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Hi I am a newbie here in Bitcointakorg. Also I am new to Crypto trading fielding as well. While I was talking to one of my friends about Crypto Market. He doubted this new currency trend. As He said There is Illuminati behind this project.  He submitted me some facts exacting some one's article that It is a scam and that could cause to loose everything one day. I will list them here below one by one.

1. Bitcoin is not a company, It has no corporate entity..
  (You can't sue bitcoin, inc. If the promises you were made about bitcoin price valuations don't pan. There is no bitcoin, inc)

2. Bitcoin doesn't have any earnings, revenues, profits, profits or P/E ratios.

3. Bitcoin trading isn't regulated by any one.

4. If the internet goes down, Bitcoins cease to exit.

5. Very few accept bitcoins as form of payment. ( although this could grow)

6. Bitcoins transactions are not free and fee getting increased time to time.

7. You can't sue anything if you loose your bitcoins,

8. Nearly all bitcoins promoters have a conflict of interest in attracting more buyers in to bitcoins.

9. Bitcoin isn't very liquid market compare to stock market, Transactions can days to clear

10. Because of bitcoin isn't regulated by the SEC, Bitcoin promoters can claim any forward - looking estimates for future
   ( the government cannot take any legal action against them )


I would like to know you people's views regarding above facts, Really Appreciate your participation, Looking forward to learn many things from you as a newbie. Thanks in advance.

Totally agree. I hitched a ride to Bilderburg with some friends in a UFO and they were all saying this exact thing.

If you say bitcoin is illuminati scam than fiat currency is also a scam,it just a currency you need to spend for your daily needs and future investment,i do not by this idea.

All of the facts that you just stated are what's so good about BTC. It's decentralized, no big corporations make money off it (no monopoly), and governments can't control your money. Bitcoin's value is solely decided by what the people are willing to pay for it. If your bank goes bankrupt, can you sue them?

 :)

That's true. But in case my bank went brankrupt, central bank will intervene and will do some justice for me. ;)

I migth agree wit some of your statement,butthat will not stop me or anyone from holding and trading with Bitcoin,as it has change several peoples life,governement has failed us in my country,thanks to Bitcoin that deliver us from poverty

Thanks for your respond. So As you say I feel like, this is a some kin of revolution. They can't stop it, Illuminati or Rotchild family can do nothing about this. That sounds good to me. 

1. Yes, and that's a huge selling point of bitcoin; not a disadvantage. Bitcoin never promised us any profits.

2. Yes. Because as you stated, bitcoin isn't a company. It's the money of the people.

3. Governments are actually slowly but surely regulating cryptocurrencies.

4. Which is next to impossible to happen.

5. Bitcoin is still a new currency. Look at bitcoin as like a project on it's pre-alpha stage.

6. Sure, some bank transactions aren't free either, as well as moving huge amounts of funds. Even PayPal has a fee. Not because we have high fees right now, it doesn't mean it will not be fixed in the future.

7. That's why crypto security is very important. You are your own bank. This still isn't a downside in my opinion.

8. I don't get what you mean in your statement.

9. Again. Bitcoin is at it's very early stages.

This is funny. Thanks for your respond. Anyways if you don't mind I would like to hear your real idea about this behind this jokingly saying..

I agree with this :) I treat that list as positive traits of bitcoin also. Btc's decentralization was good because it only means that there is no one who can monopolize btc, therefore, greedy people can't take advantage into it and all is fair.

Also, I think that list is not a concrete proof for accusing btc as a work of Illuminati and besides we only have a very small information about this mysterious organization so we're not sure if they really manipulates btc.

All our lives are God's scam, guys. Although I agree that bitcoin looks more suspicious than ethereum that has a person behind it. Bitcoin is growing to fast comparing to other coins.

It isnt a scam but it is 100% pure speculation. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand the fact that there is no inherent value in BTC - like there is no inherent value in gold.

Virtually all of the points you make apply to gold.

Bitcoin is not an illuminati scam, and it was created to help people to escape from the illuminati fiat currency scams. In fact they are so worried about a potential exodus, that I believe they are now buying Bitcoin in an attempt to cripple it.

OP, it's understandable that your friend claim Bitcoin is a claim, but I'm not understand at all, how was he related Bitcoin with Illuminati?  ???

If he thinks that Bitcoin is another creation of Illuminati's scam - then I have nothing much to say about it lol

I wouldn't say it's a scam or Illuminati mumbo-jumbo  ::) But your points are in place.

My biggest issue is that I cannot use it for small transactions ( less than $100 for example) due to very high fees... That's why I personally find altcoins more interesting ( monero for example...)

I disagree with some of the points. Here's my thoughts

1. It was the fundamental idea of bitcoin. Don't trust organisations/regulators. Rather, trust a community of people
2. So does USD, CAD, INR etc
3. Relates to point #1
4. If internet goes down, so does my credit/debit card, online banking and ... my job
5. yes, it will grow
6. yes, but still better than forex. although, I agree that this should solved
7. that is if you store in exchanges
8. so did gold miners
9. Didn't understand your point entirely. In my part of the world, exchange transactions take 2 days for security to credit in my account
10. It is on others to beleive or not. I would be lying if I said that I didn't lose money because of a stock market expert's prediction going wrong

I totally disagree with your points and stop calling the great Bitcoin as Illuminati. Bitcoin is anonymous, and can be used by anyone and everyone without any restrictions from governments, or jurisdiction related issues. Bitcoin isn't one person's property, it is for the whole world and that's why no one other than the holder earns any profits from it. Few places accept Bitcoin because it isn't stable at one price, and there are many ups and downs. and sudden surges in its price. Yeah, the transactions aren't free because miners also want their share. If you loose your Bitcoins that's your own fault not others, so there is no point for suing anyone.
Although, I agree with some of your points, but if you do deep research on it then you will know the truth.

I think the bitcoin is not a scam, but some people say that it's a scam. In recent years, the U.S. government has moved as fast as a slime mold to catch up with financial wrongdoers. It missed the 2008 credit bubble in an epic way and was never able to head off major market dumps, particularly the mysterious "flash crash" a few years ago.

Hi,

Actually all the points you are highlighting can be supported indeed. The bitcoin, its market and its community are quite "new" so quite unsure and indeed there is an almost complete lack of regulation about it.

BUT

This doesn't mean there must be some kind of conspiracy. Illuminati, right? I cannot prove they don't exist and even saying just that makes me sound as a conspirator for those who believe in such theories. Just calm down.

Bitcoin is.. full of opportunities but also loaded with scams. Just learn from your mistake in order to avoid scams. And forget about illuminatis! ;)

Hi Friend, Let me explain no. 8 in details. It is something like this... if you are  BTC holder you need to promote BTC in order to make its value higher. So it is more selfish activity rather than rational analysis from you to people.. Hope this make clear for you.

What's the point that accusing bitcoins is a games of the devil or that you called illuminati scam,because this is a serious accusation and you dont have a proof to justify that bitcoins is a fraud or ponzi, because as far as i know that bitcoin is created for the purpose of helping the people and helping the economy more progressive in terms of digital currency business.

Bitcoin scam? That means you are also scam because you are in a forum that you say a scam.

The fact you are talking about is still very weak, there is not even a real bite.

crypto currency is still a little wild west but I imagine that this is how born the great thing is long to regulate a volume as massive as represents crypto currency

I fully agree with you sir. We should print these facts on posters and spread them everywhere. This is the best bitcoin commercial ever made :)

If you hold BTC it doesn't mean that you need to promote it. I'm a BTC holder and I almost never promote it in real life.

Some people aren't in it for the money. Some people really just want bitcoin to simply succeed. Promote bitcoin = rise in price, and more people know about it. Win-Win situation.

Indeed Bitcoin is not a company and there is no promise in Bitcoin so don't equate Bitcoin with investment in the company

Bitcoin prices are determined by supply and demand, These are the basic things to consider when you are interested in Bitcoin

The internet goes down? I think that's impossible

While it can grow then it is not a problem

Now this is a problem that I think should be solved

It's true and and the loss of Bitcoin is usually caused by user carelessness

Sorry I never advise people outside this forum to buy Bitcoin because it's just wasting my time

Everyone is free to speculate and, see my answer at number 3

Well explained I agree with SamReomo. Still, since from 2008 people are saying Bitcoin is scam by comparing it with other things, but my straight question is if you believe in Bitcoin then you will be sole responsible for results and outcomes.

I see in forum many newbies are in frustration, due to huge increase in price of Bitcoins against fiat currency globally.

The fact is, Bitcoin is a combination of Blockchain and Cryptography which have basically zero value, but algorithm and power used for Proof of Work is very costly. More interest of user is taking bitcoin price to higher level and in future adoption of blockchain and decentralized technologies will give more dominance, growth, importance, security and value to Bitcoin. Now its up to user how they accept truth of future.

The BTC is the future. Is not a scam!!  Do You know all the most important banks in the world have got many cryptocurrency experts in their teams? Just a mistake of them? I don't Think so!!

