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Title: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 17, 2017, 08:43:20 PM
Ouch. Tough to see such a reputable sportsbook going this route.  :-[

Talk about riding this BTC wave of profit, and then sticking it to your loyal customers  :o

I wonder how much this will tarnish their "A" rating?

Time to seriously reevaluate my betting options cause my system won't work with this new policy.

Come on Nitrogen- wake up and realize this is bad for business!  >:(



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Lionidas on December 17, 2017, 08:49:55 PM
They do offer one free withdrawal per week so it is not really sticking it to their loyal customers.
They have to do something so to keep up with the other casinos that are still using bitcoin for gambling. Which I would suspect them to start to offer more alternatives in the near future because of the very high rise in price in the past three months.
They did start offering to have bets lower than the 0.001btc minimum a while back if that helps any. :-\


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 17, 2017, 09:11:02 PM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
It's just not practical and since most of your remaining post was rambling, bottom line is I can not be the only one shocked by this new policy.



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Slark on December 17, 2017, 09:23:26 PM
Blame bitcoin network and insane high fee rates we currently have. This is our new reality - do you honestly think that any company will pay fees for you?
I acknowledge that $20 fee is kinda rough, especially for gamblers who like to bet low, with bitcoin price reaching $20k we will have even higher fees imposed by more an more casinos/sportsbooks.
From what I know you are able to withdraw one deposit for free every week - maybe scheduling your withdrawals to take advantage of this feature is a way to go?




Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 17, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
Do I honestly think that any company will pay my fees?
Poloniex (yes the exchange we all hate) charges $2 for Bitcoin withdrawls, or 10% of what Nitrogen charges.
Plus, there are other sportsbooks that don't charge for withdrawals.
Forget the small gamblers, Nitrogen doesn't care about them as much as the big players.  And some of us have business models that won't fair well with this new policy.
I'm not calling for a boycott by any means, just a little customer support for us loyal players that would like some sort of appreciation here.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: badjacks99 on December 17, 2017, 11:09:03 PM
I can definitely see both sides to this argument and they both have some truth and Merrit. Well I think they’re taking proper steps and letting you have one free one I think they should extend it to loyal customers and give you 3-4 weekly for free. I understand that casinos will need to charge a certain fee to withdraw, but this limitation keeps players bitcoin held hostage. Those who only have $20 to gamble with in bitcoin can’t afford A $20 fee so they wait. While waiting they might as well make some bets.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: CntryBoy on December 17, 2017, 11:32:35 PM
I can also see both sides of the argument here as well.  The sites don't have control over the ever rising network and mining fees, but some sort of happy medium would definitely be nice.  The one free weekly withdraw is definitely nice, but I think a lot of sited need to reevaluate their withdraw fees as a lot of sites currently have the same .001 BTC withdraw fee, which as mentioned is now roughly a $20 fee.  Sure we have the option not to play at these sites, but with very few good and legit sites to choose from these days, I guess we just have to deal with it for now.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: kristianbasdeo on December 17, 2017, 11:38:59 PM
Yeap they cannot control miners fees and that's why its costs are high, better wait til this problem is sovled and fees goes down again.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: ralle14 on December 17, 2017, 11:40:56 PM
They do offer one free withdrawal per week so it is not really sticking it to their loyal customers.
They have to do something so to keep up with the other casinos that are still using bitcoin for gambling. Which I would suspect them to start to offer more alternatives in the near future because of the very high rise in price in the past three months.
They did start offering to have bets lower than the 0.001btc minimum a while back if that helps any. :-\
It's only for loyal customers who mostly withdraws 0.005 btc. I don't mind Nitrogen charging all of us for the miner fees,  they should've added different options for the miner fee instead of charging everyone a fixed amount per transaction.

The minimum bet amount doesn't help anything about the withdrawal rules it only encourages you to empty your balance.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Rinsend on December 17, 2017, 11:46:28 PM

They did start offering to have bets lower than the 0.001btc minimum a while back if that helps any. :-\
this is really needed for all casinos.
when bitcoin prices are so crazy.
changing systems such as setting a minimum bet to a low will be much needed,
because otherwise.
it is not impossible if nitrogen will lose competitiveness with casinos that have low minimum bets.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: akamit on December 17, 2017, 11:55:59 PM
Do I honestly think that any company will pay my fees?
Poloniex (yes the exchange we all hate) charges $2 for Bitcoin withdrawls, or 10% of what Nitrogen charges.
Plus, there are other sportsbooks that don't charge for withdrawals.
Forget the small gamblers, Nitrogen doesn't care about them as much as the big players.  And some of us have business models that won't fair well with this new policy.
I'm not calling for a boycott by any means, just a little customer support for us loyal players that would like some sort of appreciation here.

Later or sooner all the casinos, dice sites & exchanges etc will increase their withdrawal fees for sure.
If the current transaction fees stays same as it is now. I will not blame any site for increasing their withdrawal fees.

As Nitrogen already offering 1 free withdrawal every week, I think that's kinda appreciation they are showing for loyal customers.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 18, 2017, 12:37:59 AM
All I'm saying is that if Nitrogen wants to continue to think that they are the industry leader, they need to be willing to compromise with their reputable players.

It makes no sense for me to have to win a $100 bet and give Nitrogen $20. 

This is after I ALREADY paid $20 to deposit my funds!  What about that factor that everyone is forgetting?

So in fact, it's costing me now $40 to make a bet at Nitrogen.  They need to bite the bullet on this one as I truly think it's a bad business move.

They are making a killing and I stand by what I said that this is a slap in the face to their loyal customers.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Groundbit on December 18, 2017, 01:18:26 AM
i was shocking to this new policy, for player who bet on microstake its killing me.. its very though to leave nitrogen.. but i have to


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: xYakult on December 18, 2017, 01:34:32 AM
All I'm saying is that if Nitrogen wants to continue to think that they are the industry leader, they need to be willing to compromise with their reputable players.

It makes no sense for me to have to win a $100 bet and give Nitrogen $20. 

This is after I ALREADY paid $20 to deposit my funds!  What about that factor that everyone is forgetting?

So in fact, it's costing me now $40 to make a bet at Nitrogen.  They need to bite the bullet on this one as I truly think it's a bad business move.

They are making a killing and I stand by what I said that this is a slap in the face to their loyal customers.

Sorry but seems you are forgeting that every bitcoin transaction needs a fee so miners will include your transaction in a block making in confirmed. Are you pointing here that since you are paying $20 to deposit money to them, they should cover withdrawal fees for you? Will that be fair to you? how about them? how many players are doing withdrawals daily? lets say 1000 withdrawals, then it will be $20,000 in bitcoin already. Do you think they will still be up and running if they are losing money just like that?


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: chris200x9 on December 18, 2017, 01:40:38 AM
i was shocking to this new policy, for player who bet on microstake its killing me.. its very though to leave nitrogen.. but i have to

If you bet small amount and every day if you withdraw small amount then casino need to pay the high transaction fees for each withdrawal. They are doing a business and you can't expect them to pay such high transaction fees for all small amounts. I understood that they are offering one free withdrawal every week then you have to collect all your winning for one week and go for a free withdrawal.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: DARKANGEL6415 on December 18, 2017, 06:06:04 AM
From what i read nitrogen will still offer theone free withdrawal option a week.  Now personally I think one rime a week free withdrawal is good. Granted two free withdrawal would be great for all and leave no room to complain.  Now i am not sure why people need withdrawal options EVERY day, it's not my concern but sure does look funny when people do this. If you are not a day Labour or 1099 independent contractor of the casino should be no reason to want free cash everyday. This of course is just my opinion so please save me all the hateful comments.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: madwica on December 18, 2017, 06:35:27 AM
It is ok to have withdrawal fees, i am using nitrogen site more than a year and enjoying free withdrawal fee, then now still they offering 1 time free withdrawal every week and i think it would help to make transaction faster because it will lessen the congestion of withdrawal in blockchain.
I think now a days, people using nitrogensports do 1 withdrawal in a week and didnt like the amount of transaction fee. 0.001 every withdrawal after you avail the free withdrawal fee.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: benmartin613 on December 18, 2017, 07:21:50 AM
Ouch. Tough to see such a reputable sportsbook going this route.  :-[

Talk about riding this BTC wave of profit, and then sticking it to your loyal customers  :o

I wonder how much this will tarnish their "A" rating?

