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Title: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 08:20:30 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: radokan on December 21, 2017, 08:32:15 PM
It is crazy. I was just about to send 0.2btc and i have to pay more than 0.006 fee! This is outrageous! Almost 300k unconfirmed transactions and it's not getting any better


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 08:45:44 PM
It is crazy. I was just about to send 0.2btc and i have to pay more than 0.006 fee! This is outrageous! Almost 300k unconfirmed transactions and it's not getting any better

I would bet my left testicle that Ver is spamming the network like a madman to help his BCH crap increase in value.
Don't go on BCH, it's an old technology, it's just Bitcoin with an 8MB block, move onto real better technologies like IOTA or Byteball, don't make his game!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: xnpu on December 21, 2017, 08:50:02 PM
TV fundraisers with celebrities used to overload phone networks. Christmas shopping still overloads payment networks in some places.

That doesn't mean - and has never meant - that these systems were or are unusable. It just means that capacity couldn't meet temporary or increasingly high demand.

What you see with Bitcoin today is very similar: demand is growing and every time there is "news" or "panic" of some kind, demand peaks way beyond its capacity.

Meanwhile though, people ARE working to increase capacity of the bitcoin network. Over 10% of transactions now use SegWit, and this continues to rise. Other developments are underway as well.

Of course increasing capacity doesn't necessarily mean that it will keep up with demand. It's clearly not. Not yet anyway. But that doesn't make bitcoin "dead". For it to be dead, both users and developers need to give up completely.

I don't see that happening any time soon. While you, and others, may be growing impatient, the number of people interested in bitcoin is in fact increasing rapidly. It's very much alive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cynical on December 21, 2017, 08:52:50 PM
this is strange, last week i did two small transactions with bitcoin with small fees enough to register them as low priority and they went through in about 90 minutes.
I also have a transaction of about $16 to receive for 2 weeks now and it is still unconfirmed,
its low value so there is no point to add more fees to have it released.
this unpredictability in transaction fees is killing bitcoins usefullness.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 08:55:23 PM
2 hours, ZERO CONFIRMATIONS.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/896db98664cfeb280477b56383b9fbab6232fc21ca06902c44b89173d496f817/


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: BTCforJoe on December 21, 2017, 09:01:58 PM
Because you're having a bad experience with the chain, you're calling this coin dead? Feel free to send me your 4BTC then brah. I'll gladly take them off your hands.

As @xnpu mentioned above, there is a throttling that is happening right now, and it's due to people discovering Bitcoin for the first time, and undoubtedly some spamming going on by haters against BTC. Is it unfortunately that the network can be attacked and become vulnerable due to spam? Absolutely. Does that mean that Bitcoin is dead? Nope. That's just spreading fud, and it's only hurting the industry.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: qiwoman2 on December 21, 2017, 09:06:02 PM
IT isn't dead yet but I think now there are other factions with huge interests and a lot of money who are trying to bring other coins to prominence. Like the banks are supporting and buying hugely into RIPPLE. Then you got Jihan Wu and Chris Verge waging war on Bitcoin with Bitcoin cash because they wanna make more money and then you got the Business capital flowing into ETHEREUM AND NEO ICOS. So this si what is causing the pressure to kill Bitcoin and take it from being a first place BITCOIN into a secondary altcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 09:09:03 PM
Because you're having a bad experience with the chain, you're calling this coin dead? Feel free to send me your 4BTC then brah. I'll gladly take them off your hands.

As @xnpu mentioned above, there is a throttling that is happening right now, and it's due to people discovering Bitcoin for the first time, and undoubtedly some spamming going on by haters against BTC. Is it unfortunately that the network can be attacked and become vulnerable due to spam? Absolutely. Does that mean that Bitcoin is dead? Nope. That's just spreading fud, and it's only hurting the industry.

I'm not a "hater", at least read what I wrote.
It's just that this thing is ridiculous.
And for your information "the industry" includes better technologies around.
Oh and I'll exchange my BTC for other coins, this is sure. They serve no purpose at the moment, with a network like this and fees like this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: equator on December 21, 2017, 09:15:59 PM
I agree with OP that the developer and hardfork persons of BCH are creating all sorts of problem to bitcoins so that their coin can get more attention. But still i think BTC is right now in very bad shape.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: annbagira on December 21, 2017, 09:17:06 PM
Hello all! All new things have some problems! I am sure no matter about what we talk but if this is new in this World it's need pass a lot of changes and modernization. Hope this will be resolved soon how update bitcoin more adaptive for needs of potential mass users! Maybe it will dead it the future but not right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: coinycoiny on December 21, 2017, 09:17:52 PM
Don't forget you can buy a big mac next year with bitcoin?

Guess how much it will cost?



Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: aleksej996 on December 21, 2017, 09:26:33 PM
I'm not a "hater", at least read what I wrote.
It's just that this thing is ridiculous.
And for your information "the industry" includes better technologies around.
Oh and I'll exchange my BTC for other coins, this is sure. They serve no purpose at the moment, with a network like this and fees like this.

When did BTC serve any significant purpose anyway?
BTC is highly speculative and it's price is just people speculating that it will have huge purpose one day.
BTC price never reflected it's value in the moment, but the value it will have once adoption becomes big enough.
You can either wait to see how Segwit and LN will deal with this or panic and leave now.
It is your choice, each perfectly valid and no one can blame you for it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Ranger9202 on December 21, 2017, 09:31:29 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

This happened to me too. I send about 75$ of BTC an hour ago, and without even realizing it, it cost me 50$ of fees, im fu***ng furious  >:( >:( >:( worst part is, Exodus will tell you fees at the bottom of the transaction in small tiny letters. I mean common for Christ sake  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(...Miners must be sooo happy now!!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kleinkrypto on December 21, 2017, 09:36:08 PM
i have to quote myself from another BTC is dead blabla thread:

Right now i sent 1.0 BTC from my electrum wallet to binance exchange. It took 35 minutes and costs 40$... Its not the fastest and cheapest way, but its by far not that bad you all are telling



Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: -ck on December 21, 2017, 09:36:58 PM
Bitcoin has died 217 times

From BitcoinObituaries.com | Bitcoin Declared Dead 140+ Times and Counting
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 09:39:18 PM
i have to quote myself from another BTC is dead blabla thread:

Right now i sent 1.0 BTC from my electrum wallet to binance exchange. It took 35 minutes and costs 40$... Its not the fastest and cheapest way, but its by far not that bad you all are telling



I am not "telling", I gave you a link.
Click it and watch for yourself the evolution of that transaction, fees included.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
Bitcoin has died 217 times

From BitcoinObituaries.com | Bitcoin Declared Dead 140+ Times and Counting
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

I know this better than you, much probably.
And yet, I feel this is the right time, because all the other times anyone has written a Bitcoin obituary, it was for stupid reasons.
Here we have a network that is completely unusable = the technology is dead.
Switch to Byteball.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MIGHTYTH0TH on December 21, 2017, 10:00:34 PM
Fees are insane .... and the wait ...  :-[


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: saycryptohello on December 21, 2017, 10:08:44 PM
Use another faster coin for transactions, Litecoin, Ripple. Bitcoins, use more as an common asset. Today, there is a wide range of ways to get around expensive bitcoin commissions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: coinnumber on December 21, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
It is crazy for some to say Bitcoin is dead! When bitcoin is still the ruling coin and it has helped a lot of people just imagine someone having 1000 Bitcoin, is already ontop of the world  because he needs nothing just to keep investing and getting increasing every now and then with this alone bitcoin will never die so long investors, miner and traders are there bitcoin will keep circulating till infinity.  


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: coinnumber on December 21, 2017, 10:13:13 PM
Bitcoin will never die it will keep increasing except it's no longer acceptable in the world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bitart on December 21, 2017, 10:15:45 PM
i have to quote myself from another BTC is dead blabla thread:

Right now i sent 1.0 BTC from my electrum wallet to binance exchange. It took 35 minutes and costs 40$... Its not the fastest and cheapest way, but its by far not that bad you all are telling



I am not "telling", I gave you a link.
Click it and watch for yourself the evolution of that transaction, fees included.
I've checked your transaction. 611 sat/B is huge fee, but not enough, still...
According to fork.lol the average (!) tx fee is around 1000 sat/B:
https://i.imgur.com/j9q3LHD.jpg
That's unbelievable, I have't seen such high fee ever...
https://fork.lol/tx/fee (https://fork.lol/tx/fee)
I usually check the fees before sending out a transaction, but now I won't send any transaction, for sure.
There's no possible need for me that can justify to start a transaction with a kind of fee, I'll sit and wait to let the dust settle...
I'm sorry for your transaction, I have already tried to accelerate your previous 3.05 BTC tx but in vain, ViaBTC is full, everybody is pushing the button to accelerate the transactions...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Shint on December 21, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
You're just telling this because you don't like the fees that you are paying where in fact Bitcoin is ruling since from the starts and many altcoins are trying to copy what Bitcoin did in the past. I guess Lightning Network is your best choice left but it isn't available right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Kingofbitcoin12345 on December 21, 2017, 10:24:51 PM
Being upset on transaction delay and higher fee is understandable but just think about it,, what is happening behind  it?.. Does this really meant to be like this or someone is manipulating this delays for an obvious purposes.. We can’t deny that miners support forking many times.. I just leave it there and I don’t want to add more details about what I think is happening now.. I will not leave bitcoin just because of this and that’s for sure..


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: BitCoinKeeper on December 21, 2017, 10:27:41 PM
Bitcoin has died 217 times

From BitcoinObituaries.com | Bitcoin Declared Dead 140+ Times and Counting
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

I know this better than you, much probably.
And yet, I feel this is the right time, because all the other times anyone has written a Bitcoin obituary, it was for stupid reasons.
Here we have a network that is completely unusable = the technology is dead.
Switch to Byteball.

OP...I am so tired of of all the hate, and yes you are peddling hate. It is the holiday season and I’m quite sure there are millions of transactions just like yours out there have you ever considered the fact that the reason for the absorbantly high fee is due to people spending 0.00032 bitcoin at Walmart, and that the system is simply overloaded with hundreds of thousands of newbs, and with hundreds of thousands of newbs spending small amounts for a soda, are what has run up the cost of sending coin. Perhaps this is just a way for your vendor to slow the pace of transactions. Bitcoin is not dead, however newbs think bitcoin and their new wallets are like atm machines.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 10:34:21 PM
      Bitcoin is not dead. It will become dead if nobody use it,patronized it and continue to earn on it. Just look bitcoin price still high even it drop down. And the value of bitcoin is different from other cryptocurrency,it will not end in just one click.The higher fees and low transaction now is just a cause of hollidays. Most of the people are in rush even in selling their bitcoin that really affect the bitcoin market but i think there is no reason to worry about.

Yes, with "Bitcoin is dead" I mean that if it keeps up with these fees and times and inefficiency, it will be abandoned because there's better stuff around.
Hope now it's clear.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 10:35:07 PM
Use another faster coin for transactions, Litecoin, Ripple. Bitcoins, use more as an common asset. Today, there is a wide range of ways to get around expensive bitcoin commissions.

I had to take these BTC from my wallet, they were not on an exchange. You can be sure I won't ever use Bitcoin to take money from an exchange.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 10:36:56 PM
i have to quote myself from another BTC is dead blabla thread:

Right now i sent 1.0 BTC from my electrum wallet to binance exchange. It took 35 minutes and costs 40$... Its not the fastest and cheapest way, but its by far not that bad you all are telling



I am not "telling", I gave you a link.
Click it and watch for yourself the evolution of that transaction, fees included.
I've checked your transaction. 611 sat/B is huge fee, but not enough, still...
According to fork.lol the average (!) tx fee is around 1000 sat/B:
https://i.imgur.com/j9q3LHD.jpg
That's unbelievable, I have't seen such high fee ever...
https://fork.lol/tx/fee (https://fork.lol/tx/fee)
I usually check the fees before sending out a transaction, but now I won't send any transaction, for sure.
There's no possible need for me that can justify to start a transaction with a kind of fee, I'll sit and wait to let the dust settle...
I'm sorry for your transaction, I have already tried to accelerate your previous 3.05 BTC tx but in vain, ViaBTC is full, everybody is pushing the button to accelerate the transactions...

LOL I tried also to raise the fee of my second transaction, and the Bitcoin Core Wallet popped a window saying that the fee cannot be raised.
The network is simply blocked.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 10:37:41 PM
Being upset on transaction delay and higher fee is understandable but just think about it,, what is happening b hind it?.. Does this really meant to be like this or someone is manipulating this delays for an obvious purposes.. We can’t deny that miners support forking many times.. I just leave it there and I don’t want to add more details about what I think is happening now.. I will not leave bitcoin just because of this and that’s for sure..

I suspect the team behind BCH is spamming the BTC network.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Diggity94 on December 21, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
Bitcoin fees are ridiculous, but BTC is not going anywhere but up in price over next few years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 21, 2017, 10:40:00 PM
Bitcoin has died 217 times

From BitcoinObituaries.com | Bitcoin Declared Dead 140+ Times and Counting
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

I know this better than you, much probably.
And yet, I feel this is the right time, because all the other times anyone has written a Bitcoin obituary, it was for stupid reasons.
Here we have a network that is completely unusable = the technology is dead.
Switch to Byteball.

OP...I am so tired of of all the hate, and yes you are peddling hate. It is the holiday season and I’m quite sure there are millions of transactions just like yours out there have you ever considered the fact that the reason for the absorbantly high fee is due to people spending 0.00032 bitcoin at Walmart, and that the system is simply overloaded with hundreds of thousands of newbs, and with hundreds of thousands of newbs spending small amounts for a soda, are what has run up the cost of sending coin. Perhaps this is just a way for your vendor to slow the pace of transactions. Bitcoin is not dead, however newbs think bitcoin and their new wallets are like atm machines.

You don't know what you are talking about. People are not spending 0.00032 BTC because they should pay 0.002 BTC in fees.
And I'm not exactly a newbie, here you can see some of my articles: https://cointelegraph.com/authors/marco-e-g-maltese
Bye.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: fenican on December 21, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
Average transaction fee right now is $40. That makes it untenable for any purchases below about $2,000. Imagine how bad this is going to get at BTC $100k and BTC $1M. You'll be looking at $4000 in fees just to do a transaction!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 21, 2017, 10:46:35 PM
Pushing people to support byteball? Bitcoin isn't dead and will never be dead, confirmations are taking so long because people are still buying it and there's a big demand on it so there's no doubt that bitcoin is still kicking and alive. The fact about bitcoin as a way to transfer payments and we are all inconveniently accepting these high fees and it's everyone's problem that we've been dealing with it. But wait for it, lightning network will settle everything and bitcoin will be great again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Sukut on December 21, 2017, 10:48:29 PM
They gotta find a solution or 2018 will be the year that we watch the rise of the faster coins with lower fees.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: BossMacko on December 21, 2017, 11:48:09 PM
Having high fee and not getting any confirmation within 2 hours are not a reason for me to call Bitcoin dead. Few months ago i had a transaction that took 72hours before it reflects to my account, i panic of course but from that time i learned that as long as your transaction is already in the blockchain just waiting for confirmation that is good already and i just have to wait til it reflects to my account.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: pushkarmore on December 21, 2017, 11:48:45 PM
Of course, the increasing capacity cannot meet up with the demand but that does not mean bitcoin is dead. For making the bitcoin dead each and every participant, developers, promoters and It's total community support has to die and then bitcoin will be dead for sure. I can understand that is some lack of development present over there, but I hope for the best and I expect that there will be some improvement soon seen here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 22, 2017, 03:48:04 AM
Pushing people to support byteball? Bitcoin isn't dead and will never be dead, confirmations are taking so long because people are still buying it and there's a big demand on it so there's no doubt that bitcoin is still kicking and alive. The fact about bitcoin as a way to transfer payments and we are all inconveniently accepting these high fees and it's everyone's problem that we've been dealing with it. But wait for it, lightning network will settle everything and bitcoin will be great again.

"Never"... that word should NEVER be used.
Byteball is a RADICALLY different algorithm that solves the problem of scalability at the base.
Sure, it needs extensive testing, but it deserves to be tested.
Bitcoin on the other hand has reached AGAIN a complete congestion time, and its network is probably under spam attack.
This exposes an intolerable weakness.
And if you know how the LN works, you understand that it won't be the final solution either.
In case you don't know how the LN works, here's an interesting article: https://medium.com/@homakov/why-lightning-and-raiden-networks-will-not-work-d1880e4bc294
And no I am not "pushing" for Byteball, I have invested on around 30 altcoins, and IOTA uses a similar Network Algorithm.
I am not here to make advertising, just saying mine after showing that there's something wrong going on in Bitcoin, and believe me, I'm really sorry for this, but it seems it took too long to Bitcoin to change and update its protocol, and it's making the end of Netscape: didn't keep up with competition and evolution of the technology.
Oh, and the price is tanking and my 4 BTC are stuck in shit and I can't exchange them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 22, 2017, 05:33:02 AM
Pushing people to support byteball? Bitcoin isn't dead and will never be dead, confirmations are taking so long because people are still buying it and there's a big demand on it so there's no doubt that bitcoin is still kicking and alive. The fact about bitcoin as a way to transfer payments and we are all inconveniently accepting these high fees and it's everyone's problem that we've been dealing with it. But wait for it, lightning network will settle everything and bitcoin will be great again.

