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Title: windows or linux
Post by: car1999 on January 05, 2018, 10:06:53 AM
I'm a big fan of linux, all of my rigs were running linux(ubuntu, nvOC), I believed that linux was cheaper, more stable, more efficiency, easer to management etc. Recently I built a couple of windows rigs because amd rx vega cards require windows to reach best performance, I also built a windows nvidia gtx 1080ti rig, then I realize that windows is better for mining.

1.It's free, doesn't need to be actived.
2.It's stable, never run into issues. nvidia-smi sometimes hang on my linux rigs, but it never happened on the windows rigs. I have a bot calls nvidia-smi every 5 minutes and report GPU temp to a server.
3.It's as easy as linux to be managed, use teamviewer and openssh.
4.It's more firendly to newbie.
5.Some great miners are windows only, for example hsrminer.

I'm considering switching all of my rigs from linux to windows, what do you think about it?


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Sledge0001 on January 05, 2018, 10:13:39 AM
The vast selection of overclocking and remote access tools available plus the ultra simple setup of a windows based rig to me wins hands down.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: leonix007 on January 05, 2018, 10:42:17 AM
I'm a big fan of linux, all of my rigs were running linux(ubuntu, nvOC), I believed that linux was cheaper, more stable, more efficiency, easer to management etc. Recently I built a couple of windows rigs because amd rx vega cards require windows to reach best performance, I also built a windows nvidia gtx 1080ti rig, then I realize that windows is better for mining.

1.It's free, doesn't need to be actived.
2.It's stable, never run into issues. nvidia-smi sometimes hang on my linux rigs, but it never happened on the windows rigs. I have a bot calls nvidia-smi every 5 minutes and report GPU temp to a server.
3.It's as easy as linux to be managed, use teamviewer and openssh.
4.It's more firendly to newbie.
5.Some great miners are windows only, for example hsrminer.

I'm considering switching all of my rigs from linux to windows, what do you think about it?

From the considerations stated, I guess you've probably have chosen windows, all of my rigs run on windows actually and no complained about it. if you've still some doubts then I think convert some of your Rigs first, Observed and decide.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: zukko on January 05, 2018, 10:50:19 AM
My farm is running windows, no problems.
And the choice of miners for windows is much broader.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: ronnylov on January 05, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
I use Arch Linux on Everything. But that's mostly because it is what I am used to.
I don't like using Windows. Interesting that Vega has bad Linux performance.
OK I won't buy Vega then.

I have not had any issues with nvidia and mining on Linux.
It's more like a hobby for me. If it's not fun I won't do it.
Windows is not fun for me so that's why I don't use it.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: ajqjjj on January 05, 2018, 12:11:30 PM
I use Arch Linux on Everything. But that's mostly because it is what I am used to.
I don't like using Windows. Interesting that Vega has bad Linux performance.
OK I won't buy Vega then.

I have not had any issues with nvidia and mining on Linux.
It's more like a hobby for me. If it's not fun I won't do it.
Windows is not fun for me so that's why I don't use it.

My GPU rig is running with in the Windows platform and it does not give trouble to me. I do not found any crash in the time of power cut as well. I too like the linux platform and most of the miners who is choosing for mining with the linux to avoid the crash report we use to get in the other platforms. Currently I am mining with the nividia 1070 cards 6 numbers in the windows platform and I overclocked it. It goes perfect.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Lancusters on January 05, 2018, 12:21:35 PM
I also use Windows on my rigs. For me it is easier and more convenient. If you need help setting up a Windows offers wider possibilities and more professionals who can help you. Linux is more robust but this advantage does not apply to the mining equipment. For mining more promising Windows.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Bakhtra on January 05, 2018, 12:28:41 PM
Windows free too, who said we need to pay for windows? only HOMO that pay his windows. All my windows rigs are stable for months. I think windows much better than Linux, see amd driver, miner, most of it in windows, for Linux you need to wait more time. So why stick to LINUX?


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Baxta on January 05, 2018, 12:30:27 PM
I think that the choice depends on what kind of coin you mine.
for example. I mine the Minexcoin. In program optiminer 2.1.0. for linux ubuntu 64, GPU mines in 10 times more efficiently then Windows.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: rmh01 on January 05, 2018, 01:35:57 PM
I'm absolutely with linux.
Windows is easy yes, but when any problems are encountered, it's a joke. Windows hides  the errors, shows unusable error information, logging is also quite unusable. The only case when i consider windows is when using polaris cards.
With linux, you can make a living infrastructure in a terminal far away from the rigs. One rig crashes, signals to other rigs then shutdowns, other rig waiting a bit then broadcasts wakeonlan packets etc. No need for utilities, desktop displaying, no need for a monitor even for the first boot after install and if you flash an installed os image to disk, not even once needed.
Log files can be grep-ed, any outputs can be piped to anywhere, any program can be daemonized and still just one terminal needed.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: 77JohnDoe77 on January 05, 2018, 01:43:55 PM
i never use linux so i dont know which better
all my rigs run on windows and till now i dont find problem or trouble with windows so i stay


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: ronnylov on January 05, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
Windows free too, who said we need to pay for windows? only HOMO that pay his windows. All my windows rigs are stable for months. I think windows much better than Linux, see amd driver, miner, most of it in windows, for Linux you need to wait more time. So why stick to LINUX?

