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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Xandrah on January 22, 2018, 11:11:04 AM



Title: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: Xandrah on January 22, 2018, 11:11:04 AM
Alright so quite a popular streamer on twitch called Athene has been scamming people with a new currency he has created called Purpose & Dubi
The price is currently being artificially inflated on a exchange called IDEX, where he sets a current buy wall & sell well for his coin, inflating the price by 1% every few hours to days (depending how much he sells of it). Currently he owns 99.6% of the currency and dumps it on the exchange he has had his token listed on for fixed prices, hyping up to everyone who watches his stream. ďthis coin can never fall, itís a pump & pump coin that will only go up! It can only go up! I am going to make you rich, invest now etc etc etc.Ē

Now I have been watching this coin for a while, and when somebody owns the entire amount, and sets inflated buy prices. You have to wonder to yourself, something fishy is going on here, especially when he wants you to buy the coin, and then lock it (HODL) so you can get 1 DUBI in exchange. Now when you lock it (in a manual smart contract) the PRPS is oddly enough sent back to his own wallet. And thus the cycle of pumping it continues, with the rule you cannot have your prps back for 12 months. Now if you watch some of the lengthy videos down below you will see he is constantly (for up to 9 hours insane!!!) repeating to you why this coin is good, and how he is going to make you super rich, while also blurting out its a scam now and then for "entertainment purposes" also getting quite irritated when somebody calls him out on stream, now if this coin had nothing fishy about it, you would calmly ignore such comments, or prove why its not, he engages with the people accusing him and begins to go on a rant against them, it feels like he has something to hide and defend.

Now this shady exchange is pretty new, pretty small and I feel like he is doing a deal with them (dont take my word for it, its a hunch), and getting pretty wealthy on eth as of how much of his token he sells for eth there. While in reality his coin has absolutely no value, its not listed anywhere else! Only on this odd exchange where he repeatedly pumps up the price every time it falls back, I am still trying to wrap my head around it, how he owns the entire wealth of PRPS but yet banks out from ether because people he begs to, buy it up. No way would this currency make you "millions" as he states. Itís making him millions (of eth) but not the buyer of his pre-mined coin.

But in all honesty, I have shown you some of my proof that's down below. I would like you to give me your views on the whole thing, show proof or legitimacy of the coin. I think this coin should not be allowed to be shilled out on Twitch.tv which have yet to make a comment on his channel when he goes on a shilling spree for up to 9 hours, of why this coin is going to make YOU rich. Of course, if we have evidence to back up the legitimacy of this coin this topic will be removed.

Reddit complaint thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/7r57fh/why_is_athene_allowed_to_promote_and_run_his/

Another Reddit complaint thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/7sujf1/athene_full_exposed_as_scam_artist_promoting_a/

Proof down below.

Coin/Token Athenes (token owners) holdings.
https://etherscan.io/token/0x7641b2Ca9DDD58adDf6e3381c1F994Aac5f1A32f#balances
https://etherscan.io/token/0xd4cffeef10f60eca581b5e1146b5aca4194a4c3b#balances

Insane videos of Athene and Reese:
https://clips.twitch.tv/HeartlessAlluringGazelleTriHard
https://clips.twitch.tv/RelievedAssiduousTildeSuperVinlin
https://clips.twitch.tv/GleamingSpoopyCheeseGivePLZ (I don't think I have ever heard a charity worker say he doesn't care about kids dying though this clip was clipped in a nasty way by somebody, may have vendetta)
https://clips.twitch.tv/UglyGentleSpindlePogChamp

In this part of the video, somebody undercuts his sell wall, which gets him pretty angry as his coin drops by -90.0% in value.
After a little while you will see him zoom into his graph, to make it look like the coins increasing in value, while also desperately setting more sell wall prices for hundreds, if not thousands of his tokens for a set price.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/219539135?t=03h17m26s

Some long video casts of where he try's to brainwash the audience to invest eth into his currency that's completely under his control:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/220931552

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/220557412

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/220202166

Strange promotional video of why it makes you "very" rich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwleqKixhUg

Really wacky website for the coin PRPS & DUBI

https://www.prps.io/

The odd exchange in question thats allowing this shilling scam ( idex.market )

Edit: It seems Idex has de listed both tokens, I would be interested to see the reasons for de listing, as I cant imagine its from a reddit post.

