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Title: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: somebadger on July 07, 2011, 01:01:27 AM POOL.BETCOIN.CO (http://POOL.BETCOIN.CO) >>Main pool thread (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26439.msg330673)<< Pool Status: ONLINE Pool.betcoin.co Standard Features We are a 0% FEE Pool, so you won't be wasting any of your coins to fees :) Donations are optional if you would like to support the server costs etc. We offer Long Pooling (LP) support to reduce your stale shares and increase the pool efficiency. We use Cheatproof scoring to stop those pesky pool jumpers. (PPLNS) N = 1/2 Difficulty Your Reward = ((YourShares in last N shares) / (last N shares)) * BlockValue Automatic Payouts with No fees and Manual Withdrawals are available for a 2% fee. Our Special Features Teams: You can refer people to our pool and they become a member of your team, banners/sigs are available for both your individual stats and your team stats :) By growing your team not only gets you bragging rights but also puts you in the running for a 2BTC prize ! You can find your referral link on the teams page (http://pool.betcoin.co/bitcoin-mining-teams). with more special features to come, we welcome any suggestions and feedback. Prizes / Awards / Competitions We are currently running a 4 BTC per block giveaway The Member who Find a block, get a special bonus of 2 BTC Refer the Block finder, get 2 BTC (that person is in your team) Technical Details Pool Server: Pushpoold <thread> Bitcoin Server: Client with Multithreading by JoelKatz and Minor Modifications by Somebadger <github (https://github.com/somebadger/bitcoin4pools)> Long Polling: Enabled in pushpool, added to bitcoin client.. Fast and Efficient (no need for blkmond) Database: MYSQL - Based on simplecoin, Modifications by Wayno then Advanced by Somebadger API: Available for all members, find it on your account page. Stats: Yup we got pretty graphs and stats How to Join Us Getting an account on pool.betcoin.co is easy, Simply register your account using the url http://pool.betcoin.co/register.php (http://pool.betcoin.co/register.php) or use your favorite team leaders link. Team Links look like http://pool.betcoin.co/r/1 (http://pool.betcoin.co/r/1) (thats my team link) If you dont join via a team link you will be randomly assigned to a team. Miner URL Code: http://<username>.1:x@pool.betcoin.co:8337 You can also use the Getting Started guide (http://pool.betcoin.co/gettingstarted.php) on the site Any questions or suggestions feel free to use this thread or pm me. Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: WillMitchell on July 07, 2011, 08:36:56 AM POOL.BETCOIN.CO (http://POOL.BETCOIN.CO) >>Main pool thread (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26439.msg330673)<< Pool Status: ONLINE Pool Setup:
How to Join Us: Getting an account on pool.betcoin.co is easy, Simply register your account using the url http://pool.betcoin.co/register.php (http://pool.betcoin.co/register.php) Miner URL: Code: http://<username>.1:x@pool.betcoin.co:8337 Any questions or suggestions feel free to use this thread or pm me. Good luck Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 07, 2011, 09:42:48 AM thanks :)
Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: linkme on July 07, 2011, 01:12:18 PM I'm rockin 1st palce :) 1600~MH
Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 07, 2011, 04:36:42 PM I'm rockin 1st palce :) 1600~MH and bouncing up to 1700MH, thanks for contributing to the pool, good luck on finding the block for the bonus :) Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: 1MLyg5WVFSMifFjkrZiyGW2nw on July 07, 2011, 06:33:17 PM Quote Our 10 Onion Winners (Active this Round) Rank User Name % Of Stales 1 SLICE 107.69% Top 30 Lifetime Shares Rank User Name Shares 10 SLICE -2 How is that possible? EDIT: up to 176%, -32 shares also pwner has no shares but 50% stale already broken? Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: igl00 on July 07, 2011, 08:44:51 PM ive made accont on that pool also, dont know answers about beein broekn but my shares are counted fine in panel
somebadger can u elaborate? Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 07, 2011, 11:26:54 PM we have updated all the stats, most stats will not be acurate until we find a block as they have no reference point
you dont have to worry, you will still be paid for any valid shares you contribute as these are added up once the block is found. Also when we start a new block all the stats will be correct. Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: forzendiablo on July 08, 2011, 02:35:24 AM sounds valid to me!