"Never"... that word should NEVER be used.
Byteball is a RADICALLY different algorithm that solves the problem of scalability at the base.
Sure, it needs extensive testing, but it deserves to be tested.
Bitcoin on the other hand has reached AGAIN a complete congestion time, and its network is probably under spam attack.
This exposes an intolerable weakness.
And if you know how the LN works, you understand that it won't be the final solution either.
In case you don't know how the LN works, here's an interesting article: https://medium.com/@homakov/why-lightning-and-raiden-networks-will-not-work-d1880e4bc294
And no I am not "pushing" for Byteball, I have invested on around 30 altcoins, and IOTA uses a similar Network Algorithm.
I am not here to make advertising, just saying mine after showing that there's something wrong going on in Bitcoin, and believe me, I'm really sorry for this, but it seems it took too long to Bitcoin to change and update its protocol, and it's making the end of Netscape: didn't keep up with competition and evolution of the technology.
Oh, and the price is tanking and my 4 BTC are stuck in shit and I can't exchange them.
Why shouldn't I use the word never? I'm a bitcoin believer and there's nothing wrong for me to say that thing. And you can also use that with byteball. I have nothing against byteball and I have witnessed it great gains for the whole time. Every coin that will experience congestion means that they are crowded and look on how ETH is experiencing that thing too and it can possibly happen to other alts too. Every time there are problems that are existing and there's a solution coming up for it, that may not be the final solution but always there will be.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: inturist on December 22, 2017, 05:39:59 AM
Yeah, sell Bitcoin, sell all bitcoins that you have. Smart guys will buy it from you  ;)
Panic is needed so that people start selling bitcoin and whales have bought it a cheaper price.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Huskerz1 on December 22, 2017, 05:45:54 AM
Use another faster coin for transactions, Litecoin, Ripple. Bitcoins, use more as an common asset. Today, there is a wide range of ways to get around expensive bitcoin commissions.

LTC, in my opinion is the go to coin for everyone. Especially at it's current price point.  Faster, cheaper transactions, dependable old coin from an honest founder.  I think soon it'll triple in value.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Coyoteerex09 on December 22, 2017, 05:47:37 AM
Bitcoin is not yet dead. Though its price, transaction fees and processing time is something that has been bothering me. I still believe that bitcoin will last at least 5 years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: redsuncrypto on December 22, 2017, 06:16:47 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
if you don't believe BTC anymore and want to buy or give your 4BTC left, I'll take it right now


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: akram143 on December 22, 2017, 06:24:35 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

Everyone facing the same problem but I think the problem will be resolved after the hard fork,so don't panic and sell your bitcoins.If you have money then buy more bitcoins because the price is cheaper now and it will bump soon after that fork which will happen on Dec 28.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 22, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

Everyone facing the same problem but I think the problem will be resolved after the hard fork,so don't panic and sell your bitcoins.If you have money then buy more bitcoins because the price is cheaper now and it will bump soon after that fork which will happen on Dec 28.

Which hard fork?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GODLIKE on December 22, 2017, 11:07:22 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
if you don't believe BTC anymore and want to buy or give your 4BTC left, I'll take it right now

OK then, if you believe in it so much, I'll give you 2 BTC for 15000 dollars. They are at a global average of 14000 dollars at the moment.
But you trust Bitcoin so much, it shouldn't be a problem, right? It will go up, so...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: SneakyRik on December 22, 2017, 11:07:58 AM
I don't get it, is Bitcoin planning to do another fork? Haven't read it anywhere as I tried searching.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: melamiras on December 22, 2017, 11:08:32 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

The greed of the miners and their ability to manipulate means two thing for me: This coin is no longer decentralised and therefore is not secure. Second, the miners do not believe themselves in Bitcoin long term, as they are killing it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Marco Ambrusini on December 22, 2017, 11:15:21 AM
Despite the unacceptable high transactions fees we cant just conclude that bitcoin is dead.Bitcoin is just gathering momentum to rise up.As at today(friday) several altcoins have also dipped drastically.After correction btc will bounce back .Keep calm and hold your bitcoins


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: renlarino on December 22, 2017, 11:18:24 AM
this is insane. our profit will go into fees for any transactions. hope to see corrections the soonest.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Pleione527 on December 22, 2017, 11:20:49 AM
Bitcoin value today really sucks as much as I would like to believe it will recover soon seeing how it crash breaks my heart and starting to take away my hopes. We've been experiencing drop in bitcoin value before but not this far from almost $19000 it drops to $13000. I am now starting to believe bitcoin will die. So bad that I didn't convert my bitcoin when the price is good and now I don't have any choice but to hold and keep waiting for a miracle to happen


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Blueblade on December 22, 2017, 11:51:39 AM
No never bitcoin is not dead .Today the value of bit coin is very low.I think the bit coin value will not go below 10000 $.This is not the time to sell the Bit coin.Bit coin value does not fall apart a little bit. If the Bit coin is retained then the value can be sold when it rises.In the next week, its growth will come back to the old state.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: gabbie2010 on December 22, 2017, 11:53:34 AM
This drop in the price of bitcoin could be attributed to massive dump as Christmas approaches a lot of sellers and panicked seller had joined the train, but the major problem now is scalability of bitcoin this is one of the major problem of blockchain technology presently there many unconfirmed transactions in the network which prompted higher fees I think it's high time this problem is solved else bitcoin will died as mentioned by the OP.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: squidiot438 on December 22, 2017, 11:54:16 AM
If you are referring to this correction, it doesn't indicate the death of Bitcoin. I'd like to address the ever-increasing pending transactions though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: romec1701 on December 22, 2017, 11:55:14 AM
Fees are quite insane at the moment. But this is down to greedy miners and inexperienced users. SW and LN will make things better but also when miners realise that the value of their BT holdings will tank if they don't reduce their mining profit margins they will do something to help lower fees.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: keithieY5 on December 22, 2017, 12:00:50 PM
fee is repeated but not big problem last Monday i send 160$ using 10$ fee and it confirmed less than 3 hours.

just wait more will back normal


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: SneakyRik on December 22, 2017, 12:02:17 PM
If you are referring to this correction, it doesn't indicate the death of Bitcoin. I'd like to address the ever-increasing pending transactions though.

I just checked and man, it is unbelievable. I wonder if people would wait for a week just to get their transactions confirmed. That would really suck and make Bitcoin look bad.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: uelque on December 22, 2017, 12:09:51 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

No it isn't, I believe not everyone suffers the way you do transactions. And also it is not a proper basis to say that we've gone too far and bitcoin today is already dead. I knew your pissed off because of what happened to you and to your profit, but please don't spread such words. Though I'm not familiar to void, maybe there are some issues in void which turns transactions not to be completed as faster as before, so just learn to have more patience, maybe that is what is needed!  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: randal9 on December 22, 2017, 12:27:20 PM
Yeah, sell Bitcoin, sell all bitcoins that you have. Smart guys will buy it from you  ;)
Panic is needed so that people start selling bitcoin and whales have bought it a cheaper price.  ;D ;D ;D
oh yeah, you are right so much...but if everyone will understand this and think so, then noone can earn)))


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: palle11 on December 22, 2017, 12:43:47 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

I so much feel your aspersions as to the fees and it is really worth casting on. I remember I also have to wait for an additional week so as to transfer more bitcoin to an exchange because of the fees. The delays too are another aspect.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Yanisumin on December 22, 2017, 12:50:57 PM
Because you're having a bad experience with the chain, you're calling this coin dead? Feel free to send me your 4BTC then brah. I'll gladly take them off your hands.

As @xnpu mentioned above, there is a throttling that is happening right now, and it's due to people discovering Bitcoin for the first time, and undoubtedly some spamming going on by haters against BTC. Is it unfortunately that the network can be attacked and become vulnerable due to spam? Absolutely. Does that mean that Bitcoin is dead? Nope. That's just spreading fud, and it's only hurting the industry.

Im heard about this thing. There are people who are sending BTC accidentally with low transactions in order for the network to be congested.
But that is not the problem, what they are mumbling about is that BTC must improve its transactions speed and lower its fees or else BTC will or not an efficient form of payment. We can tell as for this moment that the developers have nothing or can't do a thing right now and that's why some people are turning into the alternatives.
At the opening I feel you sometimes because I've been holding some BTC too and what is happening right now is really unhealthy both for time and wallet.

But still we have some hope left, ever heard of the lighting network that is currently under development?
If they succeed on making that, then Im seeing BTC at a million dollar.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: chickenfried12 on December 22, 2017, 01:19:52 PM
Of course, nobody wants it to be this way, but unfortunately the high volumes are high sums.And the market conditions Unfortunately this is going to be the only thing we are going to do is to stop supporting a bit, but I do not know what will happen anymore, but if you go this Bitcoin will really die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: nipponbit on December 22, 2017, 01:41:00 PM
The price of crypto should be related with the level of trust to it, I think.

The BTC is most trusted cryptocurrency now. The technical details are in the background.

People don't like to think much about technical details. Until some really big troubles, like money lost, will happen because of this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: dewi91 on December 22, 2017, 02:05:47 PM
we all are here in the same problem, but I don't think bitcoin will die just because transaction fees are very high.. if you want to sell your bitcoin, that's your chooice. I think there is still hope that transaction fees will go down again..


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: RobertoMakeli on December 22, 2017, 02:08:43 PM
how can BTC die???? hundred billion $ invest in BTC whole world, what make you think that???


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mOgliE on December 22, 2017, 02:15:05 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but isn't the "wait and see" strategy a good solution?

These fees are indeed completely incredible but it may change.. Especially is everyone stops making money transfer as long as they are that high...

Regarding your alternative.. I'm sorry to say that but it cannot be a solution. The problem will be the same in a while..


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: s0beit on December 22, 2017, 02:17:38 PM
I've been through worst, I had a transaction a month ago and it took almost a week before I got my bitcoin from another wallet. Well, developers and miners should do something about it since bitcoin transaction fee is getting more expensive and yet a lot of transactions are delayed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: lucid_guy on December 22, 2017, 02:26:00 PM
###################### WARNING ABOUT CRYPTOS ########################
The 2008 financial crisis caused 500,000 CANCER DEATHS!!!
  (If any doubt, just do your own research).

        9/11 WAS ### A JOKE ### IN COMPARISON

Who is mainly RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS CRIME? #### BANKERS ####
Have they been to JAIL? #### NO ####
WHY? JUST THINK.

##### NEVER FORGET THESE INNOCENT 500,000 VICTIMS WHO SUFFERED BEFORE DYING ##### (LIKE SHOAH)

Now, bankers & central banks are afraid to lose their jobs because of cryptos,
so they try to scare governments about:

1) their FIAT currency
2) losing control and power
3) losing taxes revenues

What they currently do is create ARTIFICIAL HUGE VOLATILITY on cryptos (they have enough funds for that).
They want an EXCUSE to "protect" investors.

In reality, they just want to take CONTROL (REGULATIONS OR BAN)

They also SCARE PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIAS, PRESS, OR TV (CNBC for instance).

DO NOT LET THEM F#CK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ONCE MORE.

WE DON'T NEED ALL THESE MOTHERF#CKERS ANYMORE.

===> ACCEPT CRYPTO PAYMENTS FOR ANYTHING INSTEAD OF FIAT. BUY MORE CRYPTOS. <===

NOW YOU KNOW. PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. THANKS


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Sniper150 on December 22, 2017, 02:51:40 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

I think these happen because of bitcoin hard fork. I have read that there are many hard fork on this month of December. Don't you worry because bitcoin is not dead, bitcoin is still alive and no other currency can replace it because it is very strong cryptocurrency compare to other cryptos.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: squall1066 on December 22, 2017, 03:08:36 PM
I have sat through at least 208 "bitcoin is dead" its just funny to me now, are we on 217 or 218 now?

at most I would say bitcoin is in bad shape and is in need of a way to recover its speed, I have about 8 transactions that have anywhere from a week to a month of no conformations (and yes I have paid fee) and fed up of the crap alts tied onto the true coin (IMO) I am happy buying up some every time price is low.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: chuckblocker on December 22, 2017, 03:15:20 PM

pending
$244.89
?
Pending:0/3confirmations
Value when Sent
:
$373.35

will get 100$ out at this rate, so bad


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Best Dreams on December 22, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
Pushing people to support byteball? Bitcoin isn't dead and will never be dead, confirmations are taking so long because people are still buying it and there's a big demand on it so there's no doubt that bitcoin is still kicking and alive. The fact about bitcoin as a way to transfer payments and we are all inconveniently accepting these high fees and it's everyone's problem that we've been dealing with it. But wait for it, lightning network will settle everything and bitcoin will be great again.

"Never"... that word should NEVER be used.
Byteball is a RADICALLY different algorithm that solves the problem of scalability at the base.
Sure, it needs extensive testing, but it deserves to be tested.
Bitcoin on the other hand has reached AGAIN a complete congestion time, and its network is probably under spam attack.
This exposes an intolerable weakness.
And if you know how the LN works, you understand that it won't be the final solution either.
In case you don't know how the LN works, here's an interesting article: https://medium.com/@homakov/why-lightning-and-raiden-networks-will-not-work-d1880e4bc294
And no I am not "pushing" for Byteball, I have invested on around 30 altcoins, and IOTA uses a similar Network Algorithm.
I am not here to make advertising, just saying mine after showing that there's something wrong going on in Bitcoin, and believe me, I'm really sorry for this, but it seems it took too long to Bitcoin to change and update its protocol, and it's making the end of Netscape: didn't keep up with competition and evolution of the technology.
Oh, and the price is tanking and my 4 BTC are stuck in shit and I can't exchange them.
Why shouldn't I use the word never? I'm a bitcoin believer and there's nothing wrong for me to say that thing. And you can also use that with byteball. I have nothing against byteball and I have witnessed it great gains for the whole time. Every coin that will experience congestion means that they are crowded and look on how ETH is experiencing that thing too and it can possibly happen to other alts too. Every time there are problems that are existing and there's a solution coming up for it, that may not be the final solution but always there will be.
If someone dead then its mean he is dead because dead has no roll left in world and bitcoin is still alive and its playing a very big role in countries day by day its users are going to increased and today I check the price of bitcoin its price is very high so its totally wrong information about bitcoin is one of the fast growing currency in market and in next year bitcoin will be accepted by some countries because world need bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: jilsaya on December 22, 2017, 03:34:08 PM
And there we go again. All the people that bought the ath are freaking out and the media is labeling this as a 'black friday'. Has anyone had a look at the charts and zoomed out a bit? All coins are still way above the USD value they had a month ago, some even are still double. I was waiting for a correction so I could fill my bags a bit. So yeah, I'd be fine if it dumped a bit more even  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bambazamba on December 22, 2017, 03:35:59 PM
No doubt that transaction fees is such a mess right now . My bitcoin are also trapped in my wallet because i simply cannot sell them using that shitty transaction fees. Just waiting for the things to get better . I hope it does . The forks have been in talk for a long long time now , I don't know when something is actually going to save bitcoin from turning into a complete mess and proving all the opportunities right .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: EMINeMxShOw on December 22, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Well That's great I can see BTC between 9K to 10K which is healthy start for 2018!
and it's great that all these issues were here as for now So developers know better d next steps to do therefore making BTC always the best and 4ever!
Actually it's the best times to buy NOW!!

And it's not dead BUT it's just the START ;) 8)
Remember my words  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: nmax21 on December 22, 2017, 03:43:49 PM
Bitcoin will not die! The problems with processing transactions and high duties will not be compared with the profit that bitkoin and other altcoins give.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: 73blazer on December 22, 2017, 03:45:40 PM
It certainly can never be taken seriously with the current fees and wait times even when you pay a decent fee.
But that doesn't mean it's dead. It does mean core better gets off it's a$$ and do something meaningful.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: KevinHD on December 22, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
As far as I know there's a trading company that have been hacked which affected a lot of bitcoin volume. Bitcoin is not yet dead, you knew it. It is unstable. Yet, there's still a huge possibility that it will be back next year kicking the market again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Sevarchik on December 22, 2017, 03:58:34 PM
bitcoin core knows about network scalability at summer, and nothing to do for the moment.
Yes he win segwit2x by supporting community, but it cant be continuing ever. If he nothing to do something big btc can be die


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: coinoberg on December 22, 2017, 04:20:08 PM
As far as I know there's a trading company that have been hacked which affected a lot of bitcoin volume. Bitcoin is not yet dead, you knew it. It is unstable. Yet, there's still a huge possibility that it will be back next year kicking the market again.