Edit: Supposedly making their own exchange because they were de-listed. It's called DUBIEX, good luck to them and artificially pumping their own token, easier to do it on your own! I wonder if they will be using source code from github, as there is plenty of exchange code on there.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: temp1024 on January 23, 2018, 03:00:07 PM
It's a ponzi scheme, and the math fails after 12 months:

After the first 12 months there is a shortage of money to cover the buywall which increases each year due to the float of DUBI increasing each year when you lock it in. All of his "mathematical calculations" failed to take into account the increase in DUBI supply each year.

Level 901, PRPS is at $1000. Total money collected for buywall: $90 million
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Total DUBI in circulation at that time: 58,800

Money needed for buywall: $59 million

Money in buywall: $90 million

Surplus: $21 million
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Total DUBI in circulation after 12 months: 117,600

Money needed for buywall: $117 million

Money in buywall: $90 million

Shortage: $27 million
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Total DUBI in circulation after 24 months: 176,400

Money needed for buywall: $176 million

Money in buywall: $90 million

Shortage: $86 million
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Total DUBI in circulation after 36 months: 235,200

Money needed for buywall: $235 million

Money in buywall: $90 million

Shortage: $145 million
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Total DUBI in circulation after 48 months: 294,000

Money needed for buywall: $294 million

Money in buywall: $90 million

Shortage: $204 million
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Total DUBI in circulation after 60 months: 352,800

Money needed for buywall: $352 million

Money in buywall: $90 million

Shortage: $262 million
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Its a ponzi scheme that gets further and further in the pit each year as DUBI supply increases.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: Xandrah on January 23, 2018, 03:47:34 PM
Thanks for your research, but whats worse is he is selling a token on a shady exchange for fixed prices, but he owns all the currency, so he can dump and buy back as much as he wants, because all the chumps on his stream give him ether for his worthless ERC20 token.

It will be quite interesting to see what happens when this is put onto regulated exchanges, not one single one as IDEX is a shady place. A coin cannot survive being listed on one exchange.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: WinLikeStupid on January 25, 2018, 09:59:00 PM
As I see it, this is a math problem. I would like to better understand your model and try to figure out how to "solve for X", as it were.

Do your calculations take into account A) the scheduled 20% annual burn of PRPS and B) the range of contract durations being 3/6/12 months ?

It seems like the burn will implicitly increase the value of PRPS by 20% each year, and increase the amount of Eth required as input by 20% each year (assuming PRPS / yr. purchase rate remains constant)

Also I haven't enlisted any PRPS into contracts, but I will assume that different tiers have different interest rates. I know that the distribution of contract duration will be scattered across 3/6/12 months solely on the basis of user variance. This must be taken into account, but does not appear to be.

Athene has said that after either 1 or 2 years he knows he will run out of money, if the "scam" does not take off. I want to figure out all the variables here, it would be great if you could share your findings.



Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: Xandrah on January 25, 2018, 10:24:07 PM
It seems IDEX how now de-listed both eth tokens.

News: Supposedly making their own exchange because they were de-listed. It's called DUBIEX, good luck to them and artificially pumping their own token, easier to do it on your own! I wonder if they will be using source code from github, as there is plenty of exchange code on there.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: etheral on January 27, 2018, 03:56:20 PM
It seems like most people here have no idea what they are talking about and they just wanna jump on the bandwagon.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: Xandrah on January 27, 2018, 09:13:12 PM
It seems like most people here have no idea what they are talking about and they just wanna jump on the bandwagon.

Interesting, last post 2014 now suddenly responding to this thread.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: xlordkarnagex on January 29, 2018, 03:37:49 AM
I would like to add some really shady shit he has done in the past, have been following this guy for a while and he has a track record of being dishonest.
Search online for proof of these things if you don't believe me.

1 Used his family, friends and girlfriend to help him rise in politics to get more votes so that he could have some say and in the first meeting they had with him they basically told him to GTFO

2 Rose to "supernova elite" doing poker playing like 50 tables at once making over a million dollars but getting banned because he was exploiting the system.

