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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: chriswilmer on August 19, 2013, 03:52:18 AM



Title: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: chriswilmer on August 19, 2013, 03:52:18 AM
That would be pretty great if that's what ended up happening. Instead of closing the USD/BTC loop, the spread between LTC/BTC would equalize across Mt. Gox and BTC-e, and then people could withdraw fiat from BTC-e (assuming that's easier than Mt. Gox).

This thought just occurred to me so maybe I am skipping over an important detail....


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: spoorancher on August 19, 2013, 04:14:35 AM
What you are missing is that the spread is not due to the relative value of the Bitcoins, it's due to the relative value of the $.


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: joesmoe2012 on August 19, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
What you are missing is that the spread is not due to the relative value of the Bitcoins, it's due to the relative value of the $.

or lack of value of GoxUSD as it cost 20% to withdraw.


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: NewLiberty on August 19, 2013, 11:50:57 AM
What you are missing is that the spread is not due to the relative value of the Bitcoins, it's due to the relative value of the $.

or lack of value of GoxUSD as it cost 20% to withdraw.

That would pump the Gox valuation of litecoin at the expense of its bitcoin valuation.  That would be very bullish for litecoin.


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: joesmoe2012 on August 19, 2013, 11:54:15 AM
What you are missing is that the spread is not due to the relative value of the Bitcoins, it's due to the relative value of the $.

or lack of value of GoxUSD as it cost 20% to withdraw.

That would pump the Gox valuation of litecoin at the expense of its bitcoin valuation.  That would be very bullish for litecoin.

The LTC value @ gox would just end up being 20% higher than everywhere else as well. IT's a Fiat IN/Fiat OUT problem.


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: NewLiberty on August 19, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
What you are missing is that the spread is not due to the relative value of the Bitcoins, it's due to the relative value of the $.

or lack of value of GoxUSD as it cost 20% to withdraw.

That would pump the Gox valuation of litecoin at the expense of its bitcoin valuation.  That would be very bullish for litecoin.

The LTC value @ gox would just end up being 20% higher than everywhere else as well. IT's a Fiat IN/Fiat OUT problem.

We agree, but for the "just" characterization. :)


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: dnaleor on August 19, 2013, 02:04:49 PM
It would indeed open a second market to people who want to get rid of their goxed USD.
So the gox price of BTC would go down a little, until the LTC price has risen to +10 (maybe 20) % above the BTCe LTC price...


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: NewLiberty on August 19, 2013, 06:50:24 PM
It would indeed open a second market to people who want to get rid of their goxed USD.
So the gox price of BTC would go down a little, until the LTC price has risen to +10 (maybe 20) % above the BTCe LTC price...
Well stated.


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on August 19, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
It would indeed open a second market to people who want to get rid of their goxed USD.
So the gox price of BTC would go down a little, until the LTC price has risen to +10 (maybe 20) % above the BTCe LTC price...
Depends, are there a decent amount of people (or 1 rich  one :-) ) willing to sell their LTC at gox at <20% premium?


Title: Re: If Mt.Gox opens litecoin trading, could that suddenly eliminate the $15+ spread?
Post by: superduh on August 20, 2013, 12:59:55 AM
hard to transfer cash between exchanges - easy to transfer bticoins/litecoins - arbitrage opportunity will begin decreasing. end of story.