Here I would like to remove all types of doubts about bitcoin from point to point .
At first bitcoin is not a company but it is made up of whole world which is more than a company because all value and prices of bitcoin is due to demand and supply that going on with bitcoin and buyers and sellers .
If internet get down then Ofcourse not only bitcoin but also you will loss everything in this present time data that is stored in banking sector services .
At point 5 you are wrong that only few people are accepting bitcoin Because only few countries are only which have banned bitcoin and most of the countries have no rules and few have fully legalised bitcoin .
And at end bitcoin is not regulated by anyone that is a cool thing because we can use own money in any way , it is your own duty if you have gold in your house to make it safe .

hmmm.. I get your point. I am not in to any conclusion. my personal view too, BITCOIN is not a illuminati scam. But I would like to open my mind for other people's view so that I can apply their ideas so that I can come to a conclusion. Thanks for your view buddy...

Yes,  There is not inherent value in BTC , And no inherent value in Gold as well. Therefore risk is always there. but fiat money's inherent also depends on inflation.

Trust fait currency and u can see the same whats happening in Venezuela and Zimbabwe and Hyper currency inflation

I doubt it is one of those Illuminati linked or owned things. Bitcoin was meant to be decentralized and as far as I know, the Illuminati are working toward a singular world order.

Most of what you say is true but some are not exactly true. I think bitcoin investment is better than investing in stock market. Yes we dont have any hold on it, it is not even physical, but so wonder-full that it catches people’s attention and trust on the matter since everything mentioned above is true.

Hi This is not my idea but some one else's idea, I published it here so that I can get educated from more educated people about BTC and Crypto here. I have already got lot of information through this forum. I think it is better to have conversation like this, Then only we can see thing clearly.

This is all true if this kind of statement will really done in the future. Yes, bitcoin and the owner is anonymous but lets always grab the opportunity today and be happy of what bitcoin gives us. Let the future think of itself because remember we are humans we don't control what will be in the future.

Lol what a thread to start up my day. Honestly, fiat and the banking system is more worthy of receiving such conspiracies given the amount of mysteries and spooky things it contains. As for the above given enumerated statements, some of it are true and the rest are bullshit, especially point #9. The author of those statements seemed confuse about market transactions and bitcoin transactions.

Why blame Illuminati for this scam, they have nothing to do with this. Better blame the good old Devil for this. Just kidding, of course you can't be serious. The whole list you mentioned are the usp's of Bitcoin. These are the benefits, set up with the objective of having a decentralized currency.

Well you are entitled to your opinion, you may feel that bitcoin is an Illuminati scam or what ever. But I feel that bitcoin deserve our respect even thou the history surrounding it is unclear to us now, you might be right or wrong but my question is. What is Illuminati?
What is bitcoin? Do their have any connection or their just exist on their own. What you have listed above has no fact and are all just based on assumptions so let wait and see only time can unravel the secret behind them both.

Hehe i think in times like this its always the blame of the illuminati, I do believe the illuminati exists, i also beleive in UFO's, clones, time/inter-dimensional travel, ghosts and even tinfoil head working to block the microwaves reading your thoughts but if BItcoin controlled by Illuminati? i dont know men

I understand and I have feeling that BTC is unstoppable. but I think it is good to have a conversation like this. Then we can find the reality. 1000 opinions meet each other and then . 1000 flowers blooming   ;)

I want to laugh :D ;D . You cannot judge bitcoin like that. Although many people are feel scammed by bitcoin because they lose their money but it is not proof that bitcoin is scam. They will not lose their money if they are not sell it in lower price, aren't they? We should become smarter.

I read many statement like this about bitcoin. Although you stated about bitcoin is decentralized and you cannot sue anyone once bitcoin cease to exit. But you know it is kind of investment also that you are willing to risks your money. This is why invest on what you can afford to lose or risks. Because no one is responsible for our lose in btc.

They are all facts, those you stated here. But it doesnt mean it is illuminati.

I dont think that you can call bitcoin a Illuminati Scam, because it is already performing so many years and no one is controlling it so how can it be a scam?, a scam is been operated by person or syndicate while bitcoin has no owner or company so its a neutral money that anyone can use it if they wanted to. Also many people always do some dirty work just to ruin things in life thats why we don't have an easy living, because if people are so responsible and good character for sure bitcoin is very high value today.

Thanks for your detailed answer. It is clear and right on spot. As you see BTC fee is the only problem to be solved. Great..

Bitcoin is all the opposite to illuminati. Illuminati is suppsoed to control everything, only owners can control bitcoin and being descentralized means anyone can get a portion of it. is not like cash, no one can deny it from you nor 'explode' you in any fashion

is correct to think fiat currency is a scam, is worthless paper created by somebody who says 'I have enough gold to back these papers up'

I don't think bitcoin and illuminati is the same. They have different disposition, illuminati want to take control of everthing. While bitcoin is giving freedom to everyone.

until now I myself have not found clear evidence of bitcoin, whether illuminati a scam or not.
I know that trading and the digital market are different from the real market. so many different components.
it could be just a conspiracy to ruin the financial cryptocurrency.
maybe next time I can share more about illuminati here.

Thanks mate for the reply, Bitcoin is.. full of opportunities but also loaded with scams, Yeah that the area we have to be careful and we can do it by learning from mistakes as you pointed out. :)

Many people have such doubts.But illuminatis are those who want to control the world by creating one world order.But bitcoin is making day by day new millionaires and more people rich getting financially free and flourishing.OP's doubt could only work out when all the bitcoin holders continue to hold thir money in bitcoin itself for ever.But it is not the case here.Most of them are cashing out and buying assets or whatever they want.So,this bitcoin concept would be of no use to them.

Even now,all the big banks are run by illuminati and they control the world countries by providing them huge amounts of money as loans.By this way,they even influence in their policy making.

So in reality,illuminati would have been upset with bitcoin and satoshi as its shaking even the base of well established banking system which were made by them a century ago.

Illuminati is overrated.

why do people always relate the trending topics to Illuminati or Demons? Does demons only have the right to be trending? When someone is becoming popular, people will always find ways to relate it to something demonic or to illuminati. I don't know what kind of thinking those people have. We doesn't even know if Illuminati really exists!

I never thought that bitcoin is a scam illuminati. because I see bitcoin just a virtual currency, which is obviously very different from the real world. but also this bitcoin was created by the Japanese. so it has nothing to do with the illuminati.
that's what I know until today..

Very good view at my points. Thats logic. I can use some of them too when someone say Bitcoin is not reliable. Thanks for the response

That's a good point. Yeah New world order through singular world order.

Yes time will abolish our all doubts. even my post about is there any connection between illuminati and BTC? :)
Anyways, as you said time will give us the right answer in future itself meanwhile think logically and act safe..TTY

I don't think bitcoin is a fraud. It has intrinsic value. Now the bitcoin is full of opportunity and full of doubts. We see more and more young people joining the encrypted currency community, which is the symbol of the growth of the bitcoin community.

May be. But having this type of conversation still fair and ok right? Then only we can find the truth, 1000 opinions meet each other then 1000 flowers bloom.

Yeah , but thats due their wrong economical political policy right?

Wow..really? SO that means even bankers trading in cryptomarket and make good money.. Interesting.. But I know one thing Crypto is a threat for banks.

Yeah, It is a big treat to them, with bitcoins rise I'm sure they will do something about it. They also have plans to destabilize the crypto currency.

Going through the items you listed. I did not see any connection or link you made as to bitcoin being connected to illuminati. Those are just the advantages of bitcoin you just enumerated, maybe you have to come up with convincing facts.

Maybe crypto might be a threat for banks today but what if there will be banks that will accepts storing cryptos? I think in the near future banks will also adopt blockchain technology, we cannot tell what may happen in the near future. Nothing is impossible with the technology now.

He is just highlighting the facts that there is a possibility of illuminati is just controlling bitcoin. But still it don't have any relations from each other. There is no comparison in both of them. They are alike in principles.

Thats a good point. Already someone pointed out this fact in this thread. noted this one as well. Thanks

The Illuminati is linked to some of the richest corporations and entities in the corporate world. So in point 1, you mentioned that Bitcoin is not linked to any corporation or entity and you derived from that, that it is then linked to the Illuminati. <which is wrong>

The Illuminati already infiltrated the global governments as can be see on the Dollar bill.
https://people.howstuffworks.com/10-things-people-believe-about-illuminati5.htm

no 2 words being smart is always good for our health, But this thread not about not being smart then BTC becomes scam? I have placed some points here.. May be you haven't read the thread well but just read the topic. Anyways what you said also right. Thanks for your participation.  :)

May be. But many people don't know about them right? at least many people don't know about rothchilds family as well. it is said they 2 have close interconnection.

Very good explanation. Some people already pointed out this fact. I too agree with you guys on this point. It looks like this is something out of their control. As you said all banks controlled by them except banks of Russia and North korea, Cuba etc. May be BTC hurts them. But I wonder they would try to stop BTC if the hurt is so serious on them. I don't know, But I guess they can do nothing about this even though they are so powerful.

Who knows Japanese are joined with Illluminati. MJ one time accused Sony Music US former chief in public. He is a Japanese.  :)

Obviously that makes market cap bigger and bigger which means crypto currency market become more strong and Crypto haters try to do something against it But I think that is something out of their control so they will have to kiss the dust eventually. in that perspective I love  Crypto and BTC Cos it gives us a chance to get rid of 1% of world who rules the rest 99% of poor us. Lets hope for the best,

It means they face crypto treat they too getting involved in it as they have nothing to do with the trend. [Nothing is impossible with the technology now.] Yep that is not a lie.