The main reason for today's drop was some billionaires tricked us (retail traders) by making us to think that is time to sell. Most probably they are accumulating their bitcoins now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cosmoo on December 22, 2017, 04:23:34 PM
Bitcoin is the cryptocurrency that you need to hold. Not to work with it, that's my point of view. Working with Ehereum is much better :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ritot on December 22, 2017, 04:28:06 PM
As far as I know there's a trading company that have been hacked which affected a lot of bitcoin volume. Bitcoin is not yet dead, you knew it. It is unstable. Yet, there's still a huge possibility that it will be back next year kicking the market again.

The main reason for today's drop was some billionaires tricked us (retail traders) by making us to think that is time to sell. Most probably they are accumulating their bitcoins now.
In any case, we will always be deceived. Because we are not billionaires. With this fight is useless, just adjusting.
 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: lucas.zimmer on December 22, 2017, 04:31:25 PM
As far as I know there's a trading company that have been hacked which affected a lot of bitcoin volume. Bitcoin is not yet dead, you knew it. It is unstable. Yet, there's still a huge possibility that it will be back next year kicking the market again.

The main reason for today's drop was some billionaires tricked us (retail traders) by making us to think that is time to sell. Most probably they are accumulating their bitcoins now.
In any case, we will always be deceived. Because we are not billionaires. With this fight is useless, just adjusting.
 


Unfortunately you are right, they will always trick us and they will always play with our fear and greed which all the markets consist of. Only think we can do is to have a better risk management so we don't die even if we get some harm. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: blitz18 on December 22, 2017, 04:34:59 PM
The bitcoin price it reaches all time high when that happen there is always a correction to dump the value. In this situation most sell their hodlings or maybe into altcoins to take profit. It aways happen like this pump and dump, but it not dead. Price is will go to go up soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Sub1 on December 22, 2017, 04:45:45 PM
 I agree, wholeheartedly with Josh Rotman. His answer to this Quora question appears near this one. He also wrote this article: Bitcoin Price is taking a 30% dive, I wouldn't be worried for the long run. I wrote a similar article on the temporary d.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: 777asianinvasian on December 22, 2017, 05:21:31 PM
No. Bitcoin stay for a thousand years

Man I hope so that would be freaking awesome. But I did read now that the mempool is getting smaller which means unconfirmed transactions should be a lot less and those transactions should have gone through now or soon. That said though I agree the fees are getting ridiculous and now I trade much less than before due to this, something does need to be done. https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: btcmayumana on December 22, 2017, 08:07:17 PM
How this is frustrated when price going to fall, there is nothing we can do either selling Btc or convert altcoin to Btc.
I have got same problem, sending Eth from MEW to exchanges has been takes 2 days, but still not received.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
For now only https://pushtx.btc.com it's still working i guess, since this is connect to mempool.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: lemonpc on December 22, 2017, 08:10:13 PM
bitcoin will live on, if you're not patient you might consider giving up coffee


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kiemnhieutien on December 22, 2017, 08:14:08 PM
Bitcoin never die. It is the king, king never die. If it die, all altcoin will die. remember this. Maybe it will be no more hot, because it's old now, its tech is old. others coins can be more good. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Wipro on December 22, 2017, 08:17:48 PM
Bitcoin is the cryptocurrency that you need to hold. Not to work with it, that's my point of view. Working with Ehereum is much better :D

Among the all trollers of bitcoin here in the forum. I can see most of the people supporting bitcoin users and bitcoin in the price aspects and other financial vise versa. Understand that there will reason when the time we find the dump or bump. I am not sure all the people in the forum or the continuous news worms about bitcoin and blockchain implementation related news. That will help to know that whether it is a perfect bump or dump. You need loose fund like changing worst coins and in the name of transaction fees and all. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Vanilla-swap on December 22, 2017, 08:21:52 PM
REMEMBER

IN THIS CRASH

No more COINS ARE BEEN CREATED

ONLY FIAT MONEY


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Dreamr on December 22, 2017, 08:24:09 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
Sorry to hear your bad experience about bitcoin. Bitcoin higher transaction fee and very slow transaction speed are the only reasons why bitcoin will die. Too bad for us as we are going to see the end of our precious bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Skieleton on December 22, 2017, 08:25:51 PM
Bitcoin is the cryptocurrency that you need to hold. Not to work with it, that's my point of view. Working with Ehereum is much better :D

BTC has always been unstable. This will not change. Most of the savings I hold are just ETH. I only regret that I did not exchange for btc in August when the price was 1600 $ ...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Rath_ on December 22, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
Oh please, don't call Bitcoin dead because we didn't make it to solve the scalability problem in time. Bitcoin developers still haven't introduced full support for SegWit transactions. I wouldn't be surprised if Lightning Network went live before the next update of Bitcoin Core which is scheduled somewhere around May. Bitcoin has a great potential and we can't get rid of it, not yet. If we declared our defeat, banks would be content and become confident of themselves.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Coyoteerex09 on December 24, 2017, 02:36:23 AM
The upcoming network revamp could fix the problems right now in bitcoin. I just hope that it will be implemented immediately, so that everyone of us can benefit from it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: marcbitcoins on December 24, 2017, 02:42:23 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

If it will become dead then it will rise up again from the grave of blockchain. Bitcoin and other altcoins are rising up now and we must used to it that there are sometimes that there are always a manipulation attempt to destroy bitcoin and other digital currencies because of conflict to their businesses. This corrections are another failed attempt they are wasting their money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ceyceyki on December 24, 2017, 02:46:48 AM
I dont understand why after corrections people start to say 'Bitcoin is dead'? Because of fee? If it goes up too much that is normal! Bitcoin has problems and everybody knows that. Thats why they do forks. Bitcoin is gold of cryptocurriencies. Just hold it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Nerman on December 24, 2017, 03:08:20 AM
I dont understand why after corrections people start to say 'Bitcoin is dead'? Because of fee? If it goes up too much that is normal! Bitcoin has problems and everybody knows that. Thats why they do forks. Bitcoin is gold of cryptocurriencies. Just hold it.

The OP has some valid points fees and transaction latency are  killing Bitcoin. With that high of a fee they will switch to another alt that is faster and cheaper. To be honest now I do not use Bitcoin for transaction because it is really expensive.

Right now blockchain can't keep up with the transaction and if we do not see any permanent solution people will get tired of Bitcoin and move to another coin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: buternasek on December 24, 2017, 03:25:32 AM
Come on dev do not make us cry  :'( at least give us a little spirit. Almost all altcoin are affected, all altcoin prices dropped. Just pray, hopefully tomorrow or the day after tomorrow or maybe bitcoin is still waiting for the new year to rise again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: TeLlMeFrY on December 24, 2017, 03:32:10 AM
Probably most of the people who are investing right now is because they want to get riches pretty fast. They heard by their friends or on the news that bitcoin is a great investment and so they decided to bet their savings in bitcoin. However, most of them don´t know how the currency works. And it´s a big problem, because when these people get to know the problems that you mentioned, it could be end up being a bubble.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: imstillthebest on December 24, 2017, 03:33:38 AM
I dont understand why after corrections people start to say 'Bitcoin is dead'? Because of fee? If it goes up too much that is normal! Bitcoin has problems and everybody knows that. Thats why they do forks. Bitcoin is gold of cryptocurriencies. Just hold it.

because some people (including op) thinks that bitcoin wont recover anymore but of course it woudnt happen because bitcoin has been proven and tested to recover and will then increase again to reach his new all time high after the correction has subsided. high fees and slower transactions are infact pretty normal and many people including me are already get used to it because its not new to see and experience that kind of problem. these problems occur because bitcoin price is too high but for sure it will be back to normal if bitcoins value will become stable at an average price range.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cpfreeplz on December 24, 2017, 03:35:51 AM
It is crazy. I was just about to send 0.2btc and i have to pay more than 0.006 fee! This is outrageous! Almost 300k unconfirmed transactions and it's not getting any better

I would bet my left testicle that Ver is spamming the network like a madman to help his BCH crap increase in value.
Don't go on BCH, it's an old technology, it's just Bitcoin with an 8MB block, move onto real better technologies like IOTA or Byteball, don't make his game!

Oh no. This is the problem, people are now moving to utter shitcoins expecting them to go to the moon because bitcoin fees are out of this world. I think that's the whole idea with every shitcoin. Did you think maybe there's a hell of a lot of incentive for all of these shitcoins to spam?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: zenrol28 on December 24, 2017, 03:44:30 AM
Bitcoin died many times but it keeps on rising. Now we are seeing bitcoin's another dying moment. This time even those who believed in bitcoin for so long are being tested. Are we going to lose faith? We already put our faith in bitcoin so better keep it and let's see this through.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MMA on December 25, 2017, 09:16:58 PM
Bitcoin died many times but it keeps on rising. Now we are seeing bitcoin's another dying moment. This time even those who believed in bitcoin for so long are being tested. Are we going to lose faith? We already put our faith in bitcoin so better keep it and let's see this through.
It is a good time for whales. They will buy with low price and will entertain in future with high price. Non-professionals have started selling bitcoin due to panic but they don’t know that suddenly the price will go up again as we have seen in past. Up and down is a natural process of market regarding goods so why we take it much serious to shut down our business completely. I suggest that it is good to buy bitcoin with low price because bitcoin is not going to die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: criptoman83 on December 25, 2017, 10:09:09 PM
Sadly to hear that. I even don't try to make any transactions last 2 weeks. If i need $, i just change BTC to ltc or ripple on Bittrex and then change them on local exchanger. I have some BTC on blockchain.info wallet, but i decided to keep them there till better times. sending them now - it is crazy.  ???


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: FrictionlessCoin on December 25, 2017, 10:35:32 PM
Sincerely, I lost confidence in this crypto currency, it's good I've finished believing, I do not think it will reach the peaks, precisely because of these costs that rot our lives, the bitcoin goes give way to the other alt corners, I think we are heading straight for the free fall


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Trimzi on December 25, 2017, 10:36:14 PM
Bitcoin is using old technology and if that don't changes soon it might be a hard fall for BTC.
But at the same time devs are under the pressure because of many forks.
People don't like hiccups in transactions, don't like changes, well they something need to change.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: JCLee on December 25, 2017, 10:52:45 PM
After reading your post I found really Bitcoin are gradually lost his position in cryptocurrency. The premium between the transactions is very high, while as normal BTC fee is usually very cheap. This would explain the future of the Bitcoin apparently will be replaced by the other Altcoin crypto, typically the Ethereum. I still hope the Ethereum will replace the Bitcoin when Bitcoin dead. I still invest a lot of Ethereum to make the profit in 2018 because I believe 2018 is the year of Ethereum.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: keycellko on December 25, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
I can't say its dead. Many people are still using bitcoin but the number of people getting dissapointed over bitcoin fees and unconfirmed transactions are increasing. The developers must do something to amend these current situation or the investors will find their way out of this mess and out of bitcoin as well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kotajikikox on December 25, 2017, 11:05:15 PM
It is crazy. I was just about to send 0.2btc and i have to pay more than 0.006 fee! This is outrageous! Almost 300k unconfirmed transactions and it's not getting any better

i agree with you have an slow transaction in last few day because i think due multiful transaction people converting the bitcoin into fiat need to spend for the holidays. an are not high is fait transaction fee, i don't know bitcoin dead i think he want to destruct people get out to invest in bitcoin and promote another coins to replace bitcoin as number one coin in the crypto market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Javathon on December 25, 2017, 11:18:00 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

I hope this problem would end. Many people are affected because of the slow network, it is not good for bitcoin and the users. But bitcoin is not dead and it will never happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: sasaku bitbit on December 25, 2017, 11:33:59 PM
I wouldn't believe if bitcoin will die, it is a statement that is painful for all users. I'm sure this is just the thing that has become commonplace for him if there is bitcoin bitcoin will is weak as hell but after dropping it will a startling thing happened to us all that indicated a value priced bitcoin truly extraordinary as few days that could reach $20 k
 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: UsernameBitcoin on December 25, 2017, 11:41:35 PM
I wouldn't believe if bitcoin will die, it is a statement that is painful for all users. I'm sure this is just the thing that has become commonplace for him if there is bitcoin bitcoin will is weak as hell but after dropping it will a startling thing happened to us all that indicated a value priced bitcoin truly extraordinary as few days that could reach $20 k
 

The problem is currently that the fees to send Bitcoin are simply way too high. I don't understand what the developers are thinking. They  should be trying to lower fees, but it seems they want to increase them. It makes zero sense. I really don't get it, but anyways if BTC dies then we will just move to another coin. :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Coyoteerex09 on December 25, 2017, 11:46:23 PM
Well, bitcoins transactions right now is what is killing himself. We cannot deny the fact that the high transaction fees and slow transaction process is a bit irritating to the investors.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: blockman on December 25, 2017, 11:51:45 PM
Bitcoin is alive again, the fees were quite for today/tonight and it's amazing to have some transactions for this day of Christmas and I hope that this will be continuous so that every bitcoin holders and transactors aren't going to whine again with the high fees.
Well, bitcoins transactions right now is what is killing himself. We cannot deny the fact that the high transaction fees and slow transaction process is a bit irritating to the investors.
And that's the reason why others are looking into other cryptocurrencies, the ones that has fast transactions and cheaper fees.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: btcone111 on December 26, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
This is indeed something the core team has to work on.
I hope LN would be implemented successfully asap this would probably solve this problem.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Darooghe on December 26, 2017, 12:37:59 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

Yes. you are right. Bitcoin is dead.
But you have a choice. pick up bitcoin cash until LN version release


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: LorenoCoin on December 26, 2017, 02:00:11 AM

I agree, their commissions are very high, however, I do not think that is dead, bitcoin is still a good alternative to invest, it is a matter of time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kier010 on December 26, 2017, 02:17:05 AM
bitcoin is not dead it turns into business where every transaction you will pay for it. bitcoin price increase then miners and exchange sites want to earn profit so they increase fees to. i just hope this problem will be solved so we don't have to worry about tomorrow or the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Invester on December 26, 2017, 02:24:05 AM
Bitcoin is not yet dead. It remains alive and very much healthy. The problem is that there are people who are doing all they can to counter the growth of Bitcoin. The likes of Roger Ver and Jihan Wu cannot and do not want to play the game fair. They may be promoting an altcoin that offers better features but they are not satisfied with the proper promotion of such. They try to clog the blockchain as well as cause the value of Bitcoin to dump to make their coin looks better.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: canadiancrypto on December 26, 2017, 02:43:51 AM
Roger's Bitcoin is going through some troubles, but I love how as soon as there is something like that immediately everyone tries to sell everything and all panic ensues. Bitcoin isn't dead, maybe to you, but there's millions who believe in it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kenellis2017 on December 26, 2017, 03:12:29 AM
Bitcoin will be not dead. it'll increase, at the same time, the fee'll increase,too. We can transfer by eth or ltc to have reduced fee.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Jeger.Kiting on December 26, 2017, 04:53:45 AM
bitcoin is not dead it turns into business where every transaction you will pay for it. bitcoin price increase then miners and exchange sites want to earn profit so they increase fees to. i just hope this problem will be solved so we don't have to worry about tomorrow or the future.