Time to seriously reevaluate my betting options cause my system won't work with this new policy.

Come on Nitrogen- wake up and realize this is bad for business!  >:(



Its not the fault of nitrogen that there is a 20$ withdrawal fee, that fee goes to the bitcoin network, if you do a transaction outside nitrogen you will see that there is a high fee for transferring funds, eventually the fees will subside and turn back to normal.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: debuni on December 18, 2017, 07:26:31 AM
I find their withdrawal policy very fair.

Their are giving you one free withdraw every week.

Every exchange now is having similar or higher fees and you could blame the network state, not Nitrogen.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: kryptqnick on December 18, 2017, 08:33:10 AM
Ouch. Tough to see such a reputable sportsbook going this route.  :-[

Talk about riding this BTC wave of profit, and then sticking it to your loyal customers  :o

I wonder how much this will tarnish their "A" rating?

Time to seriously reevaluate my betting options cause my system won't work with this new policy.

Come on Nitrogen- wake up and realize this is bad for business!  >:(


Does this fee include the bitcoin transaction fee? Because those are pretty huge. I saw a $7 transaction and won't be surprised if now there are even $10 ones. Yet they surely should not charge people additionally. Do they? Or perhaps that was the fee for withdrawing a really big sum of money?
I guess it's time for casinos to slowly dump bitcoin and use other coins, so that people feel comfortable about gambling. Dogecoin is not developing, but it's still very good for gambling, as transactions proceed really fast and cheap. Let's hope nitrogen will make a step forward and list some other coins apart from btc.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: shimakun on December 18, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
i do not know what is going on
i really liked nitrogensports i even used to store some of coins in that wallet when it was free and used to transfer between them and localbitcoins

localbitcoins incoming transfers  now is around 13usd
nitrogensports  outgoing transferes 20 usd
if you use other free wallets online or something ans send with low miners fee you may wait days for confirmations
very annoying


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: steveabrahams on December 18, 2017, 12:06:11 PM
i do not know what is going on
i really liked nitrogensports i even used to store some of coins in that wallet when it was free and used to transfer between them and localbitcoins

localbitcoins incoming transfers  now is around 13usd
nitrogensports  outgoing transferes 20 usd
if you use other free wallets online or something ans send with low miners fee you may wait days for confirmations
very annoying


Dude you get 1 free withdrawal without fee once a week, so it's still fine imo. I think it's really normal happened, i mean look at the bitcoin fee right now. It's so damn ridiculous big for each transaction. In my opinion it's normal to happen based on the huge fee, i guess nitro cost many coins only from the fees.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: shimakun on December 18, 2017, 12:16:16 PM
i do not know what is going on
i really liked nitrogensports i even used to store some of coins in that wallet when it was free and used to transfer between them and localbitcoins

localbitcoins incoming transfers  now is around 13usd
nitrogensports  outgoing transferes 20 usd
if you use other free wallets online or something ans send with low miners fee you may wait days for confirmations
very annoying


Dude you get 1 free withdrawal without fee once a week, so it's still fine imo. I think it's really normal happened, i mean look at the bitcoin fee right now. It's so damn ridiculous big for each transaction. In my opinion it's normal to happen based on the huge fee, i guess nitro cost many coins only from the fees.
sure im not complaining about nitrogen as i do not blame them
but i mean the fee of bitcoin network lately



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Caladonian on December 18, 2017, 12:36:41 PM
i do not know what is going on
i really liked nitrogensports i even used to store some of coins in that wallet when it was free and used to transfer between them and localbitcoins

localbitcoins incoming transfers  now is around 13usd
nitrogensports  outgoing transferes 20 usd
if you use other free wallets online or something ans send with low miners fee you may wait days for confirmations
very annoying


Dude you get 1 free withdrawal without fee once a week, so it's still fine imo. I think it's really normal happened, i mean look at the bitcoin fee right now. It's so damn ridiculous big for each transaction. In my opinion it's normal to happen based on the huge fee, i guess nitro cost many coins only from the fees.
sure im not complaining about nitrogen as i do not blame them
but i mean the fee of bitcoin network lately


We can't do anything about that mate, its the system that we are using right now, I guess using the free withdrawal once a week will kee
players/gamblers to  stay with them, especially those who loves gamble with sports games, we needed to adjust about this and consider
that Nitro needs to do something about the high fee.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: XarXymtroa on December 18, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
i do not know what is going on
i really liked nitrogensports i even used to store some of coins in that wallet when it was free and used to transfer between them and localbitcoins

localbitcoins incoming transfers  now is around 13usd
nitrogensports  outgoing transferes 20 usd
if you use other free wallets online or something ans send with low miners fee you may wait days for confirmations
very annoying


Dude you get 1 free withdrawal without fee once a week, so it's still fine imo. I think it's really normal happened, i mean look at the bitcoin fee right now. It's so damn ridiculous big for each transaction. In my opinion it's normal to happen based on the huge fee, i guess nitro cost many coins only from the fees.
sure im not complaining about nitrogen as i do not blame them
but i mean the fee of bitcoin network lately


We can't do anything about that mate, its the system that we are using right now, I guess using the free withdrawal once a week will kee
players/gamblers to  stay with them, especially those who loves gamble with sports games, we needed to adjust about this and consider
that Nitro needs to do something about the high fee.

Looks like I'm not the only person who has a problem with Nitrogen new withdrawal policy. Up until last week, they were still paying the network fees but now they are just being greedy.   


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: valta4065 on December 18, 2017, 02:28:02 PM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
It's just not practical and since most of your remaining post was rambling, bottom line is I can not be the only one shocked by this new policy.



Whatever you say kiddo...

It is ridiculous to make daily btc withdrawals. It's simply agianst the very nature of bitcoin.
We should all keep in mind that the network is NOT made to be used 5 times a day by everyone. You should use the network only for important value movement, not to pay your bread on a daily basis.
It's not visa guys, it's just not made to handle billions of transactions every day.

And the more you spam the more you pay!


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: milewilda on December 18, 2017, 03:03:02 PM
I can definitely see both sides to this argument and they both have some truth and Merrit. Well I think they’re taking proper steps and letting you have one free one I think they should extend it to loyal customers and give you 3-4 weekly for free. I understand that casinos will need to charge a certain fee to withdraw, but this limitation keeps players bitcoin held hostage. Those who only have $20 to gamble with in bitcoin can’t afford A $20 fee so they wait. While waiting they might as well make some bets.
This would be most likely the case on most gamblers which if they wont really gamble on the withdrawal fee then they would really still decide to hold up until the fees would be corrected. I dont see anything wrong with gambling sites or  deserve to be blamed because we do know the actual rate of fees as of now which they would really charged up players because if they would decide to pay up those ridiculous fees for their players then its really a big expense for them.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: lite on December 18, 2017, 04:00:17 PM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
They probably were taking loss by giving free withdrawals, with bitcoin price at $19k they can't continue i guess. they could however have other withdrawal options, like pool it and send withdrawals every 6 hours, 12 hours etc.. more you want to wait, lesser the fees(could work!). or they could let users choose the fees?

Whatever you say kiddo...

It is ridiculous to make daily btc withdrawals. It's simply agianst the very nature of bitcoin.
We should all keep in mind that the network is NOT made to be used 5 times a day by everyone. You should use the network only for important value movement, not to pay your bread on a daily basis.
It's not visa guys, it's just not made to handle billions of transactions every day.

And the more you spam the more you pay!
Bitcoin is made do daily transactions, but with the current price and high network/miner fee one can't. i used to make lots of transactions back in 2013, fee wasn't high back then. but this fee problem can be solved with increased blocksize.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: valta4065 on December 18, 2017, 04:04:02 PM

Bitcoin is made do daily transactions, but with the current price and high network/miner fee one can't. i used to make lots of transactions back in 2013, fee wasn't high back then. but this fee problem can be solved with increased blocksize.

No it is not!
The idea behind current bitcoin network is that the number of transactions per second is limited while the number of users is only growing.
So if everyone would use btc on a daily basis, even making just one transaction a day, then the network wouldn't be able to handle even half of those transactions and they would all stock up day after day.

