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Title: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 19, 2013, 08:56:26 PM
As a warning to any users of localbitcoins.com, as scammer attempted to steal 55 BTC from me today.

They claimed to be buying bitcoins, and wanted to use the "transaction service".  Once the transaction was funded they tried to convince me to "send a picture of our contact/trade page for verification purposes".

When I ignored that request, they followed up with a phone call and played dumb about the "release code".  They just wanted me to send a picture of the page so they could verify.  They didn't think having a picture of a green release button would be a problem.

I explained why I couldn't.  Then I sent them a carefully framed image that had the release code cropped out.

They claimed they were on there way and would be at the meeting place soon.

After a half hour of waiting I sent a txt asking if they were still planning on showing up, and they txt back "yes".

After another half hour of waiting, they still hadn't arrived and they stopped responding to txt messages.

I'm guessing that their account at localbitcoins is a throw away fake account, and that the phone they were calling and txting from was a "burner", but for what it's worth here's the info so others can avoid being caught in this scam attempt:

SCAMMER
localbitcoins ID: sucraM
phone: 913-200-1331


If anyone can identify this person, I'd love to contact the FBI and file charges for attmpted fraud against them.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on August 19, 2013, 10:10:03 PM
I added this guy to bitcoinscammers.com.  Hopefully he will change his ways.  Thanks for letting the community know.


We alos have user DUCKIE as a scammer on their as well.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: KingOfSports on August 19, 2013, 10:28:10 PM
As a warning to any users of localbitcoins.com, as scammer attempted to steal 55 BTC from me today.

They claimed to be buying bitcoins, and wanted to use the "transaction service".  Once the transaction was funded they tried to convince me to "send a picture of our contact/trade page for verification purposes".

When I ignored that request, they followed up with a phone call and played dumb about the "release code".  They just wanted me to send a picture of the page so they could verify.  They didn't think having a picture of a green release button would be a problem.

I explained why I couldn't.  Then I sent them a carefully framed image that had the release code cropped out.

They claimed they were on there way and would be at the meeting place soon.

After a half hour of waiting I sent a txt asking if they were still planning on showing up, and they txt back "yes".

After another half hour of waiting, they still hadn't arrived and they stopped responding to txt messages.

I'm guessing that their account at localbitcoins is a throw away fake account, and that the phone they were calling and txting from was a "burner", but for what it's worth here's the info so others can avoid being caught in this scam attempt:

SCAMMER
localbitcoins ID: sucraM
phone: 913-200-1331


If anyone can identify this person, I'd love to contact the FBI and file charges for attmpted fraud against them.

Wow... sad thing is I'm sure some idiot has fallen for this trick.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on August 19, 2013, 10:34:28 PM
Try this phone number 913-563-2944  I did a little digging and I think he is a car enthusiast that also uses Craigslist to scam people.  And he goes by MARCUS.   Not 100% on this but based on the forums he has been selling car parts under this name.


I tracked him down to this ad:   http://173.247.245.176/~kcsror5/showthread.php?p=1921090

Direct picture of licenses plate: http://i.imgur.com/ts5Re.jpg


You can clearly get his license plate number and ask the cops to investigate it.    I'm not a cop and do not know if this is the man that scammed you so be sure to seek legal counsel or consult an officer before doing anything.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: KingOfSports on August 19, 2013, 10:49:24 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277750.0


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: yuriygeorge on August 19, 2013, 11:08:52 PM
http://imm.io/1fxK3

I just txted the guy. He says:
"Don't give them the guys license plate who had the car before the guy who sold it to me which I have sold that car anyways"

This guy's from Kansas. Coincidence?

Note: I wasn't dumb enough to send him a screenshot, but I feel bad for some that did.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on August 19, 2013, 11:12:40 PM
Lol so it was him?  HAHAHA  BUSTED! When you sell a car the license plate does not go with the NEW owner..  


