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Title: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Tszunami98 on January 22, 2018, 02:18:03 PM
I think this is not news that Jamalaezaz is stealing money from bounty campaigns he manages, he has recieved red trust from DT users also about his scam activity.
I will tell you my experience and i hope other people will join in exposing this worthless thief.

First of all the only way you can take a translation in his campaigns is by accepting a very small ammount in BTC so he can keep your bounty tokens for the translation. He also told me that he will find another translator if i dont accept. Basically he doesent care about experience or the project to be done well...he just cares about scamming you and the company about the bounty tokens!

I accepted a few jobs because i needed the money and he agreed to pay half and half....
He also has cheap tactics...like forgeting he didnt pay ..and basically make you beg for your money.

I also suspect him having accomplices like shooterxd, Bitfinesse, SK_Aezaz in helping him with the scams he does.
He also steals the tokens from twitter and facebook campaign by having tons of fake accounts joined in the campaigns that him and his friends own.

There is too much to say about how this human garbage has stolen his way into being a ''crypto milionaire''.

I cant wait to see the comunity reaction because, apparently, he thinks that nobody knows what he is doing.



Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: jamalaezaz on January 22, 2018, 02:38:25 PM
first of all this is right (and everyone knows) that I have been offering BTC payments to some of my bounty participants (and I am buying bounty stakes and tokens from other users as well here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2695084) because I found those projects promising and I wanted to keep the bounty tokens. but nothing is a scam in this as I've clearly said if whoever sell his bounty stakes or agree to get paid in BTC for his participation he must sacrifice his bounty tokens (regardless of whatever their value is or will) .
if someone do not like this deal he' is free to not sell his stakes or choose token payment. I never tried to hide this or mislead someone.


About  your translation. I clearly told you everything and I also told you that if you agree to get paid in BTC you'll not receive a token bounty... I have paid you 50% upfront and we agreed (you did as well) to get the rest of 50% after bounty distribution. which haven't done yet.. I forget things often because I deal with hundreds of people everyday... is this the only reason you are calling me a scammer?..


I am paying you over 0.025 BTC for a translation which is not a small amount (it is more then what you should get,, lots of projects paying only $50 to $100 whenever they chose to pay in BTC) so stop spreading false things..

and You have abused me in telegram and threaten me to make me jobless in all over the forum. so  I am going to perma blacklist you from all my active and upcoming bounty programs. which you truly deserve.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: 2girls on January 22, 2018, 03:44:25 PM
I think this is not news that Jamalaezaz is stealing money from bounty campaigns he manages, he has recieved red trust from DT users also about his scam activity.
I will tell you my experience and i hope other people will join in exposing this worthless thief.

First of all the only way you can take a translation in his campaigns is by accepting a very small ammount in BTC so he can keep your bounty tokens for the translation. He also told me that he will find another translator if i dont accept. Basically he doesent care about experience or the project to be done well...he just cares about scamming you and the company about the bounty tokens!

I accepted a few jobs because i needed the money and he agreed to pay half and half....
He also has cheap tactics...like forgeting he didnt pay ..and basically make you beg for your money.

I also suspect him having accomplices like shooterxd, Bitfinesse, SK_Aezaz in helping him with the scams he does.
He also steals the tokens from twitter and facebook campaign by having tons of fake accounts joined in the campaigns that him and his friends own.

There is too much to say about how this human garbage has stolen his way into being a ''crypto milionaire''.

I cant wait to see the comunity reaction because, apparently, he thinks that nobody knows what he is doing.



Buying the ICO token before they go into the exchange is really a blessing for those who have collected those tokens in bounties and want money urgently. Also you never know  if the token will ever reach the exchange or not, so i think this is the best service jamal is offering.
He is not stealing token, he is buying them for BTC.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Tszunami98 on January 22, 2018, 04:00:49 PM

I am paying you over 0.025 BTC for a translation which is not a small amount (it is more then what you should get,, lots of projects paying only $50 to $100 whenever they chose to pay in BTC) so stop spreading false things..

and You have abused me in telegram and threaten me to make me jobless in all over the forum. so  I am going to perma blacklist you from all my active and upcoming bounty programs. which you truly deserve.