That's why fees are here, not to pay the miners but simply to auto regulate the use of the network. So that no one uses the network to send 1$ because that would cost him 10 times the amount to do the transaction.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: amacar2 on December 18, 2017, 04:05:50 PM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
It's just not practical and since most of your remaining post was rambling, bottom line is I can not be the only one shocked by this new policy.


The one who is making daily withdrawals might not get offended by this new rule as he will surely have really high amount of money so $20 might still be less than 1% of the amount they want to withdraw and they can easily pay this to get faster confirmation.

Mempool is full and nitrogensports or any other gambling platform don't want to put money from their own pocket on those transactions fee which is really high right now.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: winbig777 on December 18, 2017, 05:00:10 PM
Local bookies only allow you to settle once per week, and sometimes they don't even pay you, when you win. At least Nitrogen always pays, much better than alternatives. You'd rather bet worthless depreciating dollars? Hell no


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: xYakult on December 18, 2017, 05:09:03 PM
i do not know what is going on
i really liked nitrogensports i even used to store some of coins in that wallet when it was free and used to transfer between them and localbitcoins

localbitcoins incoming transfers  now is around 13usd
nitrogensports  outgoing transferes 20 usd
if you use other free wallets online or something ans send with low miners fee you may wait days for confirmations
very annoying


Dude you get 1 free withdrawal without fee once a week, so it's still fine imo. I think it's really normal happened, i mean look at the bitcoin fee right now. It's so damn ridiculous big for each transaction. In my opinion it's normal to happen based on the huge fee, i guess nitro cost many coins only from the fees.
sure im not complaining about nitrogen as i do not blame them
but i mean the fee of bitcoin network lately


We can't do anything about that mate, its the system that we are using right now, I guess using the free withdrawal once a week will kee
players/gamblers to  stay with them, especially those who loves gamble with sports games, we needed to adjust about this and consider
that Nitro needs to do something about the high fee.

Looks like I'm not the only person who has a problem with Nitrogen new withdrawal policy. Up until last week, they were still paying the network fees but now they are just being greedy.   

They are not being greedy, they just stopped being so generous to pay all user's withdrawal or it will cost them so big amount. Imagine how many players are doing withdrawal daily when it is still free of transaction fee? Lets say only 1,000 withdrawals daily, do you like covering $20,000 daily just for transaction fees? Are you on your right mind? Just be thankful they are still giving 1 free withdrawal weekly


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: SyGambler on December 18, 2017, 05:10:42 PM
at the moment the best thing to do is only to leave what you want to gamble in the site to avoid the need of making daily withdrawals
and you can go for the weekly free withdrawal when you want to withdraw without paying extra fees
it's  a reasonable move from nitrogen , it doesnt make sense for them to keep paying for fees at this point especially that the average gamblers wager less than 100$ on matches

glad that they aren't delaying the withdrawals or raising the min withdrawal as some sites are doing these days


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: FrueGreads on December 18, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
I was wondering when this would start to happen in the gambling world. I sure most gamblers use a small amount to to gamble, and normally don't keep huge amounts in the websites, so it would be hard for gambling providers to keep the withdrawal fees low. To be honest I think that this was a fair move from nitrogen, since they still allow one free withdrawal per week, so if just need to wait for that. It would be unsustainable for them to just keep paying fees for every withdrawal. The there possible solution would be to increase the minimum amount to withdraw, but I think that would be even worse. I'm also curious to see if they will start searching for other coins to offer their services. If gambling sites start doing this, I wonder if it will have any impact on the bitcoin price.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: veleten on December 18, 2017, 05:32:51 PM
20$ fees are outrageous,but look at the state of blockchain-130.000 unconfirmed transactions!
they do offer a single free payout per week,if Im not mistaken,though
so consolidate your payments and withdraw once a week,if that is an option for you
but I feel you,some sites have 40-60.000 satoshis withdrawal fixed fees and it sucks to pay 5-10% of your
balance to withdraw,to pay 100.000+ sucks even more


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: shimakun on December 18, 2017, 05:34:23 PM
I can definitely see both sides to this argument and they both have some truth and Merrit. Well I think they’re taking proper steps and letting you have one free one I think they should extend it to loyal customers and give you 3-4 weekly for free. I understand that casinos will need to charge a certain fee to withdraw, but this limitation keeps players bitcoin held hostage. Those who only have $20 to gamble with in bitcoin can’t afford A $20 fee so they wait. While waiting they might as well make some bets.
This would be most likely the case on most gamblers which if they wont really gamble on the withdrawal fee then they would really still decide to hold up until the fees would be corrected. I dont see anything wrong with gambling sites or  deserve to be blamed because we do know the actual rate of fees as of now which they would really charged up players because if they would decide to pay up those ridiculous fees for their players then its really a big expense for them.
yeah but what you are saying is  for the guys who already has coins in there
but for new depositors they will be charged miners fee for outgoing  transactions as well depend on the wallet but averaging 6 to 12 usd if they wanted the confirmations faster.
again the problem is not from nitrogensports but from the bitcoin network fee these days

so bitcoin these days is good not for paying or short term investments but for long term investments
for short term ees will eat a big amount of the amount


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: bering on December 18, 2017, 05:51:20 PM
i used to gamble with $20 for fun because this amount is not too high although if i'm lost then it's wouldn't problem for me but indeed only for withdrawal fee 0.001 btc or $20 is too high especially for low cost gamblers but they accept 1 free withdrawal per week then use this advantages for bulk withdrawal your funds however this is their main policy and as the players we can't do anything besides accept the rule


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Netnox on December 18, 2017, 06:01:46 PM
There is no point in blaming them. What they can do, when the bitcoin transaction fee is so high? I checked the average fees and the minimum amount required for instant confirmation has increased to around 600 Sat/Byte (all time high?). And it is not just Nitrogen. Have you checked the withdrawal fee at cryptopia? It is close to $40 for a single transaction!!


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: nizamcc on December 18, 2017, 06:10:55 PM
There is no point in blaming them. What they can do, when the bitcoin transaction fee is so high? I checked the average fees and the minimum amount required for instant confirmation has increased to around 600 Sat/Byte (all time high?). And it is not just Nitrogen. Have you checked the withdrawal fee at cryptopia? It is close to $40 for a single transaction!!

Yeah, that's true man. They had been giving a lot of stuff for free, free bets, lotteries, stakes, free BTC on your parlay wins and many other freebies since the day they started and just because they started charging a fee for withdrawal, now this guy thinks that it's bad for their business? They had been allowing and processing withdrawals way quicker compared to other sportsbooks. And if users will ask for daily withdrawals, how will they manage to deal with the current fee slab that's hammering every bitcoiner around the globe? The step they have taken is much better because this way, they will cut their losses as well as none would now redeem daily and/or will keep their coins in the sportsbook itself.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: babygun on December 18, 2017, 07:17:10 PM
Although a 20$ withdrawal fee is high, especially for players who play with low amounts, but they still offer 1 free weekly withdrawal.
Personally, I don't see the benefit/use of withdrawing every day your bitcoins.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: betong on December 18, 2017, 10:08:34 PM
fee is fair. just withdraw weekly or atleast $2000.

one thing nitro can have is non instant withdraw then send to many.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 18, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
Some good conversation going on in here and as always, the occasional post whoring  :P

Bottom Line

For people who don't like to keep their BTC on exchanges, Nitrogen has now become a bad option.  I don't even like keeping my coins on Kraken and Polo, so why would I sleep well at night with money on a gambling website?

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

Hey Nitrogen I know you're reading this!   Care to chime in rather than act like everything is ok?  



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Tenderino on December 18, 2017, 11:29:55 PM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
It's just not practical and since most of your remaining post was rambling, bottom line is I can not be the only one shocked by this new policy.


I have to admit that the advantage of NitrogenSports was quick withdrawals at any time and there are surely some bettors who deposit and withdraw several times within a day. The problem is that the bitcoin processing fees are very high currently and NitrogenSports hardly can eat those fees and has to forward it to their customers. I do not know how Jetwin handles this, but they offer also anonymous accounts.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: xYakult on December 19, 2017, 01:09:11 AM

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

The case in this is different, your Costco are not wasting so much money by accepting items that their customers return because of whatever reason while nitrogensports will lose so much money everyday if they continue to give free withdrawals, thousands of dollars daily. Don't forget about small players too who withdraw everytime they get .001btc on freeroll :D


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 19, 2017, 01:39:00 AM

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

The case in this is different, your Costco are not wasting so much money by accepting items that their customers return because of whatever reason while nitrogensports will lose so much money everyday if they continue to give free withdrawals, thousands of dollars daily. Don't forget about small players too who withdraw everytime they get .001btc on freeroll :D

Did you even read what you just typed?
Of course Costco is wasting "so much money by accepting items."  They don't sell returned items.
So clearly Costo is losing money and biting the bullet, something Nitrogen needs to wake up and do as well!  


