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The manager "Ehrhc" is very unfriendly and threatens anybody who questions when they will get paid that their payment will get held for 2 weeks:
https://i.imgur.com/1fcY6DT.png

His profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094085

Archived link to the ann:
http://archive.is/7BmP5
Archived link to the bounty:
http://archive.is/GbrtH

I get that English isn't his first language, by the looks of it his first language is Russian which is fine.

When asked if the funds for the bounty are escrowed this is the reply:
https://i.imgur.com/YipbiX9.png

When going to page 2-3 nothing about funds is found.

He also guaranteed me payment on the 16th:
https://i.imgur.com/nrEvq72.png

I have yet to receive payment:
https://blockchain.info/address/1MrGoat6h5stSxHoVrSw1Dq2kMKaNwm65P

He claims the payments are 80% done:
https://i.imgur.com/MAr6zF3.png

But none of the addresses on the first page have received their payment.

When checking the WHOIS for their website I saw they use WHOIS Guard:
https://www.whois.com/whois/projectc.io

So they don't want to be known.

Their ICO also doesn't have a whitepaper.

I will post more if needed, I will also update the post if I get paid by them.

Edit:
Removed all the img tags because it made the thread hard to read.

Edit 2:
He added this to the ann thread:
https://i.imgur.com/LPCcTaO.png

Edit 3:
The developer now claims Lauda and mprep are blackmailing him but he provides no proof to support this.
http://archive.is/CXzTU
http://archive.is/j6nh8

Edit 4:
I think this is one of their staff members saying some people will get paid and other's won't even though this was never disclosed in the initial thread.
http://archive.is/iX4ki

Edit 5:
Onionpealer is most likely and alt of Ehrhc, bottom of the thread:
http://archive.is/v9r2F

Onionpealer didn't read the thread he was using as source properly and made a mistake, he admitted this here at the second last reply:
http://archive.is/rm0jk

Edit 6:
Apparently not everybody has updated their work yet so he is delaying it again:
http://archive.is/BwEO0

Edit 7:
Still not payment, but now he is going to make a list of all people who annoyed and tried to scam them:
https://i.imgur.com/oJkUb2Z.png
http://archive.is/Kn0Kw

Edit 8:
I just saw this pdf of their ICO with them claiming that Satoshi Nakamoto works for their project:
https://i.imgur.com/9Ct4j8J.png
http://projectc.io/The_Cryptocurrency_ICO_Best_Described_as_Mysterious_and_Unique_Announces_Its_Soft_Cap_Reached_with_A_Total_Investment_Of.pdf

Edit 9:
He said he isn't going to pay anybody because apparently we are all scammers:
http://archive.is/DZaU4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494876.msg26833413#msg26833413

It does sound familiar behavior for a scam ICO. The trouble is, even when these people are pointed out and the scam is busted, they will just go on to produce another one under the cloak of anonymity. Unless you can prove, without doubt, the people behind these coins then it is best to stay well clear. Don't believe a few names and biographies on a staff page, because they have been faked so much in the past. This seems like the actions of someone who wants to keep the scam running as long as possible.

I added more proof to the thread:
https://i.imgur.com/LPCcTaO.png

I doubt I will be getting paid.

it looks like a very interesting social experiment on the crypto community  ;D

I'm just a beginner, so I can't say if something is a scam or not.
I hope to become a full member, so I'll can participate to the promotion, but... if - as I can see here - real experts with a lot of experience in crypto can be scammed, what are the chances for a newbee to find the right offer to promote?

what do you think if C bounty paid?
i think C bounty has smart and complex rule that somebody not easy to understand

Well, as you can see I promoting C ico; I don't know what to say, this is may first project - the only one that accepts jr. members - and it would be very unpleasent to be scammed on the first try....:(
We'll see, I'm trying to be optimistic!

yes I am also seeing a doubts in my head, but trying to remain positive. I will give them another day or two, before throwing in the towel.  Its a shame, a little more transparency and friendly attitude could have made this much bigger than it already is.

An update from the campaign manager.

Thanks for telling me.

He can just show a random address with 8 BTC in it.

The amount of participants and the bounties that have to be paid go way over 8 BTC.

Just be patient. Give him a chance. 72 hours isn't over yet. Tomorrow is the big day. We'll see if he's going to do what he promised. All eyes on him tomorrow.  :)

He has had enough time.

I'd like to start to promote, as it's the only one that accepts newbees, but... may be this is just a scam warning!
I don't know what to do, as it seems that also experimented members have difficulties to judge.
I'll wait until tomorrow, and just see what happens

More proof has been added to the thread.

