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Title: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 28, 2018, 11:10:30 PM
This is my second artwork I'm putting up for auction. You can read about my motivation in the completed auction thread of my first artwork "eidetic dawn" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353633)

Feel free to comment in this thread!


"Skin in the Game" 2018

https://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018eks3c.jpg

https://abload.de/thumb/skin_in_the_game_2018eks3c.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=skin_in_the_game_2018eks3c.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/skin_in_the_game_2018vlsmn.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=skin_in_the_game_2018vlsmn.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/skin_in_the_game_20182ds3h.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=skin_in_the_game_20182ds3h.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg)

Direct links to images:
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018eks3c.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018vlsmn.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_20182ds3h.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg

Oven-dried mandarin peel, gold paper fragments on fruit packaging cardboard segments; recycled scorched woodframe with glass, used crate planks. 29 x 29 cm.


https://pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1518393599.png

Auction Rules
Starting bid: 0.001 BTC
Bid increments: 0.001 BTC

End time: Sunday, 11th of February 2018, 11:59:59 PM forum time; auction remains open for 15 minutes after the last bid even if this results in an extension of the end time.

Shipping
International shipping cost:
0.0025 BTC without tracking;
cost for tracked and insured shipment varies by country, please ask in advance.

General Shipment Conditions:
Members from Europe, North America, Australia, NZ:
   - Hero members or above with no negative trust and no red flags: I ship first.
   - Others: prepayment or escrow (fees paid by the buyer).
Members from South America, Africa and Asia:
   - Prepayment required. (Because of higher postal risk and mostly lack of tracked shipping options.)

- Exceptions from these conditions for certain countries may apply. Please ask in advance. -


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 30, 2018, 10:45:57 PM
Twelve days to go.

I'm happy to hear your comments, even if you don't like the artwork at all... :)


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: ChiBitCTy on January 30, 2018, 11:12:12 PM
The art isnít for me but I love the frame!


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: digicoinuser on January 31, 2018, 01:10:44 AM
I can't see the photos for some reason, can you provide text links to them in the OP also?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: TMAN on January 31, 2018, 05:40:52 AM
No offence to you but this is a horse shit attempt at making BTC.  Even my kids could make something better than this, actually anyone out of pre school could chuck some peeled fruit and gold paper in a frame

I am commenting as an art buyer here and not as an awkward poster, fella please get someone to check your "art" before you post here- this post is wasting valuable internet space


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 31, 2018, 12:53:06 PM
The art isnít for me but I love the frame!

Thanks for your comment.

The frame is actually part of the artwork. I intentionally burned it with a Bunsen burner (put on protective paint afterwards).

I can't see the photos for some reason, can you provide text links to them in the OP also?

http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018eks3c.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018vlsmn.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_20182ds3h.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg

Added also to Op.

No offence to you but this is a horse shit attempt at making BTC.  Even my kids could make something better than this, actually anyone out of pre school could chuck some peeled fruit and gold paper in a frame

I am commenting as an art buyer here and not as an awkward poster, fella please get someone to check your "art" before you post here- this post is wasting valuable internet space

Love your comment. Great emotions! Keep it coming. +1 Merit for you.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: krogothmanhattan on January 31, 2018, 01:10:42 PM
The art isnít for me but I love the frame!

Thanks for your comment.

The frame is actually part of the artwork. I intentionally burned it with a Bunsen burner (put on protective paint afterwards).

I can't see the photos for some reason, can you provide text links to them in the OP also?

http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018eks3c.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018vlsmn.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_20182ds3h.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg

Added also to Op.

No offence to you but this is a horse shit attempt at making BTC.  Even my kids could make something better than this, actually anyone out of pre school could chuck some peeled fruit and gold paper in a frame

I am commenting as an art buyer here and not as an awkward poster, fella please get someone to check your "art" before you post here- this post is wasting valuable internet space

Love your comment. Great emotions! Keep it coming. +1 Merit for you.

You could have thrown some apple peels and potatoes in there too! Make it a nice veg fruit skin art mix worthy of the louvre  :o


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 31, 2018, 06:12:28 PM
You could have thrown some apple peels and potatoes in there too! Make it a nice veg fruit skin art mix worthy of the louvre  :o

Yes that's definitely worth considering... for this work I chose mandarin peels because of the color and the surface that more closely resembles animal/human skin. :)


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: dolphriends on January 31, 2018, 06:17:22 PM
I really don't care for it.  I am not sure what the game is. 


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 31, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
I really don't care for it.  I am not sure what the game is. 