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: xYakult on December 19, 2017, 05:48:41 AM

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

The case in this is different, your Costco are not wasting so much money by accepting items that their customers return because of whatever reason while nitrogensports will lose so much money everyday if they continue to give free withdrawals, thousands of dollars daily. Don't forget about small players too who withdraw everytime they get .001btc on freeroll :D

Did you even read what you just typed?
Of course Costco is wasting "so much money by accepting items."  They don't sell returned items.
So clearly Costo is losing money and biting the bullet, something Nitrogen needs to wake up and do as well!  


No they are not losing money, it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place. So my point is still the same, its just you can't understand what nitrogensports is done because you only look at one side of the issue. Let me ask you, are you willing to pay $20 for withdrawal your players make? If yes, you should create a gambling site and I will make a deposit of lets say 1btc and withdraw .001btc for 1000x and you will pay $20,000 for nothing. makes sense?


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 19, 2017, 12:03:58 PM

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

The case in this is different, your Costco are not wasting so much money by accepting items that their customers return because of whatever reason while nitrogensports will lose so much money everyday if they continue to give free withdrawals, thousands of dollars daily. Don't forget about small players too who withdraw everytime they get .001btc on freeroll :D

Did you even read what you just typed?
Of course Costco is wasting "so much money by accepting items."  They don't sell returned items.
So clearly Costo is losing money and biting the bullet, something Nitrogen needs to wake up and do as well!  


No they are not losing money, it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place. So my point is still the same, its just you can't understand what nitrogensports is done because you only look at one side of the issue. Let me ask you, are you willing to pay $20 for withdrawal your players make? If yes, you should create a gambling site and I will make a deposit of lets say 1btc and withdraw .001btc for 1000x and you will pay $20,000 for nothing. makes sense?

I know you live in the Philippines and things might be different over there, so I'll explain myself only one more time:
If company A spends $10 to manufacture an item, which is sold and then returned, company A loses $10 because company A can not sell that item. 
Your analogy "it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place" is entirely inaccurate.

Nitrogen needs to change their withdrawal policy or at least address the issue.   


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: veleten on December 19, 2017, 12:44:30 PM

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

The case in this is different, your Costco are not wasting so much money by accepting items that their customers return because of whatever reason while nitrogensports will lose so much money everyday if they continue to give free withdrawals, thousands of dollars daily. Don't forget about small players too who withdraw everytime they get .001btc on freeroll :D

Did you even read what you just typed?
Of course Costco is wasting "so much money by accepting items."  They don't sell returned items.
So clearly Costo is losing money and biting the bullet, something Nitrogen needs to wake up and do as well!  


No they are not losing money, it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place. So my point is still the same, its just you can't understand what nitrogensports is done because you only look at one side of the issue. Let me ask you, are you willing to pay $20 for withdrawal your players make? If yes, you should create a gambling site and I will make a deposit of lets say 1btc and withdraw .001btc for 1000x and you will pay $20,000 for nothing. makes sense?

I know you live in the Philippines and things might be different over there, so I'll explain myself only one more time:
If company A spends $10 to manufacture an item, which is sold and then returned, company A loses $10 because company A can not sell that item. 
Your analogy "it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place" is entirely inaccurate.

Nitrogen needs to change their withdrawal policy or at least address the issue.   

why would they change their withdrawal policy?
you do not come to  a shop and say: "hey I think your price is unfair,you need to change your
price policies and also give me things for free"  ;D
you just go to a shop/casino that suits you instead and its the only way you can change their policies
since once they see that it results in profit or clientelle loss,they might change the policies themselves


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Layla99 on December 19, 2017, 02:51:03 PM
The thing that makes it so shitty is you need 1 confirmation to place a wager now so if you want to bet on a game that day you better send your deposit with a fee that will confirm in time so now you need to pay a generous deposit fee along with the withdrawal fee. They really need to start accepting alts. If betcoin didn't have such a TERRIBLE sports book UI and pretty crappy support, I'd move there in a heartbeat


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: JayLiaster on December 19, 2017, 07:56:35 PM
Fee transaction will increase all day with the increment of the value and the traffic i hope in a switch of altcoin and blockchain... Anyway i always do a great balance before i need to withdraw or i do a withdraw with a friend (if the site permits rain or tip :P)


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: BitcoinMarshal on December 19, 2017, 08:00:41 PM
The thing that makes it so shitty is you need 1 confirmation to place a wager now so if you want to bet on a game that day you better send your deposit with a fee that will confirm in time so now you need to pay a generous deposit fee along with the withdrawal fee. They really need to start accepting alts. If betcoin didn't have such a TERRIBLE sports book UI and pretty crappy support, I'd move there in a heartbeat
Its good suggestion now time for them to accept few altcoins also because now we other sports betting sites already started and some doing work because its very high fees even we have one free withdrawal every week its good site working for many years without too much problems


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: RogerKlotz on December 19, 2017, 08:46:46 PM
The thing that makes it so shitty is you need 1 confirmation to place a wager now so if you want to bet on a game that day you better send your deposit with a fee that will confirm in time so now you need to pay a generous deposit fee along with the withdrawal fee. They really need to start accepting alts. If betcoin didn't have such a TERRIBLE sports book UI and pretty crappy support, I'd move there in a heartbeat
Its good suggestion now time for them to accept few altcoins also because now we other sports betting sites already started and some doing work because its very high fees even we have one free withdrawal every week its good site working for many years without too much problems

Its s very good site but it was best when i could bet and withdrawl but now i bet maybe win but immediate lose money withdrawing my money


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Layla99 on December 19, 2017, 09:31:24 PM
The thing that makes it so shitty is you need 1 confirmation to place a wager now so if you want to bet on a game that day you better send your deposit with a fee that will confirm in time so now you need to pay a generous deposit fee along with the withdrawal fee. They really need to start accepting alts. If betcoin didn't have such a TERRIBLE sports book UI and pretty crappy support, I'd move there in a heartbeat
Its good suggestion now time for them to accept few altcoins also because now we other sports betting sites already started and some doing work because its very high fees even we have one free withdrawal every week its good site working for many years without too much problems

Yes they need to realize that alts are the only viable way to keep smaller betting people there


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: xYakult on December 20, 2017, 01:09:21 AM

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

The case in this is different, your Costco are not wasting so much money by accepting items that their customers return because of whatever reason while nitrogensports will lose so much money everyday if they continue to give free withdrawals, thousands of dollars daily. Don't forget about small players too who withdraw everytime they get .001btc on freeroll :D

Did you even read what you just typed?
Of course Costco is wasting "so much money by accepting items."  They don't sell returned items.
So clearly Costo is losing money and biting the bullet, something Nitrogen needs to wake up and do as well!  


No they are not losing money, it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place. So my point is still the same, its just you can't understand what nitrogensports is done because you only look at one side of the issue. Let me ask you, are you willing to pay $20 for withdrawal your players make? If yes, you should create a gambling site and I will make a deposit of lets say 1btc and withdraw .001btc for 1000x and you will pay $20,000 for nothing. makes sense?

I know you live in the Philippines and things might be different over there, so I'll explain myself only one more time:
If company A spends $10 to manufacture an item, which is sold and then returned, company A loses $10 because company A can not sell that item. 
Your analogy "it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place" is entirely inaccurate.

Nitrogen needs to change their withdrawal policy or at least address the issue.   

It is still different, if an item is sold and then returned, most likely it is not in perfect condition that is why it is returned and an item with defect is obviously a loss by the company already. In Nitrogen, you still have the choice if you want to use their withdrawal, if you want to save some money you can request a withdrawal once a week and it will be covered by them. Their withdrawal policy is basically against abuse IMHO


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: BitcoinKing101 on December 20, 2017, 01:36:14 AM
Does this fee include the bitcoin transaction fee? Because those are pretty huge. I saw a $7 transaction and won't be surprised if now there are even $10 ones. Yet they surely should not charge people additionally. Do they? Or perhaps that was the fee for withdrawing a really big sum of money?
I guess it's time for casinos to slowly dump bitcoin and use other coins, so that people feel comfortable about gambling. Dogecoin is not developing, but it's still very good for gambling, as transactions proceed really fast and cheap. Let's hope nitrogen will make a step forward and list some other coins apart from btc.