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: KingOfSports on August 19, 2013, 11:18:06 PM
Someone please file a real life case against this person.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: yuriygeorge on August 20, 2013, 12:23:46 AM
Me: Hey this is [redacted...] from local Bitcoins. R u looking to buy some? 9:21 AM
+19132001331: Yes I am. How many coins available 10:16 AM
Me: 50 for starters, more later 10:19 AM
+19132001331: Okay I can buy 50 10:20 AM
Me: When? How much? 10:24 AM
+19132001331: Whatever is listed on your ad ill send a new trade 10:27 AM
Me: Sounds good. Can u meet in the city? 10:32 AM
+19132001331: Yes I can. When? 12:51 PM
Me: I'm free today after 5 if you want. Preferably somewhere near the loop 1:13 PM
+19132001331: Yeah that works when can you fund ? 1:13 PM
+19132001331: ? 1:23 PM
Me: Hey sorry. I was driving. 1:53 PM
Me: I can fund 1-2 hours before meeting. 1:53 PM
+19132001331: Okay cool 1:54 PM
+19132001331: Could you fund it now then for our 43 coins? We meeting around 5 or 6 right 1:55 PM
Me: Sure 2:01 PM
Me: Initiated the transaction, still waiting on confirmations 2:04 PM
Me: Lets meet at 5 please. 2:04 PM
Me: In lobby/entrance of 141 w van buren, board of trade building 2:05 PM
+19132001331: Okay cool that works 2:13 PM
+19132001331: Could you send me a picture of our contact/trade page for verification 2:13 PM
Me: Transaction is funded. 2:14 PM
Me: Huh? What do u mean. U can see it on LocalBitcoins.com 2:15 PM
+19132001331: I need you to send a picture of the screen for verification and safety purposes. I require everyone to for safe and smooth transaction 2:16 PM
Me: I've never had anyone request this. Please explain how this will make it safer. What's your reasoning 2:20 PM
Me: If I was trying to scam u, I could easily photoshop 2:20 PM
+19132001331: ..? 2:21 PM
Me: Let me guess. U have no money, and u just want a picture so u can text the SMS to release funds right 2:21 PM
Me: Wow that's a good one! 2:22 PM
Me: Are u part of the Kansas City drift association? 2:23 PM
+19132001331: Not sure. Am I? 2:24 PM
+19132001331: What Is it lol 2:24 PM
Me: So lets face it. Ur not looking to buy Bitcoins right? 2:25 PM
+19132001331: Yes I am 2:26 PM
Me: All right well come to the board of trade at 5pm. Well chat then. 2:28 PM
Me: You're fucked buddy. Left your license plate # all over the web. 083 DAB. Hope u sleep well at night 5:53 PM
+19132001331: What lol 5:54 PM
Me: I suggest u give the money back to the people u scammed 5:54 PM
Me: It's all over reddit BitcoinTalk.org. People are reporting the FBI on u. 5:54 PM
Me: Marcus 5:55 PM
+19132001331: Lol what license plate 5:55 PM
+19132001331: Link me :D 5:55 PM
Me: Http://I.imgur.com/ts5Re.jpg 5:56 PM
Me: Heh, I'd be shitting my pants too right now 6:01 PM
+19132001331: OMG please no 6:03 PM
+19132001331: Please no 6:03 PM
+19132001331: Don't give them the guys license plate who had the car before the guy who sold it to me which I have sold that car anyways 6:03 PM
+19132001331: NOOOOOOO! I'm so scared 6:04 PM
+19132001331: Shut up faggot. 6:04 PM
+19132001331: Pyшник пыpнy oнa :) 6:10 PM
Me: I'll give u that. It was a good scam. Didn't fool me though. How much did u make so far? 6:16 PM
+19132001331: Few hundred coins 6:19 PM
Me: Soooo evil haha. How long have u done this? 6:19 PM
+19132001331: They'll fix it somehow soon. Ill find a way though :p 6:19 PM
+19132001331: Find me potential people. Ill split you 6:20 PM
+19132001331: Guess how long it took me to make the approx. 300 coins I made 6:20 PM
Me: Lol I could just do it myself. But this is the kinda stuff that hurts the Bitcoin economy. I'm in it for the long term 6:21 PM
Me: I used to scam Diablo II gaming accounts. Was very good 6:21 PM
Me: But this is different 6:21 PM
+19132001331: How so 6:21 PM
+19132001331: I'm not hurting prices 6:21 PM
+19132001331: I still sell them at a regular price 6:22 PM
Me: When this kind of stuff goes open in the public, people start pointing fingers that Bitcoin is not secure and bunch of nonsense 6:22 PM
+19132001331: Well I'm going to be done soon anyways 6:23 PM
+19132001331: A few hundred more coins and I'm set 6:23 PM
Me: Heh, ull figure out some other way. I encourage you to try find a more legitimate way to make money from Bitcoin. Many have. Good luck 6:24 PM
Me: If u give me 50 BTC, I won't post this convo on the Internet. Less people trying to snoop u out. I got journalist channels 6:47 PM
Me: Think about it or make an offer 6:48 PM
+19132001331: Lol 6:50 PM
+19132001331: LOL 6:50 PM
+19132001331: Do you know who I am? 6:50 PM
+19132001331: Try me faggot. 6:50 PM
Me: How about 1 Bitcoin haha 6:52 PM
+19132001331: How about. You post it. Nothing happens 6:53 PM
+19132001331: Or. You don't post it. Nothing happens. 6:53 PM
+19132001331: If anything you should pay me off for not fucking you up 6:53 PM
+19132001331: You have no idea who I am. Do not threaten me. You'll regret it. I suggest you stop messaging me before you're in debt. 6:54 PM
Me: Lol, look who've making threats now 6:56 PM
+19132001331: Yes I am. 6:56 PM
+19132001331: You think you have ANY chance of finding me? 6:56 PM
Me: I don't. But maybe the FBI may 6:57 PM
Me: You're talking over $30-40k Bitcoin fraud. 6:57 PM
+19132001331: Lmfao 6:57 PM
+19132001331: As if they aren't already looking for me. ;) 6:58 PM
+19132001331: Cya around my friends 6:58 PM
Me: Take it easy man. I was gonna post it even if u gave me Bitcoins hahahahaha 7:00 PM