ill keep mining the pool and btw design is GREAT amd love to see stats of everybody as its now :) Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: 1MLyg5WVFSMifFjkrZiyGW2nw on July 08, 2011, 04:51:20 AM we have updated all the stats, most stats will not be acurate until we find a block as they have no reference point you dont have to worry, you will still be paid for any valid shares you contribute as these are added up once the block is found. Also when we start a new block all the stats will be correct. Yes, I understand that. Still seems a bit strange, especially with the negative shares. SLICE now has -230, do you plan on collecting that debt? ;) I'm slowpoke btw, and I'll keep mining in this pool at least until we find a block... Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 08, 2011, 06:06:59 AM Yes, I understand that. Still seems a bit strange, especially with the negative shares. SLICE now has -230, do you plan on collecting that debt? ;) I'm slowpoke btw, and I'll keep mining in this pool at least until we find a block... lol, slice has -230 because he submitted 230 stale shares (he could be someone looking to abuse the pool but failed :P) because he didnt submit any non stale shares he gets -230 if he had submitted even 1 good share the stats would read 1. I could be wrong and he simply had issues with his client, cpu or gpu but to submit nothing but stale shares sounds fishy. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if he came back and submitted some good shares :) Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: urstroyer on July 08, 2011, 02:05:23 PM Your Frontend is telling me this:
Round Shares: 233958 shares How the hell is this possible? Rank 1 member produced 25838 shares. Even if i add all other miner in your pool to this number, it seems to be broken. I calculated a difference by 150k shares. Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 09, 2011, 12:41:10 AM Your Frontend is telling me this: Round Shares: 233958 shares How the hell is this possible? Rank 1 member produced 25838 shares. Even if i add all other miner in your pool to this number, it seems to be broken. I calculated a difference by 150k shares. as it says at the top of the page Quote from: TheTopOfTheOfficialPage NOTE: We are upgrading the stats area, More accurate stats will be available once we solve a block !! NB. You will always be paid for valid shares. Shares are calculated after a valid block is found to determine your payout. when we upgraded the stats system it set the leaderboards to 0, the total shares value is correct ! and all shares by each user are not lost they are just not displayed on the stats page until we find a block, as this will reset the cache and have a reference point. So in short.. Your shares are safe, you will ALWAYS be paid for ANY VALID SHARES. Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: linkme on July 10, 2011, 06:00:37 AM so the leaderboard reset we had the other day doesnt effect the previous shares i submitted ? is it purely aesthetic ?
Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 10, 2011, 06:37:02 AM so the leaderboard reset we had the other day doesnt effect the previous shares i submitted ? is it purely aesthetic ? that is correct, the system has not lost any of your shares, you have nothing to worry about. it is only the leaderboard that was reset. Once we find our 1st block all stats will be correct :) Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: forzendiablo on July 10, 2011, 07:41:59 PM im mining lets find first block asap ;)
Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 11, 2011, 01:48:33 AM We are upgrading bitcoind and pushpoold to the latest builds, we will have a downtime of upto 2 minutes
UPDATE: Update is complete, pool is running on the latest versions :) Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 11, 2011, 07:07:15 AM we now have teams :) and forum images, http://pool.betcoin.co/bitcoin-mining-teams (http://pool.betcoin.co/bitcoin-mining-teams)
if anyone was referred by someone else, let me know and i'll move you to the appropriate team. We will have competitions with the teams soon UPDATE we now have team images too. An example is my sig Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: forzendiablo on July 11, 2011, 11:41:18 AM wow nice ideas here bro
Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: linkme on July 11, 2011, 12:28:57 PM wow nice ideas here bro yeah i'm loving the teams thingy, everyone should sign up under me :P I'd like to know what kind of comps are on their way though ?? i guess we need to get the 1st block behind us then we will see ? Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: igl00 on July 11, 2011, 11:17:44 PM yep very good pool so far. lets see when we find block hows that gonna go!
Title: Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found Post by: somebadger on July 12, 2011, 06:03:39 AM Ive had some feedback on the 1% initial fee going to the winer of the 1st block and ive decided to scrap the fee alltogether, instead i'm donating 4BTC to the pool in the following way:
2 BTC to the person who finds the block 2 BTC to the team leader of the person who finds the block Good luck guys, the more ppl u bring (use your link) the higher chance u have of getting the 2BTC team leader prize :) Title: Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: ManOfKnight on July 12, 2011, 11:37:20 AM How do I add my buddy Widgets to my team? I invited him before teams started and he is running pool.betcoin.co daily on his 5870.
Title: Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: somebadger on July 12, 2011, 11:37:58 AM How do I add my buddy Widgets to my team? I invited him before teams started and he is running pool.betcoin.co daily on his 5870. already done, see the other thread :P Title: Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: ManOfKnight on July 12, 2011, 11:43:58 AM Thanks SomeBadger for taking care of that for me.