I recently id a $230 transaction and I was charged a $11 fee.  I looked at the block chain and seen that there were other 4 transactions sent with mine and the total fee was around $19.  So who is raping who???


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 20, 2017, 05:48:34 AM
Nitrogen can fix the high fees "issue" by enabling Segwit for their site. Bitcoin users will then naturally follow and use a Segwit enabled wallet like GreenAddress because it will make fees lower by 40% right away, adding to our savings.

As regular users, we should campaign for Segwit use. It is for the benefit of us all.



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 20, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
Does this fee include the bitcoin transaction fee? Because those are pretty huge. I saw a $7 transaction and won't be surprised if now there are even $10 ones. Yet they surely should not charge people additionally. Do they? Or perhaps that was the fee for withdrawing a really big sum of money?
I guess it's time for casinos to slowly dump bitcoin and use other coins, so that people feel comfortable about gambling. Dogecoin is not developing, but it's still very good for gambling, as transactions proceed really fast and cheap. Let's hope nitrogen will make a step forward and list some other coins apart from btc.

I recently id a $230 transaction and I was charged a $11 fee.  I looked at the block chain and seen that there were other 4 transactions sent with mine and the total fee was around $19.  So who is raping who???

Thank you! 

Finally someone gets it and sees whats going on!


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: applelover on December 20, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
Is nitrogensports holding bitcoincash still, or did they spend it for themselves? Each bitcoin cash coin is now worth $3500 each.  They are having a big party with their users coins.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: XarXymtroa on December 20, 2017, 02:22:51 PM
Is nitrogensports holding bitcoincash still, or did they spend it for themselves? Each bitcoin cash coin is now worth $3500 each.  They are having a big party with their users coins.

They made off like bandits.  This is a shady casino as far as I'm concerned. 


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Lionidas on December 20, 2017, 03:44:22 PM
Nitrogen can fix the high fees "issue" by enabling Segwit for their site. Bitcoin users will then naturally follow and use a Segwit enabled wallet like GreenAddress because it will make fees lower by 40% right away, adding to our savings.

As regular users, we should campaign for Segwit use. It is for the benefit of us all.


Segwit 2x is on again after they cancelled it.
Heard the news on it yesterday and thought it would of sparked up bitcoin's price after the hauling that bitcoin cash did to it. But unfortunately it didn't.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Oilacris on December 20, 2017, 04:46:36 PM

Imagine a company with superior customer service (ex. Costco).  Costco allows customers to return anything, in any condition for any reason.  They are the best in their industry.   Now, imagine if after all these years, they just did away with their return policy.  That would create triggers and certainly upset a lot of people.  In fact, many people may look for alternate shopping solely based on their decision to do away with their ongoing tough to beat return policy.  It would be a horrible business move and very comparable to what Nitrogen is doing.  For all the new money coming into the BTC gambling, they couldn't have picked a worse time to change their policy.  

The case in this is different, your Costco are not wasting so much money by accepting items that their customers return because of whatever reason while nitrogensports will lose so much money everyday if they continue to give free withdrawals, thousands of dollars daily. Don't forget about small players too who withdraw everytime they get .001btc on freeroll :D

Did you even read what you just typed?
Of course Costco is wasting "so much money by accepting items."  They don't sell returned items.
So clearly Costo is losing money and biting the bullet, something Nitrogen needs to wake up and do as well!  


No they are not losing money, it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place. So my point is still the same, its just you can't understand what nitrogensports is done because you only look at one side of the issue. Let me ask you, are you willing to pay $20 for withdrawal your players make? If yes, you should create a gambling site and I will make a deposit of lets say 1btc and withdraw .001btc for 1000x and you will pay $20,000 for nothing. makes sense?

I know you live in the Philippines and things might be different over there, so I'll explain myself only one more time:
If company A spends $10 to manufacture an item, which is sold and then returned, company A loses $10 because company A can not sell that item. 
Your analogy "it is just like their items did not get bought in the first place" is entirely inaccurate.

Nitrogen needs to change their withdrawal policy or at least address the issue.   

why would they change their withdrawal policy?
you do not come to  a shop and say: "hey I think your price is unfair,you need to change your
price policies and also give me things for free"  ;D
you just go to a shop/casino that suits you instead and its the only way you can change their policies
since once they see that it results in profit or clientelle loss,they might change the policies themselves

They would really take into consideration if they would saw there are lots of people complaining.They would really make such actions which would really suit on user needs and preference on the majority because it would really mainly affect their business if people would decide to jump out and find another store.  ;D


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Samarkand on December 20, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
Is nitrogensports holding bitcoincash still, or did they spend it for themselves? Each bitcoin cash coin is now worth $3500 each.  They are having a big party with their users coins.

They made off like bandits.  This is a shady casino as far as I'm concerned. 

You can verify for yourself that they haven´t sold the BCH so far.

Therefore it is still possible that they are going to do the right thing and distribute
the Bitcoin Cash balances to all users, who had a BTC balance at Nitrogensports
at the snapshot date.



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Lionidas on December 20, 2017, 05:26:07 PM
Is nitrogensports holding bitcoincash still, or did they spend it for themselves? Each bitcoin cash coin is now worth $3500 each.  They are having a big party with their users coins.

They made off like bandits.  This is a shady casino as far as I'm concerned. 

You can verify for yourself that they haven´t sold the BCH so far.

Therefore it is still possible that they are going to do the right thing and distribute
the Bitcoin Cash balances to all users, who had a BTC balance at Nitrogensports
at the snapshot date.


But how would they do this? By hand to look at all individual accounts that actually held bitcoin in their gambling wallets. It would be a tedious process and I do not think they have any automation in place to do this like other sites did before the fork for bitcoin gold happened.
They are short on man power as it is as you can see from their support staff when they have outages over the weekend (well they use to when I was there watching the chat room being hammered by messages about certain lines being down) and not able to get it sorted out in time before the matches start for certain players so to bet on those select games.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 21, 2017, 05:58:50 AM
Nitrogen can fix the high fees "issue" by enabling Segwit for their site. Bitcoin users will then naturally follow and use a Segwit enabled wallet like GreenAddress because it will make fees lower by 40% right away, adding to our savings.

As regular users, we should campaign for Segwit use. It is for the benefit of us all.


Segwit 2x is on again after they cancelled it.
Heard the news on it yesterday and thought it would of sparked up bitcoin's price after the hauling that bitcoin cash did to it. But unfortunately it didn't.

Segwit2x/btc1 was a scam. Is the new Segwit2x the one with the developer saying that they will enable replay protection this time? If yes, then it will hard fork and become another altcoin like Bitcoin Cash.

Plus the best engineers are working on Bitcoin, always remember that. The other "Bitcoin Xs" will never be as good as the original.  


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: newinbtc on December 21, 2017, 05:25:24 PM
Due to huge surge in bitcoin price from last month , and number of tranx per day has been increased by 400x from last month that's why we need to pay high fees on each tranx , we can set low fees but it will never confirm , either we need to wait to someone to mine or using third party services.

Nitrogen can fix the high fees "issue" by enabling Segwit for their site. Bitcoin users will then naturally follow and use a Segwit enabled wallet like GreenAddress because it will make fees lower by 40% right away, adding to our savings.

As regular users, we should campaign for Segwit use. It is for the benefit of us all.

Nitrogen is working on this currently to reduce the tranx fees


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 22, 2017, 06:59:51 AM
The more reason to have a Segwit enabled wallet for the users and the merchants. The demand for including your transactions in a block is becoming higher. With Segwit it increases the no. of transactions per block to approximately 8000. It will help more or less in lowering the fees.


Nitrogen is working on this currently to reduce the tranx fees

I believe Nitrogen, being the largest site in Bitcoin sports gambling, will influence the movement of other Bitcoin gambling sites to Segwit, reducing their fees back to cents.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: LuanX3 on December 22, 2017, 09:48:37 AM
The more reason to have a Segwit enabled wallet for the users and the merchants. The demand for including your transactions in a block is becoming higher. With Segwit it increases the no. of transactions per block to approximately 8000. It will help more or less in lowering the fees.