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Rawted on August 20, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
Exact type of person that needs vigilante justice.

I love the faggot line. Such brash and hateful talk from someone driving a purple car.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on August 20, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
WOO HOO SCAMMER BUSTED ANOTHER VICTORY!!  GOOD JOB GUYS!!


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: yuriygeorge on August 20, 2013, 02:53:08 AM
Did anyone report this guy? I tried but too many forms to fill out. I hope the victims at least did.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 20, 2013, 03:35:04 AM
Did anyone report this guy? I tried but too many forms to fill out. I hope the victims at least did.

Since I managed to avoid being a victim, I didn't file any report.  There's just too much opportunity for a defense to claim "It was just a misunderstanding."  If any actual victims file a report with the FBI, I hope they'll say so here on bitcointalk.org.  I'm very interested in calling the FBI and offering the details of my interaction as corroboration and evidence of a pattern of behavior to any investigation into actual fraud.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: BCB on August 21, 2013, 04:22:37 PM
As a warning to any users of localbitcoins.com, as scammer attempted to steal 55 BTC from me today.

They claimed to be buying bitcoins, and wanted to use the "transaction service".  Once the transaction was funded they tried to convince me to "send a picture of our contact/trade page for verification purposes".

When I ignored that request, they followed up with a phone call and played dumb about the "release code".  They just wanted me to send a picture of the page so they could verify.  They didn't think having a picture of a green release button would be a problem.

I explained why I couldn't.  Then I sent them a carefully framed image that had the release code cropped out.

They claimed they were on there way and would be at the meeting place soon.

After a half hour of waiting I sent a txt asking if they were still planning on showing up, and they txt back "yes".

After another half hour of waiting, they still hadn't arrived and they stopped responding to txt messages.

I'm guessing that their account at localbitcoins is a throw away fake account, and that the phone they were calling and txting from was a "burner", but for what it's worth here's the info so others can avoid being caught in this scam attempt:

SCAMMER
localbitcoins ID: sucraM
phone: 913-200-1331


If anyone can identify this person, I'd love to contact the FBI and file charges for attmpted fraud against them.

FYI that phone is registered to "EDWARD SNOWDEN" 


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: escrow.ms on August 21, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
http://gyazo.com/b873e94d8e2407881b7e9393c7102b9f.png


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: bitsalame on August 21, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
I am investigating this kid, also known as "Marcus" in some forums. (His nickname is his name backwards)
He also attempted to pull a very dumb scam to me via LocalBitcoins under the name Kagomeluvsu2.

I located his physical address, IP address, gmail account and forum nicknames.
On Gmail his registered name is Andrew Gower, but it might be fake.
He uses cricket (9135632944) and sprint (9132001331) phones, and a VoIP service (2818913127) as well, but they are all located in Kansas City so that location is pretty much confirmed.
The cricket and sprint numbers appears under two different names and two different addresses, so it may not be reliable but I am running his license plate with the DMV in Kansas City so I will know soon enough.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on August 21, 2013, 06:34:21 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: bitsalame on August 21, 2013, 08:35:51 PM
Checkmate, I confirmed his real identity.
Those who got scammed send me a PM so you can file a full complaint to the FBI through the IC3 with actual information about this kid.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: BCB on August 21, 2013, 08:40:58 PM
Post all the details here for posterity (and Google).


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: bitsalame on August 21, 2013, 08:43:30 PM
I wonder about the legality of posting personal information in a public forum.
I don't want to be caught in the irony of being sued by a scammer for violating his privacy.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: BCB on August 21, 2013, 08:45:08 PM
Unless you signed a confidentially agreement with this guy (buy using your website or something like that) and you did not collect his info by illegal means (requesting a credit report)  what is the problem?


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: bitsalame on August 21, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
I gave him an ultimatum
If he doesn't return the stolen bitcoins, I'll report him to the IC3/FBI and publish his information for everyone.
The thing is that this kid is still a kid, 19 years old. A very immature 19 years old kid, who might ruin the rest of his life by being canned.
I want to give him a chance of making things right by returning the stolen bitcoins, I gave him 24 hours.