0.025 it is a small ammount when you keep tokens worth of 7 ether....and thats only for tigereum...i wont mention Token Pay.
It is 5% of the bounty that should be allocated to me.

This clearly demonstrates you are a scmammer because i never saw a 50$ or 100$ payment in BTC for a translation...except you intervene and stole the rest.

How can you say you are not a scammer when the only criteria you accept translators is if they accept your corrupted terms.

I dont know if you own sufficient intelectual capacity to understand this, but the tokens for translations are offered by the company for the work that the translator does. Is none of your business to abuse the power you have and force translators to accept your shitty btc payment in return of their token.

I am already messagin every company you are trying to scam of their tokens and i also hope that people will stop being so coward and afraid about your retaliation negative trust and start calling you for what you are.... AN UNEDUCATED PAKISTANI PIECE OF SHIT SCAMMER!


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: akashark on January 22, 2018, 05:04:34 PM
I am still new here and I know jamalaezaz for his bounty campaigns. And, he is not good enough and he is also not bad. I don't like his all activity. Without reason he reject many bounty participants after two or three weeks and he doesn't pay them. I love pakistani culture but he and irfanpak's bounty camps are suffering too much for their bad activites. hope they will change.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Busido on January 22, 2018, 05:05:18 PM
I want to say my opinion about jamalaezaz. This person should not to manage a company of bounty, he is greedy, unprofessional, shady and untrustworthy. Deceives and steals.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: jamalaezaz on January 22, 2018, 05:34:11 PM
0.025 it is a small ammount when you keep tokens worth of 7 ether....and thats only for tigereum...i wont mention Token Pay.
at the time of taking that btc payment you were happy to agree on that. and now you are trying to make false argument... I never forced you to accept this if you felt it is wrong. you could simply deny to work for that amount..

This clearly demonstrates you are a scmammer because i never saw a 50$ or 100$ payment in BTC for a translation...except you intervene and stole the rest.
if you never saw, it is not my fault. but it is the fact:
Reference 1:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1922314.0 ($50)
Reference 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1700419.0 (0.01BTC not more then 50$ at that time)

if you need more examples then search yourself.

How can you say you are not a scammer when the only criteria you accept translators is if they accept your corrupted terms.
if you want to join a bounty or a campaign you have to follow manager's terms. it is that simple.. what is scam in this?

I dont know if you own sufficient intelectual capacity to understand this, but the tokens for translations are offered by the company for the work that the translator does. Is none of your business to abuse the power you have and force translators to accept your shitty btc payment in return of their token.
I never forced you or anyone.. I just give option to accept his payment in btc or not.. which you happily accepted at tigereum and tokenpay time.


I am already messagin every company you are trying to scam of their tokens and i also hope that people will stop being so coward and afraid about your retaliation negative trust and start calling you for what you are.,

you need a a lot of time to achieve this because no one is stupid to believe one side statement.. (if someone does I would never prefer to work with such company myself)

AN UNEDUCATED PAKISTANI PIECE OF SHIT SCAMMER!
no comment on this.. you proved your dignity with this act of nation-shaming.



Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Tszunami98 on January 22, 2018, 05:56:58 PM
1. You are really dumb and i am done with you on this subject... accepting translators only if they accept your shady payment is a SCAM. You scam the company that offers the tokens to the translators...and you scam the translators also.

2. It is really pathetic that you have to dig a 2016 post to make an argument on that topic :D

3. It is imposible for me to shame your nation... your nation does a good job shaming itself, being the country with tens of thousands of child rape every year.
In this regard i kinda understand why you dont see that what you are doing is wrong...because you come from such a disgusting culture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs

It doesent matter how much you are trying to excuse yourself, you already got negative red trust for shady activities from DT members and soon more and more people will come and say what kind of scum you are.



Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Lauda on January 22, 2018, 08:36:22 PM
First of all the only way you can take a translation in his campaigns is by accepting a very small ammount in BTC so he can keep your bounty tokens for the translation. He also told me that he will find another translator if i dont accept. Basically he doesent care about experience or the project to be done well...he just cares about scamming you and the company about the bounty tokens!
That's just outright abuse of the management position due to their own greed. Do you have a screenshot of this conversation by any chance? Not that it is really required given the *conversation* that you guys had.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Tszunami98 on January 23, 2018, 01:43:19 AM
Unfortunately i blocked him on telegram and now when i unblocked him it doesent show the conversation.

He admits it here tho... :D


How can you say you are not a scammer when the only criteria you accept translators is if they accept your corrupted terms.
if you want to join a bounty or a campaign you have to follow manager's terms. it is that simple.. what is scam in this?

I dont know if you own sufficient intelectual capacity to understand this, but the tokens for translations are offered by the company for the work that the translator does. Is none of your business to abuse the power you have and force translators to accept your shitty btc payment in return of their token.
I never forced you or anyone.. I just give option to accept his payment in btc or not.. which you happily accepted at tigereum and tokenpay time.


Check out how stupid he is when he says that him offering to 'buy' your tokens is considered a campaign managers term.
The term is....accept or get lost!

When he says ''giving the option to accept or not'' he means if you dont accept he will find another translator...is not like if you dont accept he will give you your tokens.

I'm sad i dont have the conversations anymore but i hope you can read thru the lines and see where he shot himself in the foot.
Even more sad is that there are others translators who got the same treatment and we agreed to expose him...and now i am alone on the battle field :D.

I guess that negative trust rating scares a lot of people.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Tszunami98 on January 23, 2018, 09:58:59 AM
I got a confession out of him....i hope this is enough!
Excuse my french...

https://i.imgur.com/spX5p8q.png
https://i.imgur.com/RXi5n3n.png
https://i.imgur.com/S7Uksn3.png
https://i.imgur.com/FvPaQW1.png



Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: jamalaezaz on January 23, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
I am not understanding in which point I have scammed you or someone else..?
I offered you to pay you in BTC for your translators and I clearly told you that if you accept BTC you'll not receive any tokens but I'll take your tokens because I am paying BTC by myself not owners..
I did the same with few other translators and blog writers.. and if someone liked that he accepted that and if someone didn't liked that he didn't accepted that. it is that simple

now what is scam in all this?

why you didn't argued on this when we were discussing BTC payment? you could have said all these bullshit that time if you didn't liked them.. that time you happily accepted BTC payment offer and took 50% upfront and agreed to received 50% at the end. and now you came to public and started accusing me and calling me a scammer.

the fact is you are a scammer not me.. you agreed and took my Bitcoins and now trying to claim tokens also by making false accusation.

that time when you accepted BTC payment the token had no value. so you accepted BTC payment to release yourself from the possible risk if tokensale fail. but now as you see the tokensale became successful and token gained some value now you started making these none sense accusations.



Edit: why you are not showing the whole conversation? you are simply trying to mislead people with showing half conversation..

https://i.imgur.com/pc7NMFr.png


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: fadhilz123 on January 23, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
I want to say my opinion about jamalaezaz. This person should not to manage a company of bounty, he is greedy, unprofessional, shady and untrustworthy. Deceives and steals.

I agree with this, I join with fidentia. and already end about 1 or 2months ago. I give PM about bounty participant and he say all participant already receive their token but until now there are alot bounty participant not receive their token including me. I always Pm him about my payment but he igrone all my message.

I dont care anymore about another 5 bounty champaign i join managed by him. i get paid or not doesnt matter



Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: smith4cris on January 24, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
I think this is not news that Jamalaezaz is stealing money from bounty campaigns he manages, he has recieved red trust from DT users also about his scam activity.
I will tell you my experience and i hope other people will join in exposing this worthless thief.