I agree with you, Bitcoin will never die until the decisive moment, I think all this is fair enough to make a deal, the miners only see bitcoin prices for now, if the bitcoin price gets higher, your transaction costs will rise from the usual. . , but it all depends on your own withdrawal, big or small, if you make a big withdrawal your fees will be great but if you make a small withdrawal your fee will be small.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ipanks on December 26, 2017, 05:35:07 AM
I think people keep saying bitcoin is dead because they cannot accept when bitcoin is down like a few days ago and they get lost their money by doing cut loss the bitcoin. but if they already cut loss their bitcoin then I think now they will regret because the bitcoin price is starting to increase and now slowly but surely, the price wants to rise another high price. so I hope people can think again about saying bitcoin is dead because many people don't want to see bitcoin is really dead.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mevmike on December 26, 2017, 06:41:18 AM
i do agree that bitcoin is currently having a lot of flaws.
but i dont think we are on the point that it will be ok to say that it is already dead.
as of now i also believe that transaction fees are really high.
but for me it is still tolerable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: senyorito123 on December 26, 2017, 07:26:34 AM
BTC dump so quickly, now everyone scared of buying this instead of waiting to buy btc in cheap price as before =))
Not everyone scared of btc quickly dump some bitcoiners are waiting that dump because that's the right opportunity to buy cheaper bitcoin,and bitcoin is not dead only people not accepting the big dump of bitcoin because they are always thinking the high price in the market and also transaction fees are very high increase,those people who are directly panic if bitcoin is dump that is the people who are not doing research about crypto currency that's why they dont know the advantage and dis -advantage of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: stripykitteh on December 27, 2017, 12:33:51 AM

I agree, their commissions are very high, however, I do not think that is dead, bitcoin is still a good alternative to invest, it is a matter of time.
As the price of Bitcoin went down some because of the large events that's been going on, there wasn't that many Bitcoin is dead posts -there was more of those posts before.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Bandon on December 27, 2017, 02:46:40 AM
Bitcoin is not dead. Bitcoin will never be dead. Many people have said that before but look where bitcoin is right now. Just because you are having a bad time it's unfair to say that bitcoin is dead. Yes the fees are freakin high right now but many people are still using bitcoin. Sooner or later will adapt to that and still continue to use bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ipanks on December 27, 2017, 03:21:07 AM
I hope that people in out there can see what is going on with bitcoin because until now, bitcoin give a good movement in the market and the price is up and down and we can make the profit from this. I guess they will regret this because they don't buy bitcoin while the price is dump yesterday. bitcoin will always remain like this and the volatility will always happen and if we can use this as our chance to make a profit then we can make a lot of money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: spiderm4n15 on December 27, 2017, 03:24:45 AM
maybe the Bitcoin will be dead, cause the miner fee is so expensive,
i suggest invest to BCH or BTG cause the miner fee is so cheap, and the block is so big than bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mumbeeptind1963 on December 27, 2017, 03:29:33 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

Yes. you are right. Bitcoin is dead.
But you have a choice. pick up bitcoin cash until LN version release
How can it be dead if there are many people are continue using bitcoin also day by day many are shown interest in bitcoin. And if its dead why is still popular to many peole and its value is rising also.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cen212687 on December 27, 2017, 03:41:04 AM
Maybe he joined new group who promise to gives more bitcoin if he pay certain amount, but actually a scam. I dont think bitcoin ask for certain fee though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Compa on December 27, 2017, 04:00:35 AM
I don't think bitcoin is dead
bitcoin is never die, bitcoin the future of cryptocurrency and bitcoin is a good features and the best invesment for the longterm.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cipher-x_09 on December 27, 2017, 04:16:26 AM
I mean the high transaction fee is killing bitcoin right now. Imagine the transaction is higher than the amount bitcoin you are going to send to your families or loved ones talk about the miners requiring so much fee for their mining business. I mean it should stop doing that because in the on-going years to come this will eventually lead to the downfall of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kpcian on December 27, 2017, 04:44:59 AM
Not at all, this is just a bullshit comment. Day by day Bitcoin is becoming a popular payment method and a dominating currency around the developed countries. a lot of countries have approved it as a legal payment method. not only that but also Bitcoin is using many purposes. A group of renowned companies are accepting Bitcoin as a payment option at online.

So you can't say like this, the demand of Bitcoin is increasing at a high rate. I believe that Bitcoin will dominate in the currency world in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Coyoteerex09 on December 27, 2017, 01:23:38 PM
In some ways I think bitcoin is killing itself. Due to its increasing transaction fees, it could lessen the interest of its investors. Hopefully, an improvement to its technology will happen to prevent this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: OrangeSeller on December 29, 2017, 10:26:00 AM
If you are referring to this correction, it doesn't indicate the death of Bitcoin. I'd like to address the ever-increasing pending transactions though.
Yeah if people are asking that bitcoin is dead because of this fall then it is useless and pumps and dumps were the convention from start of bitcoin and those who are familiar to the ups and downs of bitcoin are known to this fact that after every fall in prices there is huge shooting pump in prices which take prices to the whole new record value so don’t put ears on such statements stick to your aim and you will soon get it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: shezu007 on December 29, 2017, 10:32:39 AM
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Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: batman12345 on December 29, 2017, 03:39:05 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

you know why this happened? because bitcoin can handlle 6 - 7 tps.
mau you check this link https://blockchain.info/id/unconfirmed-transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: daniweb on December 29, 2017, 03:41:55 PM
The blockchain was really busy and the fee is indeed very high, but I think a solution will be found. A lot of people want to invest in Bitcoin, so I'd say it is far from dead


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: J Gambler on December 29, 2017, 03:44:53 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

I am still a believer about bitcoind though. I am a little sorry for what happened and nobody wants that to ever happen to them. Bitcoin fees are really rodiculously hogh bit even on this small hiccup a lot are still going and a proof of the boom that bitcoin is


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Coin_trader on December 29, 2017, 03:45:10 PM
It's just stuck but it would surely reach your wallet, i have the same experience where my transaction took almost a month before it got credited at my receiving wallet, another one took a couple of weeks before the receiver got my payment sent long ago. It's just stuck but it would surely come. There are some what they called accelerator but it did not bring any changes in the transaction speed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: michellee on January 02, 2018, 08:43:28 AM
As far as I know there's a trading company that have been hacked which affected a lot of bitcoin volume. Bitcoin is not yet dead, you knew it. It is unstable. Yet, there's still a huge possibility that it will be back next year kicking the market again.
I think such people will never succeed in their tricks, because the people still believe bitcoin the most and if there is decrease in the price in these days it is for the time being and after Christmas we will see raise in the price. Then nobody will sell their bitcoin.

I think many people are selling their bitcoins for Christmas shopping and that’s why the price is falling down. Bitcoin death means it is finished but it is there in the market.

the price will be increasing soon and yesterday people selling their bitcoin because they want to celebrate their profit that is happening in the new years. yesterday I make withdraw too because I really need this money to make some gathering with my friends and we talk much about bitcoin. we have a discussion about bitcoin and all of them including me is agreed that bitcoin is not dead, the price is only down and makes correction price so the price could increase higher than we could see.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bitcoin31 on January 02, 2018, 08:47:29 AM
Bitcoin is not dead and for sure it will recover again from it's crash and we will see again the price will back again at 20k dollars. Im happy now because the transaction fee decrease little and I want to decrease more so we can get more profit. The transaction fee of bitcoin last fre weeks is very high so Im happy it decrease. We support bitcoin so it will survive again . The better we gonna do right now is to buy bitcoin and hold it for few months until the price recover. Pump bitcoin get more  profit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Daimon88 on January 03, 2018, 05:50:39 AM
The bitcoin price it reaches all time high when that happen there is always a correction to dump the value. In this situation most sell their hodlings or maybe into altcoins to take profit. It aways happen like this pump and dump, but it not dead. Price is will go to go up soon.
Bitcoin is not dead. There is a dropped down in all crypto currencies market not only bitcoin. It doesn’t means that bitcoin died. As we see an initial up then sudden down. It happens in the crypto world. Now as it price down it will attract more buyers those who interested to buy bitcoin at lower prices. Now it is opportunity for them buy bitcoin. And soon they will profitable with a sudden rise up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Coyoteerex09 on January 03, 2018, 04:25:24 PM
In my opinion those people who thinks bitcoin is dead are the ones who will do panic selling if in case the price of bitcoin will have a dip.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Samings on January 03, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
this problem is just start last month after 12/10 and will solve fast.
fake news that talk bitcoincash is bitcoin only try to destroy bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Astermony on March 15, 2018, 11:26:10 PM
      Bitcoin is not dead. It will become dead if nobody use it,patronized it and continue to earn on it. Just look bitcoin price still high even it drop down. And the value of bitcoin is different from other cryptocurrency,it will not end in just one click.The higher fees and low transaction now is just a cause of hollidays. Most of the people are in rush even in selling their bitcoin that really affect the bitcoin market but i think there is no reason to worry about.
True, if bitcoin is dead then no one of my friends are spending their time for bitcoin. There are people who make their self uneasy. And as I observed many people are interested to invest in bitcoin so bitcoin is far to be dead.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cryptogideon19 on March 15, 2018, 11:29:06 PM
I think your promoting another coin. Cause if Bitcoin is DEAD all your coins endorse are all DEAD too. Think about it ? Your such a Good Marketing BRO ahahaha.. Simply if Bitcoin is DEAD don't Post it. And rely on what you have coins. Think about it. If BTC will DEAD right now will your BTW or any COins you HOLD will be ALIVE? Think of it :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: goribert on July 13, 2018, 11:00:11 PM
I think that before declaring bitcoin "officially dead", many solutions to the problems that are currently being presented can still be found. It is true that I also had bad times with unconfirmed transactions  for many days and excessive fees that I was not able to pay sometimes, but I am very confident that this ecosystem has people with enough skills and intelligence to solve this, because I believe that it is not convenient for anyone to see a giant slowly agonize in whom all eyes are placed and is the reference par excellence of all other cyptos.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bangkecol on July 13, 2018, 11:03:11 PM
it seems like it took a few more decades for the bitcoin to actually die. this is because big btc shareowners will not stay silent, according to my analysis, if the stock has entered the floor of the stock, it is difficult to be removed from circulation


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Raja_Salman on July 14, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
for me in investing with crypto space that it takes belief and confidence, both currency and any coins that we have remain calm if there is any news or bad possibility that will happen


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: 131tc01n on July 20, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
bitcoin will not die, you are in a high emotion because 4 bitcoin you are stuck in the void. you have 4 bitcoins and that's a very high value, in fact I do not know how you got it, but obviously you are trying hard to get it, and now you say "BITCOIN is DEAD", you have no trust in your investment, haha


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: crossabdd on July 20, 2018, 11:13:40 PM
only a small percentage of transactions like you. it could be bitcoin network being interrupted, or your transaction is doublespend. so that pending the old. but you can't say bitcoin is dead. when most transactions can be very fast and easy. so your opinion will not change the millions of their opinions that often transact with bitcoin. about transaction choice, it is your decision.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: seramania on July 20, 2018, 11:18:19 PM
not easy to declare dead bitcoin. bitcoin is now still one of the strongest coins in cryptocurrency even bitcoin prices are very high. maybe in the next few days the price of bitcoin will get higher and this is the initial step for higher fly bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MTNAX on July 21, 2018, 01:54:24 AM
I do not think bitcoin will die while we are still using it, bitcoin will not die if we are able to solve the problem in the bitcoin. But there are still many solutions that can be found for the good of bitcoin in the future. So I think bitcoin will be more developed next day and will not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Khanhdzai on July 21, 2018, 01:57:16 AM
The transaction fee is always high. If you want to receive Bitcoin fast then the fee should be more than $ 30


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: DisWhale on July 21, 2018, 02:02:58 AM
Declaring Bitcoin dead means the internet is also dead. Bitcoin has come this far to fail its investors as it has been established and accepted in several countries whereby it is being utilized to enhance payments of goods and services.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mohammedhwang on July 21, 2018, 02:09:26 AM
noway, Bitcoin will never dead. Even It can go down now but they will rise up soon. Do not worry


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: javascript1539 on July 21, 2018, 03:36:28 AM
When most transactions can be very quick and easy. On the transaction option, it's your decision. It is true that I also have bad times with unconfirmed transactions for days and too much money that sometimes I can not pay, but I am confident that this ecosystem has people who have the skills and intelligence To solve this problem, because I believe it is not convenient for anyone to see a giant slowly agonize in that all the eye is placed and is the par excellence reference. all other cyptos.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Geemy on July 21, 2018, 03:40:09 AM
He believes that he is very poor and will inevitably die and end this era is not useful from the false news that it is over and it is over and now it is in the stage of death


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ArifNewaz on July 21, 2018, 03:45:37 AM
Ive had 2 years of fun watching clowns say Bitcoin is dead. It just gets stronger every year as your dollar buys you less and less each year. Its been a slow death as the cost of housing, tuition, healthcare all soar.😂


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kingdom2710 on July 21, 2018, 05:12:43 AM
I am happy that the transaction fee has been reduced very little and I want to reduce more to make more profit. We support bitcoin so that it will survive back. Bitcoin pumps are more profitable. There is a decline in all currency market encryption not just bitcoin. As we see an initial up then suddenly down. Now because it prices down it will attract many buyers who are interested to buy bitcoin at a lower price. And soon they will be profitable with a sudden increase.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: hahahafr on July 21, 2018, 10:19:59 PM
Why are you saying that? Bitcoin is not dead, and the only scenario in where it would die, is only if there is a huge FUD strategy to make everybody go out of crypto, otherwise, it will be in here forever, so there is no need to be worried about


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bitcoinajax455 on July 21, 2018, 10:25:05 PM
Why are you saying that? Bitcoin is not dead, and the only scenario in where it would die, is only if there is a huge FUD strategy to make everybody go out of crypto, otherwise, it will be in here forever, so there is no need to be worried about

That's right! No need to worry, bitcoin will be last forever. Bitcoin will be more demand in the future and more investors will using bitcoin. Just ignoring those negative issue's about bitcoin and have faith in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: fipper on July 21, 2018, 11:12:58 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
I think bitcoin will not die because until now I bitcoin still has the highest price than any other coin, as long as the crypto currency is in the bitcoin world it will still be there that I think


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: turagsoy123456 on July 21, 2018, 11:18:12 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.


Friend, as my opinion based of my observation bitcoin will not die. Infact a lot of progressive country are now using bitcoin. And the popularity of bitcion are still exist all over the world...think positivity of bitcoin because bitcoin will last forever. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: xitrum on July 21, 2018, 11:23:20 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
I think that at this time you should sell bitcoin, it can be seen that after several days of continuous price increase, at the moment the bitcoin price is beginning to fall, so I think that at this time you should sell bitcoin to be able to preserve the profit. My analysis is that the $ 6800 mark is a very strong support level and you can completely buy the bitcoin in that landmark.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: btc_angela on July 21, 2018, 11:35:12 PM
noway, Bitcoin will never dead. Even It can go down now but they will rise up soon. Do not worry

Yes, bitcoin is immortal, there is no way to die my favourite cryptocurrency! :D

I have a good chuckle when you say that bitcoin is immortal. Lol. It might last for a very long time and we can't even see the last bitcoin mine in our lifetime.

@xitrum, looks like you have your own analysis, but I don't think that people will simple offload their bitcoin now. The price is still good and it even go further. We have not seen any news that will impact the price to go below $7K again so for me its not wise to get sell it today and take the profits, its better to hold on it for long term.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on July 21, 2018, 11:50:03 PM
You're just telling this because you don't like the fees that you are paying where in fact Bitcoin is ruling since from the starts and many altcoins are trying to copy what Bitcoin did in the past. I guess Lightning Network is your best choice left but it isn't available right now.
I really appreciate the decision you have made because I am a little bit the same as your opinion.
It's true what you say is that bitcoin came into power early on and lots of altcoin are trying to copy what Bitcoin did in the past so there's a bit of a tough competition but I'm sure bitcoin stays on top of all the coins because this bitcoin is the strongest coin ever I found out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MI6 on July 21, 2018, 11:58:33 PM
noway, Bitcoin will never dead. Even It can go down now but they will rise up soon. Do not worry

Yes, bitcoin is immortal, there is no way to die my favourite cryptocurrency! :D
don't worry people like that only come and then will go, as long as we still believe with bitcoin there are nothing to worried  ;D fud like that wouldn't affect for bitcoin price. we all know that


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Tashi on July 22, 2018, 12:34:46 AM
It is crazy. I was just about to send 0.2btc and i have to pay more than 0.006 fee! This is outrageous! Almost 300k unconfirmed transactions and it's not getting any better

Yes, it actually turns out that the transaction fee was way more expensive than the amount you'll be sending or spend. I really hope that these problems would be fixed otherwise Crypto investors/users will lessen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Naughty Princess on July 22, 2018, 01:02:41 AM
Declaring Bitcoin dead means the internet is also dead. Bitcoin has come this far to fail its investors as it has been established and accepted in several countries whereby it is being utilized to enhance payments of goods and services.
I agree. Bitcoin will be dead only when the internet shutdown also but declaring it to be dead is not true and those who lose with it claimed that. I believe that it will last long and never going to lose its value even in the future instead it will grow and become more expensive and can be used everywhere as payment when become acceptable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hunterbobi on July 22, 2018, 01:52:50 AM
Bitcoin will not die! The problems with processing transactions and high duties will not be compared with the profit that bitkoin and other altcoins give.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bstewart on July 22, 2018, 01:59:27 AM
Doesn't mean that it is dead but it does illustrate how desperately bitcoin needs to properly scale and lower transaction costs. That is the reason why I use eth over btc


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: steampunkz on July 22, 2018, 02:06:17 AM
Its been a year now and it's an old thread! I think this guy is happy and still using bitcoin as his primary payment gateway. Long live bitcoins, Bitcoin is still the best and the number 1 crypto for me!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: adjong on July 22, 2018, 02:08:28 AM
for me bitcoin is not dead yet because the price rises is not the same as the other coin is coming down is definitely dead. you bitcoin anytime not die because it's a popular nowadays all the unemployed earns the dollor right now .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: previouslyabused on July 22, 2018, 05:20:52 AM
I believe this ecosystem has people with the skills and intelligence to solve this problem, because I believe it is not convenient for anyone to see a giant slowly suffering in it all. The eye is placed and is excellent reference par. I am very happy that the transaction fee has been reduced very little and I want to reduce more to make more profit. Bitcoin pumps are more profitable. As we see an original up then suddenly down. And soon they will be profitable with a sudden increase.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Jerick01311 on July 22, 2018, 05:43:01 AM
Bitcoin Is Dead this is Good Topic . Many New Investor are Afraid to sell it Bitcoin because he Buy 19000$ but Now she only 7300$ hmmm Very Lost Profit. Thats Why Many new investor Are Left in CryptoCurrency because the Xrong Timing Of Buying of Bitcoin. We need to learn. but If You make A Learn About Bitcoin And If you See the Prediction of Bitcoin. The Proffesional Trader are Predited Bitcoin are Pump up to 50,000$. In that year 2018
 But your Problem are Transaction about Very High on December 2017 it is Transaction are getting Higher Because of Blockchain fee if many sender are send Of Amount 5$  it will Be UP because of blockchain are Getting Traffic And Very Slow Transaction this is The Reason Why The Blockchain Fee are Getting Slow And Getting higher on That Year .

