT:

Your math is in error of the house... when both hex digits match! (because I assume there is no double payout)

The real formula is therefore:


   (n * ß) - (n - P)
----------------------
             ßn


ß = base number system (# digits in system),
n = number of "places" player can win in,
P = number of paid matches. [say if all "places" match, how many times do you get paid?]

So, if we plug in the numbers, and then simplify, we get....


(2 * 16) - (2 - 1)                  31                     1
-------------------       =       -----       =        -----
          162                          256                  8.26




Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: Konzul on July 14, 2011, 08:55:51 AM
19h6Y2... wins .77 with tx of efa19645de... because next block has 1, e at the end.

I feel slightly guilty here ;). I had put in a couple of more bets and have won again!

Are you doing that all by hand or do you have it automated? Seems like a lot of work. Can't you integrate it into your bitlotto website?


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 14, 2011, 08:46:04 PM
19h6Y2... wins .77 with tx of efa19645de... because next block has 1, e at the end.

I feel slightly guilty here ;). I had put in a couple of more bets and have won again!

Are you doing that all by hand or do you have it automated? Seems like a lot of work. Can't you integrate it into your bitlotto website?
Ya, I do it by hand. It's not THAT popular so it doesn't take me long. I just hover over all the blocks to see the hex then look at the previous transactions. Guess I have to earn my tiny cut! ;)


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: PandaMiner on July 14, 2011, 09:07:55 PM
bitlotto, are you going to answer my previous post?  What happens, in the rare case that, both numbers match the TX first digit? There's only 1 in 256 chance of that happening.


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 14, 2011, 09:35:09 PM
bitlotto, are you going to answer my previous post?  What happens, in the rare case that, both numbers match the TX first digit? There's only 1 in 256 chance of that happening.
Right now, its still .77 even if both "rolls" are what you need. I could change that I guess but the .77 would have to go down... Do you think it's worth changing?


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: PandaMiner on July 14, 2011, 11:35:15 PM
No, just acknowledging it is fine.  The odds are still pretty good.. 1 in 8.26, just be exact. :p


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 14, 2011, 11:59:37 PM
No, just acknowledging it is fine.  The odds are still pretty good.. 1 in 8.26, just be exact. :p
Sorry, right now I have a headache so bad my vision is going blurry...so excuse the present dumbness but:
Wouldn't P be 2 since either place can win. Even if they are the same we still look at them and each one can win even though we aren't increasing the payout.


Title: Re: formula
Post by: PandaMiner on July 15, 2011, 12:07:14 AM
Wouldn't P be 2 since either place can win. Even if they are the same we still look at them and each one can win even though we aren't increasing the payout.

Nah. I hear ya, but that is why there is an "n" in the top right too.  "n" places to win on, but only "P" gets paid... so if all "n" places turns out to be the identical number, only "P" times will the jackpot be paid.  In this case, it's 2 minus 1.  Out of the 2 spots, only 1 gets paid at any given time, even if both spots have the same winning hex.

I spent over 35 minutes figuring out a formula that is scalable. Feel free to play with the numbers, you'll see it works for all base numbers and paid places!! (I'm pretty proud of that)

Try these numbers:
base 10 [0 - 9], 2 spots, 1 paid    = 19:100 (1 in 5.26)
base 8, 2 spots, 1 paid                = 15:64 (1 in 4.27)
base 16, 3 spots, 1 paid              = 46:4096 (1 in 89)
base 2 [binary], 3 spots, 1 paid   =  4:8 (1 in 2)
base 16, 2, 2                             = 32:256 (1 in 8 for single payout, 1 in 256 for double payout)

It works. The formula.  I do think it's easier to just pay out for any one instance.


Title: Re: UPDATED Lucky Hex - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: bitlotto on July 16, 2011, 12:59:51 AM
1Az5sgYz... wins with 3a6cebd165...


Title: Re: [LUCKY HEX] - Bet 0.1 for a 1/8 chance to win 770%!!!
Post by: Konzul on July 16, 2011, 08:07:32 AM
Grats to 1Az5sgYz! I am delighted to say that it's not me this time... But I have already made a few more bets ;)