If this is your idea of more proof - a one line post by me being optimistic and hoping for my payment, then your entire investigation is a bigger scam/sham than C.

If you were pointing to Mila's post, it is very vague and no one can understand what the hell these Russians/Eastern europeans mean.

Dont think so much. Save your energy (perhaps direct it towards better things) and have patience and the truth will always be revealed.

I hope C is not a scam since I put in a fair amount of time into their Bounty campaigns, but until I receive my payment I cannot be sure. If my payment isn't here in the next 48 hours, I am jumping the fence over to your side Mr. Goat. :)

It wasn't directed towards you, archive.is doesn't go to the post linked.

It was directed to Mila's post.

And what to do then..? We just can be patient if we're not getting paid. let's jump to another campaign that more trusty, don't be trapped to the same hole.. i'm not sure we're getting paid since i see the negative trust on Ehrhc account by Vod, Lauda and mprep.

I don't think we need any 'proof' to prove that.
It is certainly a scam.  Every sane person can tell that.

i go with you.. there's no responsibility from the manager on C project (Ehrhc).. i feel so stupid to join on his bounty campaign.. there no worth thing at all.. just wasting of time..

Luckily no one really got scammed for more than 100 dollar.

because they are consious that project mostly scam, there no specific whitepaper, roadmap, etc. i think there no reason to believe it as investment. most of investors need the real proof to be attracted in investment.

On their website the whitepaper link links to the Bitcoin whitepaper.

Really? i never checked it before.. it is enough as the proof of that project being scam.. i also don't believe if the moderator give Ehrhc negative trust with no reason, moreover they who gave the trust are mostly trusted on this forum.

Why are you still wearing his signature and even asking him, whether you may put off his signature?


You already sorted out logically, that this is scam.

Because in the off chance he is going to pay I want to be paid as well which isn't possible without the signature.

Also, I like your signature.

they waste our time to this scammer c campaign i already know this is a scam because they delaying the payment for our bounty. im so sad because they are so lier my god im crying now. >:( >:( >:(

Click the link in my signature. Leads to your thread, lol.
Only couldn't cover the tag.

But maybe loudmouth will get a nice surprise.

I saw it, thanks for informing more people about this.

Sorry,, i've been update my signature.  ;D

Don't console yourself by saying it is only a "delay".

I have posted on day 1 that this ICO is scam.The scammer doesn't even have even a single satoshi..I challenged him to post a signed message from his wallet to prove his balance..instead of proving he is was diverting the topic with lame excuses
The scammer thought he will get some btc from his scam ICO and will pay the bounties

Suggestion to Mods/Admin: The only way to stop scams is ban selling/trading of accounts and implement secondary authentication/F2A auth (to prevent hacking/stealing of accounts)

Hey OP. Why are you still wearing their official signature if you already knew that their project is a "sCam". You even started this whole thread. You're giving yourself a false hope.  ??? ::)

Because if they do decide to pay I need to wear their signature.

If I don't wear it I can't check my own address for payment.

How much time are you going to give them before you forget about it and move on?

Until he posts that he has paid everybody and I haven't gotten paid yet.

LOL..both will not happen and you are fooling yourself !

The last thing he will say is ,"everyone will get paid..but in C coins ! (Look ,I am paying you,I am not a scammer)"

Why would Ehrhc pay another anything? He got only a few bucks from his tedious work.
If you fell C is funny, fine, but if you are fool enough to believe you can get free money from it, you are totally wrong.

The question is what if he did?  ???

He'll make everybody who's talking crap about him look like idiots who can't patiently wait.

Oh, and I'm not siding with anyone here. Just giving my opinion on this matter.

So you're gonna keep promoting a potential scam ICO in hope that somehow they will pay you?
I'd suggest to take off the signature and move on into another campaign that will pay you for sure.


Well, if we want to see it via positive mindset, yes, there are chance that they will pay their participants at the end of C campaign.
Then again, the campaign has been sketchy from the start, it has no roadmap, no escrow, not even a whitepaper, and their website is way too simple for ICO.

Question is, how positive are we gonna be to trust C with their promised payment with these red lights turning on :)

Well, it was suspicious but went along just for fucks anyway.  ;D The sig campaign itself was the weirdest I've seen, no spreadsheets, requiring participants to count their own posts, etc.

This sig I'm wearing is for the "second phase" of the campaign. Yup, he opened a new thread for that. I'm looking if something would also happen there and I'm in no hurry to change my sig.