First of all the only way you can take a translation in his campaigns is by accepting a very small ammount in BTC so he can keep your bounty tokens for the translation. He also told me that he will find another translator if i dont accept. Basically he doesent care about experience or the project to be done well...he just cares about scamming you and the company about the bounty tokens!

I accepted a few jobs because i needed the money and he agreed to pay half and half....
He also has cheap tactics...like forgeting he didnt pay ..and basically make you beg for your money.

I also suspect him having accomplices like shooterxd, Bitfinesse, SK_Aezaz in helping him with the scams he does.
He also steals the tokens from twitter and facebook campaign by having tons of fake accounts joined in the campaigns that him and his friends own.

There is too much to say about how this human garbage has stolen his way into being a ''crypto milionaire''.

I cant wait to see the comunity reaction because, apparently, he thinks that nobody knows what he is doing.



Hi,

I'm a newbie and hope to join bounties in the future. Just on an objective view point, did you agree on his terms and joined the bounty he manages voluntarily? Did you received the payment he said he paid you upfront? I mean there are risks in joining bounties as well, not all are successful and some are willing to accept payment upfront reading on the links he posted. At this point in time you have the option to not join any bounty he manages. If your answer for my 1st two question is yes, at some point you have to realize that you said yes. If he has a balance, he has to pay. As a principle I normally don't start to do something even if its profitable on my side if another party has to suffer or is not amenable to my terms but if he/she say yes I believe we have an agreement. I think that is the only point your bounty manager is making. I'm not eligible yet to join bounty, but I'll try joining Bounties he manage given the opportunity so I can vouch your claim if its true or not. I'm not a Pakistani but I hope you don't judge all the  Pakistani's just because you hate one Pakistani. Peace to all. Good luck to us and hope to be a member soon.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Tszunami98 on January 24, 2018, 06:46:59 AM
I am not understanding in which point I have scammed you or someone else..?
I offered you to pay you in BTC for your translators and I clearly told you that if you accept BTC you'll not receive any tokens but I'll take your tokens because I am paying BTC by myself not owners..
I did the same with few other translators and blog writers.. and if someone liked that he accepted that and if someone didn't liked that he didn't accepted that. it is that simple

now what is scam in all this?

why you didn't argued on this when we were discussing BTC payment? you could have said all these bullshit that time if you didn't liked them.. that time you happily accepted BTC payment offer and took 50% upfront and agreed to received 50% at the end. and now you came to public and started accusing me and calling me a scammer.

the fact is you are a scammer not me.. you agreed and took my Bitcoins and now trying to claim tokens also by making false accusation.

that time when you accepted BTC payment the token had no value. so you accepted BTC payment to release yourself from the possible risk if tokensale fail. but now as you see the tokensale became successful and token gained some value now you started making these none sense accusations.



Edit: why you are not showing the whole conversation? you are simply trying to mislead people with showing half conversation..

https://i.imgur.com/pc7NMFr.png

For the milionts time... the scam is that you are abusing your position and you are selecting translators only if they accept your payment in btc.
I came to the conclusion that you really are too dumb to understand that what you are doing is not only unethical but also illegal ( at least in the civilized part of the world where i live ).

Really.... ''the token had no value''? You do know that the tokens have a price during the crowdsale...

Wow, that was the big rest of the conversation ... where you stupidly try to explain how your translators ''are best'' and that you are some kind of saviour by buying the tokens? actually giving only one option....accept the deal or get lost.

The only place where you think the devs are happy that you run around with their money and try to make profit for yourself is only in your brain... i think you will have a surprise when you find out that things are different in reality than in your imagination.

The saddest thing in this is that this comunity here in btctalk is a village without dogs and you will just continue doing your shady business and nobody will care.

