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Bitcoin => Hardware => Topic started by: schua on August 26, 2013, 11:04:44 PM



Title: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: schua on August 26, 2013, 11:04:44 PM
Our BTC project is named as TMR (http://www.tmr-asic.com/index_en.html), which comes from "The Miner". This project was started from the beginning of this year, and targeted on high efficiency Btcoin computation ASIC for, and distribution scheme of future computation power systems.
We had already completed the first-generation ASIC for Btcoin miner, which is based on one traditional and cheap 153nm CMOS process, with normal computation ability of 144MH/s, as some optimization had been done on RTL code. Actually, this first ASIC is used for verification and design experience for Btcoin computation ASIC, and the result is quite good, as listed below. These results will make good basis for coming next-generation full-speed Btcoin ASIC, and reduce the risk of high-cost and new CMOS process which will be used.
Since we make the first-generation ASIC based on low-cost CMOS process, so this price of these exited ASIC is still competitive enough to be build up as these miner machines.

Review of Our progress in this year:
A. We completed preparation works at February, and started the ASIC design at March.
B. The front-end and back-end of ASIC design were completed before 26th, Apr.
C. The fabrication process was started in the foundry at 9th, May.
D. The first package of testing ASIC was delivered at 28th, Jun.
E. The functions of first ASIC have been tested completely, and a lot size of miner machines are in production period at 1st Aug.
F. We start to sell 2.2GH/s miners on TAOBAO.com at 16th, Aug.  Now the customers have given a lot of positive feedbacks. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.47.HFf7Uk&id=21969451511&initiative_new=1&initiative_new=1

Test results of this ASIC is as below:
A. The single ASIC works well, and running speed is 144MH/s.
B. The stage connection function of several miners works well.
C. The system software and hardware works well, and keeping in stable operation mode until now.

On-sale miners based on previous ASIC
A. Component: Each miner has sixteen pieces of TMR ASIC, with one board, one 9V supply, and one piece of USB connection.
B. Speed: theoretical speed as 2.3GH/s,and actual running speed is around 2.2GH/s (According to miner pool results)
C. Power consumption: around 26W
D. Interface: One USB port is used to connect with computer
E: Software: Special modified Cgminer software is provided.
F. Attachment: The router is provide to connect with TMR miner, so TMR miner can be mining without computer support.
G: Others: multi-miner operation mode is supported, then several TMR miners can be stage-connected to be one powerful miner with only one USB port.

Our merits:
A. Our ASIC design targets on final system cost, so PCB boards are only requested to provide power supply, clock and one usb2uart interface. Based on these, multi ASIC modules can work together without any other peripheral circuits.
B. The stage-connection technology of several miners can been verified based on our existed platform.
C. The potential experience on high computation power distribution.
D. All team members are senior technicians and management with over ten years experience, and working together for almost ten years for one team, and several successful consumer electronics chips with KK level sales monthly.
E. Good relationship with financial market, as senior consultant from famous investment companies, banks and other fund companies.

We are working on:
A. We will distribute computation power system widely, and preparation work of miner sales.
B. Optimization work for previous RTL design, and 40% area had been reduced for coming Full Mask production of the second-generation ASIC.
C. More funding are organized to complete the Full Mask production of coming second-generation ASIC.

Future objectives:
A. To provide high efficiency miner hardware project.
B. To provide completely distribution scheme of miner computation power system.

http://www.tmr-asic.com/photo/org/work.jpg


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: jelin1984 on August 26, 2013, 11:18:19 PM
Price for 2.2 gh miner?


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 26, 2013, 11:23:48 PM
"Only available in China."

...

So you came here to tease us with a product that we can't buy?

Or, were you just trying to show off?  :P

Or... ???


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: dogie on August 26, 2013, 11:27:17 PM
Thread claiming stuff we can never verify, in order to launch another thread with a preorder.


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: Gomeler on August 26, 2013, 11:51:33 PM
Price for 2.2 gh miner?