3 Got carried to rank #1 PVP 2vs2 in TBC, plain and simple.

4 Got banned permanently from wow trying to get world first lvl 80 by grouping in a dungeon running straight to end boss and then leave the group thus granting him all of the XP GM stepped in and banned his ass.

5 Told people he was the world first killing diablo 3 final boss when it wasn't even on the hardest difficulty, losing to Krip due to being woefully underprepared.

6 Got carried to diamond rank in the video game: League of Legends, (LoL). There is a clip out on the web of him live screaming at someone for not dodging queue because it would affect his rank, he needed to be ryze or teemo at all times for whatever reason.

7 Faked a 100% win rate stream on hs by hiding the clock and his gold with stream elements pretending as though he was actually playing the whole time. Someone said it wasn't even his own footage.

8 Claiming to have raised 25 million dollars for charity when in reality most of the time the money was matched x2 x3 x5 x10 or even higher in some cases. The real amount of total money actually donated for children through the community was around 2.5 million. Athene visited a small village live on stream and took questions with some kids one day, and save the children donated like 20k which had it's own special 20x so it read as 400k.

9 Whatever the fuck that click shit was all about, I mean wtf even was that. "more intelligent than anyone on the planet, even Einstein, by far!" Nuff said"

10 It may be up for contention, but the viewbotting scandal when he streamed 24/7, it's not clear who was veiwbotting the evidence is clear that somebody was using view bots on his channel

11 As pointed out by a Redditor, he also had his sc2 account boosted to grandmaster by another player.

I'm sure there are plenty more fallacies that others could find. Those are just the ones I am aware of.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: actmyname on January 29, 2018, 04:21:27 AM
Athene tried to justify the scam by stating that he told everyone it was a scam.

There's nothing more to say about his character.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: Xandrah on January 29, 2018, 10:18:50 PM
Basically, the best thing to say is this is a scam, don't trust the idiot. There is enough evidence to show this is a pump and dump scam. Especially with them making their own exchange for their own coin, which is de listed from other exchanges!


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: Greto on March 06, 2018, 10:54:36 AM
I am fairly new to the crypto topic and made a acc here because I am checking on Athene from time to time. But wouldn't it make you a lot of money if you bought to that sellout time where it was 50% off and you sold just now, where DUBI is at 100$? Meaning if you had PRPS and got DUBI for it by "locking it" and trade it against eth now you could have made a lot like in a PND. I am not supporting this btw, I have trouble understanding the whole system atm which is already not trustworthy for me.


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: gloriam5 on March 07, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
thank you for such a large amount of information, this need to be noted!


Title: Re: Purpose (PRPS) & DUBI (DUBI) Ethereum Token Scam
Post by: zzzzz1zzzz on September 19, 2019, 09:26:00 AM
Before I write about this project, I want to make it clear that I am a fan of Athene and his projects, so incoming bias, but please before you make your decision, try and see it from both angles.
Obviously a new account, but i have been in the Crypto sphere for years, I just didn't bother to make an account

Please take some time into reading the other side of the project

Here it is:

Athene is a very confrontational guy, and sometimes comes across "schemy", but I can assure you he is a good person wanting to help improve the world in fighting poverty with his current CryptoCurrency

Just recently they have partnered with Save the Children, one of the biggest charities in the world in implementing a Pilot program with his cryptocurrency DUBI and PRPS
Source: https://www.savethechildren.org/us/about-us/media-and-news/ambassadors/athene

This means that Save the Children has done a background check on both Athene, his Organization, and his CryptoCurrency and officially recognized this as a legitimate program

Athene is also working on a Mobile game that will integrate his Cryptocurrency on the Ethereum network, this has been in the works for years now and will soon be released. This will help give value to his coin, and all the money from the game will be put into fighting poverty. For more information see:
https://steemit.com/crypto/@costanza/clash-of-streamers-or-prps-and-dubi-explained-part-3 or the official site ClashOfStreamers.com (https://ClashOfStreamers.com) (currently playable on BETA)

He and his team had also created a Decentralized Exchange "Dubiex.com (https://Dubiex.com)" which has the coin listed there. Its open sourced. This Exchange has Zero Fees and does not require any kind of login.
More info here: https://dappradar.com/app/551/dubiex

Thanks for taking the time to read this.