Having "skin in the game" is an idiom used by parts of the financial community.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: TMAN on January 31, 2018, 06:27:14 PM
I really don't care for it.  I am not sure what the game is. 

Having "skin in the game" is an idiom used by parts of the financial community.

I might go get my feet done, save the skank foot skin shavings, glue them to a satori chip and try and sell it. If I did that it would still sell for more than this piece


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 31, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
I really don't care for it.  I am not sure what the game is.  

Having "skin in the game" is an idiom used by parts of the financial community.

I might go get my feet done, save the skank foot skin shavings, glue them to a satori chip and try and sell it. If I did that it would still sell for more than this piece

Then go ahead and do it.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: dolphriends on January 31, 2018, 06:43:02 PM
Good luck with your sale :)


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: TMAN on January 31, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
I really don't care for it.  I am not sure what the game is.  

Having "skin in the game" is an idiom used by parts of the financial community.

I might go get my feet done, save the skank foot skin shavings, glue them to a satori chip and try and sell it. If I did that it would still sell for more than this piece

Then go ahead and do it.

I wouldn't do it as it is an insult to the collectors here... but again it is better than this piece as I have said..


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 31, 2018, 06:48:24 PM
Good luck with your sale :)

Thank you. Actually it is not really important for me if it sells or for what amount - as I have stated in my previous auction thread, the act of creating an artwork alone is enjoyable for me. And if it is able to evoke whatever kind of emotions when shared it's even better. :)


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on January 31, 2018, 06:53:18 PM
I really don't care for it.  I am not sure what the game is.  

Having "skin in the game" is an idiom used by parts of the financial community.

I might go get my feet done, save the skank foot skin shavings, glue them to a satori chip and try and sell it. If I did that it would still sell for more than this piece

Then go ahead and do it.

I wouldn't do it as it is an insult to the collectors here... but again it is better than this piece as I have said..

I think it's a great accomplishment of my artwork that you feel that the collectors here are insulted by offering it. :)

Edit: Updated the thread title to reflect this.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: digicoinuser on January 31, 2018, 07:56:04 PM
I can't see the photos for some reason, can you provide text links to them in the OP also?

http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018eks3c.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_2018vlsmn.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_20182ds3h.jpg
http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg

Added also to Op.

Thanks for the images, definitely an interesting piece that seems different from what you've normally done. 


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends 11th of February
Post by: Xprim777 on February 01, 2018, 02:24:36 AM
I like the name but this artwork is near my understanding limit of art....I tried to focus but all I see is this

https://i.imgur.com/wsxmEAj.jpg?1

Good luck with your auction  ;)


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends 11th of February
Post by: BG4 on February 01, 2018, 05:03:20 AM
Frankly.....  This side looks the best.. In MY OPINION.. merit


http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends 11th of February
Post by: ChiBitCTy on February 01, 2018, 05:13:46 AM
Frankly.....  This side looks the best.. In MY OPINION.. merit


http://abload.de/img/skin_in_the_game_201898sec.jpg


Because of the x-men crest?? Me too


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ends Sunday, 11th of February
Post by: flora_digitalis on February 02, 2018, 01:55:38 PM
Thanks for the images, definitely an interesting piece that seems different from what you've normally done.

Thank you! I'm well aware that this doesn't fit the expectations of the majority of the collector folk here. But I head a great time creating it - so there's no reason not to share it.

I like the name but this artwork is near my understanding limit of art....I tried to focus but all I see is this

- img -

Good luck with your auction  ;)

Hehe, so you're definitely not into abstract art... :)


Frankly.....  This side looks the best.. In MY OPINION.. merit

- img -

Because of the x-men crest?? Me too

Nice that you like the backside as well. But this is not a merit begging thread... :D


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - 4 hours left!
Post by: flora_digitalis on February 11, 2018, 07:24:41 PM
4 hours left.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - 4 hours left!
Post by: TMAN on February 11, 2018, 07:50:22 PM
4 hours left.

keep on trying son.. but It looks like I was right and you are wrong..

the market is saturated with shit right now.. far too many people are pumping out pieces.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - 4 hours left!
Post by: Hhampuz on February 11, 2018, 09:38:16 PM
I'll go ahead and bid 0.001BTC but rather than you sending me this piece I'd like it if you could donate it to any of your local establishments, and update the thread once done with a picture of it hanging at a wall or so. The establishment is up to you, I won't mind if it is a slaughter house or a fancy restaurant.. Perhaps a gallery or something else?

If you accept, I'll honor my bid.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: flora_digitalis on February 12, 2018, 11:42:16 AM
4 hours left.

keep on trying son.. but It looks like I was right and you are wrong..

the market is saturated with shit right now.. far too many people are pumping out pieces.