A few of my other buddies are still on the fence until we find a coin. I told them that another 1.5-2Gh/s would help the pool tremendously. Title: Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: somebadger on July 12, 2011, 12:24:45 PM Thanks SomeBadger for taking care of that for me. A few of my other buddies are still on the fence until we find a coin. I told them that another 1.5-2Gh/s would help the pool tremendously. Yeah lots more people will come once we solve a block, but we need more people to solve the block quicker, its a catch 22 :P ps. u cant have an image in your sig till u make 50 posts ;) Title: Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: ManOfKnight on July 12, 2011, 02:39:45 PM I noticed that...I tried to add my image that you placed on the betcoin.co website...too bad.
Title: Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: somebadger on July 13, 2011, 11:27:42 AM I noticed that...I tried to add my image that you placed on the betcoin.co website...too bad. you can still use your referral link that gets members into your team :) Title: Re: [~9 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: bcheck555 on July 13, 2011, 12:28:15 PM Please comment on your "Cheatproof" scoring? Meni's system?
Title: Re: [~9 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: somebadger on July 13, 2011, 12:40:33 PM Please comment on your "Cheatproof" scoring? Meni's system? http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26613.msg357208#msg357208 (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26613.msg357208#msg357208) Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: badfrog on July 13, 2011, 12:48:34 PM Im on it, and Leading the Scoreboard on the 2nd Place :D
Greetings, Frog Title: Re: [~9 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: bcheck555 on July 13, 2011, 01:11:15 PM Please comment on your "Cheatproof" scoring? Meni's system? http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26613.msg357208#msg357208 (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26613.msg357208#msg357208) So some type of implementation of Meni's anti-cheat system as described here: http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=4787.0 This was the the system used at the now defunct continuum pool. What values are you using for c and f? If it's the same method I may move my miners over. Thanks. Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses Post by: linkme on July 13, 2011, 01:27:40 PM Im on it, and Leading the Scoreboard on the 2nd Place :D Greetings, Frog just wait till i get my new riser cables, i'll be back ontop,... come on postage ! Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: nihilista on July 14, 2011, 10:29:12 AM Joined this pool about a week ago. UI is cool and it's exciting waiting for the first block ;)
¿Somebody knows of app for android to check the pool? Thanks Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: somebadger on July 14, 2011, 10:41:56 AM Joined this pool about a week ago. UI is cool and it's exciting waiting for the first block ;) ¿Somebody knows of app for android to check the pool? Thanks not off the top of my head, but i could make a very basic status page to check in your browser, or if you have an app that can read json you can always use the pool api also guys feel free to comment on the betting idea in the other thread ( http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26613.msg362194#msg362194 ) Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: deepceleron on July 14, 2011, 09:27:42 PM So the banner ad of somebadger says 'my team of 45 is doing 5232 Mh', and ad of linkme says 'my team of 3 is doing 2469', and the total pool stats are: Current Workers: 12, Current Hashrate: 8.9 GH/s, no blocks found. Not looking so good after nine days.
"You have to start somewhere", but maybe get rid of the teams, the rankings, the banner signatures with referral links, the gambling name, and the 2% fee for withdraws when there is something to withdraw. Then you still have to entice people to join, when their contribution in solving the first block will be diluted by the 700,000 shares in the first round already added by miners who have come and gone. Another recently started pool was knocking out four blocks a day at ten days in, by not looking shady. The only pool I think is missing from the marketplace is a low-fee PPS pool. I think people would respond quickly to a pool with no concept of solving a block, stats, teams, bonuses, referrals, lotteries, 'triple your earnings', etc. To the user, they sign up, start submitting shares, every share earns them 0.0000319 BTC, the balance starts going up immediately, and they can press the withdraw button any time and receive it all for a .001 BTC fee. The web site can be white with black text, too. Just don't try starting this unless you have 500 BTC bankroll to insure against the worst-case variability. Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: somebadger on July 14, 2011, 11:10:03 PM "You have to start somewhere", but maybe get rid of the teams, the rankings, the banner signatures with referral links, the gambling name, and the 2% fee for withdraws when there is something to withdraw. Then you still have to entice people to join, when their contribution in solving the first block will be diluted by the 700,000 shares in the first round already added by miners who have come and gone. Another recently started pool was knocking out four blocks a day at ten days in, by not looking shady. Why remove the teams, rankings, and banner sigs ? if people dont want to use them then dont. re the fee, this is only for manual withdrawal, you can always use automatic for free and thats processed twice per day. you could even use it as manual if you wanted ie. set auto payout to 100000BTC then when u want to withdraw set it to 1btc the manual fee is a rushed version where i have to wakeup/come to the computer and manually process it, hence the fee. Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: deepceleron on July 15, 2011, 03:19:19 AM "You have to start somewhere", but maybe get rid of the teams, the rankings, the banner signatures with referral links, the gambling name, and the 2% fee for withdraws when there is something to withdraw. Then you still have to entice people to join, when their contribution in solving the first block will be diluted by the 700,000 shares in the first round already added by miners who have come and gone. Another recently started pool was knocking out four blocks a day at ten days in, by not looking shady. Why remove the teams, rankings, and banner sigs ? if people dont want to use them then dont. re the fee, this is only for manual withdrawal, you can always use automatic for free and thats processed twice per day. you could even use it as manual if you wanted ie. set auto payout to 100000BTC then when u want to withdraw set it to 1btc the manual fee is a rushed version where i have to wakeup/come to the computer and manually process it, hence the fee. Teams: gives the impression some teams win and other teams lose, with the new member on the losing side Rankings: Having it there shows that one should value it. It can only discourage membership of those who would expect not to place on the list, or those that expected to but don't. Banners: Are referral links, encouraging more forum spam I get to ad block. When referrals are rewarded, they are rewarded out of the profitability of others, so if I see the obvious referral link, I'm not clicking. Betcoin: What am I betting on? Does the house always win? Another pyramid scheme? All of these make me want to join the pool as much as a slick talker in a plaid suit makes me want to buy a used car. Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: somebadger on July 15, 2011, 07:19:00 AM Teams: gives the impression some teams win and other teams lose, with the new member on the losing side Rankings: Having it there shows that one should value it. It can only discourage membership of those who would expect not to place on the list, or those that expected to but don't. Banners: Are referral links, encouraging more forum spam I get to ad block. When referrals are rewarded, they are rewarded out of the profitability of others, so if I see the obvious referral link, I'm not clicking. Betcoin: What am I betting on? Does the house always win? Another pyramid scheme? All of these make me want to join the pool as much as a slick talker in a plaid suit makes me want to buy a used car. Teams: are only there for a 2 BTC Bonus ONTOP of the current block, so no-one is loosing except me with the teams since i have to pay 4BTC per block in bonuses Rankings: there is no harm in a bit of a pissing contest :P If you dont like it dont join Banners: banners are images not links ;) users can also choose to use the team link if they like. Referals only help drive people to help get the pool more registrations, and the rewards do not cost anyone anything (except me like i said b4) Betcion: you dont have to bet on anything, its just a domain i had that i thought i would use. But we are thinking of having some fun and games with some betting using your current share balance but if you dont want to bet and just want to mine like any other pool, thats fine with me. Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: whonesta on July 15, 2011, 08:02:24 PM Why are rejects SO high on your pool? 2 - 300 MH/s miners on Deepbit get < 1% stale, yet on Betcoin getting upwards of 20% stale. Check out my team stats as they are public.. Would like to figure this out as I do like the concept of a smaller pool.. ???
Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: somebadger on July 16, 2011, 03:25:48 AM Why are rejects SO high on your pool? 2 - 300 MH/s miners on Deepbit get < 1% stale, yet on Betcoin getting upwards of 20% stale. Check out my team stats as they are public.. Would like to figure this out as I do like the concept of a smaller pool.. ??? does your client support long poling ? What are your current settings ? Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: forzendiablo on July 18, 2011, 11:37:43 PM somebadger im mining ur poo lall time due to great speeds of users and even the stupid reason [graphic o_0] but make sure everything works for other users also. i have good rates!
Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: dub0matic on July 23, 2011, 09:12:05 AM pool looks interesting just joined but cant get my worker connected i get this error : Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 0 2
using guiminer win7 64x thx Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: nihilista on July 23, 2011, 11:47:32 AM My workers stopped getting new work at 11:35 CEST
Right now, according to the pool stats only somebadger is working http://pool.betcoin.co/stats.php ¿some planned maintenance? Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: 1MLyg5WVFSMifFjkrZiyGW2nw on July 23, 2011, 10:00:44 PM Pool seems to be down, strange that the website is working
And we're having bad luck finding that first block :-\ Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: somebadger on July 24, 2011, 11:28:10 PM My workers stopped getting new work at 11:35 CEST Right now, according to the pool stats only somebadger is working http://pool.betcoin.co/stats.php ¿some planned maintenance? I was doing some testing of the latest build of the bitcoin server, we have now moved to the new version, sorry for the downtime. we have now placed auto starting backup ports into effect for when the main server goes down. we have been running on this new version for almost 24 hours now without any issues :) Title: Re: [~10 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Newbie Support Thread Post by: somebadger on August 04, 2011, 06:27:04 AM UPDATE: We have created a little Status Application
We have created a small application so you can monitor your workers and the current bitcoin price all in an easy location :) Current Features:
Snatch up this little gem on our homepage ScreenShot: http://pool.betcoin.co/images/ScreenShot.jpg |