Yes it is, I too think so , As you think how they will approach to destabilize the cypto ? What they really can do ?  any guesses ?

NOwdays, I'm sure there is big company or a bunch of billionares are on control of BTC market, the fact we don't really know that is what make me skecptical about the illuminati

You mean Illuminati bought more BTC recently in order to cripple it and that is the reason why BTC price climbed unbelievably ? If it really happened what will be their next step? 

someone did his research gj.
For first fact who said it company ,it acts as company but officialy it isnt as its not registered in any government.
Second it has earnings from its circulation buy sale demand or on English how popular is it.(anyway it started from trust as it didn't have any value ,people or visionary's donated and helped it grow)
Third Ok really then how its value change o.O it has been regulated by program.
Fourth if internet stops it just halts its transaction as you know internet history is recorded on massive hard drives.
Fifth that will change I mean really I think that btc is not even decade old patience.
Sixth when you use credit card do you have transaction fee do you pay banks to keep you're credit card working? They have to live from something its called stock market.
Seventh you have to be careful as its still in development , so if you lose it its totaly you're fault I can relate to that you will get over it in time. :)
Eight every human has different opinion on same facts.
Ninth how old is stock market (or should I say old system of banking) of course its more fluid as it had more years to perfect we will see what will happen to this after that many years.
Tenth of course they are not part of it as they can't get dime from it why do you think countries are baning it its not in their interests as it will destroy old system of humanity.

And now for the illuminati they only predicted new world order that doesn't mean they are part of it ( or are they) anyway don't be ignorant accept new system as you accepted smartphone you can't live without it and every one was sceptic about it.
Peace out.

Bitcoin is a bubble with zero value. It's obvious.

yes I forgot if you lose real wallet who will you sue? Same thing with btc.

That's true , Risk is always there.. it is totally up to us whether you take or not. When the rewards come its totally up to too. similarly lose too. Yeah that is the golden rule. Always risk your money what you can afford..

I think that they can be from anywhere I mean really..

original post writer would say why are you defending are you one of them :P

I don't really know why people are fascinated with these Illuminati conspiracies. I know a lot of people that when they hear the word "Illuminati", they can talk about it for all day. This is just hilarious and should be put in off topic.

It's interesting how for everything that people find kind of misterious of can't be fully explained or can't find some reasons to explain huge success it's always connected to some conspiracy theories.
This follows Bitcoin from the begininig and people always make up new theories. Personaly I don't think that Bitcoin has anything to do with illuminati or any other similar group. Or alliens, like some have also said.

they pop up out of nowhere. Because they were first anonymous and no one knows who are they or where are they that's why (my opinion that they are above average intelligent people) everything is speculation about them.

I think Bitcoin will now proove once and for all there is no iluminati. Finally the power will go in the hands of common people, with the help of Bitcoin and Crypto!

I agree, this sounds revolutionary. Bitcoin is continuously spreading and the interested people are increasing too. Not surprisingly because of it's wonderful Worth. Anyone can work on it as long as you have the skills. In addition, it was a great help to many people to have an additional income while they have no stable work. Actually I know many students and undergrad who are engaging themselves into this kind of work. Well, it is good to hear from my side that they can help their parents in their everyday expenses.

For me was very funny to read all this thread. The funniest thing is that Bitcoin was born just to be a decentralized money and take away power for Banks and Governments and now I read that it is an Illuminati Scam! LOL

If Illuminati community is true then it also maybe their scam because there is a theory in the world says that everything in the world was controlled by a secret society.If everything means the bitcoin also controlled by them.But we knows that bitcoin is decentralized and no government can intrude here so the price may bump or dump at anytime.So if you want to invest on bitcoin you need to understand these risks before making an investment.

You can say like that. And it is still relevant,. you mean unlike in principles i guess.

why do people just think bitcoin is an investment, buy and it will increase itself forever, then mark it as scam when the price suddenly dump?
have you guy ever find something relatives to how it work and what could it change this world? it's not a silver coin in souvernear shop, not a string of characters, but the solutions to overcome the issue of our old transaction. That why it gainned lots of attention from all over the world

Yeah it is skeptical. considering How illuminati work, illuminati observers may think that Illuminati behind the BTC and the Crypto. Who knows ? But as the methods works opposition way base on different principles( as seems) there shouldn't be any interconnection between these two as discuss earlier on this thread.

You got your answers for my original points. I like more the 4th answer. the hard disk factor. I do a research about it.

Why do you say so? Many people  keep saying same story what you repeated here right now, Since BTC came to the scene. but so far They all have been wrong but BTC being accepted by world wild people day by day, so its value moving up steadily, It never did fall down. So as you think anyone can say that BTC is a bubble further more? my opinion is no...

wow, in the last couple of months i have read a lot of funny theory about BTC, starting from "BTC is halal or haram?", "trust me, i'm a market senior magament yadda yadda, sell everything because BTC are cursed!" and now the Illuminati consiprancy.
What's next? BTC are the primary cause of flat earth? Or why not BTC are used to pay aircrafts for the chemical trails? An asteroid will hit planet earth and guess what? It's because of BTC!
Bad, bad bitcoin, you are the cause of millions of deaths all around the world..
At least this kind of topic are funny to read :)

I think that BTC will not be scammed. At present it is the first asset of new blockchain technology. Several centures ago we had metal money, the 20th centure was the centure of paper money and now it new century with new technologies 

That was harsh don't you think I mean bold..

example fb has hangar that has billion of gb or terabytes that keep storing fb pictures and profiles etc google it same goes for Internet no one can confirm that but I'm sure if fb has that why don't you think that internet doesn't have it?(just in case)

maybe illuminati can I dunno..

Well maybe the person say that bitcoin is illuminati scam is the one who didn't research about bitcoin that's why she/he dont know what is really the intention of bitcoin  . Try to research about bitcoin so you will know what is bitcoin already  .

Yep of you have evil mind with money...

So crypto is the future ? That will be amazing.. but again then  those people will take over crypto from the common people.. won't they?

In all your points you don't have any proof of Illuminati to be involved.

There are a lot of thoughts, opinions around Bitcoin, there is even some funny author who thinks that Bitcoin is made by right-wing extremists.
You can find some discussion about this in this article:
https://steemit.com/politics/@voloshyn/cryptocurrency-philosophy-and-politics-right-wing-and-left-wing-influences

And finally, yes if internet stops to exists, Bitcoin will stop to exist too.
But do you think paypal will remain? )) (Or any other type of online payment method)

When something emerges out of the accepted frame, people used to create new theories about it and look at it with suspicious eye. May be that is the reason. However it is always better to look at things open minded being wisely rather than accepting everything blindly

while it gains lot of attention many people suspect its reliability as well, Thats why this type of opinions emerge, We can't blame them as it is normal, having this kind of conversation among us we can make things more clear and we can abolish their doubts as well.   

I don't wanna handle answers. I just want to know the truth listening to different opinions. after meeting 1000 opinions 1000 each other ,1000 flowers will bloom. Have you not heard that saying  ;) Thanks for your reply...

This is the best point as many members of this forum already pointed out for this thread including you. I too take it in positive way. Because illuminati need and BTC Process not working together. That is a fact. Thanks for your review..

Thats great,  if you are keen enough you can have your financial freedom which is , they have taken from us, isn't it? They ask us to work 365 days, no time to allocate to enjoy the life what we got rather working.... on that hand, I love Crypto and the its concept.

This came into controversy long back, that bitcoin as well virtual currencies were much related to the illuminati network. Same now has got termed to be a scam, and I too have a thinking that virtual currency too is influenced by illuminati network. As it is decentralized none is capable of predicting the truth behind the entire cryptocurrency.

Yeah most of people got same idea what you got here now in this forum. I too agree with you. Thanks for participation bro..

Yeah People normally hesitate to accept something new which come out of the traditional frame at the first place. hmmm Yeah May be thats the reason why some people say "Crypto is the future"

Expect some bank banks of Cuba, Russia, N. Korea all banks of in the world controlled by them , As BTC decentralized it seems they can't control it.

This is so funny.. I cant stop laughing when I see your comment.  ;D ;D
Haram, cursed.. lol.. haha... But I think my points are more rational if you read carefully, they are placed well so that we can have a proper conversation.

Some of what you write might be true or the possible truth but the question here is how does illuminati involve in this? Maybe in what some says that illuminati is a powerful organization that involve in evil deeds and lead by the one "dont want to say his name". (just not comfortable with i believe in God). But if bitcoin is really related to this org i guess, people use bitcoin not because it was controlled by this org. Its their own free will because they believe in the potential of bitcoin and potential earnings they might have with bitcoin. Bitcoin is not controlled by them and it will never be. So just make another beautiful fact and continue spreading the good news

[[people use bitcoin not because it was controlled by this org. Its their own free will because they believe in the potential of bitcoin and potential earnings they might have with bitcoin.]] I like this part of your answer.. I can agree with you mate. Thanks for the reply...

Ok seriously this went wrong way and as for religions illuminati have their and Muslims have their no need of involving it and ruining post.

Money in this world is also a scam, they produce it as they like. Do not believe everything, including I do not trust you.

What I believe is bitcoin is a valuable asset, if you do not have it you will regret it.

It might be. But only those people can say this who don't know who started bitcoin. I mean, how did university students got into all this illuminati stuff. seriously!