I don't recall we exchanged any argument about "right" and "wrong" in relation to the artwork or my intention of offering it here. But I'm glad you feel like you are "right", if this feeling is important to you.


I'll go ahead and bid 0.001BTC but rather than you sending me this piece I'd like it if you could donate it to any of your local establishments, and update the thread once done with a picture of it hanging at a wall or so. The establishment is up to you, I won't mind if it is a slaughter house or a fancy restaurant.. Perhaps a gallery or something else?

If you accept, I'll honor my bid.

Thank you for your good intentions, but I can not accept this conditional bid. The whole point in selling my artwork is (1) showcasing my work and (2) maybe finding someone who appreciates it and is willing to pay to own it for him/herself because of that. If there is nobody in this forum who does, then the artwork won't be sold. That's no problem.

(Besides I already had a request for the artwork from one of my friends. So I will either keep it for myself or gift it to my friend.)


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: elianite on February 19, 2018, 04:29:03 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This is not the craziest art I've seen by any stretch.

What you need to do, is think of some deep meaning to accompany each element of the piece. \
For some reason you chose mandarin peels; perhaps they artistically symbolize the language 'Mandarin', which itself is a reference to China, and its growing dominance in the crypto-sphere. Perhaps, one of the peels could have been in the shape of china for added meta-meaning. Perhaps the gold foil symbolizes hope for the wealth that the investor is seeking in putting their 'skin in the game', while the cardboard symbolizes the fear of any particular investment becoming worthless. Perhaps the peels also signify that by placing their skin in the crypto 'game', they can never truly withdraw, just as one cannot un-peel an orange.
Perhaps, the investor 'shedding their skin', is a metaphor for transformation in the same way some animals must leave behind their old skin to grow a new one, as the world may be in the process of 'shedding the skin' of the legacy financial system.. only to discover a tasty, ripe fruit underneath..
Clearly, the back of the frame represents the X-men logo, signifying the 'mutant' nature of bitcoin, which is 'hidden' from view.. ;)

I could go on an on..
Best of luck.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: flora_digitalis on February 21, 2018, 02:27:35 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This is not the craziest art I've seen by any stretch.

What you need to do, is think of some deep meaning to accompany each element of the piece. \
For some reason you chose mandarin peels; perhaps they artistically symbolize the language 'Mandarin', which itself is a reference to China, and its growing dominance in the crypto-sphere. Perhaps, one of the peels could have been in the shape of china for added meta-meaning. Perhaps the gold foil symbolizes hope for the wealth that the investor is seeking in putting their 'skin in the game', while the cardboard symbolizes the fear of any particular investment becoming worthless. Perhaps the peels also signify that by placing their skin in the crypto 'game', they can never truly withdraw, just as one cannot un-peel an orange.
Perhaps, the investor 'shedding their skin', is a metaphor for transformation in the same way some animals must leave behind their old skin to grow a new one, as the world may be in the process of 'shedding the skin' of the legacy financial system.. only to discover a tasty, ripe fruit underneath..
Clearly, the back of the frame represents the X-men logo, signifying the 'mutant' nature of bitcoin, which is 'hidden' from view.. ;)

I could go on an on..
Best of luck.

Thank you for your comment & suggestions. However it seems that people here assume that everything posted in the collectables section has to do something with Bitcoin. But that's not necessarily the case.

My understanding of interesting art is presumably a bit different than what most people here seem to prefer. You can rest assured that the artwork and its title have been intentionally created the way they are (finding and preparing the right components took quite a bit of time). But I strongly refuse to give a fixed guidance on its meaning, because in my view that ruins the whole purpose of my work. My artwork should stimulate emotions, generate thought processes and new insights. So what I want is active mental engagement by the observer. Meaning has to be created by the observer and there are certainly a load of different possible interpretations. None of these are fundamentally wrong or right.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: dazedfool on May 05, 2018, 08:40:09 PM
Is this still available for purchase?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: flora_digitalis on May 05, 2018, 08:43:12 PM
Is this still available for purchase?

No.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: dazedfool on May 06, 2018, 02:51:47 AM
Is this still available for purchase?

No.

Might you consider a similar piece via commission? PM me


Title: Re: [AUCTION] Controversial Artwork "Skin in the Game" - Ended without valid bid.
Post by: flora_digitalis on May 06, 2018, 12:23:56 PM
Is this still available for purchase?

No.

Might you consider a similar piece via commission? PM me

No.

Commissioned work is against my understanding of art. The same is true for replications of prior artworks which I consider neither creative nor enjoyable to work on.