BITCOIN is Not Dead :)
 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Sweetyeds84 on July 22, 2018, 06:01:15 AM
No way that bitoin will be dead at this short period of time specialy today that bitcoin is just only starting hes career to the real world. I know bitcoin will be more popular in the coming more years and it wont die so easily.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: nx24tan180n on July 22, 2018, 06:03:03 AM
Bitcoin will soon rise again. It will reach new peak in a matter of time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Ekimzjames20 on July 22, 2018, 06:12:06 AM
Bitcoin will soon rise again. It will reach new peak in a matter of time.

Bitcoin is still alive, kicking and still willing to give blessings to everyone who believe and trust their power. It is in a low price but it is slowly raise, step by step until they can achieve their  goal.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: pltgksl on July 22, 2018, 06:24:27 AM
i think bitcoin will not die because it is out of live and it will the fate our world(maybe very assertive )


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: 2408AAY on July 22, 2018, 06:53:29 AM
This is ridiculous somehow. How can bitcoin die out like that. Irrespective of the challenges bitcoin faces, they're still alive. Bitcoin will never die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: allgetshigh on July 22, 2018, 07:04:54 AM
This is ridiculous somehow. How can bitcoin die out like that. Irrespective of the challenges bitcoin faces, they're still alive. Bitcoin will never die.

I would not be so categorical :D Imagine what will happen if at least 1 bitcoin moves from Satoshi's wallet ... this will be comparable to the advent of aliens and then anything can happen... ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Amokomowo2005 on July 22, 2018, 07:31:49 AM
It's not like that again now believe the reason was only because of too much transactions on the node which makes the miner to increase the fee.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: wormgummy019 on July 22, 2018, 07:34:00 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.


For me, bitcoin will be never dead because it is still running right now even though the market price is low. Don't pretend and spread the news that bitcoin is fake because it affects the bitcoin itself. It pulls out the investment of the people who wants to invest in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Indai24 on July 22, 2018, 07:38:27 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.


For me, bitcoin will be never dead because it is still running right now even though the market price is low. Don't pretend and spread the news that bitcoin is fake because it affects the bitcoin itself. It pulls out the investment of the people who wants to invest in bitcoin.

Who says bitcoin is dead? it was not dead and it will never be dead. Well in fact bitcoin price is all the way up and everyone is so about about it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: jennygamilo on July 22, 2018, 07:39:15 AM
Bitcoin is dead ? Is it true ? Is there are evidences proves it ? Is it possible to happen?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Btcmicel on July 22, 2018, 07:42:35 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.


For me, bitcoin will be never dead because it is still running right now even though the market price is low. Don't pretend and spread the news that bitcoin is fake because it affects the bitcoin itself. It pulls out the investment of the people who wants to invest in bitcoin.

I think bitcoin will not dead, as far as i know bitcoin is slowly raise. In a years past bitcoin prove themself how strong it is, so i did not hesitate that bitcoin can achieve thein main goal in value. It happen just wait and see...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: polyballz on July 22, 2018, 07:47:26 AM
Bitcoin needs an update in terms of transaction costs and transaction processing time, because if it can be completed in accordance with the will of most Bitcoin consumers, it will give new hope to the Bitcoin market, as I am aware of the rising Bitcoin price caused by the rising demand of the crypto market. Bitcoin should attract buyers a lot if they want to stay alive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Akenosi on July 22, 2018, 08:23:01 AM
Bitcoin is not dead and will never die, so many people not believe in bitcoin since 2009 and its still much active till today, will be supported by the government too in future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Aris novianto on July 22, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
bitcoin will never die, because bitcoin coins are official and also bitcoin prices are now starting to rise, bitcoin will be more and more of its enthusiasts, until whenever I will work to follow bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: rye18 on July 22, 2018, 11:50:19 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

I think no one among available in the crypto market today that can defeat bitcoin because bitcoin is a very strong coin, In fact this is now slowly recovering  and the market value for now is more than $7000.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Peashooter on July 22, 2018, 11:53:14 AM
I don't think bitcoin is dead
bitcoin is never die, bitcoin the future of cryptocurrency and bitcoin is a good features and the best invesment for the longterm.
Yes, bitcoin Cannot be dead cause bitcoin is the future cryptocurrency that give good future to us.  Bitcoin is the best investment it is profitable, especially if you invest in longterm in this kind of investment all you need is patient to wait until the price value is goes up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Skieleton on July 22, 2018, 12:04:26 PM
I don't think bitcoin is dead
bitcoin is never die, bitcoin the future of cryptocurrency and bitcoin is a good features and the best invesment for the longterm.
Yes, bitcoin Cannot be dead cause bitcoin is the future cryptocurrency that give good future to us.  Bitcoin is the best investment it is profitable, especially if you invest in longterm in this kind of investment all you need is patient to wait until the price value is goes up.
I do not agree with you. Is BTC a good investment, yes. However, there is no certainty that the price will be in a year or two. Certainly not dead;).


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Bitdressa on July 22, 2018, 12:18:13 PM
not bitcoin does not die, because this bitcoin is one of the future money in this modern and all-round digital era.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: rejekitiban on July 22, 2018, 12:56:54 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

I think It just crysis. Bitcoin will bounce back againm The market will green.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Gotumoot on July 22, 2018, 01:04:19 PM
I don't think bitcoin is dead
bitcoin is never die, bitcoin the future of cryptocurrency and bitcoin is a good features and the best invesment for the longterm.
Yes, bitcoin Cannot be dead cause bitcoin is the future cryptocurrency that give good future to us.  Bitcoin is the best investment it is profitable, especially if you invest in longterm in this kind of investment all you need is patient to wait until the price value is goes up.
For now i think that bitcoin will not die, because it has no competitor. The dropping of its price now is just because of its volatility, and its normal, all investments are going ups and downs, so whats happening to bitcoin now is part of the process. Stay calm and focus on your investments, ignore the bad news, and many speculations spreadin, because it will just give you headache and wrong informations that can affect your will on investing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: wanimulyo on July 22, 2018, 01:05:04 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

No I think Bitcoin is never die. Bitcoin will exist for along time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on July 22, 2018, 01:05:55 PM
not bitcoin does not die, because this bitcoin is one of the future money in this modern and all-round digital era.
A good opinion and I agree with your opinion about bitcoin.
Yes it is true bitcoin will not die as long as there are still many people who believe it and let alone this bitcoin is one of the future money in the modern digital era and more and more people are using bitcoin by seeing bitcoin fame in the world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hoho29 on July 22, 2018, 01:06:55 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
Do you think the same now ?
Bitcoin dead is the sweet word banks and some government wishing to be true but that would be impossible even one transaction confirmed in 1 week .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Compiler on July 22, 2018, 01:13:00 PM
Bitcoin cant die, day by day they create more things to the easy use of it and look, in two days it rise like 1000$.. Appreciate it


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mirror001 on July 22, 2018, 01:13:30 PM
Bitcoin is never gonna dead because it is the best and most fluent currency online till the day and most of the people are trying to let the bitcoin but it will not because the more anything go higher the more opponent that thing will have and when it will achieve it mile stone then everyone will know that Bitcoin is unbeatable.

So this may be for a few days or some technical error for some time and it will be fixed just have patient and not make any transaction till it is fixed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Ruby kumar on July 22, 2018, 01:15:27 PM
No Bitcoin is not dead


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: tawi_exxel on July 22, 2018, 01:22:50 PM
anyone can say that but bitcoin will not die and keep on following technological advances and let us prove the next 10 years we will surely be surprised by the developments you see about bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: RoryPottie on July 22, 2018, 01:45:52 PM
I think that there is an error here. I and everyone don't hope bitcoin is dead. I think bitcoin is not easy to dead after the period of time it's strong like that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Angle22 on July 22, 2018, 01:52:49 PM
bitcoin will not die, because bitcoin is already enlarged to a big country, let alone bitcoin the price is never low.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: irfandi hasan on July 22, 2018, 01:54:54 PM
Don't forget you can buy a big mac next year with bitcoin?

Guess how much it will cost?


I'm not sure bitcoin will die, if you guess the price of a big mac for next year I don't understand, I just followed the developments only bitcoin fore and can grow the better


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Apple4myCat on July 22, 2018, 01:57:23 PM
bitcoin never die, this is electronic gold. For this kriptoalyutoy great future and I'm sure that we will soon see how banks will sell bitcoin to people


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ohzeih5n on July 22, 2018, 01:59:27 PM
Nice joke, I'm studying world economics and specialised in Management and Finance, I can assure you that btc will never die. It may happen ups and downs but it will stay there for ever. Simply Bitcoin is the future's currency (Can't argue about that..)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: LKingLion on July 22, 2018, 02:00:31 PM
Bitcoin is dead in terms of breathing but in terms of active it is alive.
Assuming bitcoin is dead we can't see it now in the market as the top one in crypto. There were so many news that seems reliable but actually we can found out it is fake news. Bitcoin is not dead it is alive in terms of digital negotiations and transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Supremacy1 on July 22, 2018, 02:03:23 PM
U are entitle to ur own opinion , many people called it scam few years ago when it is still very cheap, but they are saying had l known today


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Nakakapagpabagabag on July 22, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Bitcoin is never gonna dead because it is the best and most fluent currency online till the day and most of the people are trying to let the bitcoin but it will not because the more anything go higher the more opponent that thing will have and when it will achieve it mile stone then everyone will know that Bitcoin is unbeatable.

So this may be for a few days or some technical error for some time and it will be fixed just have patient and not make any transaction till it is fixed.
Yes bitcoin wont die. The dropping of bitcoin price does not mean that bitcoin is going to die, its just that its going ups and downs, because bitcoin created volatile, and ita normal. And also bitcoin dont have competitor, so why die? Bitcoin will surely be with us in the future, because bitcoin is the future currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hendrahendri on July 22, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
why do you think bitcoin is dead, maybe it is going on a bug, try to have his fee risin may be faster his response


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on July 22, 2018, 03:15:37 PM
bitcoin will not die, because bitcoin is already enlarged to a big country, let alone bitcoin the price is never low.
Your opinion is very good and I agree with your opinion because I see bitcoin is not going to die.
If you see the prospect of bitcoin is very good to hold on because bitcoin hold up with any problem so bitcoin is hard to say die because already many people believe it and most great bitcoin is able to raise many countries in this world so I'm sure bitcoin will not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hudadahuda2018 on July 22, 2018, 03:22:44 PM
Bitcoin will never die it will keep increasing except it's no longer acceptable in the world.
I agree with your opinion and I am happy to hear the cometmen you created because to my knowledge that bitcoin is right not going to die.
If you look at the history of life bitcoin is very good to believe because bitcoin hold up with any problem so bitcoin is hard to say die because already many people believe it and most great bitcoin is able to raise many countries in this world so I'm sure bitcoin will not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Magic Sarap on July 22, 2018, 04:57:52 PM
Bitcoin is not dead HE is our future and we are living in interesting time!! I think after couple of years we will not use cash because CASH will be dead not bitcoin, he is the best way to pey!! And just remember when bitcoin are with us new technoligy as with us too! ;) >:(
Ive red many articles saying bitcoin is dead and some saying bitcoin will die. If you are a real supporter of bitcoin you will ignore this kind of things that is made by idiots who are againts in btc. Honestly i dont really care about them, i care for the price of btc in the market. And how they can say that bitcoin is dead, when its still operates today?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Nick Abimanyu on July 22, 2018, 09:18:10 PM
And in fact this has been fixed since last January, but the market turmoil has been dimmed by some restrictions which Google applies, bitcoin value continues to suffer from a decline in value which is quite prolonged, because the prohibition of google hanging so alone without existence a clear decision until early June 2018.

Bitcoin needs an update in terms of transaction costs and transaction processing time, because if it can be completed in accordance with the will of most Bitcoin consumers, it will give new hope to the Bitcoin market, as I am aware of the rising Bitcoin price caused by the rising demand of the crypto market. Bitcoin should attract buyers a lot if they want to stay alive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Larva14 on July 22, 2018, 09:44:29 PM
not bitcoin does not die, because this bitcoin is one of the future money in this modern and all-round digital era.
Bitcoin is our modern money in the future and bitcoin never be die because this coin are valueble in investing. Bitcoin are future investment cause the value is continues increasing so that our investment will be grow in high profitable income.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Bitcoinnumberone on July 22, 2018, 10:08:22 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
Do not worry about they say that bitcoin is dead they have not proof that bitcoin is going to dead but i believe that bitcoin is rising up you can do is continue what you're doing bitcoin will never die cuz we need bitcoin in our lives.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: tanjiran on July 22, 2018, 10:13:40 PM
why do you think bitcoin is dead, maybe it is going on a bug, try to have his fee risin may be faster his response
Why do so many people worry about falling prices? for me, it is a natural thing because the price of unstable bitcoin, volatile, is strongly influenced by demand and supply. We must do a good market analysis, do not panic, do not be influenced by FUD.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: chel0 on July 22, 2018, 10:15:18 PM
Bitcoin is getting more popular and a lot of people were slowly moving into the crypto world. To make cryptocurrency stronger and to be able to attract more investors more tokens/altcoins were created. Maybe in the earlier stage when we started using bitcoin in an online transaction there are minor issues encountered about transfer rates and fees. But I think corrections have been made already. So I don't bitcoin is going to end.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ucok_aball on July 22, 2018, 10:22:56 PM
why do you think bitcoin is dead, maybe it is going on a bug, try to have his fee risin may be faster his response
Why do so many people worry about falling prices? for me, it is a natural thing because the price of unstable bitcoin, volatile, is strongly influenced by demand and supply. We must do a good market analysis, do not panic, do not be influenced by FUD.
Yes that's like now, many traders experience panic and actually dump when the market goes down, and the average thing like that is done by the newly entered in the trading that without understanding it first


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Notrem on July 22, 2018, 10:28:02 PM
This is quite old, i do not understand why too many people are answering here, this is from december of last year, the transaction fees were expensive as hell, and now they are worth cents.
Everything is more than good with bitcoin at the moment


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on July 22, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
I think that there is an error here. I and everyone don't hope bitcoin is dead. I think bitcoin is not easy to dead after the period of time it's strong like that.
Your opinion is very good and I like the way you think about bitcoin toughness.
Yes it is true what you are saying is that many people who expect bitcoin will not die including myself because bitcoin always helps our lives all in terms of profit and bitcoin is very useful to encourage us better so I think think bitcoin will forever live as many people who believe in it as a source of income and their profits are all including myself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: elygil2022 on July 23, 2018, 03:56:24 AM
$7,600 doesn’t look like dead to me. People should just get out of cryptocurrency if they think that bitcoin is or will soon be dead.  :-\


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: TonyEMcGraw on July 23, 2018, 04:10:54 AM
The price of bitcoin can't be predicted by anyone, so I see that we should invest with the suitable money and think how to back it up quickly. It will be safe for us.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ipanks on July 23, 2018, 04:41:14 AM
bitcoin still survive until now, even we are almost in the first 10 years from the beginning of bitcoin invented. bitcoin still grow so far and reach more people in this year so how we can say that bitcoin is dead anyway? besides that, if we can check on every bitcoin market, we can see that the bitcoin price become stronger than the last months and still going to go up for reaching the highest price again. but if you don't have the patience to wait the time for the price increase, then you can leave bitcoin and cryptocurrency and get your money back.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on July 23, 2018, 04:56:15 AM
Bitcoin will not die! The problems with processing transactions and high duties will not be compared with the profit that bitkoin and other altcoins give.
I agree with what you said that bitcoin will not die because while there are still many people who believe in bitcoin then bitcoin will not die because bitcoin luck and many benefits both in terms of transactions and when investing bitcoin easy to do and many benefits therefore I think bitcoin will not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Danilotot on July 23, 2018, 05:53:27 AM
is the bitcoin dead? not my answer, you know that bitcoin has made money manipulation, you can convert it to any money and it needs crypto so investors can find the stop in lows of currentcies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: olegblinov86 on July 23, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
Yes, bitcoin is not perfect now and transactions are not very profitable, but it is corrected, as bitcoin is improving every day. He's young.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Pyr3x on July 23, 2018, 10:06:59 AM
Bitcoin is a developing currency and therefore has some disadvantages. But this is all temporary, in a few years the technology will be more perfect.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: tylor4343 on July 23, 2018, 12:21:38 PM
Bitcoin wont die. The dropping of bitcoin price does not mean that bitcoin is going to die, its just that its going ups and downs, because bitcoin created volatile, and ita normal. And also bitcoin dont have competitor, so why die? Bitcoin will surely be with us in the future, because bitcoin is the future currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Bughah on July 23, 2018, 12:43:50 PM
Bitcoin will never die

The impression it left on people, embarking the hope for a change, a better world that spark would never die
Whenever you hear about how amazing blockchain is and how changed our world, you’d think of how you heard about it first and great chances are you’d be thinking bitcoin
The people who trusted bitcoin, the loyal hodlers who found their fortunes from bitcoin and the millions inspired from their tales will never forget bitcoin
The idea is never going to die.