Nitrogen is working on this currently to reduce the tranx fees

I believe Nitrogen, being the largest site in Bitcoin sports gambling, will influence the movement of other Bitcoin gambling sites to Segwit, reducing their fees back to cents.


Problem is people aren't yet implementing it and using it yet. That's the problem, a lot of users and services (such as Nitrogen and other gambling sites) aren't using segwit yet. That means if only one address is segwit in a transaction it still does not benefit from the advantages of segwit addresses. So that is the problem. I guess you are correct with the statement that if Nitrogen does shift to segwit addresses a lot of casinos will follow suit.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 23, 2017, 06:08:28 AM
That is why I believe that there is a need to educate the users about Segwit, and it should also come from the gambling sites themselves.

Instead of making all that profit from their users, the Bitcoin gambling industry should do their part in making the network and the community a better place.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 23, 2017, 08:50:49 AM
As many of you have mentioned, let's not forget all that bitcoin cash that Nitrogen is holding.

Nitrogen is making money from this new $20 withdrawal policy, that I am certain of.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Stedsm on December 23, 2017, 02:24:40 PM
As many of you have mentioned, let's not forget all that bitcoin cash that Nitrogen is holding.

Nitrogen is making money from this new $20 withdrawal policy, that I am certain of.

That's true, they sometimes take a lot of time to even reply to our queries when it's about withdrawal part, and now this.
Doesn't losing on bets make anything to these guys that they have gone so "cheap" trying these tricks to earn a few more bucks?
They have jackpots already, why not use a part of that to send those transactions they are charging us for?
0.001 BTC means a lot when BTC was 20k, the value is now reduced to $14 but that's also not less, they should lower it down by at least 50%.
As well, what are they doing with our BCH atm? Free money for them?


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: eaLiTy on December 24, 2017, 03:32:00 AM
They do have one free withdrawal option per week and with the price of bitcoin going up ,expect the transaction charges to go up to,dealing with bitcoin for micro transactions is a bad idea now a days and all of the betting sites will face the same issue as they have to shell out transaction fees by themselves or to put that burden on the user ,which will have an impact on the customers dealing with bitcoin while gambling.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 24, 2017, 07:48:21 AM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
It's just not practical and since most of your remaining post was rambling, bottom line is I can not be the only one shocked by this new policy.
The current issue with bitcoin does not have anything to do with the sports book,every gambling site will be facing the same issue with the transaction fees,not only gambling sites but bitcoin exchanges and online wallets,so understand what the real issue is and nitrogen is already giving free withdrawal once every week for users,if you are not urgent wait for a week for free withdrawal.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Zackgeno96 on December 24, 2017, 08:43:23 AM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
It's just not practical and since most of your remaining post was rambling, bottom line is I can not be the only one shocked by this new policy.
The current issue with bitcoin does not have anything to do with the sports book,every gambling site will be facing the same issue with the transaction fees,not only gambling sites but bitcoin exchanges and online wallets,so understand what the real issue is and nitrogen is already giving free withdrawal once every week for users,if you are not urgent wait for a week for free withdrawal.

Well said mate, people should wait for the free withdrawal if they are able to hold on. If they are in hurry then there is no alternative other than paying the withdrawal fee. But nitrogen should consider the fact and should provide some relief to the old customer in order to retain them for longer time.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: aso118 on December 24, 2017, 11:00:54 AM
Ouch. Tough to see such a reputable sportsbook going this route.  :-[

Talk about riding this BTC wave of profit, and then sticking it to your loyal customers  :o

I wonder how much this will tarnish their "A" rating?

Time to seriously reevaluate my betting options cause my system won't work with this new policy.

Come on Nitrogen- wake up and realize this is bad for business!  >:(

Don't blame them. Blame the network congestion and failure to scale of Bitcoin, which has resulted in skyrocketing fees. Of course, they could subsidise withdrawal fees from their profits, but that would be bad  for the Bitcoin network and result in unnecessary transactions. By passing through this fee to customers, you can expect the customers to plan their withdrawals in a more rational manner.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: SamsungBitcoin on December 24, 2017, 11:25:12 AM
The new rules of withdrawal fee is ok for me , we do not blame their site because they only do this to compensate their processing our withdrawal in the blockchain. Also i think gamblers are not withdraw their money in daily or every other day because most of the time we used our money as capital in gambling. Like me i do withdrawal once a week or every other weeks.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Netnox on December 24, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
Is nitrogensports holding bitcoincash still, or did they spend it for themselves? Each bitcoin cash coin is now worth $3500 each.  They are having a big party with their users coins.

They made off like bandits.  This is a shady casino as far as I'm concerned.  

You can verify for yourself that they haven´t sold the BCH so far.

Therefore it is still possible that they are going to do the right thing and distribute
the Bitcoin Cash balances to all users, who had a BTC balance at Nitrogensports
at the snapshot date.

Coinbase tried to do the same (they refused to credit their users with BCH initially). But they were forced to reconsider that decision, after multiple lawsuits were filed against them in Miami. I am not sure whether Nitrogen is based, but if the American users complain against them, then they will be facing lawsuits in the American courts.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on December 24, 2017, 01:01:12 PM
20 USD is a really high fee for a withdrawal. I don't know how many other casinos are doing this but many that I know, like Bitcoinrush have put a minimum withdraw of 0.01 Btc and they pay the withdrawal fees, other casinos have lower fees like 0.0002 BTC when withdrawing less than 0.01 Btc and Nitrogen is the first one to put a fixed fee for the withdrawals. I hope this does not impact badly on their userbase.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Hell-raiser on December 24, 2017, 01:12:10 PM
Blame bitcoin network and insane high fee rates we currently have. This is our new reality - do you honestly think that any company will pay fees for you?

What about allowing users to withdraw via other payment methods and transaction vehicles? Litecoin seems to have pretty cheap transactions nowadays in comparison to other coins, and it may make sense after all to convert bitcoins to litecoins first and then go back to bitcoins if needed. Apart from that, some dice casinos don't allow to withdraw immediately on user's request but bundle many requests into one single transaction, thereby lowering their overall transaction costs.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: ralle14 on December 24, 2017, 04:26:38 PM
Nitrogen updated their withdrawal rules yesterday. The free withdrawals are now every 2 weeks and the fee is not fixed anymore. It's now based on what is the recommended fee at the moment. If I want to withdraw out from nitrogensports they'll charge me 0.002 for the fee almost $30.

Reference : https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/new-rules-concerning-bitcoin-network-fees/


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Mike Mayor on December 24, 2017, 06:38:58 PM
I still wonder how people Gamble unless they whales. It's $20 to deposit for fees and the same to withdraw s you behind $40 already. You have to make $40 profit just to break even. That just increases your chances of going bust and not enjoying yourself. I think it's why many casinos are be offering altcoins as a play option.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 26, 2017, 03:46:22 AM
The new rules of withdrawal fee is ok for me , we do not blame their site because they only do this to compensate their processing our withdrawal in the blockchain. Also i think gamblers are not withdraw their money in daily or every other day because most of the time we used our money as capital in gambling. Like me i do withdrawal once a week or every other weeks.

You should not be taking this sitting down. The Bitcoin network already has the technology to make the fees lower. Segwit makes transactions faster and cheaper because they are smaller. Plus Segwit also makes the network future ready for 2nd layer applications like the Lightning Network.

Do not be lazy. Everyone should start creating a Segwit enabled wallet now. Use Green Address instead of Blockchain.info, use Samourai wallet for mobile and do these steps to make an Electrum Segwit wallet with the more accepted "3 addresses".
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Generate a BIP39, 12 words seed on https://iancoleman.io/bip39/, you can also use it offline for more security.

On electrum choose, create new wallet, I already have a seed, then on "options" choose BIP39, paste the seed then click next.

On derivation path path use: m/49'/0'/0'/0


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on December 31, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
Nitrogen withdrawal fees are going to be a major killer to the gambling industry.  The major selling point for using this sportsbook is no more.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: BitcoinMarshal on December 31, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Nitrogen withdrawal fees are going to be a major killer to the gambling industry.  The major selling point for using this sportsbook is no more.