Well, this is my first campaign and - as I started just two days ago, if it is a scam, my loss would be just...zero :-)

But I'm very surprised that - if it is the case - even members with knowledge and experience of the crypto market was scammed.

How is it possible? There is no a way to understand if a ICO is a scam?

More: if it's really a scam, it seems you know who the scammer is: you can't do anything to stop/punish him?

Sorry for these dumb questions, but I?m just trying to understand how the system works.

It has been 4 days now and he still hasn't paid anybody.

This scammer so no one was paid. 72 hours have long passed. I removed the signature and avatar from this Scam. And Ehrhc should be banned on the forum.

I was not of this campaign and I was not enticed with the big pay outs they have been given because I really thought that it would turn out to be a scam. Well, payment hasn't been paid so participants can really scream all over and accused those people behind that its a scam.

Its been 96 hours as per last updated. No spreadsheets to look and see who's who is supposedly getting paid and all he do is post update that they are still calculating the payments. 2 weeks of your work gone. I suggest you forgot about this project but I'm sure that this is a rude awakening for everyone.

Most people joining C campaign are aware that it is very possible a scam.
They joined it anyway, hoping there is still a little chance it being legit.

I added more proof to the thread.

He is now going to make a list of people who annoyed/tried to scam him.

I think it is time to let it go.
It is scam. That is the end.
Don't waste your time to prove anything, since it is a fact since its beginning.

He is just buying time and hyping up the project C thing to get the refund of his websites ( for sure he paid for that ) and to scam more investors, like does he even have a brain? He let the investment ( $5, $0.05$ ) because he assumes that the lower the investment fee the more the investors will come in, the more money he can scam, now he is buying time again to hype this up to hold the participants to continue on supporting this project.  Again, I will be one of the most happy person if i am proven to be wrong that C is not a scam but what can i do, he isn't paying those poor participants. I hope mods will lock the threads and ban Ehrhc.

As you said, he lose money to do this scam. That is sarcastic.

I'm just observing: as I said, I'm a beginner and this is the first campaing I partecipated, and really I don't know what to do, to insist or to go ahead with something different; in any case, I just started two days ago, so - if this is a scam - I don't suffer any loss.

Btw, just two questions:

a) if this is a scam, why so many members still have the C signature?

b) why nobody bans the starter of the campaign, as at present he has -16 trust point?

Just to know, I only want to learn what - in this place - is acceptable and what isn't.

1. Because people either don't know or they still hope to get paid.
2. Don't know.

Any news? I just did my little job, as I started just some days ago, but... what I read here is depressing.
Btw, at least I gained some experience.
More, as latin people said "spes ultima dea" (hope is the last goddess...)
So, we'll see.

Same structure of Bounty, Same date of website registration
Something is fishy.
https://i.imgur.com/RxXQytl.jpg

Seems like this person is not realy happy with you dude. Whats concerning is that they might give you a negative trust rating becuse of your feedback against them. The payment is fine if they dknt give it to you but the reputation you built for your account for a long time might now be at risk of being flagged.

I changed my signature and avatar.

I will no longer be promoting his scam.

Why moderators did not remove his thread? That many people have prove that he fool the participants or ban him for fooling and scamming a lot of people. why is that not happen?

No news so far except that they have remain silent regarding the payment for their participants.

You are a fool if you still believe that they will pay their participants, at this point the C campaign can easily be categorized as scam.

Don't waste your time on this campaign, remove it and try to join another campaign

Whatever his strategy it's somehow succeed with it because of the numbers of the participants that he used for free in his campaign and it's really annoying how he still fooling their participants in his daily update in OP. Can't imagine how he be so arrogant in his bashers and now let's see who will be running naked around the block.

It is not for free actually. He spent his time, or maybe paid for a website.

Thanks for this admin. I really wish they could have a good sleep after of what they've done. SICK~!

He said he isn't going to pay anybody because apparently we are all scammers:
http://archive.is/DZaU4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494876.msg26833413#msg26833413

That Logo look like ChainGroup scam site's logo, maybe linked
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/897099597276905472/SJrsHnjh.jpg

There are still many who still expect payment from the campaign, in vain they wait for the uncertain.....

He moves money for every three days from his wallet because they were getting Tons of Bitcoins per day. The signature rates were too high comparing to other signature campaigns. I don't think he will pay in the end of next 2018 also.

Of course he was paid for his job well done for fooling us yet he used participants for free but I'm confident that karma will serve what he deserve sooner not later.

 It should be my first ever BTC payment but HNRDev was suspected as Ehrhc, I should have known better. Now I'm free from Honor scam ICO.