Apart from all those points why you entered in bitcoin and crypto market then? ::)

not defending anyone my own opinion that illuminati is group of people in search of knowledge (maybe controlling some stuff that happens in world but not with weapons with brains as far as I know some people are in need of control as the lack of their development or lack of human behaviour don't get me wrong you all know what I mean and no one should get offended as it wasn't intention it was a fact) and as for BTC normally if illuminati exist they are part of as they are also humans. And as for evil deeds and stuff like that you know that there is two types of people same goes for them that is choice that human makes by its own will or forcefully in some cases depends on the situation or life that person have or the choices it made. And for god part that is endless loop of discussions between science and religion which will never be clear but it will always be fun taking part in it.

How do we know, may be you who claim Bitcoin is an Illuminati, may be you work for Bitcoin Cash? ))
I think there is interesting competition right now going on)
Anyway, I sold my BitcoinCash when it costed $200 or so, so I'm not willing to regret about it)

a lot of 100% pure speculation is already here, then there is nothing wrong about its existence. if you understand that fact there is no inherent value in BTC - like there is no inherent value in gold, janaga never doubts its existence.

Congrats finally someone knows something, rock doesn't have value because no one wants to buy it which means that price of something is determined by how much people wants it same goes for everything.random example with rock.

in buissness words buy and sell demand by desired item.forgot to mention that.

btc it already from 2009 and u said its illuminati scam . what the point you said that

Hahah read between lines joke alert . anyway you know the point or no point.

Fiat currency and the world banking system is a scam, so there's that..  ;)

bitcoin is a valuable asset/ Yep, I don't wanna regret in future. planing to collect them as much as possible.

Bitcoin is not a illuminate scam. Bitcoin is a legal entity or a legit business.
They comply to all requirements that the government requires which gives them a authority to operate. So from this I don’t this so that their services are scam.

I think , it is as simple as "supply demand theory" .. lol  :D

Hmmm. Bitcoin works in opposite way of Illuminati, Thats what the majority of here pointed out and thats very much logic. Thanks for your vew mate..

I think there is big company or a bunch of billionares are on control of BTC market

Then indeed, They can control Cryptomarket , not only BTC. As BTC is the king of all Cryptos.

I strongly agree with your words all the facts that you say are true but bitcoin decentralized no central entity / institution that makes money, but money is printed by the user. This is what causes Bitcoin to emerge as a decentralized system, and the government can not control the bitcoin price. therefore bitcoin trade is not regulated by anyone.

That's correct Dxiax26, Thanks for your view, decentralization means a lot when it comes to BTC or Crypto

Nice one  ;D

yeah he is quite good at jokes.. Thanks  a lot making us laugh.. ;D ;D ;D kkk

Most of this is true, save the following:

3. Its not regulated everywhere, but trust and believe there is at least a basis of regulation in some markets, like China and the US for example. Its property here; the same laws that govern maximum transaction value before reporting affect btc.

4. you could have a consensus with a wide enough LAN

7. Depends on who lost them LOL. If you lose them from a privately managed wallet then no, but if they are on an exchange, TOS doesnt always remove them from this liability (ask MTGOX)..

9. Wat? Stock sales take three days to clear, as do deposits. Contrast that with 15 minute deposits, and instant transactions and withdrawals. This is actually one of the major points of rhetoric when comparing stocks to crypto assets, crypto is much, much faster.

Bitcoin is not illuminati. If anything, it is the exact opposite. The leaders of the illuminati (The Rothschilds) own all the government banks which use fiat. They would never push a currency that would make them lose money and discontinue the use of fiat. Bitcoin is decentralized which means it can't be regulated and tracked. Two of the biggest things the illuminati does to us.

It is not a scam i would have agreed with your statement if you said this back in 2009 now the whole world accept btc so its foolish to think btc as a scam .

Bitcoin is risky and risk mean fast money.

Bitcoin different than gambling in gambling you will lost all while with bitcoin will lost half or win more.

if Bitcoin is an Illuminati Scam, then fiat, gold, all the investments, antibiotics, internet and all the modern technologies are Illuminati scams, too. Come on man, we don't need any more conspiracy theory!

There is some truth in your statement. However I didn't say BTC is a gambling..

in 2009 even though I said BTC such a great investment you wouldn't believe, However I didn't say BTC is a scam, I am just extracting some one's idea here so that I can view BTC experts views and learn from them. Thanks..

 ;D ;D ;D Don't blame me man, I am just extracting some one's idea here. This is not my opinion but to put here in order to get educated from you guys. Thanks. .

I think you are correct, You know the facts.

Hi Bro, Thanks for the response ,
[9. Wat? Stock sales take three days to clear, as do deposits. Contrast that with 15 minute deposits, and instant transactions and withdrawals. This is actually one of the major points of rhetoric when comparing stocks to crypto assets, crypto is much, much faster. ] This is something now I got to know, I have not been in to Stock Market. I will check that out. Thanks for your explanation.

Scam or no scam,bitcoins has changed lives and financial conditions of people who have invested in it by yielding them very good returns

If it was an illuminati scam, then thanks to them. It has made us richer than before. It had also given chance for low and medium investors to make a profit without doing anything.

That little country that has nuked and some crazy leader who's name is not Kim pulls the strings
and these strings are so strong that they can even make building fall down like happened on 9-11
that were not even hit by a plane.

They are legend when it comes to banking and I fear them so much that i dare not call them by name.

"Illuminati" yeah right it will be the Freemason next or the girl guides so is that you Alex Jones
because I've seen this script once too often AJ

Its depend how we used the bitcoin. Maybe if we support satan that is illuminati but if used in good thing maybe the possibility is not for that. Everything is here is for good of everyone but the used is the one that make this into bad.

I am agree with your all points but still i won't stop my self to invest and trade with bitcoins. Since Its only bitcoin, who help me in my life and solve my all money related problems. Not only me there's many people who change there life with the help of bitcoins. Instead of founding bitcoins's negative facts,  i suggest you to read some advantage of bitcoins.

Yeah then Illuminati made some people richer. :) may be, some one can argue that they did so with a plan taking back more from them later  :D

What I noted here is, There are some people who agree given points but still don't bother about investing money in BTC. There are some people who don't agree with those points, ,You agree with them. but still want to engage with the opportunity. However I have already taken your advice given in your comment. Will try to take advangate..Thanks..

This is not about how we use them? this is about who is behind them ?

To accept new things which is more profitable their is someone which is rival hate bitcoin and doesn’t bear that why it is rising. They just tell the people it is scam or it is related to illuminate. I don’t think so it is related to illuminate because stasho was Japanese. Not illuminate. Bitcoin is more profitable currency in the coming future. Don’t accept any negative propaganda against the bitcoin.

for your attention. I am not against BTC or Crypto. I just opened this thread to launch a discussion. And I think  we had very good conversation here about BTC and Illuminati. So it is clear, That BITCOIN acts against the Illuminati purposes. So, I can't be Illuminati scam. But it is sure that BTC hurts Illuminati. They will try anything do stop BTC in future. But I don't see any chances for them to do so. Only thing they can try to do is destroy internet. But they can't do it now either.  ;D

Bankers scam you mean and you can follow the path back from foreign agents: S-M from Japan
to hardware manufactures enjoying the CPU wars and big oil who like to see more electricity
wasted.

90KWH of energy per transaction (Not new coins) just to store 250 bytes of data in the
blockchain is a scam alright 

Not content with this the men with big noses want a piece directly via banking so have
taken over all the so called decentralized full nodes and created a monopoly and this
allows them to charge us $45 per transaction.

See the graph https://blockchain.info/pools
Ten big names control 90% of all transactions and the development team for BTC
acts like they can do nothing to stop this because they are paid for too.

Segwit2x here I come

 

I don’t think so that bitcoin is an illumanti scam. All news about it is just rumours, gossips and allegations; in other words all these things are not true and they have no basis or proof to support this.
The company and management of bitcoin is a legal company and has a authority from the government to  conduct business services in the country.

[[The company and management of bitcoin is a legal company and has a authority from the government to  conduct business services in the country.]]

Excuses me, are you sure about what you talking about? BTC is decentralized, bitcoin isn't regulated by any one. right? So it is not a company or Inc...

every day the theories are more strange  ;D ;D

Yes and these stories we hear about google being in 90% of all pages on the internet is made up even if you can view source and see it here
and X-Boxes do not turn on every 15 minuets when the power lights off to access the disk drive plus LAN devices (DLNA) and any logs from routers that show traffic
from X-Boxes or Windows uploading content over SSL is all fake and is coming from Russian hackers who have seized control of your wifi-router 

Do not call it CPU wars between miners as they are forced to spend more and more money buying Intel chips and
all the electrical energy wasted to send and replicate data 20,000 times is produced by renewable sources.

 ;D out of all the theories ever heard about the origin of bitcoin this one really appeals me the most. Not because it sounds like truth but just because its the most mysterious out of all. But I think we need to call upon mighty theymos to give an exact answer to this query. Because as far as I know he knows who has started the bitcoin and its blockchain. But your points give no connection to any illuminate scheme except for the fact that its founder is anonymous.

Yeah that's why heading comes with a ? mark.  ;)
I think this thread could create a ideal platform to launch a discussion  Bitcoin and CRYPTO as many people still suspect of CRYTP and BTC. Thanks for your participation either..