And btw... how can you say that you are risking when you are offering 5% of the initial bounty...i personally never saw a token lose that much in his value. Actually all the tokens run pretty good after they launch...at worst losing half of ICO value.
And all the tokens from those hundreds of people complaining that they haven't recieved for twitter and bounty campaigns...i wonder where they went. I actually don't wonder... you kept them.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Lauda on January 24, 2018, 06:52:54 AM
Hi,

I'm a newbie and hope to join bounties in the future. Just on an objective view point, did you agree on his terms and joined the bounty he manages voluntarily?
...something.... agreement... something
Don't post bullshit. This has nothing to do with voluntary agreements. This is next to blackmail. Your options are: a) Accept what they are offering; b) They will reject you as a translator and take someone else. Clear, and disgusting abuse of the position for their own greed.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: smith4cris on January 25, 2018, 02:31:31 AM
Hi,

I'm a newbie and hope to join bounties in the future. Just on an objective view point, did you agree on his terms and joined the bounty he manages voluntarily?
...something.... agreement... something
Don't post bullshit. This has nothing to do with voluntary agreements. This is next to blackmail. Your options are: a) Accept what they are offering; b) They will reject you as a translator and take someone else. Clear, and disgusting abuse of the position for their own greed.

Hi Sir,

That is my point, doing something should be with your consent or it means you are agreeable to the one who is giving you work. You might have to report the manager to the companies directly since his practice may not be ethical or as you've said it is a blackmail. Knowing from the beginning that the one who manages the campaign is using his authority to his personal interest you always have the option to reject and look for a better project. I have experienced resigning from work because my personal moral standard is not align with my superior's moral standard. I  agree with you that its disgusting to abuse ones position for personal gains and I hope that you are of good moral value and is not discriminating to other people as well. Accepting an advance payment and then complaining in the end is also not favorable for the complainants side. On a third persons view point; it is somehow greedy as well. On my personal stance; I would rather not work for that project if I feel abused and not properly compensated. I will look for other projects since I believe that there are other projects out there. Oppressing people or discriminating people and bullying the weak is disgusting as well. I am not against anyone  or anything I just want to express my opinion on this and I hope that you can respect this post as It is not a Bullshit as you say. Peace be with you.

On my side note. Power tripping is a reality as well as corruption. Corrupt practices are everywhere and the person who is power tripping might not be aware that he is using his level, position, rank or authority to oppress and discriminate other people. Bitcoin's acceptance is due to this. We are looking for decentralization of authority, transparency and equality. Bitcoin has given many opportunity for people to earn beyond what we can compared to just relying on our regular jobs. Again, peace be with you and Good luck to us!


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: jamalaezaz on January 25, 2018, 07:08:50 AM
Accepting an advance payment and then complaining in the end is also not favorable for the complainants side. On a third persons view point; it is somehow greedy as well.

Exactly.. OP is himself a greedy scammer. first he agreed and took 0.025 BTC upfront and promised to not ask any payment in tokens. and now at the end suddenly he started calling me a scammer.  the fact is OP is the real blackmailer and scammer here.. he have threaten me to never let me work in any other projects...

the point is if he felt my offer is not valid and a scam he should deny working that time and insist for token payment or do whatever he's doing now.... his all accusations are baseless ..


I have the same opportunity to many other translators and bloggers. I offered them BTC payment for their work and kept their bounty tokens.. some of them agreed. some of them denied and prefer having tokens.. I do not see anything wrong or scam in this....

I am buying those user's stakes as well who are not part of my bounties:

Here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2695084
and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2644741


no one is being forced or pressurized to accept my offer if it is not suitable for them.
so stop making felse accusations.


Title: Re: Please stop Jamalaezaz scamming activity on the forum!!!
Post by: Tszunami98 on January 28, 2018, 04:53:40 PM
At the end of the day...you still have my money and/or my tokens.

The sad thing is that there are a lot of people who agree that you are a scum but now are too afraid to talk because there is no reaction from the DT members of this forum. And who can blame them giving this fact.

A lot of good actors and influencers say that bitcointalk is cancer, but i never thought that....until now!