Free as in free beer but not free as in Liberty is a well known wording.
But don't you need to pay to get a legal Windows license?


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Baxta on January 09, 2018, 10:04:01 AM
i never use linux so i dont know which better
all my rigs run on windows and till now i dont find problem or trouble with windows so i stay

but if you were told that your liner miners could get x2, x5, x10 more than on Windows? Would you decide then to try to mine on Linux?


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Bakhtra on January 09, 2018, 01:18:56 PM
i never use linux so i dont know which better
all my rigs run on windows and till now i dont find problem or trouble with windows so i stay

but if you were told that your liner miners could get x2, x5, x10 more than on Windows? Would you decide then to try to mine on Linux?
If that's really the case, why more people using windows instead Linux?


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: dejan_p on January 09, 2018, 01:24:12 PM
i tend to have both OSes on each machine
for amd, it is a hassle to underclock, etc, but from time to time, a linux miner and coin combination appear out of nowhere when profitability is 2-5x higher...so it's worth it
for nvidia, no problems on underclocking

so i would suggest to have both of them up and ready

@Bakhtra ..i can understand if they don't have the skills, but they're lazy. so many tutorials out there.
everytime there is a linux miner that gives more hash than in windows, you can see 90% of the posts in that "windows binary please" "when windows version" "+1 win version" .. and with all our "dude, follow this tutorial step by step" (which are really good and made for idi**s), but still no..


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Tidsdilatation on January 09, 2018, 01:37:06 PM
I use windows, my only concern are the god damn Windows updates... After every one, my rig seems to get a new big problem. Normally its GPUs missing, but have been other shit aswell. Once or twice i had to format the entire rig. Stay away from the updates!


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: flip4flop on January 09, 2018, 02:04:28 PM
You can run Windows for free just have limited customization options which you don’t need for mining anyway. There is nothing wrong with running either one just depends on what you are more comfortable with and works for you.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: gotminer on January 09, 2018, 03:39:20 PM
I use windows, my only concern are the god damn Windows updates... After every one, my rig seems to get a new big problem. Normally its GPUs missing, but have been other shit aswell. Once or twice i had to format the entire rig. Stay away from the updates!

You can completely disable windows updates in gpedit on Win10.  Other versions you don't even have to do it in gpedit. 


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Rasanders22 on January 09, 2018, 03:48:05 PM
i never use linux so i dont know which better
all my rigs run on windows and till now i dont find problem or trouble with windows so i stay

but if you were told that your liner miners could get x2, x5, x10 more than on Windows? Would you decide then to try to mine on Linux?
If that's really the case, why more people using windows instead Linux?

Ease of use, familiarity would be my guess. I use Linux everyday at work, plus other OS's that most people have never heard of and it still takes several hours to get a Linux box mining
Linux:
get AMD/NVIDIA drivers
get newest cmake version
get newest g++ compilier
compile AMD/NVIDIA drivers
disable X
blacklist X from loading
download miner
compile miner

finally can mine, but only after having to google how to do each of these steps and spend hours on stack overflow searching every error that comes while installing

Windows:
get AMD/NVIDIA drivers
install drivers
download miner
start miner





Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: NameTaken on January 09, 2018, 03:54:55 PM
i never use linux so i dont know which better
all my rigs run on windows and till now i dont find problem or trouble with windows so i stay

but if you were told that your liner miners could get x2, x5, x10 more than on Windows? Would you decide then to try to mine on Linux?
If that's really the case, why more people using windows instead Linux?

Ease of use, familiarity would be my guess. I use Linux everyday at work, plus other OS's that most people have never heard of and it still takes several hours to get a Linux box mining
Linux:
get AMD/NVIDIA drivers
get newest cmake version
get newest g++ compilier
compile AMD/NVIDIA drivers
disable X
blacklist X from loading
download miner
compile miner

finally can mine, but only after having to google how to do each of these steps and spend hours on stack overflow searching every error that comes while installing

Windows:
get AMD/NVIDIA drivers
install drivers
download miner
start miner

Install Nvidia, Fglrx, and AMDGPU-PRO packages from distro repo or PPA.
Compiling Nvidia driver kernel module with DKMS is only necessary if running a custom kernel.
Flgrx and AMDGPU-PRO will pull down the default build dependencies if not already installed.
You need an X server to be running to change clocks, voltage and fan with Nvidia and Fglrx.
Most miners are closed source and you download a binary.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Baxta on January 11, 2018, 12:54:43 PM
i never use linux so i dont know which better
all my rigs run on windows and till now i dont find problem or trouble with windows so i stay

but if you were told that your liner miners could get x2, x5, x10 more than on Windows? Would you decide then to try to mine on Linux?
If that's really the case, why more people using windows instead Linux?