Projects are being made by developers who are creating ico's and promoting their altcoins. In this way there are a lot of people who will have a job because they need participants in their campaign to advertise their coin in order to get more investors.

Hey if someone want to be part of crypto marketing campaign of particular coin, how to join with them? do you have any idea?

Gee, I think you might be right
https://i.imgur.com/mZ2diog.jpg

Totally agree

ZABI446, One question, Thanks for the response, If you agree with these points can I know why you are here? may be you got your reasons...Thanks

I think you can contact them and inform them that yor are willing  to play a role. I saw some such tweetings in twitter

With many of those your reason, it won't makes bitcoin as failed coins, isn't?
Since Bitcoin was created in 2009, many investor comes and leave but Bitcoin still exist even with more higher fees transaction.

It's decentralized for that reason, thank Satoshi for not making bitcoin as a company or some thing otherwise it would have fallen by now.
It's a crypto currency, how can you expect it to have profits? It's more of an investment too, so people have got capital gains.
Who said so? There are centralized exchanges that regulate trading and block your accounts  :-\.
If the internet goes down, the whole world will follow, not only bitcoin. So do not worry. A lot of people do accept bitcoin, you just haven't found the right person just like most people don't find their right girl.  ::)
Bitcoin transactions are free, miners prefer a good fee so that they give priority to your transaction to be confirmed first. You can sue an exchange or the wallet creators if they play an role in stealing your bitcoins.
Everyone is greedy in this world at a certain point of time. You're right, bitcoin isn't that liquid. But the fucking crypto market is liquid for hell. Again who said so? SEC monitors cryptos, exchanges to avoid scams and stuff. Next time get your facts right.

No 7. You can't sue anything if you loose your bitcoins,
[You can sue an exchange or the wallet creators if they play an role in stealing your bitcoins. ]
Interesting, to whom we make complaint about frauds of exchanges ?

I agree with you that Bitcoin is not illuminati. It is a digital currency that has no linkage with illuminati. If it has a link then members who have been aware of this fact and it would have been exposed long ago. To belong to such a group will require a price to be paid.Bitcoin is not an illuminati scam.

Well I think there are many "secret organisations" and I think it is highly possible that they influence something somehow (stock market, ....) because why not ??

Your points are all correct anyway. But these are few of bitcoin's advantages. However I wouldn't say it is a illuminati scam. Just because you're not that familiar to it you cannot name anything as an illuminati scam.

Whatever it might be, it will never be as much a scam as the FIAT money which is created in computers with no limit no rule and then used to exercise power.

I don't think so if it is an illuminati scam, because many of people use it and earn from it, there has a chance that it is a scam of illuminati but i don't know how,
maybe the users will be addicted to Bitcoins. But many of the users get Addicted in it because they earn money by investing in it and just simply buying bitcoin.

Some of the facts are only pluses for bitcoin (decentralization and independence). The collapse of the Internet? Are you seriously? Illuminati ... All this is like a fantasy.

Illuminati? Wow. That went downhill fast.

I think it is quite possibly the other way round. Fiat is the economy established by the Illuminati to gain control over the masses. Thats how it definitely has worked thus far!

The sinners and devil people will not understand about the illuminati.If you are a gay,praying to idols or some other pagan with demons in you you will not have the blessing or option of seeing the truth of how as we close in on the end of the world satan and his governments are slowly imprisoning the world.Like they taught us in church when the people walk away from GOD GOd always make the judgment of allowing satan and his people to enslave the world.Eveyone who support homosex and false religions are the real alqaeda!

For example like how hitbtc.com a fbi company robbed me of my 600k usd and noone says anything,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217068.0

they rob from many people and nothing happens because it is a scam conspiracy controlled by satans sinners who are blinded by evil spirits.Listen to the reporter in russia who said btc was made by the us CIA.Yes it is all a government scam the computer and the system online is controlled by satan and his us government puppets,

Daniel 12: 10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Anyone who make fun of people who believe in the illuminatti are in need of exorcism because the demons you have inherited from your family or from doing sin in this life

That's the opinion of most of us about this matter, including me  :). Illuminati works in one world order. But Crypto doesn't. it is decentralized,  totally opposite way

What if illuminati created bitcoin? Anybody know how the elite influence the global economy and how they might cause or atleast easily predict the crashes? How would illuminati go about reaching their goal of one world government? Has anybody noticed how the impending economic collapse goes side by side with the rise of bitcoin?

Now imagine if, illuminati through NSA created bitcoin, they own the federal reserve and the central banks so buying bitcoin and manipulating it's price is no problem for them. They know the biggest economic crash is on it's way. By that time bitcoin will be huge, even more people will switch to cryptocurrencies as their fiat money inflates through the roof just like in venezuela(hell maybe venezuela is a test run for them, seeing as the venezuelan government blames multinational corporations for manipulating venezuelan economy). Then, since illuminati created bitcoin and caused it to become popular by itself pumping up the price and getting all of the world on board with it and helping the price pump even more. They just have to wait for a lot of wealth to be destroyed in the coming economic collapse, then just collapse bitcoin and other cryptos with it, destroying all the wealth the people had transferred into cryptos.

So this would mean that an unimaginably large amount of all wealth in the world would have vanished in a very short period of time, the world would be in chaos just like venezuela is now. This could be the "end of the world" scenario many people have been predicting for a long time. You know how "prepping" has become popular. So like 9/11 this would be huge and would give the elite means to impose their own cryptocurrency perhaps backed by bankers(ripple?) or the US government or whatever. And because of what we saw with bitcoin they could outlaw all other cryptocurrencies so this tragedy could never happen again.

Somebody please tell me im crazy and know nothing of what im writing about here. But to me this seems like the perfect plan for illuminati to take over all the wealth in the world and have their One World Government with their one world currency.

Honestly thinking about this and realizing how it actually could be possible, if we were in illuminati wanting to impose a one world government, wouldn't this be exactly how we could achieve that?


This link explains the NSA connection better:
http://bitcoincrash.news/2017-12-10-evidence-points-to-bitcoin-being-an-nsa-psyop-roll-out-one-world-digital-currency.html

Of course it is. They want to control the world through bitcoin.

Also, when the whole world is in the state which venezuela is in right now. It's going to be very easy to reduce human population to their desired 500million.. Honestly all this makes me a bit scared, knowing that it's atleast possible in theory, right?

How can they control the world BITCOIN. Block Chain technology totally works in opposite way , It is decentralized , so unregulated..

They don't control the world with bitcoin. They control the price because they have so much money and bitcoin. They get the whole world to invest in bitcoin and then crash it destroying all that wealth for good.(apart from a few smart investors who cashed out before the crash)
Bitcoin wouldn't even be used as a currency in the future, when all the bitcoin has been mined, whos gonna use bitcoin? Whos gonna mine it? Theres many other things that prevent bitcoin from being the currency that we will use. If it's not illuminatis plan, bitcoin will still not be the future, some other coin or probably many other altcoins will be used for different things. Bitcoin was only needed to kickstart the blockchain revolution. Just like anything in this world, bitcoin will die off and will have many successors.

Ok. lets think in that way, One day bitcoin dies, and another crypto coin take Bitcoin's place. So Illuminati can do the same what they did to BTC, Then again after that coin's death, Illuminati will follow the next coin king. like that they can destroy the trustworthy of BITCOIN right?

Yeah. Obviously.

Satoshi Nakomoto = inako satomot = inamotto = Illuminati

NICE TRY... Appreciate.. ;)

All coins are controlled by the Illuminati.

I'm tired of this thing. Always associating the so called 'secret society' to anything that is hype. Come on guys, there are so many facts lying around, just pick something that is right.

But almost all coins are decentralized .. ;D how they control them? lol

I DONT THINK SO BECAUSE BTC IS NOT A COMPANY ITS A CURRENCY

Its is not, theirs have not a prove of bitcoin is illuminati scam  >:(

Exactly, because I believe that the fiat currency is made by the illuminati. But perhaps bitcoin was created to stop the illuminati's wicked schemes. Added to that statement, the illuminati would not go around creating a digital currency that would help destroy something that they created (fiat currency).
That is why, I strongly believe that bitcoin has nothing to do with the illuminati.

The currency we are using is being controlled by the Illuminati ... bitcoin is extremely tight control is very difficult. I think bitcoin is the best option today

After they crash the system there'd be no need to do it again so I don't understand your point. They'd have their one world government with a one world currency controlled by them.

And to all the other people commenting here:
Im curious, everybody dissing this idea. Have you looked much into our world in the past years? How everybody is getting sicker and sicker and are being poisoned with food, meds, water and mind controlled with media.
How do you think wars start? Who starts them?
Have you looked into the people who are supposedly the illuminati or the elite who rule the world? Being interested in these things and researching them for years atleast gives a hell of a story with countless of hours of entertainment and "oh shit, really?" moments.

I can't help but to think that most of you have never paid much thought to these things. The ridiculous thing is that these people the "illuminati" are very open about their desires of a one world government and their desire to reduce human population. They even admit war is good for business and many other things if you care to look up what they've said. They admit it themselves, this doesn't ring a bell for you? How mind controlled do you have to be to outright ridicule anybody who dares to ask a question?

Do you guys watch a lot of TV? That thing that happened awhile ago, which everybody is talking about, crazy right? These topics you talk about which are broadcast on the TV and other mainstream media are exactly the kind of topics they want you to discuss about so that your mind doesn't wonder off to more meaningful things.

