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Title: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: tarui on July 30, 2013, 10:05:47 AM
ok not sure if this is relevant, ever since i switched to PPLNS from PPS i've been getting quite a bit more stale shares but here's the overall figures

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tarui/avalonasic.jpg

is there something i should be concerned about?




Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: ssateneth on July 30, 2013, 10:07:25 PM
you should be happy with 0.46% stale.


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: os2sam on July 30, 2013, 10:22:35 PM
you should be happy with 0.46% stale.

Very true.

But doesn't the dupe count seem really high in proportion?


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: tarui on July 31, 2013, 12:05:07 AM
you should be happy with 0.46% stale.

All is good then. ...


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: os2sam on July 31, 2013, 12:11:57 AM
you should be happy with 0.46% stale.

All is good then. ...

Yep.

What is your mining device?


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: tarui on July 31, 2013, 12:42:51 AM
you should be happy with 0.46% stale.

All is good then. ...

Yep.

What is your mining device?

avalon batch 1


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: os2sam on July 31, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
you should be happy with 0.46% stale.

All is good then. ...

Yep.

What is your mining device?

avalon batch 1

I would say that's really good.  I thought that Avalons usually got 1to 5% stales.


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: os2sam on July 31, 2013, 09:52:34 AM
you should be happy with 0.46% stale.

All is good then. ...

Yep.

What is your mining device?

avalon batch 1

I would say that's really good.  I thought that Avalons usually got 1to 5% stales.

I'm thinking 1% to 5% Hardware Errors which you would see in the mining software.

But, .46% stale is still fine.
Sam


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: Xian01 on October 08, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
Sorry for the thread necro. What is a reasonable percentage of duplicate shares for Avalon devices ?


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: -ck on October 08, 2013, 08:16:16 PM
Dupes should be close to zero. Earlier avalon firmware had design problems that caused dupes and updating firmware should fix it.


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: fattypig on October 10, 2013, 01:17:58 AM
ok not sure if this is relevant, ever since i switched to PPLNS from PPS i've been getting quite a bit more stale shares but here's the overall figures

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tarui/avalonasic.jpg

is there something i should be concerned about?




You should be happy, I have a 2% stale share, tried many method and still won't reduce.


Title: Re: is the number of stale/duplicate shares normal?
Post by: eleuthria on October 10, 2013, 02:24:34 AM
0.46% stale is quite usual for an Avalon these days.  One thing to keep in mind is that stale rates will scale roughly in proportion with network growth rate.  So when you're at a period of 20-30% network growth rate, you can expect roughly that many more stales than normal.  So if 0.40% was your nominal rate, it may be 0.48-0.52% when network is growing rapidly.

Dupes are often firmware related, but can also be network connectivity (resubmission of a share due to lack of response in a timely manner).  I know FPGAs were big culprits of duplicates, but they weren't actually *wasted* work, it was simply that there was some kind of firmware bug that caused them to report the same nonce information in certain scenarios where no solution was found when the nonce range was depleted.

My Avalon lately has been mostly clean on dupes with later firmware, generally a completely insignificant amount.  It may be network connectivity, since my Avalon is on wireless across the house, with a microwave in the middle :P