Nothing going to happen because now miner fees is very high and all gambling sites taking fees for withdrawal its no new here on this site many exchanges taking more high fees and peoples still doing business with them so they will be also on  ;)


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: adaseb on December 31, 2017, 11:39:17 PM
Nitrogen withdrawal fees are going to be a major killer to the gambling industry.  The major selling point for using this sportsbook is no more.


Nothing will happen to the gambling industry as a result of this.

The only sites I see suffering are the ones which are totally anonymous and have all their bets done on the block chain. Basically the ones where you send an amount to a BTC address and your bet is based on the hash of a mined like, like that oddevenbets.com

Those sites unless they switch to a different alt like LTC or Bitcoin Cash they will suffer. Because nobody will pay $25 per bet and have to wait a few hours for the bet to get activated.

Most people just leave their BTC on the bitcoin sites hot wallet and just play like that.

They can also just use different sites which feature different alt coins like XMR or LTC.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on January 01, 2018, 07:16:09 PM
Imagine if Nitrogen decided to support BCH, and we all received our BCH?
That would be a major milestone for all of us, but sadly I don't see it happening  :-[


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: STT on January 01, 2018, 08:10:13 PM
They do offer one free withdrawal per week so it is not really sticking it to their loyal customers.

They did start offering to have bets lower than the 0.001btc minimum a while back if that helps any. :-\

That does sound fair, every good company takes care of their smallest customers because this represents the highest growth rate in any economy even gambling.    Bitcoin itself is failing to understand that the network needs the smaller transactions to stay healthy, it cant all be about whales speculating and some of us just want to move value around the internet without hassle.

All of this fee stuff is negative press and puts people off the idea of using crypto, I do hope someone develops a stable reliable scalable solution as the benefits are reciprocal.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Wind_FURY on January 10, 2018, 05:39:33 AM
They do offer one free withdrawal per week so it is not really sticking it to their loyal customers.

They did start offering to have bets lower than the 0.001btc minimum a while back if that helps any. :-\

That does sound fair, every good company takes care of their smallest customers because this represents the highest growth rate in any economy even gambling.    Bitcoin itself is failing to understand that the network needs the smaller transactions to stay healthy, it cant all be about whales speculating and some of us just want to move value around the internet without hassle.

That is why we as users need to campaign for Segwit and we need our voices to be heard. The solution is already there. All you need to do is start using a Segwit enabled wallet and ask for your favorite merchants and services to do it also.

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All of this fee stuff is negative press and puts people off the idea of using crypto, I do hope someone develops a stable reliable scalable solution as the benefits are reciprocal.

Next time pay attention to the real issues. #Segwit #Lightning.



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: hacekd on January 10, 2018, 05:53:58 AM
very difficult for gamblers who have minimal gambling funds in this sports book. 20 $ is not a small amount, what they really want. I am sure they will go bankrupt in the near future if continue to implement such a system 😨😨😨


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: xYakult on January 10, 2018, 06:10:34 AM
very difficult for gamblers who have minimal gambling funds in this sports book. 20 $ is not a small amount, what they really want. I am sure they will go bankrupt in the near future if continue to implement such a system 😨😨😨

ergh. that $20 withdrawal fee is an option, if small gamblers don't want to pay $20 for their withdrawal, they can just use the free withdrawal once per week. atleast nitrogen gave their customers an option, free or paid one


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on January 16, 2018, 12:46:59 AM
Guys yes the fee is not $20 anymore, but I've got BTC stuck at Nitrogen that I have to wait another 5 days before I can withdrawal for free.  It's just not the same as it used to be.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Lionidas on January 16, 2018, 02:35:57 AM
Guys yes the fee is not $20 anymore, but I've got BTC stuck at Nitrogen that I have to wait another 5 days before I can withdrawal for free.  It's just not the same as it used to be.
What do you exactly mean? It wasn't $20 fee but attributed to the miners fee inwhich they apply to your transaction so to have it sent over the blockchain so it can get confirmed at a reverently acceptable time for you to receive it.
It was at set to 0.001btc which was around $20 but now with the number of unconfirmed transactions and the price of bitcoin coming down.
I would imagine it will be around $13 now but still at 0.001btc per withdrawal after you use up your weekly one they give to you for free.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Caladonian on January 16, 2018, 03:32:33 AM
Guys yes the fee is not $20 anymore, but I've got BTC stuck at Nitrogen that I have to wait another 5 days before I can withdrawal for free.  It's just not the same as it used to be.
What do you exactly mean? It wasn't $20 fee but attributed to the miners fee inwhich they apply to your transaction so to have it sent over the blockchain so it can get confirmed at a reverently acceptable time for you to receive it.
It was at set to 0.001btc which was around $20 but now with the number of unconfirmed transactions and the price of bitcoin coming down.
I would imagine it will be around $13 now but still at 0.001btc per withdrawal after you use up your weekly one they give to you for free.
Well that's exactly what is happening they still charging withdrawal after consuming the free one in a week, the delayed might be cause by the miners
and not nitro they send the request and its always depend how the miner will take it, bitcoin value still at low and if converting it to usdt then we will
see that it's no longer 20$ just like what the previous replied mention. Nitro still a good site for sports betting for my owned opinion as I still played
sometimes when my fav team have some good matches.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: DoreenGresham on January 16, 2018, 06:29:43 AM
感觉退出费用都好高


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: STT on January 16, 2018, 06:52:00 AM
Next time pay attention to the real issues. #Segwit #Lightning.



Iam aware of those possibilities but development includes largely a working implementation and that is not out there yet.     As soon as the average person can be using Segwit or Lightning then I agree its become a reality but at the moment people are stuck waiting for their free once per week withdrawal.    Thats too bad I guess but at least they this site gives that base option to people, to their credit.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: iv4n on January 17, 2018, 11:36:19 AM
Ouch. Tough to see such a reputable sportsbook going this route.  :-[

Talk about riding this BTC wave of profit, and then sticking it to your loyal customers  :o

I wonder how much this will tarnish their "A" rating?

Time to seriously reevaluate my betting options cause my system won't work with this new policy.

Come on Nitrogen- wake up and realize this is bad for business!  >:(



Nitrogen is doing what others do to, at least nitrogen allows one free withdraw in 2 weeks, that is good tactic for them. Look at the betcoin, their withdraw fee for money from signature campaign is very high too, participants are complaining. Only one good thing there is they can withdraw using some alt and that's how transactions can be cheaper. I don't blame nitrogen, one of the best places for paying poker this days, I would like they to consider adding some other alts, I would gladly use it, high fees are killing many bitcoin businesses, that is not good.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Bolt Brownie on January 17, 2018, 01:30:50 PM
Nitrogen is doing what others do to, at least nitrogen allows one free withdraw in 2 weeks, that is good tactic for them. Look at the betcoin, their withdraw fee for money from signature campaign is very high too, participants are complaining. Only one good thing there is they can withdraw using some alt and that's how transactions can be cheaper. I don't blame nitrogen, one of the best places for paying poker this days, I would like they to consider adding some other alts, I would gladly use it, high fees are killing many bitcoin businesses, that is not good.

I agree with you, we can't really blame merchants for the high fees. Bitcoin fees are high, so it's impossible for them to keep them low. They can remove a portion of their profit to cover the fees, and I'm sure they already do that, but they can't solve everything. There are a few things they can do however. One is accepting other alts that have less fees, like litecoin or dash for example. I remember directbet for example even accepted doge in their site. The other thing they could do, would be to start using segwit. I know this would require a lot of coding from their part, and most of these sites don't really have a good dev team that could do this, but they should have enough money to hire some dev and make this change on their platform though.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: milewilda on January 17, 2018, 08:23:57 PM
Next time pay attention to the real issues. #Segwit #Lightning.



Iam aware of those possibilities but development includes largely a working implementation and that is not out there yet.     As soon as the average person can be using Segwit or Lightning then I agree its become a reality but at the moment people are stuck waiting for their free once per week withdrawal.    Thats too bad I guess but at least they this site gives that base option to people, to their credit.
It would really just takes time to have this kind of transition which i dont still bother than it would really be implemented on gambling industry.If it does then it would really be beneficial on both gamblers-house itself.Fees have been lowered now seeing on the current price of bitcoin its not actually $20 anymore but checking on this https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions almost 165k expect delays.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on March 24, 2018, 10:36:14 AM
Nitrogen still charging .0005 BTC (~$4.50) on what should only be a few cents.
When Nitrogen introduced fees on withdrawals, they said it would be increased/decreased as per network, but it has never been decreased even when tx fees are 10 times lower now.
Why aren't more people stepping up to call them out?