I believe 1499 RMB or ~250 USD. About equal to what ASICMINER is charging for their devices with similar power consumption numbers. A little late to the market but interesting nonetheless.


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: bitterdog on August 26, 2013, 11:56:36 PM
2.2gh/s might be worth it @ $130


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: bobsag3 on August 27, 2013, 12:41:27 AM
2.2gh/s might be worth it @ $130
100+ @99 and you have a steal


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: schua on August 27, 2013, 01:05:21 AM

"Only available in China."

...

So you came here to tease us with a product that we can't buy?

Or, were you just trying to show off?  :P

Or... ???

Sorry, please let me explain it.

In fact, we hope to sell to international customers.
However, the TMR 2.2GH/s miner's weight is about 1.1KG (2.4Pounds).
So the international logistic fees will be very expensive.

But if there's anyone outside China want to buy the miner , and don't mind the expensive international express fee,
you can send us the email or message.
We'll figure out how to send the miner to you.

http://www.tmr-asic.com/photo/org/endproduct.jpg


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: ElitePork on August 27, 2013, 01:27:11 AM
Which part of china you are located? can arrange pick up?


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: schua on August 27, 2013, 01:29:04 AM


Thread claiming stuff we can never verify, in order to launch another thread with a preorder.


That's a very smart guess.

But I can guarantee you that we will NEVER do a preorder.

We only sell goods in stock. That's how we did in CHINA. And we will continue to do that in the future.

All our first-generation product has been tested before we sold to China users.

Right now 66 miners have been sold to about 40 different chinese customers on Taobao.com, and some customers also buy it for the second time.

Taobao.com is chinese Ebay.  We can only receive the money if customer receive the good and feel satisfied.

In fact, about ONE month ago, we post the Chinese version of this introduction on bitcoin talk at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268174.0  

And we think it is appropriate to post this English intro version until we have some real customers.

So now here it is.


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: wynack on August 27, 2013, 01:36:25 AM


Thread claiming stuff we can never verify, in order to launch another thread with a preorder.


That's a very smart guess.

But I can guarantee you that we will NEVER do a preorder.

We only sell goods in stock. That's how we did in CHINA. And we will continue to do that in the future.

All our first-generation product has been tested before we sold to China users.

Right now 66 miners have been sold to about 40 different chinese customers on Taobao.com, and some customers also buy it for the second time.

Taobao.com is chinese Ebay.  We can only receive the money if customer receive the good and feel satisfied.

In fact, about ONE month ago, we post the Chinese version of this introduction on bitcoin talk at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268174.0  

And we think it is appropriate to post this English intro version until we have some real customers.

So now here it is.

Hi,

I have sent an email ..


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: schua on August 27, 2013, 01:46:56 AM
Which part of china you are located? can arrange pick up?

We are in Shanghai.
You can pick up the TMR miner from our office if you are in Shanghai.


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: felente on August 27, 2013, 02:09:04 AM
you guys will make a revolution in asic business if you offer no preorders O_O
very appreciated.

bad, that i do not plan to buy any miners for now.

i would suggest to settle an international delivery issue - you will not regret it i guess ;)


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: Operatr on August 27, 2013, 05:25:37 AM
244.83 for 144 Gh/s ? Where do I sign?  :o


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: Bicknellski on August 27, 2013, 05:29:26 AM
Got a suitcase... short flight to China sorta... hmmm.


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 27, 2013, 05:37:00 AM
Thanks for the explanation.

I never would of thought any Bitcoin ASIC would have been unprofitable at this point to ship it across the world. Difficulty has gone up so fast, I'm scared. Someone hold me and tell me it's going to be alright.  :D

Congratulations on your build, I wish you were based in the USA and I'd buy some.


Title: Re: TMR ASIC project introduction
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 27, 2013, 05:37:50 AM
Got a suitcase... short flight to China sorta... hmmm.

 omw  ;D