It will never happen,right now the price  of the bitcoin is gradyally rising again Instead of thinking negative,we need to be positive that bitcoin will fully recover.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: CaptainFalconPunch on July 23, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
this will never happen


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Prapatan on July 23, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
may be constrained by network problems at the time of transaction, bitcoin is now starting to rise, and I expect the price will continue to rise until as early as 2018 yesterday.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Bulljcak on July 23, 2018, 01:20:40 PM
2 hours, ZERO CONFIRMATIONS.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/896db98664cfeb280477b56383b9fbab6232fc21ca06902c44b89173d496f817/

I think this is just a false information to give chance to other currency.But they cannot bit btc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: reighbut2017 on July 23, 2018, 01:31:21 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

I think the problem is on exchanges or the type of transactions you are doing because bitcoin for now is still very strong and even it experienced today a huge drop but bitcoin still able to manage and  to compete in crypto world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: joebrook on July 23, 2018, 02:02:57 PM
this will never happen
This is simply an exaggeration meant to throw people in a mode of panic so that they sell their bitcoins and cause the value of Bitcoins to drop significantly so that the vultures can then proceed to buy those bitcoins at a very cheap rates. It's all for their selfish own interests.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Vsamuel on July 23, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

Bros! This typical of all demand and supply chain and Bitcoin/Blockchain is no exception. When demand exceeds supply, transaction chain often gets choked. Giving rise to increase fees associated with transactions regardless the nature of the transaction. While i may i agree that spamming may contribute largely to this current predicament, I will use this opportunity to point out that the technology that Bitcoin runs on is not yet absolute in nature. Hence, situation of this kind are bound to occur.

I would remind you that the system is just heated for now, and the current situation may persist for something. But that doesn't mean you will be unable to get your funds in Bitcoin back, it only means that, you employ some amount of patient as you wait for the system to cool down to it usual functionality to enable you either decide on cashing out your funds or keeping your investment.

Anyways for may whose transactions have been delayed in this event, i advice you resort to other means as you wait for your already ongoing transactions to be successful.

Button line is Bitcoin is not dead. its technology is just facing a technical cliche. Which i believe has greater an avenue for innovation and solutions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MaryKiTy22 on July 23, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
Today, with the breakthrough in digital technology has created an attractive digital market as well as many things become more wonderful than bitcon are companion and exist alongside bitcoin investors do not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: totem-i on July 23, 2018, 02:11:11 PM
Fiat is DEAD


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: pokang13 on July 23, 2018, 02:28:05 PM
Bitcoin will never die it will keep increasing except it's no longer acceptable in the world.


I beg to disagree. Bitcoin is not dead because it is already being used throughout the world for a better and more convenient money transaction. It will only be dead if you will not believe it. Try it for yourself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Snakerist on July 23, 2018, 02:31:42 PM
I think that we all should understand that Bitcoin is not very convinient for money transfers and there are many other cryptocurrencies with much more advanced technologies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Zaibraid on July 23, 2018, 02:32:11 PM
I honestly do not like someone who says bitcoin has died without fundamental analysis. They say the issue is not based on clear facts. I think that they just follow the outstanding issues as well. If bitcoin is really dead then we have no more meaning to run this forum because if bitcoin as king of crypto currency is dead then other crypto currency is also questioned its sustainability. I'm not sure if other crypto currencies will also survive if there's no bitcoin. In my opinion, bitcoin has an enormous and powerful effect.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Spend.com on July 23, 2018, 02:33:33 PM
Because Bitcoin will forever be a base pair to other crytpos, it will never die. (In my personal opinion)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: asmasm on July 23, 2018, 02:35:41 PM
Fees are insane .... and the wait ...  :-[
yes right


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: pemburu sadis on July 23, 2018, 02:38:24 PM
I'm not sure Bitcoin will die. bictcoin will continue to evolve and will be the currency of the future


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: altcoinhunter01 on July 23, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
Your assumption is wrong that bitcoin is dead. It will never die because it is first coin to this market and till now no coin prove its credibility to challenge its leadership. If bitcoin die than no coin can survive in this market as 45% market share captured by bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: The cure on July 23, 2018, 02:52:45 PM
 Bitcoin is alive and will always be as long as there is an internet bitcoin will not die. Only people that hate bitcoin can say that and those who didn't believe in bitcoin. They will always think negatively instead of hoping that someday they will going to have a better future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: tetyulfania on July 23, 2018, 03:00:47 PM
Impossible bitcoin will dead, nothing reason why have to say bitcoin is dead, so far bitcoin have make many investors are interested to buy and invest their money on bitcoin. their money will increase more with making investment on bitcoin, just one way make bitcoin is dead if many investor is not want to buy bitcoin and make investment for bitcoin later.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Ryker1 on July 23, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Bitcoin is recovering, it's too early to say or predict that bitcoin is dead, or will be dead. As we can see in the market, there's a lot of loss, and it's enough for some investors to think that bitcoin will die, but now it's starting to recovering, it's slowly crawling to the top again. Bitcoin is alive, and will never be dead, unless it's banned worldwide.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: finlandais on July 23, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
No bitcoin is not dead, instead it is recovering and it is not that much easy to declare that bitcoin is dead.It is having a good future scope.It has the potential to recover.Bitcoin is not dead at all until or unless it is banned worldwide.There are many countries which are still showing great interest in BTC and declaring it legal.Many investors are investing in it because they know BTC is going to have a great future so declaring it dead is not that easy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on July 23, 2018, 11:52:29 PM
I'm not sure Bitcoin will die. bictcoin will continue to evolve and will be the currency of the future
I appreciate your opinion because each opinion is a belief and a person's belief in bitcoin to better support so bitcoin does not die and bitcoin can help our finances all so as long as bitcoin still contribute well to easy transactions then I believe that bitcoin will not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: osmo on July 23, 2018, 11:56:26 PM
I think bitcoin will not die even though the cost of sending bitcoin is currently getting expensive and the time is also getting longer, therefore I am more recovering altcoin because the shipping cost is cheaper and the time is faster than bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Frob1992 on July 24, 2018, 03:35:08 AM
For me, bitcoin can be by no means useless because it's far nonetheless going for walks proper now despite the fact that the marketplace rate is low. don't faux and spread the information that bitcoin is fake as it affects the bitcoin itself. It pulls out the funding of the folks who desires to put money into bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on July 24, 2018, 04:27:42 AM
I think bitcoin will not die even though the cost of sending bitcoin is currently getting expensive and the time is also getting longer, therefore I am more recovering altcoin because the shipping cost is cheaper and the time is faster than bitcoin
a pretty good and impressive selection for me regarding the two coins.
any coin you can choose as long as you have confidence in the coin but you need to remind that bitcoin only has a price drop so it's not necessarily bitcoin will die. If altcoin is superior to bitcoin now, then I think you deserve to choose it, but I'm sure you will soon choose bitcoin as your last coin port someday because bitcoin is the most expensive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Amarantcoral on July 24, 2018, 04:38:31 AM
i really want to keep the positive thought in my mind about the future of bitcoin but we had to look at the reality that
bitcoin price is too high and it still have some problem need to be fix  :( .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Jetakenare on July 24, 2018, 04:43:57 AM
It is in the assumption that bitcoin is just another venue to make massive profits that gives rise to these types of posts. The technology is very relevant to the financial world and due to this bitcoin can never die. Price is only a reflection of demand and supply. The more investors are interested and keep buying,the higher the price. And I have come to realise that for the past 3 years,bitcoin price always appreciates in the second half of the year. So fi gets crossed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ynclksnr321 on July 24, 2018, 04:45:44 AM
Bitcoin does not easily bring your own end. when comes up with a positive outcome from the ETF decisions that will be announced in the upcoming period, make sure that the bitcoin goes through an incredible bulge every day.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: FarmerGreene2 on July 24, 2018, 04:46:24 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.

This could have been fixed this years ago with a trivial code change to adopt larger block sizes and/or a more frequent block interval.  The core team chose not to, and sacrificed the right now solution for the someday solution.  Either or both would have enabled massively more transactions, made mining more profitable, and driven BTC demand.  Ignoring this was a huge mistake, and it has significantly hampered adoption of BTC as a functional day-to-day currency.

It's not dead; it's crippled.  There are people with the power to heal it, but doing so would require them to admit they were wrong.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: michellee on July 24, 2018, 04:50:51 AM
Bitcoin is recovering, it's too early to say or predict that bitcoin is dead, or will be dead. As we can see in the market, there's a lot of loss, and it's enough for some investors to think that bitcoin will die, but now it's starting to recovering, it's slowly crawling to the top again. Bitcoin is alive, and will never be dead, unless it's banned worldwide.

yes, bitcoin is recovering and I hope in this few days later, we can reach more than $8000 so we can make a good profit. bitcoin still alive and still survive no matter how hard the market and still continue to grows and reach make the highest price. bitcoin is too strong and will come back with the support from the people so don't miss the time to sell your bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: BhuwanPujari on July 24, 2018, 06:22:11 AM
Bitcoin is not DEAD and Bitcoin will not be dead in the coming days and will likely not be dead for a long time to come. If the entire internet was to be taken down globally, then potentially it could kill Bitcoin. Otherwise Bitcoin will never Die.
Nowadays Bitcoin's value has dropped but Bitcoin is going to keep growing as it has in the past.
Bitcoinis future of finance and it is here to stay.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: P60 on July 24, 2018, 06:41:26 AM
Bitcoin is alive and will always be as long as there is an internet bitcoin will not die. Only people that hate bitcoin can say that and those who didn't believe in bitcoin. They will always think negatively instead of hoping that someday they will going to have a better future.
Yes, bitcoin is still living, as a matter of fact, it is on its recovering stage. The price is slowly increasing, sooner or later, it will get high again, we just need to be patient and hold our coins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Ronaldcoin2017 on July 24, 2018, 06:46:32 AM
Bitcoin is alive and will always be as long as there is an internet bitcoin will not die. Only people that hate bitcoin can say that and those who didn't believe in bitcoin. They will always think negatively instead of hoping that someday they will going to have a better future.
Yes, bitcoin is still living, as a matter of fact, it is on its recovering stage. The price is slowly increasing, sooner or later, it will get high again, we just need to be patient and hold our coins.
Yes i agree on that it is now slowly rising and maybe in the near future we can really gain on it in the near future. I think this is now the start of bull run because the bitcoin price is rapidly rising. But i think we cannot really predict the future of it the best thing to do is to wait and hold.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: zubrr51 on July 24, 2018, 06:48:34 AM
Why so pessimistically died. It's just that the course goes like waves to the sea. Get used to, if you want to be in a trend.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: xvacator on July 24, 2018, 08:09:41 AM
Why so pessimistically died. It's just that the course goes like waves to the sea. Get used to, if you want to be in a trend.

they don't think that bitcoin can pass in this time and I think they already sold their bitcoin in a long time ago or they still get in stuck in the high price. they don't believe with bitcoin and keep saying that bitcoin will be dead soon but the truth, bitcoin still stronger and become powerful in every situation and right now, I see bitcoin price is on the way to increase higher.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: adb32ub on July 24, 2018, 08:19:01 AM
Bitcoin is alive and will always be as long as there is an internet bitcoin will not die. Only people that hate bitcoin can say that and those who didn't believe in bitcoin. They will always think negatively instead of hoping that someday they will going to have a better future.
I'm agree with you. It is a good point of view. I don't think, that it is really possible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Chorsday on July 24, 2018, 08:23:58 AM
Wait till December this year, BTC will hit USD 50,000...... (By the way, Bitcoin will never die. It was created to last forever.....)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hoping on July 24, 2018, 08:26:58 AM
Wait till December this year, BTC will hit USD 50,000...... (By the way, Bitcoin will never die. It was created to last forever.....)

True. Fiat will die, but definitely not Bitcoin! And when BTC is alive, all ALTS will stay here forever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Kittygalore on July 24, 2018, 08:34:08 AM
Wait till December this year, BTC will hit USD 50,000...... (By the way, Bitcoin will never die. It was created to last forever.....)

True. Fiat will die, but definitely not Bitcoin! And when BTC is alive, all ALTS will stay here forever.

Bitcoin will probably be the number one sooner or later. This is because of the flexibility of bitcoin in every transactions that involves it. Bitcoin really is something that may lead us to better future at the same time it will give us an easy life, moreover with bitcoin we can be more effective and efficient.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Arroware on July 24, 2018, 08:54:14 AM
I think bitcoin is not dead, because now the price is also increasing, so for us it is also an easy way to earn profit every day, so I believe that bitcoin will grow better in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Kelvinikke on July 24, 2018, 09:48:33 AM
So just because of some few moments of transactional fees that has been charged you just want to jump into conclusion that bitcoin is dead. Well for your information bitcoin is not dead and i believe it is going to get better as time goes on till it is finally used as a global currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ov3rflow9x on July 24, 2018, 11:04:44 AM
It is crazy. I was just about to send 0.2btc and i have to pay more than 0.006 fee! This is outrageous! Almost 300k unconfirmed transactions and it's not getting any better
People are so fast to make conclusions, we are almost a year from that time and it is ok for us to have their commissions and fees, probably they will go down a little bit in the future but it is ok.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Asawakobana2017 on July 24, 2018, 11:17:13 AM
It is crazy. I was just about to send 0.2btc and i have to pay more than 0.006 fee! This is outrageous! Almost 300k unconfirmed transactions and it's not getting any better
People are so fast to make conclusions, we are almost a year from that time and it is ok for us to have their commissions and fees, probably they will go down a little bit in the future but it is ok.
Yes the words dead is really worst. I think bitcoin is not going to dead anymore. In fact it is now rising verry fast. I believe that bitcoin will continue rising in the next few months, so before we are not lossing time or before its too late we need to buy more bitcoin today for good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: kissme09 on July 24, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
You probably never knew Bitcoin's Blockchain ecosystem was really bad. I once made a deal, and it stuck in the gaps for 15 days. I think we should only use Bitcoin as an asset to hoard money and should not use it for transactions because of its bad Blockchain system.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Dudeperfect on July 24, 2018, 12:17:17 PM
Well, yes the network gets chaotic sometimes but that doesn't tell anything about the future of Bitcoin. It is definitely not dead but it is getting more and more popularity day by day. I agree that high fees might cause issues in the transactions especially in the case of microtransactions but I believe that we will have a concrete solution for it soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: android17 on July 24, 2018, 12:47:34 PM
Wait till December this year, BTC will hit USD 50,000...... (By the way, Bitcoin will never die. It was created to last forever.....)