Anyway, I know you'd have to be batshit crazy to believe any of this. Not like i go around telling everybody to watchout for the illuminati either, just saw an opportunity to share a little story here. I also invest in bitcoin without fear of it being a scam. 200e/BTC thank you illuminati!

Illuminati knows their days are limited, people are getting more and more aware of their fiat currency scam so they have to do something drastic to stop the people from taking over their power. First create bitcoin to make everybody think that this is their way to flip off the illuminati. When actually the money they put on bitcoin goes to the pockets of the illuminati in the end. And then it's easy for them to destroy your wealth because it's all digital. Bitcoin price and all other altcoin prices are very obviously already being manipulated by whales.

Imagine if you're the illuminati and you see bitcoin rising out of nowhere, at the very LEAST you'd atleast want a piece of this new technology by buying an enormous amount of it. I know if i was up there i'd print dollars and buy bitcoin to get control of it. Anybody read about the stuff how TWO people were responsible of bitcoins price rise from 150$ to over 1000$? At the MTGox exchange with two bots, look it up.
Now do you realize what they could do if they had bought a million or two million bitcoin? They've had the money to do it. Just wait for the right time when our stock, bond, debt and all other bubbles burst soon, then sell 2million bitcoin and the price of bitcoin would instantly crash..

So wether im full of shit or not. Im certain that some of the richest people on the planet own a huge chunk of all the cryptocurrencies, atleast the bigger ones. So the rich get richer and they do it at the expense of the poor or at the expense of inexperienced traders(most of them).

The richest families on earth have been the richest families for a long time. They've gone through a lot and kept their wealth and power. Needless to say these people are very intelligent. Theres no way in hell they are going to let cryptocurrencies to just flush their power out of their hands.

They are either going to outlaw the shit out of cryptos and defeat their competition or they are going to adopt it and be part of it and let it be part of their power and wealth.
If you see bitcoin and other cryptos being adopted fully in our communities, you can be sure that the elite allowed it to happen.

I think the REAL crazy people here are the ones who think that illuminati doesn't already have their hands in bitcoin and other cryptos. Wether they own, control it or not..they surely are part of it, trying to use it to their advantage.

I don't know if it is an illuminati scam, or it just simply a currency in the cyber world. Many says that it is illuminati scam but we don't know if it is true, because many big people are involved in it.

Yes correct, Even I am keep saying this when people asked me about future of CRYPTO and Blockchain. They have been ruling the world through out last 100 years. They are so strong and We can't think that they will allow some one to destroy their kingdom easily but I have no idea how would they approach to this. But somehow they will try to do something. But It won't be easy at all . or They will adapt to CRYPTO.
However we must be thankful to Mr. Satoshi who showed a path for people to get rid of their authority which is not good for the majority of the world. go and grab your freedom. path is there and protect it for the future.

It does not matter if the coins are non centralized that is not the point.how do most people get the coins? through an exchange where they know everything about you and where you live and where you are located by your Ip address.It is genius really. The coins are not traceable and all that talk but if you have to get the coins or sell them and all exchanges are controlled by gay people, witchcraft people or freemasons your access to those coins is under the control of humans possessed by demons. In that way they have the thing under control,  think outside the box.With cash they had none of that control, digital money is 100% in the favor of the devil and his conspiracy

I'm curious to ask: do you even know what Illuminati is exactly? Because for me, it's hard to hear about all these strange, weird conspiracy theories...

Evidence is hitbtc.com, they are a shell company and their support is always using aliases.The hitbtc.com company has already been disolved and they are still up and doing business.Another part of the fbi and illuminatti conspiracy proven


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217068.0

Hitbtc robbed me of 206 coins of bitcoin cash about 400k usd and nothing happens no governments stop them, why beause it is a conspiracy
How do they move money to your bank account and receive money from your bank account to your account , because they have a deal with the banks a connection with them, banks equals illuminatti !!
So it is a LLC company which is dissolved, its support uses aliases and they steal from many people not just me but it still has the banking relationships to manage milions of dollers of movement of money.THINK the deviil is more real that you. being blind does not change anything

Daniel 12 10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand

It is hard to approve that they exit as they are secrete organization which is small unity of the rich of the rich. But when we look around and the way things went on, going on We feel like something is not right. truth is hidden, wars are going on. but the reason under cover, (ie. iraq war - never found mass killing weapons) etc..

in my point of view most people like bitcoin because its a free currency and decentrelized there is no thierd party that can controle it, its obvious that bitcoin Future is dark its hard to say because many goverments starting banning it and other adopting it like japan,

It's in my opinion a non existing thing, but its supposed to be a group of people running the world basically.

I have read an article about the conspiracy theory that  bitcoin is created by CIA or some underground government agency who rule the world, nevertheless, these are just tall tales. Think of it as a phenomenon that is meant to happen because of the advancement of technology and human's innovation.

Though we can’t totally speculate that the Illuminati may have a hand on Bitcoin, this is certainly a possibility. But Bitcoin per se, is not a scam because hundreds, if not thousands, have already earned and succeeded with it. So though the Illuminati "may" be controlling or manipulating Bitcoin, Bitcoin itself cannot be tagged a scam.

Very far from that. I don't have much understanding in the Illuminatii stuff but I know for sure that Bitcoin is not scam. The problem is that cryptocurrencies are quite new to many and people lack understanding on it. Online transactions are generally characterised with some level of scam but cannot single out bitcoin as scam

there's no value behind the dollar

I doubt about it but at the same time i might belive that illuminati created bitcoin, thats why the creator of bitcoin is unknown. What makes it more interesting is the thought of bitcoin is a scam. How can a currency be scam? The one that scam are the people who take advantage of what bitcoin can give to the community and not bitcoin itself.

Wait, what? **face palm.


Bitcoin is not a scam and yes you could lose everything quickly if you'll panic sell during the dips and to follow your points-

1. Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency - for more info visit www.bitcoin.org
2. We, people who are trading, buying and selling bitcoins are the ones who are taking revenues, profits.
3. It's because bitcoin is decentralized.
4. No, bitcoin won't exit if internet goes down. The world is entirely needing internet so this might happen but there are companies or organizations behind that has back up plans when internet has shutdown.
5. Few for now because of the high transaction fee but do you have any number for that "few" who accepts bitcoin?
6. Consumption of electricity for miners aren't for free (mostly).
7. Again, it's decentralized so you have to protect your bitcoins by setting up a private key and keeping it where no one knows, otherwise get an hardware wallet.
8. Don't forget there are also promoters who are calling it fraud, scam or anything negative for their interest too.
9. Not very liquid? No.
10. Government can regulate any exchange that operates to their location and people who have bitcoins.

What the f? This is one of the dumbest thread and reply that I have ever encounter, no doubt and no hurt feeling. I dont believe in that rhing, if Bitcoin is a illuminati scam I would probably stop working here, theres always a good thing somewhere ,and I am not a fan of illuminati. This not such a place where they must be involve.

     Ummm... I was really looking forward into finding something relating to the claim that this is an illuminati scam or that bitcoins are connected to illuminati. Seriously, I really have been looking for it. But hey, of illuminati is truly what people say they are, then i can say that this really might be true and we need to he careful.


      But sadly, i didn't see anything related to illuminati. But even if there was i would still remain with bitcoins.

Illuminati is smart and wont tell you they control bitcoin.

All your fact have not convince me to agree with you that bitcoin is an illuminati scam. If you said so it means every thing about internet is also an illuminati scam. Do not wait for someone to tell you about bitcoin carryout your own research.

Haha you are right, this thread is very funny. The newbie who posted his statement about bitcoins is obviously did the wrong research on how bitcoins work and algorithm of block chain. Bitcoins is very profitable because it is tax free and since it is a digital currency we can use it as a credit card so we should not complain anything about bitcoins and believe that there's really a bright future on it.

You know how you know the illuminatti is behind it/ because satans world system is pumping the bitcoin movement on all their tv stations and big media outlets.If it was something I made no media would be talking about it because I am not with them.A people who do not believe in demons are a people that are easy to control and own

This is the most ridiculous theory that i saw today, thank you for this.
And no, illuminatis did not created this, otherwise, they would be trying to pump it right now. It does not makes sense.

What do you smoke ? give me some

Most of the things you write, are positive things in my head....

While Bitcoin continues decentralized and unregulated you shouldn't worry about illuminates and other groups seeking for power and mass control. Bitcoin was a legit creation, with the intent to give people more freedom and accessibility on their financial life, I believe the illuminates' goals are the opposite of that. Not that these groups aren't trying to blame or control Crypto-Currency somehow, but so far they didn't achieve it.

Yes completely opposite way. so far they haven't approach this cos it doesn't affect their business yet. but day by day Crypto market growing.. Sooner or later they will consider Crypto as their threat. they  (Rothschild) control the world 100 years. They own almost every central banks of the world.
So build up their kingdom through lot of difficulties, Will they let their kingdom destroy ? I doubt. they will try to do something, But on the other hand As I see it is not easy for them to destroy crypto either.
option one and only as I think destroy the internet or block it, But it is not possible too.
So will they adapt to Crypto?
I think we have to wait and see...
HOWEVER we should be greatful to Mr. Satoshi for introducing this technology for the freedom of majority people who controlled by 1% minority..