Main reasons:
1. Because it's much more difficult to configure mining on Linux.
2. Many simply do not know the advantages of Linux in the mining.
3. Mining of not all coins gives the advantage in Linux x3-x10


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Baxta on January 11, 2018, 01:00:41 PM
I use windows, my only concern are the god damn Windows updates... After every one, my rig seems to get a new big problem. Normally its GPUs missing, but have been other shit aswell. Once or twice i had to format the entire rig. Stay away from the updates!
You can disable Windows updates. At me when I still used for mining Windows, at updatings, my farms were turned off.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: killerelite on January 11, 2018, 02:24:05 PM
In my own opinion windows is a whole lot easier for newbies and there are much more tutorials for windows available and its easier to setup moniotor and control but thats just my bised opinion cause I couldnt setup linux remote monitor and some why my miners got curropted after some power failures so keep all my rigs on windows , got many free keys due to university :p


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Baxta on January 17, 2018, 06:56:40 AM
In my own opinion windows is a whole lot easier for newbies and there are much more tutorials for windows available and its easier to setup moniotor and control but thats just my bised opinion cause I couldnt setup linux remote monitor and some why my miners got curropted after some power failures so keep all my rigs on windows , got many free keys due to university :p

I think with any system you can understand it would be the desire and motivation. Especially when there is an Internet and search engines at hand. The main thing is not to be lazy.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: MarkAz on January 17, 2018, 11:10:15 AM
I've run both - and there's pluses and minuses to each.  It used to be that the big advantage to Windows was driver support, but they're much closer these days.  Maintaining a bunch of machines is much easier if it's linux (IMO), and it tends to be much more light-weight in terms of disk size and memory footprint.  The biggest plus I think with Linux is a bit of a one-time thing, but I can have a new system up and mining from the same image, even if I change motherboards, etc - I have 3 classes of machines in my mine, and they all run the same Linux image.  With Windows you need a different one for each machine, and on system you have to wait for it to detect all the cards, which depending on how many you have can take a while.

That being said, if you're more comfortable with Windows then do it - there's also more 'exotic' things for Windows, like better profit-switching software, etc.  But then on the Linux side you have about a bunch of different custom miner OS versions and even more forks.

In the end it's Linux for me - just easier to deal with, but I also run my own OS image, I don't run any of the ones others have released, although I've played with them.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: MarkAz on January 17, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
I'm considering changing my Windows OS to something line Hive OS - anyone tried it?

It's next on my list to play with, I really like what they've done with their HTML interface, and their ability to group machines, etc - looks slick.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Corsa1r on January 17, 2018, 01:06:32 PM
Well, I use linux for everything except my mining rigs :D

Biggest reason was I tweaked a lot and undervolt and underclock to get most energy efficient settings and that was easy to get into on windows, when I found best config I saw no reason to flash cards and install linux, I just kept mining as is because why change when it works, well, most of the time works :D


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: btcneodev on January 17, 2018, 01:11:57 PM
I see no problem with linux, you must also compare resources usage for linux and windows, obviously windows uses more and it could lead to more power drawn. Anyway I still prefer linux, maybe you can try to compile those great miner to linux by yourself.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: patofet on January 17, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
I tried both systems, if you have time to configure linux with no dub but if you want a fast configuration windows


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Baxta on January 18, 2018, 07:08:20 AM
I've run both - and there's pluses and minuses to each.  It used to be that the big advantage to Windows was driver support, but they're much closer these days.  Maintaining a bunch of machines is much easier if it's linux (IMO), and it tends to be much more light-weight in terms of disk size and memory footprint.  The biggest plus I think with Linux is a bit of a one-time thing, but I can have a new system up and mining from the same image, even if I change motherboards, etc - I have 3 classes of machines in my mine, and they all run the same Linux image.  With Windows you need a different one for each machine, and on system you have to wait for it to detect all the cards, which depending on how many you have can take a while.

That being said, if you're more comfortable with Windows then do it - there's also more 'exotic' things for Windows, like better profit-switching software, etc.  But then on the Linux side you have about a bunch of different custom miner OS versions and even more forks.

In the end it's Linux for me - just easier to deal with, but I also run my own OS image, I don't run any of the ones others have released, although I've played with them.


You probably have a very big skill in Linux, I never used Linux until the moment when I did not know that using the optiminer program for Linux, I can mine up to 10 times more (I'm not kidding). This was the decisive argument and I installed Linux ubuntu, though I still figured out how to run the optiminer program with the system startup.


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: unique83 on January 18, 2018, 07:59:09 AM
Which coin can you mine 10 times better on linux than on windows and what cards do you use?
Can you mine zcash with nvidia 10 times better?


Title: Re: windows or linux
Post by: Jr.Sasha0209 on January 18, 2018, 11:53:16 AM
You can run Windows for free just have limited customization options which you don’t need for mining anyway. There is nothing wrong with running either one just depends on what you are more comfortable with and works for you.

I use Windows in all my farms, until questions arise, although they say that Linux is much better in the mining! Perhaps the other day I will collect new farms and already put the linux! 8) 8)