True. Fiat will die, but definitely not Bitcoin! And when BTC is alive, all ALTS will stay here forever.
What the hell is this statement? Bitcoin is still operating right now, why you always make and say fake news. Bitcoin helps many people. Investing on it gives you big profit, i dont understand why there are still many people who hates btc. Well i dont really care about you, my only concern is please stop spreading fake news about bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: KenChanYu on July 24, 2018, 01:33:37 PM
Well, yes the network gets chaotic sometimes but that doesn't tell anything about the future of Bitcoin. It is definitely not dead but it is getting more and more popularity day by day. I agree that high fees might cause issues in the transactions especially in the case of microtransactions but I believe that we will have a concrete solution for it soon.
The game is not over yet, bitcoin is only experiencing minor crash and it's not going to stay longer. It's not the first time it ever happens, but it doesn't mean it's dead. Bitcoin has been in the market for decade, it's the king of all cryptocurrencies, it has opened great opportunities, and changed the standard of living for those who trust and believe it. It's economy may be young and developing, but with bitcoin's potential, strong support system, and extraordinary performance it can't easily die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: pareshnakar on July 24, 2018, 01:37:34 PM
Many time we have transaction we have pay fees but i would say the new technologies came in the market so little bit problem but once it will start it will good performance and result.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: tintinbongs on July 24, 2018, 01:56:08 PM
Now a days when you are doing good in the market they are trying to pull you down but in the case of bitcoin no matter what they are trying to destroy bitcoin still it is on the go.  Actually the bitcoin price has today climbed above the $8,000 mark for the first time since mid-May — leading many to predict a return to the bull run that last year powered bitcoin to almost $20,000.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Saldom12 on July 24, 2018, 02:11:20 PM
wow where do you get news from thinking like this?
You don't know about bitcoin, so you think like this bitcoin is very profitable if you know it. And many also know bitcoin and some even use it, so I think bitcoin won't die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: greg0rioo on July 24, 2018, 02:15:16 PM
How stupid you are to think like this, bitcoin will never die, many people invest in bitcoin because bitcoin is very profitable. So I think bitcoin will not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: RawDog on July 24, 2018, 02:18:19 PM
You probably never knew Bitcoin's Blockchain ecosystem was really bad. I once made a deal, and it stuck in the gaps for 15 days.
If you are not a moron, there is actually a way to get it 'unstuck' and get a replacement transaction confirmed in 10 minutes.  For you, probably waiting is best.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bitzizzix on July 24, 2018, 02:25:54 PM
Only a fool would say that bitcoin will die, because I think bitcoin will be strong and will never die and even if bitcoin will die, it still takes a very long time as long as there are investors and bitcoin users and bitcoin internet network will survive.
and evidence that bitcoin has risen from the decline as its price is now rising steadily and will continue to rise.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Fandicoin on July 24, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
many conclude that bitcoin is dead, but I think maybe bitcoin will continue to grow with many investors,
especially ico will continue to grow, and a lot of fishing investors.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Gabali126 on July 24, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
Bitcoin is still very much alive. Besides, the fee is better now compared to some months ago. Most people have embraced Bitcoin transactions again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: lombok on July 24, 2018, 02:43:39 PM
Bitcoin will not die as quickly as imagined, now bitcoin has started up again. besides bitcoin is a currency that has been widely used by many countries that will continue to grow for the future. ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Losiana on July 24, 2018, 02:51:08 PM
Now the situation has changed, and transaction has become faster and cheaper. But this did not affect the price of bitcoin. Unfortunately, people lose interest in bitcoin, and this will lead to his death.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hudadahuda2018 on July 24, 2018, 03:06:51 PM
Bitcoin is not yet dead. Though its price, transaction fees and processing time is something that has been bothering me. I still believe that bitcoin will last at least 5 years.
I agree with you that bitcoin will not die while many people follow the bitcoin of both transactions and invest as long as it all goes easy, even many investors still believe in bitcoin so bitcoin stays forever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mdzahed134 on July 24, 2018, 03:13:26 PM
You facing transaction fee problem that's why you should not described BTC is Dead coin.Yeah BTC fee is really unpair i also agreed but now you can test btc price are reduced personally i observed this.BTC are growing a lot now already 8000$ touched today.20K$ will be reached very soon.     


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: alihassan99 on July 24, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
hope you see the price of bitcoin today.. so i will say bitcoin can not be easily gone..it a technology behind so nothing can kill technology.. only some other can replace :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mithon2017 on July 24, 2018, 03:18:37 PM
no.. Bitcoin is not Dead. it is impossible. although the current market is down, and most of projects is scam but Bitcoin is stable. it's not Dead.  I think, as a short time it's come back. it's be market rich up very soon. just wait and see.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Kuchiyose on July 24, 2018, 03:21:38 PM
You facing transaction fee problem that's why you should not described BTC is Dead coin.Yeah BTC fee is really unpair i also agreed but now you can test btc price are reduced personally i observed this.BTC are growing a lot now already 8000$ touched today.20K$ will be reached very soon.     

It will go slowly to see the price of Bitcoin will get better in the end of this year and we all hope for a good thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Vineeta2october on July 24, 2018, 04:14:20 PM
Bitcoin will never die

The impression it left on people, embarking the hope for a change, a better world that spark would never die
Whenever you hear about how amazing blockchain is and how changed our world, you’d think of how you heard about it first and great chances are you’d be thinking bitcoin
The people who trusted bitcoin, the loyal hodlers who found their fortunes from bitcoin and the millions inspired from their tales will never forget bitcoin
The idea is never going to die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Belec on July 24, 2018, 04:21:40 PM
Well because the fee is high that doesn't mean that bitcoin is dead.Bitcoin is worth 8000 dollars,fee is high but that is just because Bitcoin is worth a lot.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MVT_Freedom on July 24, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
When is the funeral? Will it be live-streamed also?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Belec on July 24, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
Well because the fee is high that doesn't mean that bitcoin is dead.Bitcoin is worth 8000 dollars,fee is high but that is just because Bitcoin is worth a lot.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Kelvinikke on July 24, 2018, 06:39:00 PM
I don't think so partner, bitcoin is not dead just because of some few hitches that you are talking about. I am sure you having second thoughts based on what you are seeing right now as the market keeps on rising and currently bitcoin has hit above 8k. Have some patient when it comes to bitcoin investments k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Xenoph0bia on July 25, 2018, 07:30:05 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
I don’t think that bitcoin is dead , though the valuation of bitcoin is deflating to a very low extent and I guess this is the lowest value to which the valuation of bitcoin has been deflated but still the game is still on, we all should know that the bitcoin is volatile in nature and this is the most important reason why the valuation of bitcoin flactuates and moreover many financial experts are even excited what next is going to happen with bitcoin valuation .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Adill Islam on July 25, 2018, 07:39:14 PM
Bitcoin is DEAD!
Bitcoin is the cryptocurrency that you need to hold. Not to work with it, that's my point of view. Working with Ehereum is much better. i think, If they succeed on making that, then Im seeing BTC at a million dollar....


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: teamspike911 on July 26, 2018, 12:04:35 AM
Yes-yes ... of course it's dead)
but what then is the first line in the coinmarketecap?
Dead is ... yeah


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: DoublerHunter on July 26, 2018, 12:06:40 AM
If bitcoin is dead then it is now a zombie because it is now waking up and it is now moving out from its grave and it already removes the dead sign in his grave because he is now ready to prove people that they are wrong about their accusation to bitcoin because it is now back to make people crazy from giving profits and making other people regrets of getting rid of their bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Biet12 on July 26, 2018, 12:21:35 AM
it is expensive including the transaction ,, if there is such vacancy is better avoided, if bitcoin die it will not happen because bitcoin is very good .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hasan986 on July 26, 2018, 12:26:53 AM
It will never happen as long as the crypto is in this world. Without Bitcoin, crypto can not be imagined. Although bitcoin is down for some bad news and hacking, it is currently upward. Currently it is $8100. Hopefully it will reclaim it again and return to the previous place.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: quynhnguyenlove on July 26, 2018, 03:27:56 AM
The current charge is too high and too much transaction fees are deducted


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Soots on July 26, 2018, 03:34:09 AM
It will never happen as long as the crypto is in this world. Without Bitcoin, crypto can not be imagined. Although bitcoin is down for some bad news and hacking, it is currently upward. Currently it is $8100. Hopefully it will reclaim it again and return to the previous place.

Crypto will dominate the whole world of people worldwide will adopt cryptocurrency. Bitcoin will still be patronized by many and the demand increase as it continues to rise its profitable value. When it will be legalized by most developing countries, nothin can beat bitcoin's popularity. Eventhough there's more promising altcoin, but still the trading system was btc in the end so there's no reason for bitcoin to be dead.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bananaohnana on July 26, 2018, 03:49:59 AM
Bitcoin isn't dead. It will turn out to be dead if no one utilize it,patronized it and keep on earning on it. Simply look bitcoin value still high even it drop down. Also, the estimation of bitcoin is not the same as other cryptocurrency,it won't end in only one click.The higher expenses and low exchange currently is only a reason for hollidays. A large portion of the general population are in surge even in offering their bitcoin that truly influence the bitcoin advertise however I think there is no motivation to stress over.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Leo Barnes on July 26, 2018, 04:02:37 AM
How about of today's bitcoin prices how do you call the ups and downs of its prices still DEAD? look at the 24-hour charge on the market and the volume that circulate. before concluding that bitcoin is dead


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: julielyn on July 26, 2018, 04:28:16 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.


Bitcoin is not dead, in fact, more and more digital crypto currencies are so small that bitcoin is less likely to die than bitcoin. They say bitcoin is dead.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Geemy on July 26, 2018, 05:38:48 AM
Yes, it is in the stage of death is not hope anymore, all the news is false and this is an undivided area and it is necessary to stay away from it


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ipanks on July 26, 2018, 06:03:55 AM
I think we don't have to say bitcoin is dead because of bitcoin still too strong right now and it gives a good move right now. besides that, the price now is still trying to reach the highest price although we see the price is up and down. but soon, after people believe again with bitcoin, bitcoin will give a good price for us and we can sell the bitcoin that we have at a high price. many people still support bitcoin so far and they still buy and sell bitcoin so it means, bitcoin will still alive and maybe this is a new phase for bitcoin to reach higher.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: -Sinner- on July 26, 2018, 06:14:27 AM
yep i agree, bitcoin is dead. Is dead like every single year since when it was born :D
always die and reborn with like 300% more power.. and probably this will not stop in the future ;) The potential is so massive!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mkhadazz on July 26, 2018, 06:50:01 AM
not in my opinion bitcoin can not currently die because bitcoin from day to day more platforms will receive payment using bitcoin so i'm sure bitcoin will be very difficult to die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Whibu on July 26, 2018, 07:17:42 AM
I do not think it's so easy to conclude that bitcoin is dead, because we know for ourselves that bitcoin is the king of coins and has a very high potential for the future of the financial world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: karagun125 on July 26, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
I think this will not gonna be happen although this is possible, but i think bitcoin now has a very high value to be just cut off or become dead, perhaps day by day bitcoins popularity increases.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: wahyu5 on July 26, 2018, 09:13:40 AM
As long as there are still buyers and some still sell and there are still those who hold bitcoin, meaning bitcoin will always exist and will never die. Bitcoin will always exist and maybe someday bitcoin will be able to dominate the world and become a national currency recognized by the whole world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Fujiati on July 26, 2018, 09:42:54 AM
bitcoin will not die even if market prices decline. the market price will never stabilize, there will be time for bitcoin to rise again. we must be bersbar in holding crypto currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: vonnyaries on July 26, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
maybe its because the transaction is very high, we can see in the december of 2017 tthe price of bitcoin is very high, nad i think there are many people in this world that want to sell their bitcoin or send bitcoin into another bicoin account so the confirmation time is slower than before, right now the transaction is normal from the fee, confirmation time and the other


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: tarpa07 on July 26, 2018, 09:58:04 AM
Since the security of bitcoin is so good from other currencies and all of us know about this so it should be in future. But not at the moment. Some government totally aware of this bitcoin some are in fear and others are in doubt or in process. If all government allow it for their enter and outer trade or transaction then it will be a great thing ever. So Bitcoin is not DEAD still now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: vgk88 on July 26, 2018, 10:14:29 AM
I think it's a big misconception that Bitcoin died. Bitcoin last year showed good growth and it's no surprise that we saw such a strong correction this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: lingter34 on July 26, 2018, 10:27:01 AM
Don't go on BCH, it's an old technology, it's just Bitcoin with an 8MB block, move onto real better technologies like IOTA or Byteball, don't make his game


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: bayu7adi on July 26, 2018, 10:31:04 AM
once bitcoin was once a very costly cryptocurrency, so many people do not believe in the existence of bitcoin and finally the price drops very drastically
from 20k USD to 6k USD, then slowly now bitcoin showed a positive trend, and the price started rising at the number 8k USD
and, you need to know, that BTC will not die


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Cidolfusorlandeau on July 28, 2018, 08:55:10 AM
can someone tell me one thing bright enough to make bitcoin go up again? cus I was see everything about bitcoin ability are show that bitcoin is dead definitely :-[.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: TradeParty on July 28, 2018, 10:52:50 AM
btc may be facing a bad time now. but it will come back soon. because if bit coin dies,then hole crypto currency will be in jeopardy as btc is holding the most market cap.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: InboundMercury on July 28, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
We should keep patience about bitcoin. After holding a huge market capacity, such a currency cannot be dead now. lots of people are looking towards it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MaxApple147 on July 28, 2018, 10:58:21 AM
It will be harsh to say it is dead. Though over fees and unsecured transaction is common now a days, i think developers try their best to do things right. so hold tight.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cmaxwell on July 28, 2018, 11:53:31 AM
bitcoin can not die, service charge or transaction deductions are normal in bitcoin but my concern is the increase in the rate which is not making it more friendly to investors and those trading on bitcoin. i believe the managers of this can critically look into this and find a lasting solution to it before it creates a vacuum that cannot be covered in it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: StrongImagine301 on July 29, 2018, 10:47:06 AM
i don't think bitcoin is dead. if it is dead, the crypto world will face some difficulties as btc is holding the maximum market cap and many people have bought it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: GalacticSight909 on July 29, 2018, 10:48:41 AM
Btc cannot die. may be the developer are facing some problems to control it, but this problem will solve soon and the golden days of btc will come again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: AfterHot542 on July 29, 2018, 10:50:32 AM
 I am agree with you that the current position of btc is a fact of disappointment. but it cannot die like this. i am pretty sure that btc will soon give us the good news and it will be stable soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: OutOfTheBox56 on July 29, 2018, 10:52:47 AM
Every digital thing has some issue. Btc is also a currency of crypto world. lots of people invested here after knowing that it is worth to invest. so i think we should be more patient and give it some more time to bloom perfectly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Kertmu on July 29, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
I think that Bitcoin will be a very long time leader in terms of value in the crypto-currency market, despite its shortcomings, and therefore advantages prevail.  :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Otsu on July 29, 2018, 11:20:38 AM
I don't think bitcoin is dead because as of now, more people keep coming in the world of cryptocurrency to learned and earned enough knowledge on how to involved with this. And also, it will never going to happen as this is only the beginning of crypto coins and it will be very demand soon in the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Bytem3 on July 29, 2018, 11:25:13 AM
It died a few times already :D

The Bitcoin Futures trading is at its all-time-high (https://coincodex.com/article/2088/bitcoin-futures-record-a-new-all-time-high/) atm, the interest from Wallstreet is rising and the institutional investors are waiting for the ETF to be approved. I think the Bitcoin price (https://coincodex.com/crypto/bitcoin/) will rise above $40,000 by the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: TitanGEL on July 29, 2018, 11:28:56 AM
The bitcoin is not yet die, the bitcoin is still so valuable. There are now many people who are now becoming interested to what is bitcoin and they are now aware on what its potential and its uses in our society.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: leoric251 on July 29, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
But why did you use alot of fee? that hurts alot together with your btc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Lalafell on August 01, 2018, 04:15:05 PM
I don't think bitcoin is dead because as of now, more people keep coming in the world of cryptocurrency to learned and earned enough knowledge on how to involved with this. And also, it will never going to happen as this is only the beginning of crypto coins and it will be very demand soon in the market.
Yes. Bitcoin will not dead cause more people are interested to learn about in cryptocurrency cause they want to earn more profit that's why they study to become  knowledgeable. Bitcoin now is down but the right time will come bitcoin will rise and become in demand again in the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: BTCGOLD on August 01, 2018, 04:21:31 PM
I don't think that bitcoin could be dead, if the market is stll working, and people are stll investing that means it is still has chance for up, so for me this coin will be a leader of market for some long time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Log out7181 on August 01, 2018, 07:31:11 PM
Bitcoin still does not die.Because, bitcoin is still using people.Currently there are many requirements of bitcoin.Bitcoin is now buying and selling in the market.People are constantly investing here.So, of course, I can not say that bitcoin died.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Twinscoin2017 on August 01, 2018, 07:51:07 PM
I don't think that bitcoin could be dead, if the market is stll working, and people are stll investing that means it is still has chance for up, so for me this coin will be a leader of market for some long time.
Yes it is not dead. DEAD means no value, or maybe no use at all but bitcoin has a value and many people used it day by day , so then we cannot really directly say that bitcoin is dead, because even if it will experience a huge dump, it will still really rise soon and in the near future maybe it will become a verry big thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: luckerders on August 03, 2018, 12:20:53 PM
Just because you are having a bad experience doesn’t mean the coin is dead.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Testament28 on August 03, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
DEAD?! FOR REAL?! I DON'T THINK SO... Just to clear things out, Bitcoin isn't dead and it will never be! Many haters & critics are spreading news like it. But people like us won't be fooled by them that easily. We all know bitcoin's value went down since the last quarter of last year. But that doesn't mean that it is already dead? It is quite normal that way. The law of supply and demand may affect it's price but the probability of being dead is very low. Proper knowledge is the key. Don't be fooled and research about it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: iamzill on August 03, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
bitcoin will not just die, now bitcoin will continue to grow to the best position and the best price until the end of the year. so I think if bitcoin is dying it will not happen easily.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MarioV on August 03, 2018, 01:16:18 PM
Yes it died again but I trust that once again get up and start walking again: fantasy?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: jojohamasa on August 03, 2018, 01:16:41 PM
The bitter experience experienced by the author of the topic
Made him harsh in his judgment on the future of BTC
There are actually problems with bitcoin way such as high fees and others
But everyone here believes in it future