Anyone who goes victimized by sucraM/Kagomeluvsu2 please send me a PM.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on August 21, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
That's fair and appreciated I hope.  Good idea as we have all screwed up one time or another. 

I gave him an ultimatum
If he doesn't return the stolen bitcoins, I'll report him to the IC3/FBI and publish his information for everyone.
The thing is that this kid is still a kid, 19 years old. A very immature 19 years old kid.
I want to give him a chance of making things right by returning the stolen bitcoins, I gave him 24 hours.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: KingOfSports on August 21, 2013, 10:18:16 PM
I gave him an ultimatum
If he doesn't return the stolen bitcoins, I'll report him to the IC3/FBI and publish his information for everyone.
The thing is that this kid is still a kid, 19 years old. A very immature 19 years old kid.
I want to give him a chance of making things right by returning the stolen bitcoins, I gave him 24 hours.
I'm 19 and I just want to say, thank you for doing this. It's these kind of things done by immature young people that truly hurt bitcoins. Many have claimed I would scam eventually based on my immaturity or whatever reason but I have not because it's simply wrong. To a 19 year old, $1000 is a lot of money, and I've escrowed for almost double that, however never once has a thought to run with the funds crossed my mind. Thank you again and honestly I hope this kid goes to jail instead.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 21, 2013, 10:27:57 PM
I'm 19 and
- snip -

Really?  Wow.  I never would have guessed.  I'm impressed, there aren't many 19 year olds that come across as mature and responsible as you do.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: BurtW on August 21, 2013, 10:43:20 PM
I gave him an ultimatum
If he doesn't return the stolen bitcoins, I'll report him to the IC3/FBI and publish his information for everyone.
The thing is that this kid is still a kid, 19 years old. A very immature 19 years old kid, who might ruin the rest of his life by being canned.
I want to give him a chance of making things right by returning the stolen bitcoins, I gave him 24 hours.

Anyone who goes victimized by sucraM/Kagomeluvsu2 please send me a PM.
That is very good, and fast, work!

This kid tried to scam me out of $5K.  I played along for a while then told him to f off.  So, since he did not get anything from me I guess I have no reason to file.

Funny story:  when I went to cancel his bogus transaction on localbitcoins I accidently hit the "release funds" button by mistake.  It almost gave me a heart attack.  Lucky for me the site requires confirmation for the release of funds action.

Has he returned any of the BTC yet?  Have any actual victims stepped forward?

Quote
+19132001331: Guess how long it took me to make the approx. 300 coins I made 6:20 PM
Probably a BS boast.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: BurtW on August 21, 2013, 11:56:41 PM
I had a thought.  Victims will most likely contact localbitcoins to see what can be done or to report the theft.  If you turn over all the DOX to localbitcoins then they can give the DOX to any victims that contact them.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: bitsalame on August 22, 2013, 12:10:21 AM
I had a thought.  Victims will most likely contact localbitcoins to see what can be done or to report the theft.  If you turn over all the DOX to localbitcoins then they can give the DOX to any victims that contact them.

Good idea, it's done.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: /dev/null on August 22, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
What's his mom/dad's number?
Someone should call them and tell everything.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: btcapparel on August 23, 2013, 02:32:35 AM
What's his mom/dad's number?
Someone should call them and tell everything.

This^^

Im sure his parents would like to know that their beloved son is stealing thousands of dollars


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: realestone on August 23, 2013, 02:46:30 AM
meh im all for harassing someone whose stolen something but i dont believe you should harass someones family members they didnt scam anyone hes a man responsible for his own actions


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: bitsalame on August 23, 2013, 06:20:58 PM
What's his mom/dad's number?
Someone should call them and tell everything.

This^^

Im sure his parents would like to know that their beloved son is stealing thousands of dollars

well, he is living with his mom:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279648.0

but I don't recommend harassing people, leave the punishment to the authorities... that's the only thing that this government is good at.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on September 05, 2013, 02:42:05 AM
He already has been busted,  He has a few names but has been turned in and we are waiting for authoritative action on it.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: bitsalame on September 05, 2013, 05:04:01 AM
It's funny how he keeps using the same phone number, he is an idiot.
Wait a minute, his new nickname on local bitcoins was "justicedog"?
ROFL this guy is really braindead. He went from using his REAL names reversed to using his pet's name.
What's gonna be next? His mom's name?

This guy really wants to get caught.


Title: Re: localbitcoins sucraM scammer
Post by: Bitcoin Scammer on September 05, 2013, 05:07:03 AM
I don't think he has found himself on here yet .. lol wait until he sees all the pictures.  GOOD JOB lol