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: bratko99 on March 24, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
As I can see it should be a dollar or so...
Not just Nitrogen, almost all are still charging too much for withdrawals.

It would be ok if they actually payed that for a fee, but they aren't.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Theb on March 24, 2018, 11:13:42 AM
Nitrogen still charging .0005 BTC (~$4.50) on what should only be a few cents.
When Nitrogen introduced fees on withdrawals, they said it would be increased/decreased as per network, but it has never been decreased even when tx fees are 10 times lower now.
Why aren't more people stepping up to call them out?
My guesses are NitrogenSports really wants your to limit your withdrawals to one time per week which they offer for free. They are forcing people to only have one withdrawal for the purpose of lessening their work. It's a good thing for them as they won't be handling multiple withdrawals from the same account. Their manpower can be one of the problems here as if they allow you to have cheap multiple withdrawals then they might not be able to process them all just like what other gambling sites are currently experiencing.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Trofo on March 24, 2018, 01:31:35 PM
Nitrogen still charging .0005 BTC (~$4.50) on what should only be a few cents.
When Nitrogen introduced fees on withdrawals, they said it would be increased/decreased as per network, but it has never been decreased even when tx fees are 10 times lower now.
Why aren't more people stepping up to call them out?
My guesses are NitrogenSports really wants your to limit your withdrawals to one time per week which they offer for free. They are forcing people to only have one withdrawal for the purpose of lessening their work. It's a good thing for them as they won't be handling multiple withdrawals from the same account. Their manpower can be one of the problems here as if they allow you to have cheap multiple withdrawals then they might not be able to process them all just like what other gambling sites are currently experiencing.

Then you have to consider that most of the people will be quicker to bet with funds already on the site. Therefore, higher fees also mean more bets and effectively even bigger cut for the house.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Lionidas on March 24, 2018, 11:54:10 PM
I am a little surprised they have not lifted their limit on how many withdrawals you are allowed until they start charging you to be able to take out your own funds.
That is just absurd.
If their major competitor Sportsbet.io can manage to let their own players to withdraw as many times as they want without charging them, then I would imagine that Nitrogensports could do the same. :-[


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Casino_Guide on March 25, 2018, 10:02:30 AM
What about customers who have been making daily withdrawals for the past 2 years?  They are going to turn away loyal customers over $20.
It's just not practical and since most of your remaining post was rambling, bottom line is I can not be the only one shocked by this new policy.



Hey,
I'm curious. What is the reason you do so many withdraws and probably deposits? Do they have a special bonus offer that you can use on a daily bases or do you win that much? To me it sounds like a lot of work to do transactions every day... If you win a lot, why not limit your withdraws to once a week and save time?
I understand if you're pissed at them, but see it as an opportunity to safe some time :)


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on March 25, 2018, 11:41:32 AM
I am a little surprised they have not lifted their limit on how many withdrawals you are allowed until they start charging you to be able to take out your own funds.
That is just absurd.
If their major competitor Sportsbet.io can manage to let their own players to withdraw as many times as they want without charging them, then I would imagine that Nitrogensports could do the same. :-[

This is good to know that competitors like Sporstbet.io allow free withdrawals.
There must be other options if we want any leverage against these casinos.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on March 26, 2018, 11:56:56 PM
As I can see it should be a dollar or so...
Not just Nitrogen, almost all are still charging too much for withdrawals.

It would be ok if they actually payed that for a fee, but they aren't.

Ding Ding Ding!   We have a winner!  
Nitrogen making a lot of extra cash with their non-fluctuating withdrawal fees, even though their own blog states otherwise.  >:(

https://blog.nitrogensports.eu/bitcoin/new-rules-bitcoin-network-fees/ (https://blog.nitrogensports.eu/bitcoin/new-rules-bitcoin-network-fees/)

** Players will have 1 free withdrawal every 2 weeks (given 0.005 BTC deposit histories). **

** After the ‘1 free withdrawal’, players will pay transaction fees closer to direct market value. No flat fee. The fee will move up and down with the network. **

Then why I am I still paying .0005 per withdrawal when it only costs a few cents to actually send my BTC?



Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: ralle14 on March 27, 2018, 12:33:36 AM
Then why I am I still paying .0005 per withdrawal when it only costs a few cents to actually send my BTC?
The fees they charge are indeed annoying it feels like they're doing it on purpose to gain back the amount they lost on giving free withdrawals the past couple of years before they put up this rule. This one reason why I stopped using them I guess they care more about the whales.

Hey,
I'm curious. What is the reason you do so many withdraws and probably deposits? Do they have a special bonus offer that you can use on a daily bases or do you win that much? To me it sounds like a lot of work to do transactions every day... If you win a lot, why not limit your withdraws to once a week and save time?
I understand if you're pissed at them, but see it as an opportunity to safe some time :)
Nitrogen doesn't have any bonus offer except for monthly/weekly free bet parlays. You can easily win/lose a lot in sports betting (depends on your betting style) when i'm winning a lot I always withdraw 80% of the balance and gamble the rest if I win again i'll do the same thing rinse and repeat.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Trofo on March 27, 2018, 07:38:45 AM
Nitrogen doesn't have any bonus offer except for monthly/weekly free bet parlays. You can easily win/lose a lot in sports betting (depends on your betting style) when i'm winning a lot I always withdraw 80% of the balance and gamble the rest if I win again i'll do the same thing rinse and repeat.

I have only recently started using Nitrogen, Can you please give me some more info about their monthly/weekly free bet parlays?

I have a similar strategy regarding withdrawing the winnings but I think I will just have to place some restrains on myself and lower the amount of withdrawals/deposits on Nitrogen to avoid the fees and increase ROI.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: NitrogenSports on March 27, 2018, 09:50:05 AM
Timely new blog post about our withdrawal policy here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355081.6540


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Minus7point5 on March 27, 2018, 04:28:55 PM
You can all thank me for convincing Nitrogen to change their withdrawal fees  8)


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: ralle14 on March 27, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
Nitrogen doesn't have any bonus offer except for monthly/weekly free bet parlays. You can easily win/lose a lot in sports betting (depends on your betting style) when i'm winning a lot I always withdraw 80% of the balance and gamble the rest if I win again i'll do the same thing rinse and repeat.

I have only recently started using Nitrogen, Can you please give me some more info about their monthly/weekly free bet parlays?

I have a similar strategy regarding withdrawing the winnings but I think I will just have to place some restrains on myself and lower the amount of withdrawals/deposits on Nitrogen to avoid the fees and increase ROI.
This is quite off topic but here's how. In order to join the free bet parlay you have to make a parlay with an X legged parlay it could be 4 legged or higher depends on what is stated on their blog and you can also check their twitter for more free bet promos.


Timely new blog post about our withdrawal policy here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355081.6540
Finally you guys decided to update the miner fee, much better now it won't be painful to withdraw small amounts of btc. Thanks for listening to people's suggestion.


You can all thank me for convincing Nitrogen to change their withdrawal fees  8)
Thanks. They could be getting a lot of complaints about their withdrawal fee and also noticed this thread.




Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Lionidas on March 30, 2018, 07:01:19 PM
They did finally change their policy on the withdrawal fees which were abusive at it's best. And they do explain it was to due to receiving numerous complaints to their support team and then reviewing their policy on withdrawals.
Now if they can just return back to allowing as many withdrawals as we want for free again since miners fees are lower than they have ever been.
As far as I can remember.


Title: Re: Nitrogen $20 withdrawal fee
Post by: Pamadar on March 31, 2018, 02:13:42 PM
They did finally change their policy on the withdrawal fees which were abusive at it's best. And they do explain it was to due to receiving numerous complaints to their support team and then reviewing their policy on withdrawals.
Now if they can just return back to allowing as many withdrawals as we want for free again since miners fees are lower than they have ever been.
As far as I can remember.
If they can do that then it's really  a good way to attract more gamblers again to use their sites, I think for sport betting they still got the spot,
just some concerned with withdrawal fees that they already trying to resolved, much better if they can free it up again and shoulder the miner' fee
instead.