According to media reports, Illuminati really support BitCoin and crypto-currencies as the only possible way of decentralizing cash flows in modern society. From the point of view of the tool dedicated to BitCoin has a huge potential for improving the value system and free supranational economy.
The beginning of the history of crypto-currencies is considered to be 2008, when a document appeared on the Internet with a description of bitcoins, published under the name Satoshi Nakamoto. It is not known who hid and continues to hide under this pseudonym, whether it was one author or a group of developers. Can this really be the program of the New World Order? Wait and see.

I believe Crypto-Currency have became too lofty and strong to be destroyed at this point. Their only option is to "adapt" to it, yes. But they don't feel like any mortal man of the world, they feel to be different and superior, so this "adaption" won't be friendly with the Crypto community, they will try to impose their wishes somehow.

I have seen rumours Soros could be behind Ripple currency, with the intention to bump the currency, buying Bitcoins next, while Bitcoin investors were exchanging their BTCs into Ripple to hold this AltCoin. It surely seems FUD, but the strategy is interesting and can be used by greedy guys like that to accumulate Bitcoins while fools give all their BTCs to hold AltCoins that may not worth in the future.

Another possibility of "adaption" is by country's regulations: These billionaires have great influence in different countries, especially the poorest ones, which they send donations. They can put their own agenda on these countries with the help of local governments and politicians. Regulations that will weak the individual enthusiasts and fortify the system we are trying to avoid.


I fully agree with you.

I have opposite idea.
Why it developed? To the legal money the bitcoin problem as you said will become no problem.
Paper money also just an paper.
Bitcoin although no company but more and more company is acknowledged it it is worldwide pay, it is more advanced, that why many countries try to stop it developing but can’t, thus the safe I think it is equal will keep the safe of it . It is not decided by one country or one government so it can go long

I don't see bitcoin to be an illuminati scheme as they would not be willing to give financial freedom to people all over the world.Rather they would only want to control the whole world by becoming more richer.Bitcoin has made the lives of thousands of people across the world and free mansions would not be liking it.

I like your views. You try see the picture with available possibilities. Great,
Yes they are stronger, They doing this since 100 years, So they are richer than anyone else,
They can control governments , they can buy politicians,
Also agree with Ripple thing, That's I don't like Ripple , I am sure they are behind Ripple in order to damage the Crypto market as much as possible. but unluckily greedy people go after even ripple. We must expose hidden agenda behind ripple to the people. but as you said even this opporutunity can be used to accumulate your Bitcoin amunt if you are smart enough to deal with it. Hope for the best,
I hope Crypto will exist defeating all the conspiracies.

What if Illuminati owns the majority of the bitcoin?

Bitcoin is not an illuminati scheme and not a scam. But I can tell you that few are using bitcoins to scam people. They use bitcoins as a front to lure people and invest on them like a networking scam. They are spreading on social media sites. Beware of them. Investigate before to buy btc.

That questions is in my mind too. What if they bought all bitcoins ?  :)

Bitcoin is not an illuminati scam because this is a real cryptocurrency, another form of currency that is created to act as a solution for the dying currency of fiat and because of bitcoin it opens a lot of opportunities to other people and it is not a scam because a scam is simply taking money from people or stealing it like the bitconnect did to its investors.

Yeah right!  If the Illuminati have a hand in it, then I must commend them. After all bitcoin is illuminating the world of digital currencies.

How can u say that bitcoin is an illuminati scam?lol. Looks like you are newbie in crypto and you need to learn how crypto works.

I think they can say bitcoin is illuminati because bitcoin is encouraging people to buy or gambling in any faucet and also people are too rushing to earn bitcoin because of money.

i liked the Illuminati shit  :D

Welcome to the decentralized world

Do you think that fiat currency have these options.

Even i do not want to see any regulations in bitcoin trading but the world is changing and expect more countries to implement these sort of regulations.

If internet goes down the entire city will go down with it,because the entire infrastructure is build around it,water ,electricity to name a few. :P

It is a new technology and with time we will see more companies using it

Initially it was almost nil but now it is a bit high,but it will change in the future .

If you loose your bitcoin,you are a stupid,make sure you know how to safe guard your coins.

There is no one promoting bitcoin as far as i know. Oh the Illuminati :P.

It will change,the transaction delays and the high fees will be sorted out soon.



 

Maybe a plot from a new Dan Brown novel or a secret society has created them so they can achieve word mastery? Personally I think it was just a group of exceptionally talented people who created Bitcoin, and 3 cheers for them for doing it. 

I disagree with your points and stop calling the great Bitcoin as an Illuminati. Bitcoin is anonymous, and can be used by anyone and everyone without restrictions from government, or jurisdiction-related issues. Bitcoin does not belong to one person, it is to the whole world and therefore no one but the holder has benefited from it.

who says this is scam? for me all of the facts that you just stated are what's so good about BTC. It's decentralized, no big corporations make money off it (no monopoly), and governments can't control your money. Bitcoin's value is solely decided by what the people are willing to pay for it. If your bank goes bankrupt, can you sue them?

Ok to be honest I have a slight doubt that this BTC is a devil's money. They said it can't be a devil money because its decentralized, but forks can be tricked. BTC might have an exploit from its dev.

Someday I believe Bitcoins will be deposited inside a man's body thru RFID microchip. There will be a cashless society. Everything can be paid by using the money stored from the chip implanted to your body.

Bitcoin was invented by CIA, Bitcoin was invented by AI, Bitcoin was invented by Aliens and now another conspiracy theory is Bitcoin is Illuminati - I just don't understand, what type of sick people we have here!

Ripple created to damage Crypto concept?, I have no reason to like  Ripple which is  centralized and backed by bankers own by rothschilds. I heard some one telling George_Soros is behind Ripple. I don't know whether it is correct or not.

Hail Eris!

Who is Eris ? can you explain more please  ? Thanks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy)

People still thinking that illuminati trying to scam people.. oh come on. Illuminati is not interested of making money in this way because their traget is curch.

No the company of bitcoin is not a scam.  It's funny that many people says that but in fact they provide lots of income so they are not deceiving the people;  they help the people to change their life.

Bitcoin is a new technology ( in the first stage ) and many people are involved in it. so, this cryptocurrency  will continue to exist despite no one know the creator of bitcoin.

If you are asking this question then all the facts in the world can't convince you otherwise.

Look at the facts,Localbitcoin is controlled by the FBI they have agents buying on that site to collect information on who is moving money.I have left bad feedback for agents many times and they can not receive bad feedback they have bulletproof accounts.It is a conspiracy
This website Bitcointalk.org is editing and erasing comments like reddit
The exchanges are controlled by front companies in th case of hitbtc who stole 300k usd from me they hitbtc.com has disolved their shadow LLc and they are still open doing business with no office or roots.They are still moving millions of dollars of people money daily and noone stops them.how can you steal and be against the law and still be open, only if youa re with satans mafia!
Before the bitcoin pump happened they media was all over bitcoin saying good things and when the explosion in price happens then they start talking about bad news and droping the price 60%, think people.If America has 5 million Satanist according to the FBI then what are they doing, they are running conspiracies and you ostiches who want to hide your head will be the one who miss the rapture and have the world tell you it was UFOs who took the people.the end is coming because you refuse to open your eyes.Call me names so you can feel deceived again and go back to sleep

hitbtc.com is a scamsite
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217068.

Thanks. I will check the link..

wtf is this sue thing, who cares, half the things you mentioned are good things

Well I don't know about the devil, I'm not superstitious. But being decentralized means no entity can control it. Unless every one of bitcoin's users is the devil? And there is no way to "hide an exploit". Bitcoin is open source software so anyone can review the source code and compile it for themselves. If you know how to code then it is quite obvious that bitcoin is just a math protocol that is not controllable and serves no one. Not the CIA, the Aliens, or some 18th. century secret society. Jeeze,  ::)

Oh and implants have already begun! https://www.rt.com/news/204315-implant-bitcoin-wallet-skin/

The company of bitcoin is not a illuminate scam or fraudulent scam. They are legal company which all operations they have are supported by the government.
Bitcoin is a wonderful investment which helps you to have a strong foundation to achieve your dreams in life in future.

How can you say that bitcoin is an illuminati scam if they help your life to be better? Company of bitcoin is not a illuminate scam. Bitcoin is legal in some country so how can you say that bitcoin is a scam. Other's are scared to work on it because they all know that this is a scam but if we tell them all the information that they need to earn here I'm really sure that they will work on it.

 I made a lot of purchases on crypto at yesterday. not just for bitcoins, but pass them out for some crypto. I think, bitcoin and some other altcoin will soon grow back in the near future.

Of course it will rise again once BITCOIN price is stable. may be after March or April.

Lol what is this another FUD for Bitcoin? Bitcoin is decentralized that's why it doesn't need any legal action for the government that's the goal of cryptocurrencies to be independent where no one can control even the government or powerful people here on Earth.

Well I agree with some the things that you mentioned above and I would also want to let you know the most people take those as the strengths of Bitcoin instead of weaknesses. But hey I am not saying Bitcoin is perfect, it is far from perfect but it is juist starting and it has great potential to change people's lives for the better, just like how it changed mine.