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Datsuc13 on August 03, 2018, 01:20:28 PM
bitcoin lost 70% of its value since december. ETH lost 75% of its value since january. and we still have dellusional people like you


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: hardip567 on August 03, 2018, 01:30:40 PM
You might have seen a bad night at night Everything is fine. The market keeps going upside down


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Shiversnow on August 03, 2018, 04:20:52 PM
Bitcoin will never die it will keep increasing except it's no longer acceptable in the world.
Yes, bitcoin will never die cause they're many investors trusted to invest in bitcoin cause they know bitcoin is very popular and so many countries now are accepted bitcoin that's why I said bitcoin is alive and I think bitcoin will die if it's no longer acceptable in the world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: KingScorpio on August 03, 2018, 04:26:18 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

you guys are so damn tech fixed, there is an alternative for evolving currencies, that are opperated by an institution


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ridho002 on August 03, 2018, 04:35:31 PM
Bitcoin will never die it will keep increasing except it's no longer acceptable in the world.
Yes, bitcoin will never die cause they're many investors trusted to invest in bitcoin cause they know bitcoin is very popular and so many countries now are accepted bitcoin that's why I said bitcoin is alive and I think bitcoin will die if it's no longer acceptable in the world.

This is just a people's anxiety about the fall in the price of Bitcoin and you should be more patient to see the development of Bitcoin in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: devale on August 03, 2018, 04:36:40 PM
the time that you have posted was December and on that period so many transactions were occuring daily a number which was really unexpected. So the stucking gave us an insight that for the mass adoption btc needs more developments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: OutdoorTestDrive87 on August 05, 2018, 11:11:17 AM
I don't agree. It can not be.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: HighStreetIntent45 on August 05, 2018, 11:11:59 AM
It just a rumor. Fake news.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: FrontRow364 on August 05, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
Btc is the king of all crypto currency. If it dies the whole decentralized program will fall.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: manhhieudb4 on August 05, 2018, 11:50:46 AM

Bitcoin can not die it can only increase declines over time and market only


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Main ML on August 05, 2018, 12:01:40 PM
No way that bitoin will be dead at this short period of time specialy today that bitcoin is just only starting hes career to the real world. I know bitcoin will be more popular in the coming more years and it wont die so easily.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: aysg76 on August 05, 2018, 01:06:52 PM

Bitcoin can not die it can only increase declines over time and market only
Yeah, bitcoin can never die, not now at least as today bitcoin had gained a great reputation and is the most trusted coin in the market. With the growth in its value, bitcoin is always in a great demand and all because of this, its popularity is on a continuous increment so how can one question up its existence...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: cabitu on August 05, 2018, 01:12:54 PM
It turns out that to this day bitcoin still exists, and there are still many who believe in bitcoin and there are still many who invest in bitcoin. The price of bitcoin is starting to rise again, meaning that bitcoin still exists, and I'm sure bitcoin will never die, because if bitcoin dies, it will die as well as other coins, even by itself cryptocurrency might disappear from the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: sheryl26 on August 05, 2018, 01:18:06 PM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.

We cannot say that the bitcoins are dead by just seeing them struggling intot he market. All we can say is that the bitcoins are having a hard time dealing with their loss and dealing with the people in their surroundings. And if that hard times will gone a lot more worst that can leads into their ending but as I have noticed there are still more people who supports bitcoins rather than to neglect them and that makes the bitcoins alive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Kuchiyose on August 05, 2018, 01:28:09 PM

Bitcoin can not die it can only increase declines over time and market only
Yeah, bitcoin can never die, not now at least as today bitcoin had gained a great reputation and is the most trusted coin in the market. With the growth in its value, bitcoin is always in a great demand and all because of this, its popularity is on a continuous increment so how can one question up its existence...

The anxiety in the person who describes Bitcoin will die but it won't be easy to just happen because there are many things driving Bitcoin that won't make Bitcoin die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: mintevacuateY on August 05, 2018, 01:43:32 PM
There are transactions that I have made, which are still unconfirmed and it is crazy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: @bamaricibo on August 05, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Bitcoins will never die, if they die probably the entire crypto market will not be able to survive


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: adadaorlina on August 05, 2018, 01:55:24 PM
Bitcoin is a currency of crypto world and alots of people invested here after knowing that it is worth to invest. We know for ourselves that bitcoin is the king of coins and has a very high potential for the future of the financial world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: tanginamoo on August 05, 2018, 02:09:51 PM
Bitcoin is definitely not dead and will not die in the near future. Bitcoin has still a long run in cryptocurrency. And i doubt that the top cryptocurrency will just die right away.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: defriadi on August 05, 2018, 02:10:08 PM
I think that with your experience that is bad enough, of course it cannot be said that bitcoin will end. all there is a period and for now bitcoin still controls all coins, prices are still the highest. I think it's still stable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Maruf Nazir on August 05, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
It is not certain that Bitcoin is not alive, because Bitcoin is the world's largest producer of light, a coin that teaches people to earn money by using their intelligence. Bitakaye's price has decreased slightly, but now Bitaken is returning to pay for the work of the people and with very good value.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: wallstone on August 05, 2018, 02:38:29 PM
I don't think bitcoin is dead
bitcoin is never die, bitcoin the future of cryptocurrency and bitcoin is a good features and the best invesment for the longterm.
Yes, bitcoin is not dead cause many investors trusted to invest in bitcoin cause they know that bitcoin is good investment for our future. And the best investment that you can earn more profit is to invest in long term cause there you have big chance to become rich and successful in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: jakedeez on August 05, 2018, 05:15:19 PM
It would be interesting for me personally to count all those topics similar to this, which would say that bitcoin is dying or already dead. I think I have already seen about 15 of them, and one of those are even saying that this time for sure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Dongman2 on August 05, 2018, 05:31:28 PM
Even if it will die, it has to be gradual, its death can't come like that. Failed transactions do occur even in banks, it doesn't mean the banking sector will collapse. Bitcoin can't die. I know for sure another topic or thread will be created in 2020 to talk about bitcoin death. It has always been the same thing


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Khan Apon on August 05, 2018, 05:40:09 PM
Bitcoin is dead,  it is a fake news.
Bitcoin is World first cripto currency, and a great future maker.
Many People's are invest here seriously,  and they will make here many profits in the legal time.
So bitcoin is no dead.
Bitcoin is a future maker.                   


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: edzleochico6 on August 06, 2018, 11:59:12 AM
Bitcoin is dead? I don't think so.The better we gonna do right now is to buy bitcoin and hold it for few months until the price recover. Pump bitcoin get more  profit.We support bitcoin so it will survive.
 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: valkyrie_12Vl on August 06, 2018, 12:02:47 PM
its price surely goes down as of the moment but not that it os already dead, its only expanding the number of users therefore it would somehow be harder to gain it and maybe have less valie than before but as long as it has monetary value it still is alive. dont loose hope!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: coinnumber on August 06, 2018, 12:45:38 PM
I just notice that this thread was created on December 21, 2017, though the transaction 130 DOLLARS FEE was just too high and discouraging but that's not enough to say that bitcoin is dead. Without much explanations we all have see the progress of bitcoin since that time till now. So bitcoin is not dead and it will never die because the demands keeps going higher and the holders believed and trust it more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: poTTer666 on August 07, 2018, 12:18:34 AM
The celebrities over use the phone networks and that is what makes them dead maybe.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: TheGodFather on August 07, 2018, 12:22:20 AM
The celebrities over use the phone networks and that is what makes them dead maybe.
bitcoin is not dead until there's no news about the bitcoin. we know that the bitcoin is the mpst popular cryptocurrency all pver the world since 2009 and until now. we can't deny the fact that the bitcoin is still the number one cryptocurrency that the alternative coin are only depend in the price of the bitcoin. the bitcoin is still spreading all over the qprld, so it is not die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: XFlowZion on August 07, 2018, 01:41:33 AM
Just because of frustrations, people think bitoin is dead. That is one of the biggest problem in the bitcoin community, they thought that everything is already perfect. They should know the pros and cons of bitcoin before they start using it. They are bunch of impatient people who wants to get rich and then leave when they can't achieve it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Panunggalan on August 07, 2018, 02:27:03 AM
bitcoin will never die, bitcoin will develop and will also be more advanced, bitcoin will be more interested by many people, until whenever bitcoin will never die.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: franciscoDC on August 07, 2018, 02:41:49 AM
Currently the price of bitcoin was getting to pump,and i`m surely that before this year will end the price of it was totally recovered and its price will could be multiply into two or more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: MaryKiTy22 on August 07, 2018, 03:43:13 AM
Bitcoin is a highly addictive digital age: Millions of dollars worth of bitcoins can be sent anywhere in the world with just a few pennies paid to the diggers. This makes bitcoin more usable than btc does


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hudadahuda2018 on August 07, 2018, 04:05:40 AM
Bitcoin will never die it will keep increasing except it's no longer acceptable in the world.
I believe in your words and I also believe in bitcoin that one day bitcoin will reach a good future because bitcoin is a strong coin with any problem including that bitcoin will die.
I am sure bitcoin will last forever and there will be many supporters to reach the future of bitcoin in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on August 07, 2018, 04:16:01 AM
Bitcoin is not yet dead. Though its price, transaction fees and processing time is something that has been bothering me. I still believe that bitcoin will last at least 5 years.
Your opinion is very good and I agree with your opinion.
Yes, it is true that bitcoin is not dead, it's just that the value of bitcoin is falling but it doesn't mean bitcoin can die because in my opinion bitcoin is strong in handling problems. I'm sure bitcoin is able to overcome the problem and bitcoin energy is increasingly popular for the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Tiffany Pan 0403 on August 07, 2018, 06:11:14 AM
It is crazy world with lots of unknown things. But i think Bitcoin have good future and will not dead to be honest. totally different way currecy with before. Hope it can bulid a new world for us ~


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Erga Di Kenesis Lascrea on August 07, 2018, 06:18:25 AM
This not make sense, i transaction with btc suddenly become expensive. I dont know what's the matter with bitcoin, i think bitcoin is'n trouble


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: SB16 on August 07, 2018, 06:22:52 AM
Just look bitcoin price still high even it drop down. And the value of bitcoin is different from other cryptocurrency,it will not end in just one click. It is crazy world with lots of unknown things. I'm sure bitcoin is able to overcome the problem and bitcoin energy is increasingly popular for the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Hudadahuda2018 on August 07, 2018, 06:39:06 AM
we all are here in the same problem, but I don't think bitcoin will die just because transaction fees are very high.. if you want to sell your bitcoin, that's your chooice. I think there is still hope that transaction fees will go down again..
Actually, what makes the news wrong is that they say bitcoin will die just because the transaction costs are too high or very low in the current value of bitcoin. Decisions and like that make the bitcoin followers very mentally down or down because in the end bitcoin is actually just down the price so they declare it so bad but I'm sure bitcoin will stabilize soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Chanock on August 07, 2018, 06:39:32 AM
Bitcoin is not dead. Maybe people are telling nowadays bitcoin is dead because the price of it is unstable. But if you notice the volume of bitcoin in the market cap you will determine that bitcoin is still the strongest cryptocurrencies nowadays. Don't bother on what you see or what happens to you bitcoin instead look forward and see the good impact of bitcoin to you. Nowadays, the value of bitcoin starts to recover and rise again like happen before.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Mazda17 on August 07, 2018, 06:44:39 AM
As far as I know there's a trading company that have been hacked which affected a lot of bitcoin volume. Bitcoin is not yet dead, you knew it. It is unstable. Yet, there's still a huge possibility that it will be back next year kicking the market again.
Your opinion is very good and I agree with your current statement.
As far as I know bitcoin is hard to die because bitcoin is a strong and resistant business with any problems, let alone bitcoin is starting to spread widely in the world so the question is why does bitcoin have to die, if there are still people or countries operating using bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: PDNade on August 07, 2018, 06:59:17 AM
A couple days ago I posted here because of a transaction stuck in the void for which I paid 30 dollars fee.
Now, one hour ago, I sent a transaction with a 130 dollars fee.
ONE HOUR, STILL ZERO TRANSACTIONS, 130 DOLLARS FEE.
I'm sorry to write this, but Bitcoin is DEAD.
I've been a defender of it up until now, but we've gone too far.
Who the hell is going to buy Bitcoin when the word will spread?
When people will try to get their Bitcoins from the exchanges, they'll meet this reality, and Bitcoin will be dead in DAYS, after the word will begin spreading.
Just please don't go on BCH, let's try to move onto better technologies like Byteball.
BTW can anyone tell me what should I pay to move my Bitcoins now?
I have now 4 Bitcoins stuck in the void.
Woah maybe that was the problem in your sites only... many users now are edible to use bitcoins as a payment, trading also for exchanges in fiat and other tokens also... if you have problem regarding the transaction maybe it was in your country that are prohibited or the applications you are using just like wallet and others. Even I freely sent bitcoins to the others and convert it to fiat.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Sirnero111 on August 07, 2018, 07:16:18 AM
It is out of place to think or take bitcoin to be dead volatility is te factor that makes people think its, that does not defines cryptocurrencies. Crypto assets are known to be volatile in nature and will continue to be so. They rise and fall and BTC is no exception.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ndhdiwo234 on August 07, 2018, 07:25:09 AM
So how do I get the remaining bitcoins? Do I want to know if any of these transactions have occurred?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: shawn995 on August 07, 2018, 07:26:16 AM
It's simply stuck however it would most likely achieve your wallet, I have a similar affair where my exchange took just about multi month before it got credited at my getting wallet, another took two or three weeks previously the collector got my installment sent long back. It's simply stuck yet it would clearly come. There are some what they called quickening agent yet it didn't get any progressions the exchange speed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Destofe on August 07, 2018, 07:45:37 AM
Bitcoin is not dead as long as it will be moving forward , there is no one that can replace the value of bitcoin and we just need to say that when bitcoin will down it will rise again .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: sacred32700 on August 07, 2018, 07:48:02 AM
The people said the bitcoin is dead because the price are  going down and going down for now for the past two weeks the price are came from seven hundred dollars come up into four hundred and that's why people said the bitcoin is dead for just wait for some event it will rise up again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: Existence on August 07, 2018, 07:50:45 AM
I just don't get why people still panic every time BTC drops in price. It is a natural process: it drops, it goes up, then it may fall again, etc. And it will never die, because there are too many people who invested in it and who believe in the glittering future when it'll be possible to pay with cryptocurrencies in online stores and supermarkets :) So, it won't die, it'll only develop and expand


Title: Re: Bitcoin is DEAD
Post by: ipanks on August 07, 2018, 08:22:52 AM
I just don't get why people still panic every time BTC drops in price. It is a natural process: it drops, it goes up, then it may fall again, etc. And it will never die, because there are too many people who invested in it and who believe in the glittering future when it'll be possible to pay with cryptocurrencies in online stores and supermarkets :) So, it won't die, it'll only develop and expand

maybe they are a new people which don't have a good knowledge about bitcoin or cryptocurrency and they don't want to learn from the history. they panic when the price drops and they selling the bitcoin without want to hold any longer. they don't learn that it is always happening at any time and we need to enjoy the ride of the price so we can know when the time to buy and the time to sell. bitcoin is not dead, anyway, we can still buy bitcoin at the lower price and they will regret to sell their bitcoin at the lower price.