I have read many statements about bitcoin. Even if you say that bitcoin is decentralized and you can not sue anyone if bitcoin stops to get out. This type of investment is also that willing to risk your money. This is why investing in what you are able to lose or risk. Nobody is responsible for the loss in bitcoin we have.  8)

I'm disagree some of your statements about bitcoins.
1. Do you think other companies are legitimate and not turning into scam? Yes bitcoin is not a company but they didn't promised people to give a fixed profit it depends on the investors on what their strategy to earn profit from it from buying and selling from it and reading charts.
2. Because you can't earn fixed price here in bitcoin it depends on you how skillful you are all investment has so many risk you need to take it.
4. Do you think internet will goes down these days? i think that is impossible and even other businesses and companies if goes down you're money will lose not only in bitcoin.
5. This can be improved and i see this few months many companies accepting bitcoins now and bitcoin getting popular even here in our country i see the improvement of bitcoin.
6. That's a miners fee and if you transfer your money into different exchange there's a fee but if you transfer it from same exchange there's no fee.

I agree that your some statement is true. But we get profit from Bitcoin, I think not all is scam. And what you've said cannot stop me to hold and to trade. And I will thanks to Bitcoin because it give life what I want.

It is ignorant not to think the illuminati would want to control the earths financial system when the founder of the illumiinatti said he cares mostly about controlling the finances


Quotes by Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild talking about the USA federal reserve print all the dollars you need for free scam system
 "The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class."
  "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" —

to see where I got this
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/Federal%20Reserve%20Scam/quotes_on_the_federal_reserve.htm
 

I did not say anything about Aliens I said UFOS nice job with setting up a straw man argument that is always a sign of someone who does not want the truth but instead wants to hide their head like an ostrich.Ufos are craft that are made by humans posssesed by evil spirits using nichloas teslas techolgy.for you lost people who think I am crazy I have done 2 exorcisms by praying against demons in JESUS name, it is real I live in reality and the majority of humans are deceived.about UFOS they are not from space they are human made creations just like digital currencies.The Vril and Thule secret society are behind the creation of ufos to stage and bring in the appearnance of the Antichrist and they even state this if you buy the right books!!.Why do you think the us government is holding ufo technology secret , because they have a plan to deceive the world and get the world to acept the antichrist but they can not do it untill the rapture happens.

revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Yes satan has workers who are possesed they run the goverments and false curches. Jesus is GOD and he controls the timeline. The illuminatti has said pubically that they want to get the world to accept a one world monetary system as part of their global domination plan. Look into the alex jones videos on youtube, the illuminatti and the gays and devil worshippers who meet at the Bohemian grove in northern California for devil worship and gay orgies with male prostitutes have many plans to bring in the new world order and one of their plans is to have a CASHLESS SOCIETY to control and track the people and put the world under  taxation control.Look it up if you dont believe it is all there.This is somethign they have been working for since the 1980s!



Daniel 12:10

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.



Believeing in the devil has nothing to do with superstition just like believeing in air has nothing to do with susperstition, just becasue you are lost with the majority of the loosers on this earth does not mean reality has changed, just that you are weak and satans machine of possed humans is strong. Bitcoin is not bad it is just technology but everywhere you go to buy and sell bitcoin what do you find.Corporations. Groups of humans.And if those corporations are spys and thieves working for the illuminatti or the fbi like hitbtc.com and localbitcoins.com then even though bitcoin is good the way they control it is where the conspiracy is.The only hope for the free movement of bitcoin now is NON central exchanges.

Your stated is not bad.
But,why you just join to the community that you knew it is illuminati scam?
It is simple right?
I think you still beexpecting some remurenation.

I joined the community because I want to make money.If you have a sail boat and you feel a wind coming you know the boat will start moving fast with the wind.When you see the illuminatti or government is making digital money you know this is a big thing and it will take over the world.especially if you have studied and understand that they want to make a cashles society and this is exactly what is now coming.So you invest and I invested many years ago and now I do not work.This thing bitcoin is good it is not a scam but the structure like hitbtc and localbitcoins.com that is centralized, this is the problem for us but what THEY the enemies want.I lost over 300k to hitbtc.com and I want to expose that scam, hitbtc.com is a scam 100% !!!

With real non centralized exchanges it can be a good thing still.

I agree, yes. There is a lot of excitement here. Many broken fates, as in a casino. Therefore, there may be a connection. And it is not the brightest and the best.

That is by far the funniest accusation I have heard that is thrown to bitcoin. I know there's a secret group and there's ton of them but Illuminati is the most exaggerated and when people think of evil, they always think its because of the work of them.

Bitcoin is not Illuminati Scam.There are some people says that bitcoin is scam but i don't argue with them.For me,no one can stop me from using it and I will continue doing my work with bitcoin because bitcoin is Real and not a Scam.

To be honest, this situation may have some impact on the market just now, but I am afraid that later in the future soros will negatively affect ourselves, the members of big cryptocurrency joint.

Yeah, how they say bitcoin is a scam if we already use it ? And if we already have it ? Some people makes bitcoin as a scam, they use the word of "bitcoin" just to find their next victim in scam. All we have to do is to be wise before we invest our money, make sure that we invest in real bitcoin.

That was the good thing about bitcoin, wasn't it?

I think you should doubt everything you hear about Illuminati and consider its waht they want you to hear..

therefore, we should not store too much and too long bitcoin. we will never know what will happen. it would be wise if we immediately sell it when it is getting profit.

This came into controversy long back, that bitcoin as well virtual currencies were much related to the illuminati network. Same now has got termed to be a scam, and I too have a thinking that virtual currency too is influenced by illuminati network. As it is decentralized none is capable of predicting the truth behind the entire cryptocurrency.

In my personal view, bitcoin is definitely not an illuminati scam. You may heard from someone or others that they have been scam in bitcoin but it doesn't mean that bitcoin is a scam. The scam in that situation is the person behind the account that you have interact in bitcoin. It is not illuminati I guarantee you. Also, what you have stated above are the good qualities of bitcoin for me.

Why not? bitcoin is a developed currency which is used by a large number of people, it earns not only deceptions, good, successful and productive products called bitcoin.

please do us a favor and ask your friend why is it that illuminati is behind bitcoin? There is no single point of the ones you have raised that should point to illuminate, it's just ridiculous :D

I still won't stop investing and trade with bitcoins.Many people who change there life with the help of bitcoins.Instead of founding bitcoins's negative facts.We should read some advantage of bitcoins.I think bitcoin is not illuminati scam.

No It is not an Illuminati Scam. Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and worldwide payment system that is organize by people who wants to help others and not actually gaining on it. It is not a scam because if it is a scam then why is it still available today?

So far, there are so many rumors about bitcoin, we dont know exactly what it is like that, we also dont know "who satoshi nakamoto?"
But blockchian is a revolution in digital currencies.

I hope this is a joke lol.  But in all honesty every point you made has been discussed many times over and asking these questions makes it seem like you dont really know what bitcoin is about.  Bitcoin is not a company and it is not controlled by a central authority so it does not make money and no body is held liable if theres something wrong with bitcoin itself.  Bitcoin is just a currency, its you just choice if you want to buy it, no one is forcing you to do it.

It can be attributed that bitcoin supports the Illuminati, so there is a lot of opposition to all users, but we must realize that the bitcoin process to be accepted into a single currency is an excessive expectation and it seems difficult to happen.

I do not think so, it's just negative news from people who do not like bitcoin and want the missing bitcoin. I think bitcoin is the currency I can use as a tool for transactions, and also bitcoin can provide income to me.

So do you really want me to buy your 'newbie'title?this is not how the newbie delivers his wordings over cryptoworld..and youre friend seems to be a Good bitcoin follower because he has a good sets of negativity for bitcoin?a warm applause for you both.

Bitcoin has no care about your sentiments and same as we,if you had all that doubt about bitcoin then go away,we dont need you here

Your definitely right, I think relating the bitcoin to the illuminati is kind of ridiculous. Maybe they are both mystery, but it clearly state that the bitcoin is part of a cryptocurrency unlike the illuminati that no one knows what actually it is.

I think you have been reading to many conspiracy theories and books about the Illuminati and have not been able to compartmentalize the issues on ground and the so called theories. The bitcoin currency and system runs on a ledger... a program that registers every transaction and records every input intelligibly, cryptographically and chronologically. The internet going down will hurt more governments and economies more than the bitcoin revolution. Banks, Forex and the Military to mention but a few use and rely heavily on the internet.
If the internet,, were ever to be down more fear and fright would arise for security breach and incursion more than the loss of virtual currency which can be recovered upon diligent systematic operation.

Wake up Dude..... Besides most junior members don't speak like you just did. You sound more of a veteran than a fresher.

Many rich people are emerging from the income of cryptocurrency and they are mostly young men, and I already feel rich in my area with the results of the crypto trade.

what you have stated are true (most of them). However we never really know if Illuminati is behind BItcoin. if Bitcoin is an Illuminati scam, then how come there are a lot of People who still using Bitcoin and they are still earning from it. maybe it's just another black propaganda against Bitcoin. But I will for a strong evidence,until then, I will still continue my Bitcoin journey.

This is the most interesting thread I read here in this forum. I am fond of these kinds of conspiracy theories but I really don't believe them. But I assure you that bitcoin is really far from a "scam". Whether or not is controlled by any anonymous group, bitcoin industry helps people so there is no need for thinking that there is a hidden agenda in this innovation. Bitcoin aims to change the monetary system to be better and more practical.